Friars-Pebbles tiebreaker

[MusicMan]

Anyone who votes Matt Holliday for MVP should submit to a mental health care professional.

Just an absolutely excrable misplay of a routine flyball in the 8th to allow the tying run.

[ValpoCory]

Anyone who votes Matt Holliday for MVP should submit to a mental health care professional.

Just an absolutely excrable misplay of a routine flyball in the 8th to allow the tying run.

Agreed.  On the other hand, Tulowitzness has a case against Braun for ROY.

This has been a fun game to watch.

[Gizzmonic]

I was just about to post that myself.

I know it's the "rarefied Coors air," but the man plays 81 games a year here.  No excuse for getting caught with his pants down, especially with the season on the line.

Anyone who votes Matt Holliday for MVP should submit to a mental health care professional.

Just an absolutely excrable misplay of a routine flyball in the 8th to allow the tying run.

[MusicMan]

Agreed.  On the other hand, Tulowitzness has a case against Braun for ROY.

This has been a fun game to watch.

If BP's defensive metrics (or something like, I don't know, watching them play), Braun's defense costs him about 60 runs compared to Tulowitzki.

Braun is the glamorous choice, and is a fantastic hitter.  Tulo is the better player.

[MusicMan]

See: that play, right there.

[ValpoCory]

Looking at the crowd and how nicely dressed and good looking they are, I can't help but think that this is the first Rockies game of the year for a lot of these folks.

[ValpoCory]

A great unintentional intentional walk to Hawpe.

You get Manny Corpas out of the game after only 6 pitches.  What the fuck was Clint Hurdle thinking not double switching.

[Gizzmonic]

Sad but true.

At least they had the decency to leave their Yankees caps at home. 

Looking at the crowd and how nicely dressed and good looking they are, I can't help but think that this is the first Rockies game of the year for a lot of these folks.

[billymaz]

Anyone who votes Matt Holliday for MVP should submit to a mental health care professional.

Just an absolutely excrable misplay of a routine flyball in the 8th to allow the tying run.

He misjudges a fly ball and that disqualifies him? He has three errors all year...

[pravata]

Sad but true.

At least they had the decency to leave their Yankees caps at home. 

Game started at 5:30 their time, probably came right from work.  But their attendance has been in the lower 3rd this season.

[ValpoCory]

Sad but true.

At least they had the decency to leave their Yankees caps at home. 

This reminds me of the Golden State Warriors playoff games this year.  Where the hell did all those celebrity fans come ftom?

[pravata]

He misjudges a fly ball and that disqualifies him? He has three errors all year...

And none charged for this game either.  So that means little.

[ValpoCory]

He misjudges a fly ball and that disqualifies him? He has three errors all year...

That play was scored a double.  It's not all about errors.  Craig Biggio played 216 games in CF in 2003 and 2004 ... 1 error.

[Gizzmonic]

Errors aren't a terribly useful way to measure a left fielder's performance.  Take it from the best dandelion-picker in Houston area little league history. I don't think I made 3 errors either.

He misjudges a fly ball and that disqualifies him? He has three errors all year...

[dirty steve]

Looking at the crowd and how nicely dressed and good looking they are, I can't help but think that this is the first Rockies game of the year for a lot of these folks.

alot of faux enthusiasm it seems like.

[ValpoCory]

Ensberg on deck in the 11th.

But the double play ends the threat. 

[billymaz]

Errors aren't a terribly useful way to measure a left fielder's performance.  Take it from the best dandelion-picker in Houston area little league history. I don't think I made 3 errors either.

Be that as it may, one misplay does not take away from the season he's had. Let's see what he does this inning...

[ValpoCory]

Ensberg to lead it off in the 12th.  I predict a walk.

[Craig]

Ensberg to lead it off in the 12th.  I predict a walk.

Good call.

That color makes Ensberg's ass look bigger.

[cougar]

Ensberg to lead it off in the 12th.  I predict a walk.

Cookie and gold star.

All the pitcher had to do was throw it down the middle.  I don't know what he was thinking.

Blum sac's him over.  It's "Ex-Astros batting order night" for the Tucks.

Edit:  When I first glanced at the thread title, I thought it said "Fruity Pebbles tiebreaker".  That was double-take worthy.

[remy]

If this game makes it to the 18th, Pads are going to start wishing they'd grabbed Burke from us too.

[ValpoCory]

If this game makes it to the 18th, Pads are going to start wishing they'd grabbed Burke from us too.

How long until Maddux enters the game?

[ValpoCory]

Blum sac's him over.  It's "Ex-Astros batting order night" for the Tucks.

Lane in center field.  This game is much better strategy-wise with the expanded September rosters still in play.  We haven't seen many relief pitchers bat yet if any.

Edit: Yep, no relief pitchers have batted yet.

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/gamecenter/boxscore/MLB_20071001_SD@COL

[ValpoCory]

Good thing Manny Corpas was used for 6 pitches tonight, requiring Jorge Julio to enter 1 or 2 innings earlier than he should have had to been used.

[Gizzmonic]

Good thing Manny Corpas was used for 6 pitches tonight, requiring Jorge Julio to enter 1 or 2 innings earlier than he should have had to been used.

Looks like the Rox done screwed the pooch...but it's not over yet.

Bravo to Jason Lane and Moberg, I'm glad they got to play tonight.

[remy]

Wohoo!!  Hoffman imploding... Game tied at 8... winning run at 3rd with 0 outs!

[Craig]

Holy shit, what a great game.

[astrojo]

Holliday redeemed...also that hit and RBI gives him batting title and NL RBI.

However, his run scored is questionable...looks like he missed the plate with barrett's foot blocking him.

[Navin R Johnson]

Nice call blue.   Instant Replay could have fixed that call.

[remy]

Nice call blue.   Instant Replay could have fixed that call.

It was Barrett.  Fuck 'em in the ear.

[Nate in IA]

It was Barrett.  Fuck 'em in the ear.

Wow, what a game.    Holliday did redeem himself.  Go get the Phillies boys...

[Limey]

He misjudges a fly ball and that disqualifies him? He has three errors all year...

The scorer cannot give an error to an outfielder unless he touches the ball.  So if you run around in circles and collapse in a heap and a soft-pop lands 2" from your glove...no error.

[Limey]

It was Barrett.  Fuck 'em in the ear.

Barrett's not allowed to block the plate unless he has the ball, right?  He never had the ball.

Don't know what that means to the ruling on the play, but Holliday should've gone in feet first and made the question moot.  It also would've saved his noggin!

[ybbodeus]

His nose, mouth and chin did a nice little hop off the dirt, didn't they?

[DVauthrin]

Hoffman got lit up like a Christmas tree.    I think Holliday didn't touch home plate, but it wasn't an easy call for blue back there either.

[Limey]

Hoffman got lit up like a Christmas tree.    I think Holliday didn't touch home plate, but it wasn't an easy call for blue back there either.

That's because he stood where Barret would be between him and the tag.

[DVauthrin]

That's because he stood where Barret would be between him and the tag.

Good point.   I just enjoyed watching the rockies torch hoffman.   Plus Michael Barrett being on the short end of the stick sits right with me.   

As far as NL MVP goes, my vote(which is meaningless) goes to Jimmy Rollins, though Holliday has a legitmate case as well.  Just no prince fielder please.

[Craig]

His nose, mouth and chin did a nice little hop off the dirt, didn't they?

That was a great face-plant. He looked pretty wobbly afterward.

[mihoba]

The scorer cannot give an error to an outfielder unless he touches the ball.  So if you run around in circles and collapse in a heap and a soft-pop lands 2" from your glove...no error.

Holliday did touch the ball, an E all the way. So was the grounder to short that Tulo muffed. Homecookin' scorekeeper.

[T. J.]

Barrett's not allowed to block the plate unless he has the ball, right?  He never had the ball.

Don't know what that means to the ruling on the play, but Holliday should've gone in feet first and made the question moot.  It also would've saved his noggin!

Exactly what I thought.  That's a great way to get spiked in the face. 

[EasTexAstro]

That color makes Ensberg's ass look bigger.

Damn. I thought that last night.

I had forgotten just how much I hated watching an Ensberg at bat.

BTW, in the 11th, they helped define a "clutch" hit for me. That elusive, hard to pin down meaning of the word.

The announcers said the Pads needed to get the leadoff runner on so the next guy could move him into scoring position so the next batter could get a "clutch" hit to score him.

SO...
leading off a critical make-or-break tie game in extra innings with a hit -- not clutch.
getting a hit to move said runner over to scoring position in this tense situation -- not clutch.
It can only be the one the drives in the run. All the work that went into setting up the play is just fluff.

[ValpoCory]

Damn. I thought that last night.

I had forgotten just how much I hated watching an Ensberg at bat.

BTW, in the 11th, they helped define a "clutch" hit for me. That elusive, hard to pin down meaning of the word.

The announcers said the Pads needed to get the leadoff runner on so the next guy could move him into scoring position so the next batter could get a "clutch" hit to score him.

SO...
leading off a critical make-or-break tie game in extra innings with a hit -- not clutch.
getting a hit to move said runner over to scoring position in this tense situation -- not clutch.
It can only be the one the drives in the run. All the work that went into setting up the play is just fluff.

Yep.  Everyone remembers Luis Gonzalez.  Tony Womack is disappointingly remembered to a lesser extent, and Mark Grace and Damian Miller ... they batted in the 9th?

But I do understand where he was coming from.  Jason Lane and Brad Ausmus were clutch in the 9th of Game 4 of the '05 World Series, but that isn't remembered as much as the RBI hits done by the Astros in that run.

[Limey]

Holliday did touch the ball, an E all the way. So was the grounder to short that Tulo muffed. Homecookin' scorekeeper.

Ahhh.  Didn't see the play, but from the way people described it, it sounded like he completely missed it.  I stand corrected.

FWIW, the scorer ruled a hit on at least one more solid gold error (grounder the the SS).

[Limey]

Good point.   I just enjoyed watching the rockies torch hoffman.   Plus Michael Barrett being on the short end of the stick sits right with me.

Hard to root for a team, despite all the ex-Astros, that sports Milton Bradley and Michael Barrett.  Also, 1998 still smarts.

[ValpoCory]

Ahhh.  Didn't see the play, but from the way people described it, it sounded like he completely missed it.  I stand corrected.

FWIW, the scorer ruled a hit on at least one more solid gold error (grounder the the SS).

I thought the scorer correctly scored it a double.  I felt it was misplayed, for sure, but watching it live I didn't think it touched his glove.  It might have grazed it.

[ybbodeus]

Also, 1998 still smarts.

Amen, but hell, I have to balance that against my Rockie (and Coors beer) hatred, given that if you go back to '93 and all those freakish late inning losses to the Rockies that "helped" Drayton make his decision on my man Art Howe.

[Bench]

Anyone who votes Matt Holliday for MVP should submit to a mental health care professional.

Just an absolutely excrable misplay of a routine flyball in the 8th to allow the tying run.

Also, he broke back to second base in the first inning on a clear bloop single to left center that he should have scored on. He ended up being stranded at third. The guy sure can hit, but didn't really acquit himself very well in the other aspects of the game last night.

[MusicMan]

I can't believe I feel asleep after Hairston's HR.

[astrojo]

Amen, but hell, I have to balance that against my Rockie (and Coors beer) hatred, given that if you go back to '93 and all those freakish late inning losses to the Rockies that "helped" Drayton make his decision on my man Art Howe.

How can you not be happy for Todd Helton?

[Limey]

How can you not be happy for Todd Helton?

...because while he's a solid hitter and (as far as I know) a solid citizen, he robbed Bagwell of some accolades because he had the advantage of hitting in a vacuum.

[Nate in IA]

...because while he's a solid hitter and (as far as I know) a solid citizen, he robbed Bagwell of some accolades because he had the advantage of hitting in a vacuum.

That said, I'm still rooting for the Rockies above all the other teams in the playoffs.   I just moved from Colorado this summer (for a woman of course) and had spent the last five or six (I can't remember) years as part of a group that had season tickets to the Rockies.   They are a fun team to watch and Coors Field is one of the best ballparks in which to watch a game.   I'll miss that ballpark.  Now I live in Cubs/Cardinals territory yet too far from either one of those ballparks to get there for a night game.  Go Rockies!

[Limey]

That said, I'm still rooting for the Rockies above all the other teams in the playoffs.   I just moved from Colorado this summer (for a woman of course) and had spent the last five or six (I can't remember) years as part of a group that had season tickets to the Rockies.   They are a fun team to watch and Coors Field is one of the best ballparks in which to watch a game.   I'll miss that ballpark.  Now I live in Cubs/Cardinals territory yet too far from either one of those ballparks to get there for a night game.  Go Rockies!

In order of preference, NL Champ (and therefore WS Champ):  Rocks, Snakes, Phils, Cubs*.

* I actually don't want the Cubs to win the WS under any circumstances, so if they get there I'm rooting for the AL.  Even if it's the Yanks.

[Nate in IA]

In order of preference, NL Champ (and therefore WS Champ):  Rocks, Snakes, Phils, Cubs*.

* I actually don't want the Cubs to win the WS under any circumstances, so if they get there I'm rooting for the AL.  Even if it's the Yanks.

Ditto.  Well said.

[MusicMan]

In order of preference, NL Champ (and therefore WS Champ):  Rocks, Snakes, Phils, Cubs*.

* I actually don't want the Cubs to win the WS under any circumstances, so if they get there I'm rooting for the AL.  Even if it's the Yanks.

One exception:

If it's Sawwwks vs. Cubs, I might not watch.  For the first time I can remember.

[Taras Bulba]

I would only root for the Cubs or Yankees if they were playing North Korea.  Maybe.

[Limey]

I would only root for the Cubs or Yankees if they were playing North Korea.  Maybe.

If the Cubs do play the Yanks, I may be rooting for North Korea...if you know what I mean.

[MusicMan]

Then I would hope it was a home game for NK.

[Navin R Johnson]

I am pulling for the Phils or DBacks.  Both have local kids, Phils; Michael Bourn Nimitz HS & UofH.  DBacks; Chris Sndyer Spring Woods HS & UofH, Chris Young Bellaire HS.   

[Mr. Happy]

I am pulling for the Phils or DBacks.  Both have local kids, Phils; Michael Bourn Nimitz HS & UofH.  DBacks; Chris Sndyer Spring Woods HS & UofH, Chris Young Bellaire HS.   

I am just pulling for the NL.

[Limey]

I am just pulling for the NL.

Cubs 'n' all?

[Navin R Johnson]

I am just pulling for the NL.

I am too, (minus the cubs), but my preference in the NL is the Phils or Snakes.

[Mr. Happy]

Cubs 'n' all?

Yeppers. I detest and despise the AL.

[Ty in Tampa]

I'm going with the Phillies for my fiancée, who unfortunately hails from Philadelphia.

Fuck the Cubs. I'll root for anyone but, including the umps to make bad calls, kids to steal catchable flies and fouls, and Barrett to make a clubhouse pep talk visit.

[JimR]

i'm a Phillies fan now.

[ybbodeus]

If the Cubs make it to the NLCS, I'm praying that Bartman has a clone with REALLY good third base line seats.

[Limey]

If the Cubs make it to the NLCS, I'm praying that Bartman has a clone with REALLY good third base line seats.

Just as long as he takes his buddy, too.

[Duman]

i'm a Phillies fan now.

Pulling for a Phillies v. Indians.  Only because that was my pick at the first of the year and right now my wife and I are tied with our post season picks.  She has the Yanks still alive.  Yanks must lose! I repeat the Yanks must lose!

[ybbodeus]

Just as long as he takes his buddy, too.

...and his goat.