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BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« on: April 22, 2008, 09:38:04 pm »
I wasn't watching, but my friend said that tonight they were talking about Oswalt possibly being traded and mentioned that 'Roy wants to be on a contender'. I know this probably isn't really worthy of discussion, but did anyone catch what was said in better detail?

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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2008, 09:49:29 pm »
Since all of the clubs have shut them out, they're just making shit up.
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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2008, 10:01:37 pm »
I haven't watched Baseball Tonight in a long time.  But if they are saying that, it might have something to do with this:

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So what's a greater Astros concern? Roy Oswalt. Not his pitching, but his happiness. The righthander announced last year that he would be willing to waive his no-trade clause to join a winning team. How do you think he feels now, with a Houston team that could be even worse? This is a case to monitor as we approach the July 31 non-waivers trading deadline. Oswalt is making $13 million this season and has another $47 million guaranteed through 2011.

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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2008, 10:14:07 pm »
And ESPN has proven they are nothing if not trustworthy when it comes to the Astros today.
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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2008, 10:17:13 pm »
I haven't watched Baseball Tonight in a long time.  But if they are saying that, it might have something to do with this:

More BS from the NYC media

JO went wheedling the players late last season and got Roy to say he'd wave his no trade if the Astros asked him to and if it "would help the team".   The sweaty little New York putzs who write self agrandizing stories for the onastic New York sports fan can't account for the small matter of the Astros never considering trading Roy.

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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2008, 10:18:27 pm »
ESPN in general is a joke.   They ripped on valverde for "blowing another save" when it's their job to know the situation in the game.    Roy isn't going anywhere, and he already thinks this team can contend.    He said so in his first start.
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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2008, 10:22:36 pm »
We have the same record as the padres - when is the peavy trade talk gonna start?
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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2008, 10:25:51 pm »
We have the same record as the padres - when is the peavy trade talk gonna start?

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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2008, 10:26:11 pm »
We have the same record as the padres - when is the peavy trade talk gonna start?

Right now.  I'll take him.
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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2008, 10:27:51 pm »
Wandy for Peavy! Do it Ed!

And since our GM is known for adding another player--throw in Villareal, too.
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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2008, 11:58:20 pm »
And since our GM is known for adding another player--throw in Villareal, too.

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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2008, 05:48:41 am »
I saw this report. Peter Gammons mentioned that he talked to two former Astros who said that Roy would be willing to wave his no-trade clause if the Astros were out of contention and that he was committed to winning. Then he mentioned that Hank Steinbrenner would be very happy about this. He must have talked with Ensberg and Lane. I am disgusted with this attitude that the rest of baseball is a glorified farm system for Boston, New York and LA.

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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2008, 07:36:46 am »
I saw this report. Peter Gammons mentioned that he talked to two former Astros who said that Roy would be willing to wave his no-trade clause if the Astros were out of contention and that he was committed to winning. Then he mentioned that Hank Steinbrenner would be very happy about this. He must have talked with Ensberg and Lane. I am disgusted with this attitude that the rest of baseball is a glorified farm system for Boston, New York and LA.

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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2008, 07:46:08 am »
Don't watch.  I stopped years ago and life is better for it.

With the exception of College Gameday and actual games, ESPN has completely fell from my "goto" list. There was a time when I rarely missed an episode of Baseball Tonight, but it turned into shit. I too have not watched BBT in years and don't miss it one bit.
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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2008, 08:21:29 am »
ESPN in general is a joke.   They ripped on valverde for "blowing another save" when it's their job to know the situation in the game.

Are you suggesting that entering the game with a one-run lead and a man on third with no outs in the eighth inning is a little bit different kind of save opportunity than the other two he's blown?

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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2008, 10:47:28 am »
why?

Why not?  Isn't this the ESPN BBT (Bullshit 'Bout Trades) show? 
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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2008, 11:04:29 am »
With the exception of College Gameday and actual games, ESPN has completely fell from my "goto" list. There was a time when I rarely missed an episode of Baseball Tonight, but it turned into shit. I too have not watched BBT in years and don't miss it one bit.
When Harold Reynolds was on, I actually enjoyed the show.  But same here, haven't watched in years.
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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2008, 11:05:42 am »
The "That's Nasty" section is a mockery of baseball programming.  You can literally hear Kruk vomitting in his mouth.

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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2008, 11:17:10 am »
With the exception of College Gameday and actual games, ESPN has completely fell from my "goto" list. There was a time when I rarely missed an episode of Baseball Tonight, but it turned into shit. I too have not watched BBT in years and don't miss it one bit.


I agree with you about College Gameday. I am an avid viewer. They also seem to deal in facts on that show. It is the only ESPN non-game programming that I make a point to watch.

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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2008, 11:20:46 am »

I agree with you about College Gameday. I am an avid viewer. They also seem to deal in facts on that show. It is the only ESPN non-game programming that I make a point to watch.

And even Gameday I don't watch as mutch since they super-sized/over-padded it.
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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2008, 11:42:49 am »
I don't know if the reasons for Harold Reynolds getting fired were valid or not.  I do know that he made BBTN and it hasn't been the same since he left.  I met him at the College World Series a few years ago and he seemed like a good guy.  He wasn't one of those people that are dicks as soon as the camera turns off.
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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2008, 11:50:47 am »
I don't know if the reasons for Harold Reynolds getting fired were valid or not.  I do know that he made BBTN and it hasn't been the same since he left.  I met him at the College World Series a few years ago and he seemed like a good guy.  He wasn't one of those people that are dicks as soon as the camera turns off.

He's on MLBTV now and does a semi-decent job, although he is not someone I personally enjoy listening to give analysis of the game today.  But suffice it to say, most guys who played and are employed in some capacity to give analysis on any broadcast network are turned from pure analysis to pure entertainment rather quickly.  If they can't hold the attention of the fringe fan watching the show, they can't hold the job.  They know they have the ardent fan on-board already, so they never worry about them (us).  The thing that is happening though is that these shows are about the fringe fans now who then parade around as if they are all knowledgeable about the game just because "I heard on Baseball Tonight that....", while the ardent fans are leaving these show behind wishing there was something good to tune into to get real information about baseball happenings.

That includes "Roy Oswalt will be traded to the Yankees... film at eleven..." sort of crap.  The fringe fans who pick up those diddies then hop around the stadiums, radio talk shows, internet fan sites, message boards, et. al. talking it up about these things as if they are true.  They are instead, woefully, lead by the nose to the wrong information as it were and so mistaken.
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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2008, 02:19:14 pm »
Are you suggesting that entering the game with a one-run lead and a man on third with no outs in the eighth inning is a little bit different kind of save opportunity than the other two he's blown?

if he isn't, i am.
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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2008, 02:26:19 pm »
Are you suggesting that entering the game with a one-run lead and a man on third with no outs in the eighth inning is a little bit different kind of save opportunity than the other two he's blown?

There was one out at the time.  But your point remains just as valid.  Valverde did his job

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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2008, 02:52:47 pm »
There was one out at the time.  But your point remains just as valid.  Valverde did his job

Thanks for the correction. I agree. Valverde was brought into a situation about as tough as you can get and didn't crack. I'm sure the talk-radio crowd was howling when Cooper called for him. But to ESPN, it's just another blown save, same as the others.

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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2008, 04:08:04 pm »
But to ESPN, it's just another blown save, same as the others.

I'm waiting for ESPN to do better than they did last night on BBT (I watched to get a replay of the Astros/Padres game because I went to the Round Rock game) on Brad Lidge.  They, in passing, said "Brad Lidge picked up his fourth save... he has a .000 earned run average".  No passion, not commentary beyond that report.  That was it!  No, "... that's because he's glad he's out of the same division as Albert Pujols?!?!  His mental state is much more relaxed and at peace" screaming into the camera.  Oh come on ESPN, you let me down on that one!

(P.S. A month more success by Lidge and I fully expect a breakdown by BBT that will indeed include... "face it, he doesn't face Albert Pujols 17 games a year any more... he's better because of that!")
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Re: BB Tonight making up BS about an Oswalt trade?
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2008, 10:59:29 pm »
if he isn't, i am.

of course I was, thus the joke comment.   
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