Author Topic: Hinch (Read 3903 times)

JimR · « **on:** October 22, 2017, 04:27:28 pm »

Perhaps the worst comment I have seen on here was Hinch was “out of his depth.” Please. This team has now won 108 games. The best comment ever he made under the scrutiny of the malaise in New York: “This series was not over after two games and it is not over after five.” This team feeds off of his positive, confident approach, and we fans are lucky to have him.

TxRascal · « **Reply #1 on:** October 22, 2017, 04:43:04 pm »

Here's hoping he stays 'out of his depth' for one more series.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #2 on:** October 22, 2017, 05:00:07 pm »

Quote from: JimR on October 22, 2017, 04:27:28 pm

Perhaps the worst comment I have seen on here was Hinch was “out of his depth.”

Only a fool would say that.

Texifornia · « **Reply #3 on:** October 22, 2017, 05:47:16 pm »

I have a terrible sense of direction. Years ago, before the advent of GPS, I would sometimes be riding with a friend when we would come to an uncertain intersection. I would be asked which way I thought we should go and the driver would then do the opposite. I was initially perturbed but it soon became apparent that this method worked well in excess of 50% of the time, so thereafter I just accepted it. To this day it's a running joke among some of my friends.

The point is: I find myself often at odds with Hinch's decisions, but I don't let it bother me because over the last three years he's been right way more than I have and I recognize that.

Hinch is the archetype of the twenty first century manager.

austro · « **Reply #4 on:** October 22, 2017, 05:56:02 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on October 22, 2017, 05:00:07 pm

Only a fool would say that.

I thought you hated Steely Dan.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #5 on:** October 22, 2017, 05:57:52 pm »

Quote from: Texifornia on October 22, 2017, 05:47:16 pm

I have a terrible sense of direction. Years ago, before the advent of GPS, I would sometimes be riding with a friend when we would come to an uncertain intersection. I would be asked which way I thought we should go and the driver would then do the opposite. I was initially perturbed but it soon became apparent that this method worked well in excess of 50% of the time, so thereafter I just accepted it. To this day it's a running joke among some of my friends.

Had a buddy like that when I was in the army. We all knew we had been over-served when we realized we were letting him take the lead position anywhere.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #6 on:** October 22, 2017, 09:13:52 pm »

Quote from: austro on October 22, 2017, 05:56:02 pm

I thought you hated Steely Dan.

No. That's Ron Brandt. I quite liked them. Though by 1976 I had lost most interest in them.

Waldo · « **Reply #7 on:** October 22, 2017, 09:24:11 pm »

Not that I didn't already know it, but this postseason has shown me that I would not have the guts to be a MLB manager. Hinch has shown some gigantic cojones this postseason.

NeilT · « **Reply #8 on:** October 22, 2017, 09:42:50 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on October 22, 2017, 09:13:52 pm

No. That's Ron Brandt. I quite liked them. Though by 1976 I had lost most interest in them.

I was confused by the oddly similar naming of Steely Dan, Steeleye Span, and Stealer's Wheel, and the only song I could remember or really liked was Stuck in the Middle with You, which was sort of a one-hit wonder. So I spent the last half-hour listening to the Hits of Gerry Rafferty, all of which were better than I thought they were at the time, except for Stuck in the Middle with you which at the time I thought was great.

Go 'Stros.

jbm · « **Reply #9 on:** October 22, 2017, 10:50:27 pm »

Steeleye Span? I thought you might be bullshitting, but they are apparently real.

English folk band, who had a hit that "is one of only three top 50 British hits to be sung entirely in Latin." I'm not going to recommend it, but it is better than Do it Again.

chuck · « **Reply #10 on:** October 22, 2017, 11:53:20 pm »

Quote from: jbm on October 22, 2017, 10:50:27 pm

Steeleye Span? I thought you might be bullshitting, but they are apparently real.

English folk band, who had a hit that "is one of only three top 50 British hits to be sung entirely in Latin." I'm not going to recommend it, but it is better than Do it Again.

Whatever you do, don't google Fairport Convention.

Do it again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RgteX-IJNw

The Third Man · « **Reply #11 on:** October 23, 2017, 05:02:20 am »

Quote from: JimR on October 22, 2017, 04:27:28 pm

Perhaps the worst comment I have seen on here was Hinch was “out of his depth.” Please. This team has now won 108 games. The best comment ever he made under the scrutiny of the malaise in New York: “This series was not over after two games and it is not over after five.” This team feeds off of his positive, confident approach, and we fans are lucky to have him.

I cop to that. I was wrong about Hinch, like so many things. Glad to eat those words.

BlownRanger · « **Reply #12 on:** October 23, 2017, 11:19:02 am »

Hinch is usually extremely media-friendly, but I loved it on the trophy podium when he blew off the question and just spoke to the crowd.

doyce7 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 23, 2017, 11:25:25 am »

Quote from: BlownRanger on October 23, 2017, 11:19:02 am

Hinch is usually extremely media-friendly, but I loved it on the trophy podium when he blew off the question and just spoke to the crowd.

That was pretty great

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JimR · « **Reply #14 on:** October 23, 2017, 12:37:13 pm »

Quote from: The Third Man on October 23, 2017, 05:02:20 am

I cop to that. I was wrong about Hinch, like so many things. Glad to eat those words.

That’s ok. Emotion sometimes overrides good sense, and we all were emotional after Game Four.

geezerdonk · « **Reply #15 on:** October 23, 2017, 01:04:38 pm »

Not a big fan of Hinch's early on. I thought that they won in 2015 in spite of him, not because of him. Failure to make the playoffs in 2016 reinforced the negative opinion. There is no denying he did a masterful job this year. Integrating Beltran, McCann and Reddick in to the lineup efficiently could have been difficult. Bregman and Gurriel were newcomers for all practical purposes and they had to be fit in as well. He successfully navigated the injuries to Keuchel, Correa and Marisnick.

He got 21 wins out of Peacock and Fiers.

Pulling Morton after five and the Correa/Gurriel run and hit were great calls.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #16 on:** October 23, 2017, 01:33:48 pm »

Quote from: geezerdonk on October 23, 2017, 01:04:38 pm

Not a big fan of Hinch's early on. I thought that they won in 2015 in spite of him, not because of him. Failure to make the playoffs in 2016 reinforced the negative opinion. There is no denying he did a masterful job this year. Integrating Beltran, McCann and Reddick in to the lineup efficiently could have been difficult. Bregman and Gurriel were newcomers for all practical purposes and they had to be fit in as well. He successfully navigated the injuries to Keuchel, Correa and Marisnick.

He got 21 wins out of Peacock and Fiers.

Pulling Morton after five and the Correa/Gurriel run and hit were great calls.

Getting the thing back on track after the August injury fest was really impressive. Very short time to re-integrate a lot of moving parts and get things ready to compete at the highest level.

And it may be a modern vs days of yore thing, but the biggest personalities on the team are on the scorecard, not filling it out. Bad for TV broadcasts, good for winning.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #17 on:** October 23, 2017, 03:00:47 pm »

I think that Hinch did a masterful job of having the right guys in the lineup. When he was first introduced, I was worried because of his last managerial job, where he lost the clubhouse. Some of the players made fun of him. However, he has won me over. We're lucky to have him.

Mr. Appropriate · « **Reply #18 on:** October 23, 2017, 03:26:02 pm »

I have not been watching Hinch as long as most of you but damn did he make himself look good in game seven. Thought the way he managed Morton and McCullers was brilliant--I was expecting Peacock to follow Morton. Hinch seems like an unassuming servant leader. Don't know his background--has he managed in the N.L? (just--answered my own question-Diamondbacks).

It's still strange to be in the A.L.--Astros beat the Yanks in a seven game series (like i've wanted for years) and they are not the World Series Champions? It's just weird.

Also not looking forward to seeing Keuchel or Verlander (or anyone else from the bullpen) with a bat in their hands. Curious to see how Hinch manages the team with the N.L. rules. Expect this to be the hardest series yet, as it should be, but these players (and Hinch) have me believing they can do it.

WVastro · « **Reply #19 on:** October 23, 2017, 03:36:06 pm »

I've thoroughly enjoyed Hinch's post game interviews all season. Seems like a calm and thoughtful presence. I can't imagine this team ever having an issue with him.

homer · « **Reply #20 on:** October 23, 2017, 04:24:16 pm »

Radio guys said that Hinch went into the manager's meeting before game 6 and said 'It's going to be Verlander, Peacock, Giles and we're going to win 7-1.'

JimR · « **Reply #21 on:** October 23, 2017, 04:38:22 pm »

Quote from: WVastro on October 23, 2017, 03:36:06 pm

I've thoroughly enjoyed Hinch's post game interviews all season. Seems like a calm and thoughtful presence. I can't imagine this team ever having an issue with him.

This. He is intelligent, articulate, and firm. My sense is the players would fight for him.

AtascAstro · « **Reply #22 on:** October 24, 2017, 08:55:10 am »

Nice glimpse of Hinch's style in Verducci's writup on Game 6 (great read)

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New York had been a horror for the Astros. They lost three games, played jittery baseball and were cursed and personally insulted by some vulgar Yankee Stadium fans (or worse, as happened to manager A.J. Hinch’s family, doused with beer). Hinch felt the anxiety of his team after Game 5 there, but didn’t want the theatrics of a full-blown team meeting to exacerbate the nervousness. So as he walked through the postgame clubhouse he stopped just long enough to tell them, “This was not a five-game series. Day off tomorrow. No baseball. Come back and be ready to play Friday.”

Immediately following that is a bit about how he includes the veterans, which he seems to have done masterfully.

Fredia · « **Reply #23 on:** October 24, 2017, 10:18:47 am »

horrible. skankees all the way

juliogotay · « **Reply #24 on:** October 24, 2017, 11:58:59 am »

Quote from: AtascAstro on October 24, 2017, 08:55:10 am

Nice glimpse of Hinch's style in Verducci's writup on Game 6 (great read)

Immediately following that is a bit about how he includes the veterans, which he seems to have done masterfully.

It is really refreshing to see how disciplined and savvy some of the young Astros stars are at the plate. (reading the Bregman and Correa comments).

geezerdonk · « **Reply #25 on:** October 24, 2017, 12:13:08 pm »

Amazing that a team that hits the ball so hard would have so few strikeouts. I don't think that you can credit that to anything but Hinch and his coaches.

juliogotay · « **Reply #26 on:** October 24, 2017, 12:17:46 pm »

Quote from: geezerdonk on October 24, 2017, 12:13:08 pm

Amazing that a team that hits the ball so hard would have so few strikeouts. I don't think that you can credit that to anything but Hinch and his coaches.

I would think Luhnow and his staff have something to do with that in the player procurement process. Free swingers don't change stripes that easily. But certainly coaching can effect that by changing the mindset.

Bench · « **Reply #27 on:** October 24, 2017, 05:09:22 pm »

Quote from: juliogotay on October 24, 2017, 12:17:46 pm

I would think Luhnow and his staff have something to do with that in the player procurement process. Free swingers don't change stripes that easily. But certainly coaching can effect that by changing the mindset.

Verducci's world series preview contained this Game 7 gem:

There’s a bulletin board on a wall next to the wide entrance to Houston’s clubhouse. It is where Hinch posts his lineup each day, in addition to any other important club news. The story of Game 7 remained up as the team celebrated its outcome. Next to the lineup card were two side-by-side pictures of Yankees starter CC Sabathia from Game 3 in New York, one throwing his fastball and one throwing his slider. Sabathia had bedeviled them in Game 3 with six shutout innings built on 38 sliders. But the Astros decoded something in the pitch in Game 7. He tried 27 sliders, but this time he couldn’t get them to chase it (they swung at only three out the zone, one of which Evan Gattis blasted for a homer) or miss it (not once).

Next to the still pictures of Sabathia was a printout that had been posted before the game with the header World Series Itinerary, complete with reporting times and flight information for the trip to Los Angeles.