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Talk Zone / Re: Reid Ryan phasing out
« on: November 07, 2019, 03:35:59 pm »
I was about to bitch about nepotism and then I remembered that this is protesting Reid Ryan leaving, so...
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When he was missing his spots that inning, he had a very dejected attitude after each pitch. He’s fighting himself for the first time in a long time.
Freaking Simmons. That guy can really play.He's a wizard.
Now it just feels like there is a money play going on. It's not our son's fault. It's the Angels fault. So they should pay. Waiting to see how this plays out.
I think that I vaguely remember seeing that one. Who was the best pure hitter you've ever seen? I'm too young to have seen Teddy Ballgame, and by the time I got interested in baseball, Mickey Mantle was trying to hit with one knee. For me, Barry Bonds was the best overall hitter.
It's been a long time since I've seen a team this talented and this well-run generally continue to try something that has been proven to fail so consistently. Sending Framber out there every five days is something like the Cleveland Browns or some other organization wedded to failure would do.That and the Tyler White Experience.
Doesn't work when it's obviously insincere.
The opposing pitcher has yielded 3 hits.
Don't troll anti-AJ shit.
I must have missed the memo stating the game is over after 4 innings.
AJ had the bullpen magic touch last postseason. This season, either he hasn’t or the shit pitching has been so widespread it’s impossible to avoid.
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He's trying to show confidence in him, but Rondon really needs about a week off to rest. He's just worn out.
Sipp coming in to try and clean up Colin’s mess.Hinch does not do his relievers any favors.
Need double play.Good call!
Ok, this bunting shit has got to stop.
I feel like I want to blame this guy... but I am pretty sure they would have fucked it up without his help.
Marwin breaks out his patented unsuccessful bunt for a hit strategy.The fucking cleanup hitter is doing this.
This would be a helluva time for Tucker’s first homer.
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This reply probably belongs in "Beer and Queso" instead of here, but since domestic violence is now a topic for baseball related activity, it's probably okay.
Violence Against Women in Mexico
I am an American of Mexican decent. I grew up in second ward, a predominantly Mexican-American community. All the great things of being of Mexican decent were certainly celebrated in my community growing up. The blind-eye in our community was exactly the serious amount of domestic violence women suffered from Men still prone to cultural morays learned in Mexico (Machismo). Women wanting to learn to drive, to have a voice, to opine... they were the most victimized. I know because my aunt was a victim for many years at the hand of an uncle I hated and never wanted to be around, even though I was forced to at a family get together. How could I be around a man who beat his wife severely as he did. How come this was covered up or things said like "well, she asked for it" (by her attitude, her independence, her ability to drive herself to go shopping, you name it, they were pointed out as reasons she was "asking for it"). My uncle was macho... very macho. Ask my cousin, who also learned to fear his Dad from the fist to the face and slamming against a wall so hard, he left dents on the wall. My cousin was only 10 years old when he started to get violently abused. I was sickened, even as a young boy, at knowing about all this because I grew up in a loving home with a Dad who wasn't violent, but at the same time knew how to use a booming voice to let everyone know to walk on egg-shells for a while... Dad's not happy. But my Dad was a kind man, very giving and he never raised a fist to anyone, not children, not my Mom, not anyone. My uncle, however, was a different matter altogether. I remember the day one of my sisters ran out of our house to said uncle's house to tell him I was yelling mean things at her (I was). He rushed to our house because my mom and dad were out and only the kids were in the house. My uncle slammed the door open and found me in the den area. He approached me with his fist clenched. I knew I was in for the same type of beating my cousin suffered. I was going to get punched in the face... punched hard. He yelled at me "So you think you're a tough guy, huh? How about picking on someone like me instead of your younger sister!" But right then my oldest sister stood between him and me, I was not standing up to him, I was covering my face trying to shield myself from the hard punches to come. My sister told my uncle to leave our house... emphatically. I was really scared now because my uncle had no qualms beating on women either. But for some reason, it worked... he laughed, turned around and left our house. She asked me if I was alright and through my tears I told her I was fine... but inside I was a nervous wreck. My youngest sister came and hugged me and told me she was sorry she went to his house... she wasn't thinking straight and she regretted he even responded.
I hated this man.
Cultural-Specific Gender Ideology and Wife Abuse in Mexican-Descent Families
As much as you might not like hearing this, but culture plays a huge role for Men from Mexican decent when it comes to domestic abuse. I have not been surprised when I hear older Mexican men consul younger men about how to "control your wife". Much of that consultation centers around "golpear la mujer". Translated, "hit her so she can learn never to do that again", whatever the "that" may be that insulted the machismo of the Man of the house. It becomes ingrained into most Mexican young men and they then pass it on to other young men they may have an influence on. Have I heard it as recently as this year, for instance? Yes, I have. I played in the volleyball tournament with some really great young men who played outstanding volleyball. Two of them were American males of Mexican decent (first generation). They told me, for whatever reason, of how an uncle or grandfather told them to always remember to "golpear la mujer" when they needed it. I told them if I ever heard of them doing such a thing, I'd be the first to beating the living shit out of them and then also turn them into the police. They understood, but they also said it was hard to tell those men who gave them said advice that they were full of shit. They had to respect their elders (culturally), even if it was wrong and not something they even remotely wanted to do. My cousin, who suffered abusive violence for all his young life into his teens... when he got married and raised his own family, little did I know (at the time) he would be an abuser himself. I witnessed it when one day I was visiting with him and we were both in the couch watching a game. His young son passed in front of us blocking our view of the game (Rockets game). My cousin raised his leg and caught his son with his foot right in the chest and flung him clearly across the room. He yelled at him "Stop running around in here, we're busy watching the game!". His son was hurt, both physically and emotionally from the trauma my cousin just inflicted. I was mad and told my cousin to step outside with me for a minute. He didn't think I was serious so he said ok, just to find out what was bothering me. I grabbed him by the neck and said "If I ever see you touch that boy like that again, I will not hesitate to hurt you... hurt you badly too". He smiled and told me to relax, it was okay. I was not okay, but as the years went on, my cousin... by the grace of God... got help and became a very loving father to his family. The oldest son... it took years to repair the damage my cousin inflicted but they did. The youngest boys were never aware of "that" Dad, they love him and admire him for being so good to them. When I visited that family several years ago in Heyward, CA, they were all very proud of their old man, including the oldest son. I had a chance to sit with my cousin and just talk and while we never touched on the subject of violence and abuse, it was on the periphery of everything we said to each other. He told me he thanked God and family that he was able, with their support and love, to become a changed man. I knew it too, it was evident I was not talking to same man who at his young married life was not a good guy at all.
My uncle? I don't know if we've ever gotten on good terms like I did with his son, my cousin. I knew too much about his abusive and unrepentant self for many years. He now lives in Chicago, living out his retirement years with his other kids near him and my aunt. Yes, she stayed with him for over 50 years. My aunt and I got along really well. I loved her spirit of independence and how she influenced my sisters and other younger Mexican-American females in our small community to take charge of their lives and seek professional jobs and even go to college. My aunt was born and raised in California. She was a very different Mexican-American. She drove her own car, went to college, was a really great speaker at community rallys and such. But she married the wrong guy. A Mexican man who immigrated from Northern Mexico, very much the training ground for machismo. My uncle... what a piece of work he was. He is my mother's older brother. He fancied himself to James Dean or Sal Mineo and that sort of attracted my aunt to him. It did not take long after their marriage that he was more the Dr. Jeckyll - Mr Hyde type. Alot more Mr. Hyde though, a whole lot more. One incident I remember the most was the day my little cousin came running to our house from his (we all lived within blocks of each other) to tell us his Mom and Dad were fighting. My Dad jumped off his favorite chair and as bad timing would have it, so did I from the floor near his feet as he and I were watching a western on television. My Mom followed us out the door. I don't know why my Dad did not notice that I was right in stride with him, probably because he was too focused on what he might have to do since he knew what my uncle was capable of doing to my aunt with his heavy fist. When we arrived, we heard a cry from the laundry room and when we went into that room, we saw my aunt on the floor beneath the old style clothes washer... the kind that had a pair of rollers at the top of a very large spin cycle tub. She was bruised in the face from the violence my uncle inflicted on her. I was shocked and let out a cry. It was then my father realized I had come along to help him but he didn't want me involved. "Go home and don't tell anyone what you saw... do you hear me... no one!" "But Dad...." "No buts, let me handle it.... you should not have followed me... now go home!"
The next few days I never left the house to go do what I normally did... go to the park and play pickle with my baseball loving friends or ride my bike with them. I feared my favorite aunt had died that night. She didn't, but I didn't get to see her until many weeks later. When I did, I hugged her and said "I'm so glad to see you!". She was surprised and a little concerned I was hugging her so tightly. "Are you okay?" she asked me. "Ah... yes" and then I hugged her again. She didn't know I was there in the immediate aftermath of the beating my uncle gave her. I don't know to this day if she knew. She just smiled at me and said she was glad to see me too. But many years later while traveling to Chicago for some business, my aunt picked me up at the airport. My Mom called her and told her I would be in Chicago for a week and perhaps I would like to stay with her and my uncle while there. I didn't know about these plans, but was so happy to see her at the airport waiting as I walked towards the baggage claim. "You're staying with us mijo. I have a guest room for you." I resisted at first but then thought it might be nice to get home cooking for a week. It late that night while drinking coffee with my aunt that my uncle walked into the kitchen. I had not seen him all night as he was visiting with some friends in town as well. When he walked in, he gave a shout "NOAH!" (it's what he always called me). I raised my hand to shake his and he slapped it away and said "Come on!" while hugging me. My arms were down while he hugged me and it was apparent I did not want to return the affection. My aunt noticed.
"He's a different man. He's changed alot." This is what my aunt could not wait to tell me after my uncle said he was going to bed and we were welcome to keep talking and drinking coffee all we wanted. I didn't answer my aunt, I just listened. I found it hard to excuse my uncle for all those years of his behavior. Nothing could change my mind, or so I thought. Now many years later and my uncle nearing his last days here on earth, I still don't know how I feel about him. My aunt is a saint for loving him through all of this abuse. I could not. I could not understand how my Dad tried to make my uncle understand that this behavior was wrong and he needed to change. I sometimes fantasized about the day I would be big enough and strong enough to just find my uncle one day and give him a severe beating that I thought was justified. That feeling went away soon enough but I still have a hard time seeing my uncle in anything other that abusive man that I grew up with. That's on me to work out for myself, even to eventually say in an audible way "I forgive you" to the memory of that man. I'm getting closer to it each day. But it's not easy.
Not even my aunt stroking my hair at my age and loving me like as if I was a little boy all over again worked magic to destroy the memory. But one day.
One day.
No doubt. I think it also matters that Osuna is Mexican. I'm not saying he compromised his integrity to deal for Osuna. Luhnow has worked very hard to turn the Mexican market toward Houston, and I think that played into the decision to deal for him.
Say something like what? That he’s been misused?
I’ve just been flummoxed by his use all year and feel like, if anybody has, he’s been set up to fail. My heart goes out to the dude. That he’s now aggressively digging his own hole doesn’t help but it doesn’t mean I run away from him either calling him an asshole. And I didn’t see him tell his manager to fuck off.
Except for the McCullers 2-1 meatball.Yes, that's a big exception.
Giles "getting work" again.The Astros actually have a great bullpen, people.
O BBGs, we humbly offer supplication and alms, and ask forgiveness for any hubris that has offended thee.+1
100 percent a strike, though. He should've mashed that junk.That's what I was thinking. Still, Giles got the save and the team showed some 2017 cajones with the comeback win.
guess that makes sense. we do that at UH games. just reminded me of Atlanta.
The starting pitchers need to meet with the rest of the team and give them what for. This is embarrassing for this team. I hope Hinch, the psychologist figures it out soon.
Why not send Giles back out?
Bullshit. Get out off here with that crap.
Good to see Orbit get his ring.
Good for the two Astros from PR. Fuck Trump.
New report says Cole is ours for Musgrove and Moran. If that is all Luhnow is a freakin’ genius!!
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Lunhow goes to my church and we had an organized outing before an Astros game at MMPUS with him right after July 31. Lots of people in a conference room with him talking on various topics for about 30 minutes.
At the end he took questions and said - please no questions about the Aug 31 deadline. We're not getting Verlander.
I realize he wouldn't have told us either way, but it sure seemed like he was resigned to not getting him.
Yes, that was a depressing time. A healthy J.R. would have made all the difference. He was unhittable until the stroke.
http://www.chron.com/sports/astros/article/Astros-manager-A-J-Hinch-backs-embattled-12310086.php
No more two-inning appearances. Inning Two Giles is shit.
Laddies and Gentlemen, I present to you the 2017 World Series. It is always going to be this nail biting. It is a glorious game.
Pederson celebrated the fuck out of that trip around the bases. I don't think I've ever seen a big leaguer dance that much.
Perhaps the worst comment I have seen on here was Hinch was “out of his depth.” Please. This team has now won 108 games. The best comment ever he made under the scrutiny of the malaise in New York: “This series was not over after two games and it is not over after five.” This team feeds off of his positive, confident approach, and we fans are lucky to have him.I cop to that. I was wrong about Hinch, like so many things. Glad to eat those words.
Why the fuck was Reddick shaking his head on the called strike? That was clearly a strike, right?
Hindsight being blah blah blah, but Verlander struggled with Benintendi in Houston Thursday. Weird situation to put him in.
I don't like it.
Another nugget. Keuchel aint the most popular guy in the org. From what I gathered, the chances of hm gettting signed when he becomes a FA are close to zero.
Sipp entering the game to "Sabotage" is a little too on the nose.
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In 2015, the Astros went 11-16 in September and went from 3 games up on the division to 2.5 games back at the close of business on the 30th.
In 2016, the Astros went 12-15 in September and missed out on a wildcard spot.
In 2017, the Astros are 7-5 in September so far, but the 5 losses have been horrific.
Any thoughts as to if the September performances are a monkey that the team just needs to get off their back by eventually winning a division (part of the maturing process when your core is still pretty young) or if this is more of an issue with Hinch's management style?
I kind of think that it's more of the former, but interested in the conversation.
A's get three runs without putting a ball in play.
Keuchel did the same fucking thing his last time out. He didn't get a call on Davis, he pouted, them crumbled.
And the Astros no longer have the best record on the league. So now maybe Kalas can stop fucking talking about it.
This loss falls 100% on Hinch's shoulders. What a shitshow management-wise.
He won't shut up about the World Series...who should the Astros start in Game 1...
I’m (probably) overreacting, but they look like they’re going through the motions. Which I was hoping Beltran, McCann, Reddick were supposed to help them avoid. 11-15 since the break isn’t a good look.
In addition, Boston has a $200MM payroll. Houston has a $124MM payroll and although Beltran and likely Gregerson will come off the books after this year healthy raises are due to Keuchel, Gattis, Springer, McHugh, Fiers, Marisnick, Giles, McCullers, and Peacock.
Luhnow will need to lean on his farm system a lot more than Boston to maintain a team as good as they have today, which is pretty fucking good considering they have a 7.5 game lead over Boston right now.
FWIW
@alysonfooter
"Basically everyone who has talked about the Astros on @MLBNetwork today thinks Verlander to Houston makes too much sense not to do it."
I keep reading and hearing "Why didn't Luhnow have a backup plan?"
I follow this stuff pretty closely, and had never ONCE heard a rumor connecting the Astros and Liriano.
So my question is: What makes y'all think that *wasn't* the backup plan? If you know that the Britton deal is going down to the wire, and you know Angelos often scuttles deals, don't you go ahead and execute your backup plan just in case?
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Correa's attempt wasn't a great calculated risk.
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Good god. I have never seen this many passed balls. And can an Astros catcher actually throw out a baserunner?
Is Bregman slow?
Random note I heard last night. Apparently Crane wasn't happy with the lack of trades like year, and expect the Luhnow to push hard for deals this trade deadline, Archer is the most likely.
If Beltran hits more than .220 with more than 10 HRs I'll be shocked.
This team is just mentally screwed up. The weird unbalanced lineup they had most of the year messed with their 'clutch' hitting stats... but they've been so damned undisciplined and 'unclutch' in so many other important areas. The more important the job, the less likely it gets done, even if the player involved has the talent to pull it off. Closer, anyone?
I'm not going to call out anyone by name, because that would not be fair. It's most likely a group dynamic and not the fault of an individual player or players. Any players who could be considered guilty of 'choking' might have had no issues in a different setting.
This is going to make Luhnow's already very difficult job this offseason even harder. Not only will he have to plan moves to make up for deficits in talent (i.e. starting pitching), he's going to have consider making moves based on chemistry. With no guarantee that he guesses right. And if those moves come in the form of trades, the other GM's are going to bend him over the table if they get the slightest hint of what he's trying to do...
They have the distinct advantage of playing 19 games against a team that wilts at the sight of their red and blue caps. I am not convinced that they are a better team than Cleveland, KC, or Boston, but maybe they are. We'll find out in due time.
Beltran and Lucroy a combined 5 for 9 with a double and 2 homeruns. There's your ballgame. AJ Reed quickly becoming the next man out when Valbuena or Gurriel is ready. 0 for 10 with a walk and 5 Ks. After raking for 436 in his 11 game AAA stint.
I agree with you, but I seem to recall that Scrap Iron got a quick hook, as did the Wrangler, so there is some precedent for it.Those managers were a lot more accomplished than AJ Fucking Hinch.
I hope they Conger the AL West.
Neshek has really been smacked around lately.I would like to volunteer another smack his way.
Gomez strikes out, showboats.
Mann was closeted gay, too, or at least bisexual. That was the speculation, anyway, and a story like Death In Venice could lead one to think so.
Not that it mattered. What a terrific, depressing story.
The best book I think I've ever read - period - is The Magic Mountain. Mann is in my all-time top five, definitely.
Anyone who says that "Strawberry Fields Forever" is a 'worst' anything needs to clean the shit out of their ears.
First time I heard something off of Murmur, probably "Radio Free Europe" in '82 or '83, it got my attention. At the time it sounded fresh and different. But it was pretty much downhill from there, especially once Mitch Easter and Don Dixon left.
And the worst part about that...Kashmir isn't on Led Zeppelin IV. They could have easily substituted When The Levee Breaks for Kashmir in the movie, and not only had the same effect, actually been accurate.
Yeah, so, this is where you should say your kidding and back away slowly. Feel free to talk shit about Roy, but you're not even close on Lance.
I'm concerned about the effect of another reckless spender on overall salaries.
Vin Scully, being the classy, classic Vin Scully:
“If I may speak for every member of the Dodger organization, our heartfelt and deepest sympathies to the mother and family of Nick Adenhart, and to every member in the Angels organization, for the untimely accident and death of young Nick last night at the tender age of twenty-two. Nick, from Maryland, had pitched six scoreless innings and was in a car with three friends, and a driver apparently went through a red light and T-boned the car, killing three of the four, including Nick, and one other member is in critical condition. And if there is one thing I’ve learned in all my years — and I haven’t learned much but the one thing I’ve learned: Don’t even waste your time trying to figure out life.
Ground ball through for Andre Ethier, and life continues for those who still have it. And with a leadoff single, Russell Martin will be coming up.
But I would say, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to take a moment and say a prayer in memory for Nick, especially for his parents. What a shock to lose a twenty-two-year-old.
Andre Ethier at first base, Russell Martin the batter, James Loney on deck, and the Dodgers try to strike in the second inning against Kevin Correia.”
Vin Scully, as transcribed from the Dodgers-Padres telecast the next day.
That really sucks. I saw him at an Old-Timer's Game in Arlington several years ago. There were a huge number of great stars - Ernie Banks, Joe DiMaggio, Frank Robinson, Bob Gibson, etc. - but apart from DiMaggio it was Mark Fidrych who got the biggest ovation. I wish I could accurately describe the sense of wonder and fun that he brought to the game but that Birdmania of 1976-77 was beautiful. He seemed to take the end of his career in stride too, not getting caught up in what he'd lost but focusing on what he'd had.
A very tragic loss.
"Michaels is a good player, an outstanding player," Abercrombie said. "You can't not go get him. He makes the team better. Hopefully, I can have a chance to come back up here and prove that I can do it."
Pretty classy demotion.
I gave the first volume of Shelby Foote's Civil War narrative as a gift this Christmas. If you haven't read it, you definitely should. Some of the passages will make you stop and reflect for a good long while.
The Yankees and Mets each had over 4 million in paid attendance last year. Each averaged over 50,000 per game. Averaged. Folks can whine, but the fans in NYC freely pay up to support their teams.
Ortiz finally remembered what month it is. Too bad Papelbon gave up the two-run double in the top of the inning... what's the largest deficit any team has come back from to win a postseason game?
Red Sox Nation/Fenway is mighty quiet right now, Rays 7-0 in the 7th. I can hear the champagne chilling in the visitors clubhouse.
Hell, why limit him to City Council. He does a fantastic Sheila Jackson Lee impersonation. If only he'd look for the cameras a bit more, it'd be 100% accurate.
What was Mickey Mantle's son doing in Waco?
Don't forget Sam Cassell.
It's certainly less gay.
Oddly enough, a friend of mine was at a MoMA exhibit/Sigur Ros show in honor of Icelandic National Day last night. Yoko came up to him, asked if she could have a sip of his lingonberry vodka cocktail, and before he could say anything took it right out of his hand and took a big swig. She handed it back to him, thanked him and explained that she was terribly thirsty.
I asked him if that encounter meant he and his fiancee would break up, but he laughed explaining that his only reaction was to throw out the drink and get a new one.
But that new woman they have to discuss women's issues just might be. I haven't decided yet if she's cute, or just mesmerizingly odd.
I once found a Tex-Mex restaurant in Bergen, Norway.
Evan Dando is a huge Round Rock fan. He says, "It's a shame about Ray."
Jones sucks at the plate. And has for 2-3 years. How he got the money he got just blows me away.
That's a valid point, but this isn't the thuggish NBA. If Lou doesn't have control, then that doesn't portend well for Cubs fans because Pinella has won a lot more games than Soriano.
That was absolutely beautiful. The Jakes' big inning is undone because the Astros could walk the #7 hitter to get to the pitcher.
Fucking genius!
Fuck that.
I don't think Dolan & Raymond are bad, but what kills me is when Dolan/Raymond (I can't remember which one it is) gets excited. He sounds like Kermit the Frog
I much prefer the blind Lance Berkman sculpting a bust of Don Baylor in red clay...but that's just me.
If Bagwell stood there and admired his shot, I would have expected Cammy to get beaned.
Do you think he will he go in as a Rocket or a Raptor?
At least Mozart didn't hang around to pack his stats, like that no-talent Salieri dude.
In 2001 Debbie could sew 3.47 sequins per minute (SPM). In 2002 she increase that number to 3.69 SPM. In 2003 when most jacket hags her age start getting carpal tunnel, Debbie just got faster and better reaching an amazing 3.99 SPM. Then in 2004 she broke the once unimaginable magic 4 SPM barrier, with 4.06. Coincidence? Arky?
I know for certain that a few years back there was a program similar to both above, but the funds were intended to assist unwanted cats.
I forget the name.
Hey Chico, she came after me. I don't need her projecting her failures on me! I don't have a dog in this fight, well maybe her, but my points are to be taken and understood by all here. Kinda like the song Jack and Diane!
He nailed it. Mixing in this was brilliant:
"I’ve never seen anything that no one had idea of anything"
One can only assume a striking writer helped him out to really nail the essence of the role.
Maybe my pop-culture reference was too obscure, even for this place.
Fuck you too.
That sounds like Sherman to me.
I think that was Sound Exchange.
Those places bring back memories. Another one was Infinite Records.
Sober as a judge. Dusty Baker is a retread who has left bad ballclubs in his wake. PC has forced MLB to do these minority hires. There are more qualified black and hispanic coaches than Dusty Baker. Aaron Harang can look to a great year next season. I don't see how Dusty Baker sells any tickets, so I don't see that as a factor.
Shiner and Queso stands at the end of every aisle.
To your original question, the answer is yes. Much like the B-Sharps and "General Admission," it was one of those things that was funny at first, and then less and less funny each successive time you heard it.
Caro is a good writer and I enjoy his books, but his biographies tend to come with an agenda. His Robert Moses bio was a fantastic read, but really only came from one angle while playing lip service to the other.
Dick Dale!
They shed their losing culture already? That was fast. I'm sure $20 mil per annum didn't influence that opinion in the slightest.
Wonderful- just wonderful. I laughed. I don't comprehend the rampant anti-semetic viewpoint that comes from the Euros. You'd think after killing like 12 million jews they'd pause, reflect and reorder their thinking. I swear that could happen again with the right mix of lunacy and cowardice (including the part of the US).
I've thought that Moehler perhaps might be being "saved" until closer to the trading deadline for a deal with a team desperate for pitching.
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I don't think people will be getting out the pitchforks and torches for Drayton because he didn't push $14 million to Andy Pettitte. Tough to see him go, but it's probably for the best at that price.
You don't think so? Sit back and watch the spectacle begin.
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A new standard of depravity. Has 99% of the fuckin' world gone mad?
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I think the order is going to be a little different. I think that the Astros get the Mets in the NLDS and the Phillies in the NLCS. Equally good for me. I've hated those Philly cocksuckers for a very long time. Maybe the Astros can make Art Howe an honorary coach and somehow pull off a triple play. Now that would be karma.
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i have one better. i smoked like maybe one pack of cigarettes in college in the 70s. tonight all i could think of was i need a cigarette ....
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David Wells. Good grief. Please no. And I like fat drunks who suffer from gout.
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Man, I wanted to keep the insults flying, but I've run out of ways to call you a cocksucker. Give me time.
I'll answer your question. When I say "corrosive effect" I mean a corrosive effect on the team's confidence. They are gripping harder than last year. If some Astros like Oswalt and Clemens have complained about the lack of hitting, I think Lidge's struggles have to be inside the heads of the other players, too. Do we know the extent of this? Of course not. Can you say that Lidge is the sole cause that is fucking up the rest of the team. No. I just don't think you can deny *some* link between his struggles and that of the team in other areas. If there was a snowball effect during the runs during the last two years where people like Jason Lane were really productive hitters, I think there can be a...shitball..effect when key people start having problems, too. Lidge's blown saves in key series' certainly have prevented the team from building up any kind of momentum. I think people in team sports are influenced by what is going on with other players, good and bad.
It seems obvious from your weak attempts at baseball commentary that you are the most comfortable when expressing your just beneath the surface scatalogical and homosexual fantasies, however, the idea that Lidge's struggles have affected the hitters is absurd. Your comments don't even stand up to a passing glance at logic, much less explain what's going on with the Astros.
The Astros were one of the worst offensive teams last year. Starting in June 06, they once again are that team. How was Lidge responsible for that? Did the Lidge effect begin in June, was it due to him being affected by Albert Pujols and psychically affecting the hitters? How is Lidge responsible for Lane's obvious inability to adjust to the way he's being pitched? How has it affected Ensberg's bat speed? If Lidge's blown saves have such an effect, why is Mike Lamb hitting much better this year than last? Why don't the other players consult Willy Taveras who seems to have found the antidote to Lidge's "corrosive effect"? Why are Luke Scott and Lance Berkman seemingly immune to the Lidge effect? Will Preston Wilson ever recover?
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I'll answer your question. When I say "corrosive effect" I mean a corrosive effect on the team's confidence. They are gripping harder than last year. If some Astros like Oswalt and Clemens have complained about the lack of hitting, I think Lidge's struggles have to be inside the heads of the other players, too. Do we know the extent of this? Of course not. Can you say that Lidge is the sole cause that is fucking up the rest of the team. No. I just don't think you can deny *some* link between his struggles and that of the team in other areas. If there was a snowball effect during the runs during the last two years where people like Jason Lane were really productive hitters, I think there can be a...shitball..effect when key people start having problems, too. Lidge's blown saves in key series' certainly have prevented the team from building up any kind of momentum. I think people in team sports are influenced by what is going on with other players, good and bad.
I don't buy this. First, I haven't seen the numbers to suggest that the correlative effect is really there and, second, even if the numbers showed a correlation, you'd have to make the case that this is also causation. I understand that you're not saying that Lidge is the cause of all the Astros' problems, but I think you're overstating that his poor performance is even partially to blame for the way the rest of the individuals on the team are playing. The Astros are a team with a thin margin of error that has been exceeded by a number of players not living up to expectations -- Lidge, Ensberg, Lane, Taveras, Pettitte, the back of the rotation, assorted others in the bullpen. There's nothing improbable that this could happen. It doesn't have to be explained even in part by something like Lidge getting other guys down. It's just something that happened.
And I don't think you're helping your argument by eroding the level of discourse here even further.
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Pravata, with all due respect, I don't come to your job and knock the dick out of your mouth. My opinions don't give me immunity from being wrong (or being a dumbass) any more than the cocks you take up your ass gives you immunity from having rectal cancer. The fact that you spent *any time at all* anklebiting my opinions and being such a fucking douche in the process does make me wonder what happened to you in life. You're such a *sensitive* little prick. All of this vitriol over baseball opinions? I don't understand people like you. I resort to evoking the magical "shut the fuck up" and "get a fucking life" and bid you adieu.
Are you this big of a candy ass every time someone calls you on your bullshit? Lidge has nothing to do with anything except the way he pitches. The rest of this act you seem to have honed at MySpace. It will get you nothing but banned here.
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having a closer with an ERA over 5.00 is bad. Having a closer with an ERA on this Astros team is particularly bad.
wait a minute, i thought having a closer with an ERA over 5.00 is good. shows what i know.
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It's all Lidge's fault. Ok.
Fuck you. You idiot. Did you even read the post?
The "corrosive effect" phrase is particularly hilarious. Is the point that Lidge was the reason they only could scrape up 2 runs vs Tomo Ohka? There's a number of erasure phrases in those 2 paragraphs, hard to tell.
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I still shudder at the mention of Woodie Fryman, old school Astro killah...
Or was that "000 000 000ld school?"
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Actors turned singers have provided some strong contenders:
Don Johnson - Heartbeat
Patrick Swayze - She's Like the Wind
Eddie Murphy - Party All the Time
Anything by a member of the original Star Trek cast, most notably Nimoy or Shatner.