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oswalt and the reds may be a cabrera but dammit i want to know
« on: August 28, 2008, 10:39:21 am »
is there any other pitcher out there with similair numbers as oswalt does with the .reds
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Re: oswalt and the reds may be a cabrera but dammit i want to know
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2008, 10:41:58 am »
Quote from: Fredia on August 28, 2008, 10:39:21 am
is there any other pitcher out there with similair numbers as oswalt does with the .reds

I am sure that Smoltz' record against the stros might be comparable, though I am just pulling that from my ass.
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Re: oswalt and the reds may be a cabrera but dammit i want to know
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2008, 10:46:11 am »
Was discussed by JD and Brownie last night.  No pitcher has ever had this 22-1 record before, though one did have a 33-3 against a team.
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Re: oswalt and the reds may be a cabrera but dammit i want to know
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2008, 10:52:15 am »
According to BP the next best record in the last 50 years (min. 20 starts) is Camilo Pascual against the Rangers at 13-1.  After that it's Peavy against the Dodgers at 12-1.
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Re: oswalt and the reds may be a cabrera but dammit i want to know
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2008, 11:12:08 am »
Mark Portugal was death for the Giants for a long period of time with the Astros.
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Re: oswalt and the reds may be a cabrera but dammit i want to know
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2008, 11:32:27 am »
Quote from: Andyzipp on August 28, 2008, 11:12:08 am
Mark Portugal was death for the Giants for a long period of time with the Astros.

11-3 against them with Houston, if I'm reading ESPN's splits right..
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Re: oswalt and the reds may be a cabrera but dammit i want to know
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2008, 01:12:38 pm »
Quote from: mrpink on August 28, 2008, 10:52:15 am
According to BP the next best record in the last 50 years (min. 20 starts) is Camilo Pascual against the Rangers at 13-1.  After that it's Peavy against the Dodgers at 12-1.

That must be vs. the Senators.
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Re: oswalt and the reds may be a cabrera but dammit i want to know
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2008, 01:14:53 pm »
Quote from: Lurch on August 28, 2008, 10:46:11 am
Was discussed by JD and Brownie last night.  No pitcher has ever had this 22-1 record before, though one did have a 33-3 against a team.

Warning: WikiCrapia reference coming.

Roy O's .957 winning % (22-1) against the Reds is by far the highest.
Carl Mays is second, with a .921 winning % (35-3) against the Philadelphia Athletics.

"Oswalt is the first pitcher ever to begin his career by going 22-1 against another team. Three other pitchers began 20-1, but each then lost his 22nd decision: Charley Radbourn against the Phillies, and Larry Jackson and Juan Marichal both against the Mets."
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Re: oswalt and the reds may be a cabrera but dammit i want to know
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2008, 02:09:25 pm »
Quote from: Ron Brand on August 28, 2008, 01:12:38 pm
That must be vs. the Senators.

You're right.  His last pitched in '71.
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Re: oswalt and the reds may be a cabrera but dammit i want to know
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2008, 02:22:28 pm »
Quote from: mrpink on August 28, 2008, 02:09:25 pm
You're right.  His last pitched in '71.

The records stay with the franchise, so the Senators/Rangers would still be correct, technically speaking.
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Re: oswalt and the reds may be a cabrera but dammit i want to know
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2008, 03:37:29 pm »
Quote from: mihoba on August 28, 2008, 02:22:28 pm
The records stay with the franchise, so the Senators/Rangers would still be correct, technically speaking.
As opposed to the Senators/Twins, for whom Pasqual toiled.
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Re: oswalt and the reds may be a cabrera but dammit i want to know
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2008, 03:44:04 pm »
Quote from: VirtualBob on August 28, 2008, 03:37:29 pm
As opposed to the Senators/Twins, for whom Pasqual toiled.

Heh, oops. I should have checked.

ETA: He actually played for both Senator franchises.
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Re: oswalt and the reds may be a cabrera but dammit i want to know
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2008, 04:46:47 pm »
Quote from: ValpoCory on August 28, 2008, 01:14:53 pm
Warning: WikiCrapia reference coming.

Roy O's .957 winning % (22-1) against the Reds is by far the highest.
Carl Mays is second, with a .921 winning % (35-3) against the Philadelphia Athletics.

"Oswalt is the first pitcher ever to begin his career by going 22-1 against another team. Three other pitchers began 20-1, but each then lost his 22nd decision: Charley Radbourn against the Phillies, and Larry Jackson and Juan Marichal both against the Mets."




IIRC Larry Jackson had a heck of a record against the Colt .45's/Astros, too.
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