Astros @ Athletics July 18, 2016

[Mr. Happy]

Your lineups for tonight's late show:

Astros

RFGeorge Springer (R)
1BMarwin Gonzalez (S)
2BJose Altuve (R)
SSCarlos Correa (R)
3BLuis Valbuena (L)
LFColby Rasmus (L)
CFCarlos Gomez (R)
DHA.J. Reed (L)
CJason Castro (L)

HOU: Mike Fiers (R)  (6-3, 4.35)

Athletics

CF Coco Crisp (S)
2B Jed Lowrie (S)
RF Josh Reddick (L)
DH Danny Valencia (R)
LF Khris Davis (R)
C Stephen Vogt (L)
SS Marcus Semien (R)
1B Yonder Alonso (L)
3B Ryon Healy (R)

OAK: Kendall Graveman (R)  (5-6, 4.37)

[MrKnuckleball]

Let's gooooo!

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

What a shithole of a ballpark.

[hostros7]

Altuve is highly skilled at all phases of the game except for keeping his belt buckled and running at the same time.


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[juliogotay]

Correa needs to sit for a couple of games.

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Lately, he has been awful at the plate.

[MusicMan]

Never have I been so glad for a west coast game to start. The next two weeks of "news coverage" will be excruciating.


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[MusicMan]

Fiers with a walk, a wild pitch, and 3 Ks, so he's following McHugh's game plan from yesterday.


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[MusicMan]

Valbuena triple!!


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[hostros7]

Valbuena triple!!


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A beautiful, deep drive to left center off a pitch on the outer half.

[MusicMan]

Rasmus pops to shallow CF on 3-0, but Valbuena somehow scores.


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[chuck]

Rasmus pops to shallow CF on 3-0, but Valbuena somehow scores.

The throw was not particularly crisp.

[austro]

Correa needs to sit for a couple of games.

Everybody in the league knows that he's going to watch the first pitch, so they just throw him meatballs, and he starts every AB 0-1. It's infuriating.

[NeilT]

Everybody in the league knows that he's going to watch the first pitch, so they just throw him meatballs, and he starts every AB 0-1. It's infuriating.

Sophomore. You gotta give him time.

[juliogotay]

Sophomore. You gotta give him time.

I expect a great junior year. I don't want to trade him just give him a couple of days off. He could probably use it.

[MrKnuckleball]

Valbuena has been something else lately.

[NeilT]

What an oddly fine catch. It's all Gomez's fault.

[austro]

Fiers is a lucky man. He owes Gomez a steak for that one.

[WVastro]

Tough one for Springer there...

I wonder how long it'll take for me to be "deprogrammed" on my initial reactions off the bat. I immediately was thinking single with runners at first and second nobody out. Then the shift....

[hostros7]

Tough one for Springer there...

I wonder how long it'll take for me to be "deprogrammed" on my initial reactions off the bat. I immediately was thinking single with runners at first and second nobody out. Then the shift....

The broadcast really, really needs to add a graphic that is similar to the baserunner graphic but shows defensive alignment. I'm surprised the espns and foxes of the world haven't instituted it

[WVastro]

The broadcast really, really needs to add a graphic that is similar to the baserunner graphic but shows defensive alignment. I'm surprised the espns and foxes of the world haven't instituted it

Yes!

[juliogotay]

The broadcast really, really needs to add a graphic that is similar to the baserunner graphic but shows defensive alignment. I'm surprised the espns and foxes of the world haven't instituted it

I don't know.  The screen is getting pretty junked up as it is. Thank goodness for big screens these days.

[Jacksonian]

I expect a great junior year. I don't want to trade him just give him a couple of days off. He could probably use it.

He just had 3 days off then went 3 for 10 in Seattle.  And now 4 for 12.

[BudGirl]

He just had 3 days off then went 3 for 10 in Seattle.

Does that include the double he just got?

[WVastro]

I don't know.  The screen is getting pretty junked up as it is. Thank goodness for big screens these days.

I think it could be pretty simple. Lower the box with the on base graphic and add four small red dots around the diamond.

[BudGirl]

He just had 3 days off then went 3 for 10 in Seattle.

Does that include the double he just got?

I think it could be pretty simple. Lower the box with the on base graphic and add four small red dots around the diamond.

or on-air talent could share that information.

[hostros7]

I think it could be pretty simple. Lower the box with the on base graphic and add four small red dots around the diamond.

Or just alternate it with the score in the top left periodically. It seems like there is plenty of real estate to work with.

[WVastro]

Does that include the double he just got?
or on-air talent could share that information.

I've given up on that.

[hostros7]

Alert base running by Correa gives the Astros a 2-1 lead on an infield single


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[chuck]

or on-air talent could share that information.

When then would they have time to talk about food?

[hostros7]

Gomez getting his hand checked out by the trainer after sliding head first into the first base bag.


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[chuck]

Gomez getting his hand checked out by the trainer after sliding head first into the first base bag.

His sliding head first would be no big deal. Unfortunately he slid hand first.

[Knoxbanedoodle]

A's broadcast just showed that Fiers has the 4th worst "shutdown inning" percentage among all AL pitchers, at 59%. The average is 70%.

[juliogotay]

A's broadcast just showed that Fiers has the 4th worst "shutdown inning" percentage among all AL pitchers, at 59%. The average is 70%.

What is a shutdown inning exactly?

[WVastro]

What is a shutdown inning exactly?

I'd imagine it's "shutting down" a team immediately after a run the previous half inning?

[chuck]

What is a shutdown inning exactly?

Not this.

[Jacksonian]

A's broadcast just showed that Fiers has the 4th worst "shutdown inning" percentage among all AL pitchers, at 59%. The average is 70%.

And again

[austro]

Fiers is one frustrating guy.

[WVastro]

After that pitch it could have easily been 4-2...

Fuck it... 4-2 anyway.

[BudGirl]

Fiers just really doesn't impress me.  He can't go 4 innings?  All of this with 2 outs.  ugh.

[drew corleone]

Fiers is maddening sometimes.

[Knoxbanedoodle]

I've always liked Fiers. I like the trebuchet action of his delivery and the way he wears his socks, but he abhors a lead.

[juliogotay]

there have been several times this year that Fiers could not get through five with a lead. It is amazing he has six wins somehow.Even though his ERA is very respectable.

[JimR]

How long does Fiers stay in the rotation? He cannot pitch with a lead.

[NeilT]

What is a shutdown inning exactly?

I'm not sure I can define it, but I know it when I see it. I'm pretty sure this was one.

[WVastro]

How long does Fiers stay in the rotation? He cannot pitch with a lead.

Maybe swap him and Feldman?

[juliogotay]

Maybe swap him and Feldman?

Maybe swap him and Rodgers or Musgrove.

[doyce7]

Maybe swap him and Feldman?

Or Feliz or devo or somebody from the farm.

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[jbm]

How long does Fiers stay in the rotation? He cannot pitch with a lead.

Hopefully not one game longer. He's a weakness.

[drew corleone]

What about Devenski?

[MusicMan]

I'm ready to give Feldman another shot at starting.


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[Knoxbanedoodle]

Feldman's found his level of competence in the pen. Leave him there. Feliz is deserving of another shot.

[juliogotay]

I'm ready to give Feldman another shot at starting.


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Fiers may have just sealed his fate in the dugout.

[BudGirl]

So Fiers gets mad in the dugout for getting pulled.  I'm done.  You couldn't get a third out.

[BudGirl]

I'm ready to give Feldman another shot at starting.


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I can see your point, but I really like knowing he is in the bullpen.  Especially if you keep Fiers in the rotation.

[Knoxbanedoodle]

Fiers livid with Hinch in the dugout. Somebody for a second was restraining him.

[WVastro]

I left the room during the pitching change... Any chance for a very quick summary on Fiers? I assume he was throwing shit? Or was it worse?

[WVastro]

Fiers livid with Hinch in the dugout. Somebody for a second was restraining him.

Fuck that. Adios.

[BudGirl]

this is going to get so ugly. 

[juliogotay]

Feliz hasn't  been sharp for a while now.

[Knoxbanedoodle]

I don't think he likes inheriting runners too much lately.

[Jacksonian]

Feliz hasn't been very good lately.

[MRaup]

George
Motherfuckin'
Springer.

[BudGirl]

Springer saw enough of Astros pitching, thankfully.

[WVastro]

Game isn't over.

Fuck Fiers.

[chuck]

Fiers hit something solid with his pitching hand. There were two bloody spots.

[MRaup]

In regards to your question though. Flush Feirs tomorrow. He's fucking awful.

[Knoxbanedoodle]

Castro blocked five pitches that inning with a runner on third.

[hostros7]

Fiers is too replaceable to endure any BS over in the clubhouse.


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[Tom Servo]

Fiers hit something solid with his pitching hand. There were two bloody spots.

Brilliant.

[MusicMan]

Fiers hit something solid with his pitching hand. There were two bloody spots.

Hoyt and Musgrove are eagerly awaiting updates to this...


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[Knoxbanedoodle]

Musgrove I'd love to see, though I believe he's been a little shaky of late.

[BudGirl]

I was hoping Graveman was going to be rusty after sitting on the bench so long.

[MRaup]

I was hoping Graveman was going to be rusty after sitting on the bench so long.

Graveman is fucking horrible, and the fact the Astros aren't hammering him like the A's hammered Fiers is fucking embarrassing.

[pots]

Brady and Hoyt could be solid replacements.  They'll probably want to move Fiers to the pen before deciding to release him...though if he just injured himself, problem solved

[WVastro]

Marwin!

Move on and keep playing.

[MusicMan]

Wait, why did they break up Fiers and Gomez?

TWO MEN ENTER, NO MEN LEAVE,


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[juliogotay]

Brady and Hoyt could be solid replacements.  They'll probably want to move Fiers to the pen before deciding to release him

Rodgers would be the guy called up if they wanted a starter. Hoyt if they wanted to move Feldman back to the rotation (or Devinski). 

[MRaup]

This just in: This game is nowhere near over! Still plenty of chances for the Astros to give up runs!

[pots]

Rodgers would be the guy called up if they wanted a starter. Hoyt if they wanted to move Feldman back to the rotation (or Devinski).

I wast thinking Feliz down as well.  Though the 40 man decisions are going to start to get tough.  That would be 2 more and Bregman is still to be added

[Knoxbanedoodle]

Gomez was starting something in the dugout with Fiers between innings. Says A's commentator: "My guess is, if you're in an Astros uniform, you listen to Altuve. You may not listen to Carlos Gomez."

Color guy notes that they were teammates in Milwaukee.

[chuck]

I'm watching the Oakland broadcast. I'm not kidding about the blood. Also, Gomez got into it with Fiers. One of the Oakland guys pointed out that Carlos is the farthest away on the field from the dugout and speculated that he must have 'good ears.'

[juliogotay]

HInch looks like he wishes Fiers would just shut up and go shower.

[MRaup]

HInch looks like he wishes Fiers would just shut up and go shower.

Reason number 10003431230302 I couldn't be a big league manager. I would've told him "Go take a shower. If you need someone to get you through the 5th minute, we can send Feliz in behind you."

[pots]

So you guys were serious about the Gomez - Fiers altercation.   Wow.  Not good

[chuck]

So you guys were serious about the Gomez - Fiers altercation.   Wow.  Not good

It looked to me like it was more or less over when Carlos decided to insert himself into things.

[pots]

It looked to me like it was more or less over when Carlos decided to insert himself into things.

So what was at the end of Fiers' fist?  Gomez or something else?

[chuck]

So what was at the end of Fiers' fist?  Gomez or something else?

The bench I would guess. Maybe a wall.

[WVastro]

It looked to me like it was more or less over when Carlos decided to insert himself into things.

Shit. I need to stop leaving the room during pitching changes and in between innings.... I'm missing all sorts of stuff. My bladder appreciates it though.

[MRaup]

So what was at the end of Fiers' fist?  Gomez or something else?

Not Gomez's helmet, I promise you that much.

[juliogotay]

The 8th Wonder of the World....how did Fiers pitch a no-hitter?

[austro]

Feldman's shut-down percentage goes up.

[MRaup]

Also...

Routine fly to right "Ball HAMMERED to right. Springer is under it... >waits 2 seconds for it to come down without Springer moving<. One out in the inning."

[doyce7]

I don't care who pitches 5 days from now, as long as it isn't fiers.  I'm fucking done with him

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[MRaup]

I don't care who pitches 5 days from now, as long as it isn't fiers.  I'm fucking done with him

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This. SO MUCH this. Please. Start Gattis. No more Fiers.

[BudGirl]

Graveman is fucking horrible, and the fact the Astros aren't hammering him like the A's hammered Fiers is fucking embarrassing.

So is Jared Weaver and that doesn't mean the Astros hit him either.

[Knoxbanedoodle]

The 8th Wonder of the World....how did Fiers pitch a no-hitter?

His fastball was a lot better last year. And also no-hitters...statistical anomalies...not that impressive...yadda yadda.

That game meant a lot to me, though, and I am grateful to him for it.

[doyce7]

This. SO MUCH this. Please. Start Gattis. No more Fiers.

That would be must see tv

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[doyce7]

What the fuck are you doing colby?

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[MRaup]

His fastball was a lot better last year. And also no-hitters...statistical anomalies...not that impressive...yadda yadda.

That game meant a lot to me, though, and I am grateful to him for it.

Please stop responding to this crap.

[WVastro]

Wtf was that Colby?

[BudGirl]

What the fuck are you doing colby?

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I thought he was trying to get rid of that damm drum.

[juliogotay]

I don't care who pitches 5 days from now, as long as it isn't fiers.  I'm fucking done with him

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I'll bet you right now that Fiers makes that start.

[austro]

I thought he was trying to get rid of that damm drum.

If anybody ever hits that drum, it will be the longest shot in baseball history.

[doyce7]

I'll bet you right now that Fiers makes that start.

Your probably right. Wouldn't be the first and won't be the last time they don't do what I want

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[Knoxbanedoodle]

Please stop responding to this crap.

Responding how? To what crap?

I'm not suggesting they run him out there every fifth day on the basis of a great start last year. Just saying: that was bad ass.

[WVastro]

If anyone happens to find a link to a video of the bullshit in the dugout I'd be very appreciative.

From the way it's been described here I'd be fine if that was his last start. As in he's the spittoon of the bullpen.

[MRaup]

Responding how? To what crap?

I'm not suggesting they run him out there every fifth day on the basis of a great start last year. Just saying: that was bad ass.

You're responding to
1.) a person that a lot of people have blocked.
2.) a post that is really, really dumb.

[MRaup]

Dear Alan Ashby,

You are the fucking worst. Your insane smear campaign against guys using the bare hand is fucking insane.

 Love,

People that watch baseball.

[Jacksonian]

If anyone happens to find a link to a video of the bullshit in the dugout I'd be very appreciative.

From the way it's been described here I'd be fine if that was his last start. As in he's the spittoon of the bullpen.

It has been tweeted.  McTag retweeted. That's how I saw it a minute ago.

[juliogotay]

You're responding to
1.) a person that a lot of people have blocked.
2.) a post that is really, really dumb.

that was my post. What was dumb about i?

[WVastro]

Dear Alan Ashby,

You are the fucking worst. Your insane smear campaign against guys using the bare hand is fucking insane.

 Love,

People that watch baseball.

Whenever he does this the only word I can muster up is "smarmy". I wonder if ashby ever picked up a semi fast wild pitch or an awkward bunt with his bare hand instead of using his glove? It's a "feel" thing and you'd think a player gets that.

[MRaup]

that was my post. What was dumb about i?

Oh god. A first in my internet personalityism. I misread this entirely. Your post was fine. Thought it was quoting someone else entirely.

I'll go ahead and blame the beer(s).

[BudGirl]

If Castro can get some hits, surely George can too.

[juliogotay]

Oh god. A first in my internet personalityism. I misread this entirely. Your post was fine. Thought it was quoting someone else entirely.

I'll go ahead and blame the beer(s).

Well, I knew you hadn't blocked me because you just responded.

[WVastro]

It has been tweeted.  McTag retweeted. That's how I saw it a minute ago.

Thanks I'll look. Everybody in my family tweets and I keep waiting for the fad to be over.... Might be time to admit defeat.

[Jacksonian]

If Castro can get some hits, surely George can too.

Springer has been as cold as anyone can be

[MRaup]

Well, I knew you hadn't blocked me because you just responded.

What? Who wrote this?

[MRaup]

Springer has been as cold as anyone can be

He's been as putrid as anyone else you want to call out.

[Jacksonian]

Thanks I'll look. Everybody in my family tweets and I keep waiting for the fad to be over.... Might be time to admit defeat.

Gomez was giving Fiers hell.

[juliogotay]

Add the A's to the list of teams Astros need to do better against if they wish to catch Arlington.

[chuck]

Oh god. A first in my internet personalityism. I misread this entirely. Your post was fine. Thought it was quoting someone else entirely.

I'll go ahead and blame the beer(s).

Now I'm curious to know who the hell you were talking about. Must be BudGirl.

[MRaup]

Now I'm curious to know who the hell you were talking about. Must be BudGirl.

She's definitely the worst.

THE WORST, JERRY!

[juliogotay]

Who are these guys?

[chuck]

She's definitely the worst.

THE WORST, JERRY!

She's a Cowboys fan. That's why I have her blocked. Julio lives in Dallas or near enough. That's why I have him blocked. You complain all the goddamn time. That's why I have you blocked.

I have to say, I can flat zip through the game zone threads anymore.

[Nate Colbert]

Rodgers would be the guy called up if they wanted a starter.

Rodgers scratched from his start tonight at Round Rock. They called it an injury but provided no details.

[juliogotay]

She's a Cowboys fan. That's why I have her blocked. Julio lives in Dallas or near enough. That's why I have him blocked. You complain all the goddamn time. That's why I have you blocked.

I have to say, I can flat zip through the game zone threads anymore.

Anyone living near Dallas that is an Astro fan should be held in high esteem.

[juliogotay]

Rodgers scratched from his start tonight at Round Rock. They called it an injury but provided no details.

Intriguing.

[doyce7]

Anyone living near Dallas that is an Astro fan should be held in high esteem.

It was pretty rough a couple of years ago. Fucking Ranger "fans"

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[chuck]

It was pretty rough a couple of years ago. Fucking Ranger "fans"

You too? Fuck.

[juliogotay]

It was pretty rough a couple of years ago. Fucking Ranger "fans"

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It is always tough. They are band wagoners of the first order. And they are now down by four to the Angels.

[doyce7]

You too? Fuck.

Fort worth since 2004

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[doyce7]

It is always tough. They are band wagoners of the first order. And they are now down by four to the Angels.

There was a lot of Astro fans here when I first moved here

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[WVastro]

Rodgers scratched from his start tonight at Round Rock. They called it an injury but provided no details.

Unless the Cardinals missed the "PRECOG" file of Grond Control during the hack I doubt there's much to read in to this. Unless... This was Fiers' last chance and that was communicated to him... Hence the blowup. Who knows? This team worrying about drama at the backass end of the rotation is the last thing it needs.

[WVastro]

Disappointing AB by Rasmus.

[MRaup]

Disappointing AB by Rasmus.

I don't understand how Gomez ever makes contact with how hard he pulls off of every pitch.

[WVastro]

I don't understand how Gomez ever makes contact with how hard he pulls off of every pitch.

He never does. That's what drives me nuts. When he cuts it down he can actually make contact.

[austro]

Everybody else in the modern US workplace has to watch the cringeworthy training videos about unwanted attention. How could Ashby have missed those?

[austro]

He never does. That's what drives me nuts. When he cuts it down he can actually make contact.

Yesterday's salami was probably the worst thing that could have happened for him.

[MRaup]

Everybody else in the modern US workplace has to watch the cringeworthy training videos about unwanted attention. How could Ashby have missed those?

That was creepy AF.

[WVastro]

Good GOD! Wtf ashby?!?! That is absurd sexual harassment... What a creep. That was so uncomfortable.

[juliogotay]

When they beat the shift it looks like one of your guys just  went out to take a leak or something.

[juliogotay]

Good GOD! Wtf ashby?!?! That is absurd sexual harassment... What a creep. That was so uncomfortable.

I guess his wife doesn't watch the broadcast. She's probably sick of him too.

[BudGirl]

Feldman's done a pretty good job again.  Kudos to him.

[WVastro]

Feldman for Pr..err... 5th starter.

[MRaup]

This team takes SO MANY fat pitches.

So fucking frustrating.

[The Spleen]

How did we waste 8 pages on this pail of garbage can soup?

[WVastro]

How did we waste 8 pages on this pail of garbage can soup?

The void from yesterday?

[austro]

How did we waste 8 pages on this pail of garbage can soup?

This was a train-wreck, but it was still 50x better than the Republican convention.

[The Spleen]

This was a train-wreck, but it was still 50x better than the Republican convention.

PUPPET SHOW AND RNC

[austro]

Marwin needs to get on base and bring Altuve up. That would be interesting.

[austro]

Fuck. I really wanted to see how Madson would fare against Altuve.

[MRaup]

Graveman beat the Astros AGAIN.

That guy is fucking trash. FUCKING TRASH.

[chuck]

Ash perving on Julia or whoever happened in the bottom of the 8th? I want to go back and watch it.

[WVastro]

Enjoy that L Fiers. It might be your last decision as a starter.

Managerial confrontations drive me nuts when the player is obviously performing like shit. We all know people in our various professional lives that blame first and take responsibility second (or never). Just because they have a fucking baseball card doesn't excuse shitty behavior. Passion is one thing.. Destroy a cooler with a baseball bat? Fine. Punch a wall and end your season? Way to go dumbass! Confront a manager after you shit the bed? Fuck you, here's a bus ticket.

[WVastro]

Ash perving on Julia or whoever happened in the bottom of the 8th? I want to go back and watch it.

No you don't. It was way over the top. It wasn't just his comments on her eyes but how he kept asking for her to "bring him food" and "someday you will". I'm done with ashby. Making a phone call tomorrow.

[The Spleen]

Graveman beat the Astros AGAIN.

That guy is fucking trash. FUCKING TRASH.

Throwing pus is the way to beat these guys. I'm sure that's been pretty well scouted by now.
There seem to be problems across the organization in preparing hitters to deal with off speed stuff. It's getting old watching supposed hot prospects come up and, when seeing major league breaking balls, react like Stone Age savages facing repeating rifles (see also; Reed, AJ).

It just reminds us what a talent Correa is, being the one guy who broke that pattern.

[BudGirl]

So Fiers has a moment in the dugout and Melania Trump plagiarizes Michelle Obama.  Just another Monday night in America.

[chuck]

So Fiers has a moment in the dugout and Melania Trump plagiarizes Michelle Obama.  Just another Monday night in America.

I just saw what this was all about. Either the Trump campaign hired Jayson Blair as their head speechwriter or this really is nothing more than a giant branding exercise and he has no intention of winning whatsoever and will continue to sabotage his own campaign little by little until it implodes completely.

My main issue in trying to gauge this is that I don't have a very good handle on how much of his act is act versus true crazy.

[juliogotay]

I just saw what this was all about. Either the Trump campaign hired Jayson Blair as their head speechwriter or this really is nothing more than a giant branding exercise and he has no intention of winning whatsoever and will continue to sabotage his own campaign little by little until it implodes completely.

My main issue in trying to gauge this is that I don't have a very good handle on how much of his act is act versus true crazy.

Unless you are selling novelty items, losing isn't all that good for Branding.

[JimR]

was not watching, mercifully. are you folks telling me Fiers got in Hinch's face for taking him out?

[MusicMan]

was not watching, mercifully. are you folks telling me Fiers got in Hinch's face for taking him out?

Very, very much so.


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[JimR]

Very, very much so.


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I hope there are repercussions. the man cannot protect a lead.

a shutdown inning, btw, is putting up a zero after your team scores. I am sure he does not know that experience.

[MrKnuckleball]

Gotta win the next two games.

[JimR]

All the post game comments were appropriate. Guess it blew over as one of those things.

[pots]

Didn't help the cause last night. Couldn't buy a strike to save my life. I owe Springer breakfast, lunch and dinner. Let's get a W tonight.

[Tom Servo]

Ash perving on Julia or whoever happened in the bottom of the 8th? I want to go back and watch it.

Repulsive.