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oh, this is going to be fun
« on: October 16, 2005, 09:06:14 pm »
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"Edmonds took a 3-1 pitch up and in for four ball four . . . but amazingly umpire Phil Cuzzi called it a strike, then threw Edmonds of the game.

Apparently Cuzzi decided he was the show Sunday in Houston."
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Re: oh, this is going to be fun
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2005, 09:08:03 pm »
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Jeff Gordon

"Edmonds took a 3-1 pitch up and in for four ball four . . . but amazingly umpire Phil Cuzzi called it a strike, then threw Edmonds of the game.

Apparently Cuzzi decided he was the show Sunday in Houston."


Apparently there will be crying in baseball.
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2005, 09:16:14 pm »
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Jeff Gordon

"Edmonds took a 3-1 pitch up and in for four ball four . . . but amazingly umpire Phil Cuzzi called it a strike, then threw Edmonds of the game.

Apparently Cuzzi decided he was the show Sunday in Houston."


Apparently there will be crying in baseball.



Some immediate BFiB topic headings

 UMPIRES COULD CARE LESS
  BASEBALL SUCKS
  mabry was safe
  I thought the tie goes to the runner...
  umps should be embarassed
 this series is fixed
 Being in Houston, I guess daddy Bush had the umpires over to
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 ripped off again
  bleep, mabry was safe !!!!
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Re: oh, this is going to be fun
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2005, 09:18:52 pm »
I thought the balls and strikes were bad today, but Mabry was OUT.
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Re: oh, this is going to be fun
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2005, 09:19:21 pm »
You think the 3rdnials fans are upset... I used to share an office with the biggest sCrubs fan ever... I am willing to bet if I called him right now, he is literally unable to talk.  He is strange....the only team he hates worse than the 3rdnials are the Stros...
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2005, 09:19:23 pm »
Mabry slowed down before he reached the bag...he knew he was out.
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2005, 09:20:21 pm »
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Mabry slowed down before he reached the bag...he knew he was out.


That, and the fact that umpteen replays showed him to be out.
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Re: oh, this is going to be fun
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2005, 09:23:45 pm »
Anyone else wonder if the play would have been turned if Biggio (and I am a HUGE Biggio fan) would have still been in the game?
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2005, 09:25:09 pm »
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Anyone else wonder if the play would have been turned if Biggio (and I am a HUGE Biggio fan) would have still been in the game?


Unlikely, although his throw was the easier one.  Gar pushed all the right buttons today.  La Russa pushed the one marked self-destruct.
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2005, 09:26:12 pm »
I'm a huge Biggio fan as well but there's no wondering about it.  Mabry would have been safe with noodle arm in there.
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2005, 09:26:42 pm »
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Anyone else wonder if the play would have been turned if Biggio (and I am a HUGE Biggio fan) would have still been in the game?



No.  And no, I don't think it would have.
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2005, 09:27:08 pm »
absolutely.
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2005, 09:28:44 pm »
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absolutely.



Same vein, does Burke run up the Hill and catch Rodriguez fly?
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2005, 09:30:36 pm »
I think it would be a tough thing to ask, and say what you want about Willy (like he should have caught Pooholes' liner in the 9th) but he worked out on that hill a lot this year.
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2005, 09:31:37 pm »
Better chance of that, but no, I don't think he does it.

Garner is definitely the manager of the year so far.
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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2005, 09:31:44 pm »
Exactly!  I have questioned some of Phil's decisions this year but I have to admit...he has been right WAY MORE than he has been wrong...IMO
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Re: oh, this is going to be fun
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2005, 09:33:36 pm »
I'm still vexed by the decision to take off the bunt by Burke even thought it all worked out in the end.
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2005, 09:34:48 pm »
the umpire was consistent as far as i am concerned. the strike zone was huge for both teams.

we'd better score a bunch tomorrow. the Cards will get all the calls.

oh yeah, Mabry was out.
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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2005, 09:38:14 pm »
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the umpire was consistent as far as i am concerned. the strike zone was huge for both teams.

we'd better score a bunch tomorrow. the Cards will get all the calls.

oh yeah, Mabry was out.



Against Carpenter. They can do it.

Mabry was out. Bruntlett/Everett made a quick turn. I'm still amazed.
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« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2005, 09:40:10 pm »
Biggio does not make that play. Burke does not catch Rodriguez's blast.
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« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2005, 09:41:47 pm »
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Biggio does not make that play. Burke does not catch Rodriguez's blast.


Berkman probably doesn't catch the almost-gapper that Burke pouched (although I imagine the defensive shift would've been different if Berkman was still in left).
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« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2005, 09:43:45 pm »
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I think it would be a tough thing to ask, and say what you want about Willy (like he should have caught Pooholes' liner in the 9th) but he worked out on that hill a lot this year.




Eh, I thought Willy made the mature play by not risking extra bases on Pujols' liner. Keep the play in front of you, if he commited on a risky play, and not catch it, I'd still be at MMPUS.
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« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2005, 09:49:38 pm »
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I think it would be a tough thing to ask, and say what you want about Willy (like he should have caught Pooholes' liner in the 9th) but he worked out on that hill a lot this year.




Eh, I thought Willy made the mature play by not risking extra bases on Pujols' liner. Keep the play in front of you, if he commited on a risky play, and not catch it, I'd still be at MMPUS.



I was saying the same thing.  He took kind of a round about route to the ball, but the worst thing he could do was let it get by him.  The ball took kind of a funny carom, but keeping Pujols at 1B was key.
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« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2005, 09:51:36 pm »
greed.  Also, cudos to Bruntlett for going for two, rather than trying to force a throw to home.  Astros had their heads in the game today, the 3rds were in cloud cookoo land.
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« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2005, 09:58:06 pm »
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greed.  Also, cudos to Bruntlett for going for two, rather than trying to force a throw to home.  Astros had their heads in the game today, the 3rds were in cloud cookoo land.




He had no shot at home. Kudos to Gar for playing DP depth. Standard when you're still up a run, but it wouldn't have surpised me in the least if LaGenius, in that situation, played his infielders in. Great job all around in decision making. Timely defensive substitutions, and the pitchers made the perfect pitch in the all the key situations. Awesome game.
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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2005, 09:59:58 pm »
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He had no shot at home. Kudos to Gar for playing DP depth. Standard when you're still up a run, but it wouldn't have surpised me in the least if LaGenius, in that situation, played his infielders in. Great job all around in decision making. Timely defensive substitutions, and the pitchers made the perfect pitch in the all the key situations. Awesome game.


YOu might be right.  And that ball would've been fielded by a drawn in Bruntlett and he most likely would've got an out at home.  But then the inning would not be over and there would still be a RISP.
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« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2005, 10:24:10 pm »
A great game, but I'm definitely ready for Lidge to go back to "lights out" form and farther from "gas can" form.  I can't stand too much drama like that.  I almost lost it when my 8 year old daughter walked in front of the television in the ninth.  Wow, what a game.  Wow, what a team.
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« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2005, 11:10:59 pm »
try giving the Cardinals some credit. Pujols, Walker and Sanders had great ABs.
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« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2005, 11:31:35 pm »
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greed.  Also, cudos to Bruntlett for going for two, rather than trying to force a throw to home.  Astros had their heads in the game today, the 3rds were in cloud cookoo land.



Garner said in the postgame interview that he wanted Bruntlett to go home when the ball was initially hit, and he didn't think they had a shot at a DP, but once Everett made a great turn at 2nd, he knew they had it.

He had no shot at home. Kudos to Gar for playing DP depth. Standard when you're still up a run, but it wouldn't have surpised me in the least if LaGenius, in that situation, played his infielders in. Great job all around in decision making. Timely defensive substitutions, and the pitchers made the perfect pitch in the all the key situations. Awesome game.
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Re: oh, this is going to be fun
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2005, 11:53:08 pm »
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Better chance of that, but no, I don't think he does it.

Garner is definitely the manager of the year so far.



Not that his regular season doesn't merit it, but his moves in the post-season have had the Midas touch, which leads me to ask a stupid question:  does post-season managing have any effect for voting for MOY?  I know all player voting is regular season only, just wondering if the same is true for managers.  I would assume so (with regards to Benny Hill.)
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« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2005, 12:00:42 am »
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greed.  Also, cudos to Bruntlett for going for two, rather than trying to force a throw to home.  Astros had their heads in the game today, the 3rds were in cloud cookoo land.



Bruntlett said that he was thinking about two before the play even began, which is key.  When a player is in the game he must think about all the scenarios before the ball is in play, so there is no hesitation once the ball gets to you.  Kudos to Bruntlett.  I am so amazed that the Stros have so many young guys coming up huge in serious pressure situations.

Oh, and speaking of huge, I enjoyed Lidge's on-the-field interview.
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« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2005, 12:05:22 am »
But Cox and LaRussa are amazing.  There's no way Garner could be at their levels.
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