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next Astros retired numbers
« on: August 23, 2006, 09:40:53 pm »
I'm in a good mood because of the win and started feeling Astro nostalgic.  It's been discussed here several times, but what's the latest guess on Astros next retired numbers after Bagwell officially retires (assuming he is next)  I heard J.R.Richard or Cedeno.  I never seem to hear anything about Joe Niekro in regard to retired number potential.  The man had a helluva career and took the team on his back in 80 in that glorious Dodger one game playoff.

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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2006, 09:48:37 pm »
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I'm in a good mood because of the win and started feeling Astro nostalgic.  It's been discussed here several times, but what's the latest guess on Astros next retired numbers after Bagwell officially retires (assuming he is next)  I heard J.R.Richard or Cedeno.  I never seem to hear anything about Joe Niekro in regard to retired number potential.  The man had a helluva career and took the team on his back in 80 in that glorious Dodger one game playoff.




The next number retired after "5" should be "7."  No others should be retired until maybe Berkman down the line.  The Astros have too many retired numbers already, in my opinion.
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2006, 10:00:21 pm »
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2006, 10:04:22 pm »
With all the big name pitchers that have worn the star on their hat, Niekro is the all time Astros win-leader. He deserves a little more attention me thinks.

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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2006, 12:04:53 am »
Maybe they should retire *54
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2006, 10:35:04 am »
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The next number retired after "5" should be "7."  No others should be retired until maybe Berkman down the line.  The Astros have too many retired numbers already, in my opinion.






I agree.  The Astros have WAY too many retired numbers right now.  As of now, they should have exactly one....49.  #5 and #7 should be next, but after that, no one comes close in my opinion.
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2006, 11:06:32 am »
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I'm in a good mood because of the win and started feeling Astro nostalgic.  It's been discussed here several times, but what's the latest guess on Astros next retired numbers after Bagwell officially retires (assuming he is next)  I heard J.R.Richard or Cedeno.  I never seem to hear anything about Joe Niekro in regard to retired number potential.  The man had a helluva career and took the team on his back in 80 in that glorious Dodger one game playoff.






The next number retired after "5" should be "7."  No others should be retired until maybe Berkman down the line.  The Astros have too many retired numbers already, in my opinion.





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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2006, 11:29:31 am »
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The next number retired after "5" should be "7."  No others should be retired until maybe Berkman down the line.  The Astros have too many retired numbers already, in my opinion.






I agree.  The Astros have WAY too many retired numbers right now.  As of now, they should have exactly one....49.  #5 and #7 should be next, but after that, no one comes close in my opinion.





I think "34"--Ryan--was a legitimate number to retire, too, but just those two before Bagwell and Biggio.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2006, 11:33:43 am »
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The next number retired after "5" should be "7."  No others should be retired until maybe Berkman down the line.  The Astros have too many retired numbers already, in my opinion.






I agree.  The Astros have WAY too many retired numbers right now.  As of now, they should have exactly one....49.  #5 and #7 should be next, but after that, no one comes close in my opinion.




Exactly. Except, I really don't have a problem with #24. When I was a kid, he was the man. It bothered me seeing Jason Lane wearing it before it was retired. Of course, now I realize it wasn't the number.
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2006, 12:06:01 pm »
This is more of an AD thread, but the Astros have had one of the most liberal policies on retiring numbers of any team in MLB.  I think, with VERY rare exceptions, retired numbers should be limited to Hall of Fame players who spent MOST (not some) of their career with the Astros.  Period.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2006, 12:48:42 pm »
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This is more of an AD thread, but the Astros have had one of the most liberal policies on retiring numbers of any team in MLB.  I think, with VERY rare exceptions, retired numbers should be limited to Hall of Fame players who spent MOST (not some) of their career with the Astros.  Period.




Exactly.  Nolan Ryan was a HOF player, but he doesn't deserve his number retired by the Astros.  Jose Cruz was a nice player, as was Jimmy Wynn.  Neither deserve their numbers retired.  The idea of retiring JR Richard's number is comical.  Larry Dierker, for all his many years of contribution in various capacities is the only non-current Astros who is worthy of even consideration.  Biggio and Bagwell are no brainers.
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2006, 04:48:32 pm »
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Exactly.  Nolan Ryan was a HOF player, but he doesn't deserve his number retired by the Astros.  Jose Cruz was a nice player, as was Jimmy Wynn.  Neither deserve their numbers retired.  The idea of retiring JR Richard's number is comical.  Larry Dierker, for all his many years of contribution in various capacities is the only non-current Astros who is worthy of even consideration.  Biggio and Bagwell are no brainers.




While I agree with the general idea here, when it comes to Nolan -- he did spend longer in Houston than anywhere else.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2006, 04:51:05 pm »
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This is more of an AD thread, but the Astros have had one of the most liberal policies on retiring numbers of any team in MLB.  I think, with VERY rare exceptions, retired numbers should be limited to Hall of Fame players who spent MOST (not some) of their career with the Astros.  Period.




Exactly.  Nolan Ryan was a HOF player, but he doesn't deserve his number retired by the Astros.  Jose Cruz was a nice player, as was Jimmy Wynn.  Neither deserve their numbers retired.  The idea of retiring JR Richard's number is comical.  Larry Dierker, for all his many years of contribution in various capacities is the only non-current Astros who is worthy of even consideration.  Biggio and Bagwell are no brainers.





I'm on the exact same page as Hudson.  I'd put Oswalt and Berkman on the watch list, but they're still years away from consideration.

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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2006, 04:51:43 pm »
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While I agree with the general idea here, when it comes to Nolan -- he did spend longer in Houston than anywhere else.





Were Ryan wearing an Astros cap in the HOF, then I'd consider it.  Let the Rangers retire his number.
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2006, 04:52:45 pm »
Pretty sure the Rangers did retire his number.

Ryan's best years were in California...let THEM retire his number.

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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2006, 10:44:40 am »
The Astros are going to have 9 or 10 numbers retired before the organization is 50 years old...