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« on: April 10, 2006, 01:23:11 pm »
Berkman's defense at 1st has been spectacular so far, and has made it a lot easier to not miss Bags so much.  That double play to get Soriano off third was a thing of beauty.
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2006, 02:06:20 pm »
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Berkman's defense at 1st has been spectacular so far, and has made it a lot easier to not miss Bags so much.  That double play to get Soriano off third was a thing of beauty.



For some reason, there is this impression out there that Berkman is brutal with the glove.  I'm not sure where that comes from.  He's a solid outfielder and pretty darn good firstbaseman.  He always has been.
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Re: Berkman
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2006, 02:12:04 pm »
I think it's because his absent-mindedness and aloofness at times (i.e. starting to walk off the field with only 2 outs), in addition to his girth, has given the impression to some that he doesn't know what he's doing in the field. Maybe now that he's involved in the action more, he can begin to show otherwise. He seems to be off to a good start.
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Re: Berkman
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2006, 02:14:16 pm »
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Maybe now that he's involved in the action more, he can begin to show otherwise. He seems to be off to a good start.



He's always shown otherwise.  That's my point.  People who think/thought Berkman can't/couldn't play the field have never watched him play the field.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2006, 02:18:39 pm »
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He's always shown otherwise.  That's my point.  People who think/thought Berkman can't/couldn't play the field have never watched him play the field.



And that's my point. I think people were often blinded by his goofyness in the OF that they didn't get a good look at his fielding. Now that he's in a position to be slightly less goofy, his fielding abilities might be more noticeable to those who don't pay as close attention as others.
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2006, 02:31:15 pm »
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For some reason, there is this impression out there that Berkman is brutal with the glove.  I'm not sure where that comes from.



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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2006, 02:32:10 pm »
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Maybe now that he's involved in the action more, he can begin to show otherwise. He seems to be off to a good start.



He's always shown otherwise.  That's my point.  People who think/thought Berkman can't/couldn't play the field have never watched him play the field.



Well he isn't the most graceful, but I have to say I think he's pretty good.  Last year he was even less nimble in the field but I think last year's performance was obviously hindered by his knee injury and subsequent lack of strength in the leg.  Setting aside that he still had a solid year offensively, some mental lapses on his part are all some people bother to consider.  

The other thing is while he doesn't look fast, in motion,  he seems to get from point A to point B faster than most realize.  He just doesn't look pretty doing it.
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2006, 02:48:22 pm »
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Maybe now that he's involved in the action more, he can begin to show otherwise. He seems to be off to a good start.



He's always shown otherwise.  That's my point.  People who think/thought Berkman can't/couldn't play the field have never watched him play the field.



Well he isn't the most graceful, but I have to say I think he's pretty good.  Last year he was even less nimble in the field but I think last year's performance was obviously hindered by his knee injury and subsequent lack of strength in the leg.  Setting aside that he still had a solid year offensively, some mental lapses on his part are all some people bother to consider.  

The other thing is while he doesn't look fast, in motion,  he seems to get from point A to point B faster than most realize.  He just doesn't look pretty doing it.



Even after almost a year, it is hard to forget how good Bagwell was at 1st, too. Berkman is living in the shadow of one of the greats. It isn't fair, completely, to compare the two, but it does sit in the back of the mind.

I always thought Berkman fielded fine. He may be better than that.
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2006, 02:59:20 pm »
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...in addition to his girth, ...



We can definitively dismiss with this as well.  Also, anybody notice the foul pop he chased early in the game yesterday?
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2006, 03:02:09 pm »
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We can definitively dismiss with this as well.  Also, anybody notice the foul pop he chased early in the game yesterday?



He was really moving, even JD mentioned how well he was running.
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2006, 03:20:37 pm »
Berkman just hit his fourth HR of the season. Man, how great is it to see him get off to a strong start? Now if Lane and Ensberg could get hot......
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2006, 03:31:59 pm »
Wilson just went yard again too. Good times.
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2006, 03:36:16 pm »
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Wilson just went yard again too. Good times.



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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2006, 03:46:50 pm »
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Wilson just went yard again too. Good times.



Dammit, I missed it again. I have yet to see any of his HRs.
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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2006, 03:52:22 pm »

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For some reason, there is this impression out there that Berkman is brutal with the glove.  I'm not sure where that comes from.  He's a solid outfielder and pretty darn good firstbaseman.  He always has been.



I never thought he was brutal, but he has made a couple of plays I was pleasantly surprised (not shocked) he could make.
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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2006, 05:33:46 am »
berkman is starting out pretty good this year.
Hitting .360,  with 4 homers in 7 games. Not to bad....
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2006, 11:05:50 am »
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berkman is starting out pretty good this year.
Hitting .360,  with 4 homers in 7 games. Not to bad....


You do realise that people are talking about Berkman's defense, right?
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2006, 11:14:54 am »
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berkman is starting out pretty good this year.
Hitting .360,  with 4 homers in 7 games. Not to bad....


You do realise that people are talking about Berkman's defense, right?



Let's see. He's started two threads (one about fantacrap) and posted this reply in his 3 'efforts' so far.

0-3 with 2 errors and several wild pitches. A forgettable debut.
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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2006, 12:36:24 pm »
"Let's see. He's started two threads (one about fantacrap) and posted this reply in his 3 'efforts' so far."





no reason for this immature post. i was just stating his offense started out nice this year.
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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2006, 12:40:06 pm »
change your user name, junior. that one is offensive.
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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2006, 12:57:36 pm »
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no reason for this immature post. i was just stating his offense started out nice this year.



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The thread was about Berkman's defense. Try to keep up.
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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2006, 01:18:44 pm »
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no reason for this immature post. i was just stating his offense started out nice this year.


The comment was totally disingenuous to the thread in which it was posted.  Batting averages we can look up.  Defense can really only be assessed by watching games, and that was what was being talked about.

If you'd care to make a comment about Berkman's average - something more than ".340 is good" - then such would be welcome.

Here's an example:  Berkman's ripping the cover off the ball so far, but I don't think that we've seen much quality pitching from the Marlins or Nats.
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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2006, 01:25:35 pm »
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no reason for this immature post. i was just stating his offense started out nice this year.


The comment was totally disingenuous to the thread in which it was posted.  Batting averages we can look up.  Defense can really only be assessed by watching games, and that was what was being talked about.

If you'd care to make a comment about Berkman's average - something more than ".340 is good" - then such would be welcome.

Here's an example:  Berkman's ripping the cover off the ball so far, but I don't think that we've seen much quality pitching from the Marlins or Nats.



Now this, we can have a healthy disagreement.

Livan, Dontrelle, and Paterson are all quality pitchers.  Ryan Drese has had good moments.  Those two teams aren't as bad as they're made out.
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2006, 01:55:11 pm »
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no reason for this immature post. i was just stating his offense started out nice this year.


The comment was totally disingenuous to the thread in which it was posted.  Batting averages we can look up.  Defense can really only be assessed by watching games, and that was what was being talked about.

If you'd care to make a comment about Berkman's average - something more than ".340 is good" - then such would be welcome.

Here's an example:  Berkman's ripping the cover off the ball so far, but I don't think that we've seen much quality pitching from the Marlins or Nats.



Now this, we can have a healthy disagreement.

Livan, Dontrelle, and Paterson are all quality pitchers.  Ryan Drese has had good moments.  Those two teams aren't as bad as they're made out.



Agreed.  The Nats are getting kicked around by the pundits (should I be stopping right there?) but I see their batting order and think it's pretty solid.  They could use some better performances from some guys, but what team can't?  Seriously, their roster has Vidro, Guillen, Nick Johnson and Soriano.  All solid players.  Add in Zimmerman, who looks to be a good young player (both defensively and offensively).  Schneider is a good catcher.  They have a couple journeyman types in Clayton and Byrd.  Their pitching seemed fair, if not young in spots (Majewski-26, Cordero-24), but the starting rotation has solid contributors, accept for Drese (whom I developed a dislike for as a Ranger).  

The Marlins... boy, that's going to be a scary lineup if they continue as they started in that series.  Hermida, Jacobs, Willingham, and Ramirez did well for young'uns.  Ramirez redeemed himself, to a degree, defensively after game 1.
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« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2006, 11:07:24 am »
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I think it's because his absent-mindedness and aloofness at times (i.e. starting to walk off the field with only 2 outs), in addition to his girth, has given the impression to some that he doesn't know what he's doing in the field. Maybe now that he's involved in the action more, he can begin to show otherwise. He seems to be off to a good start.





I am Berkman, hear me roar
My numbers too big to ignore
And I know its time to step up and be ?The Man?
Yes, I've heard it all before
That I?m an airhead and a bore
But I am just a part in Someone?s bigger plan

CHORUS
Oh yes I am slow
Tore my knee up, what the fuck?
Yes, playing football
But at least not ?washing my truck?
If I can draw a walk, I don?t have to run
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am Berkman

You can laugh at my attention span
But I can hit the ball farther than
Just about anyone else on the team
Now that Baggy?s here no longer
My position?s even stronger
At least I think so? though I?m not sure just what that means

Oh yes I was cute
When I first came on the scene
Yes, somewhat androgynous
So they called me ?Maybelline?
If I hit 40 dongs, they?ll forget my femininity
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am Berkman


I am Berkman watch me rake
And then give ESPN my ?take?
As I spread my pearls of wisdom across the league
Don?t know how many outs there are, I?ll confess
But you?ll love my OPS
And my R-CAP has to be seen to be believed

Oh yes I went to Rice
Though I?m not known for my brains
But yes, I will suffice
On Sports Center every day
If I have to I can face anything
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am Berkman
Oh, I am Berkman
I am invincible
I am strong
I am Berkman?
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« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2006, 11:47:07 am »
So now we have Helen Reddy as our 1st baseperson?
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« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2006, 11:54:44 am »
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So now we have Helen Reddy as our 1st baseperson?



According to the Fielding Bible she's a +15, so if she can hit a little, I say we keep her.
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« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2006, 12:00:25 pm »
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According to the Fielding Bible she's a +15, so if she can hit a little, I say we keep her.


IIRC, she's only ever had one or two hits in her entire career.
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« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2006, 12:01:47 pm »
Bravo.  I actually laughed out loud whilst in class.
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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2006, 12:09:51 pm »
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I am Berkman, hear me roar
My numbers too big to ignore
And I know its time to step up and be ?The Man?
Yes, I've heard it all before
That I?m an airhead and a bore
But I am just a part in Someone?s bigger plan

CHORUS
Oh yes I am slow
Tore my knee up, what the fuck?
Yes, playing football
But at least not ?washing my truck?
If I can draw a walk, I don?t have to run
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am Berkman

You can laugh at my attention span
But I can hit the ball farther than
Just about anyone else on the team
Now that Baggy?s here no longer
My position?s even stronger
At least I think so? though I?m not sure just what that means

Oh yes I was cute
When I first came on the scene
Yes, somewhat androgynous
So they called me ?Maybelline?
If I hit 40 dongs, they?ll forget my femininity
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am Berkman


I am Berkman watch me rake
And then give ESPN my ?take?
As I spread my pearls of wisdom across the league
Don?t know how many outs there are, I?ll confess
But you?ll love my OPS
And my R-CAP has to be seen to be believed

Oh yes I went to Rice
Though I?m not known for my brains
But yes, I will suffice
On Sports Center every day
If I have to I can face anything
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am Berkman
Oh, I am Berkman
I am invincible
I am strong
I am Berkman?




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« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2006, 02:52:19 pm »
Man, that's just beautiful.
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