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Talk Zone / Re: "We will win the World Series in 2008" - Ryan Dempster, Chicago Cubs
« on: February 13, 2008, 08:14:40 pm »
Didnt that idiot Zambrano say the same thing last year?
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newsflash andy, only about 3-4 teams get to play with monopoly money like the yankees, it doesn't mean they aren't committed to winning.
Does Dick Pole still have his position with the Reds?
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No Richard, you can't - but not for the reasons you seem to imply.
i miss mr obvious
Dear Bud:
no one, no matter what color, has a right to be hired. what everyone should have, no matter what color, is an equal opportunity to be hired based upon merit, talent and skills.
To follow up on one of the comments here. In New York, the Post, Daily News, Newsday, NY Times, NY Sun all cover the Yankees and Mets. They are also covered by the Bergen Record, the Newark Star Ledger and probably a host of other NJ papers. And I am sure that they are covered by some Connecticut papers as well.
It ws weird too, because the Toronto Sun publishing group sold the post in 1987 to Media News Group. But they stopped being able to bring in advertisers.
The Hobby Family shut down the Post in the last 80s/early 90s, but not before being the first fish wrap in town to give us full color newsprint that had very bad registration and tended to make the pictures look like really bad ghost hunter photos.
Ceased publication on 4/18/1995. Assets bought by the Hearst Corporation.
The Hobby Family sold the paper in 1983 to the owners of the Toronto Sun. The editorial board was considered to be more liberal than they should be...led to the downfall 12 years later.
I could have read it in here (in fact, I'm sure I did), but I think someone pointed out that Houston is the only top 10 metro area in America with one newspaper.
Steve Phillips also predicts the Astros to finish 5th in the division.
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Rosenthal spews this reflexive bilge "If owner Drayton McLane continues to hold the line on his budget..." If this is his angle, I suggest he directs his attention to the Cardinals.
The same owner who had the third highest payroll last season behind the Yankees and Red Sox? That owner? Gosh, he makes it sound like McLane is the owner of the Pirates!
The same owner who moved quickly to sign Oswalt during the middle of the 06 season, the same owner who signed Carlos Lee to the largest contract in Astros history, the same who signed Roger Clemens to the highest (pro rated) contract ever paid to a pitcher in the history of baseball, the same owner who paid the 2nd highest average salary per player in 06, that owner?
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I never understood how his herky jerky windup wasn't a balk, but I was always mesmerized watching him pitch. He looked so angry.
Any video of this? I tried YouTube, but nothing came up on him. Is this the reliever with the evil eye, head jerk, stare down that Biggio mocked at the plate a couple of years ago?
That was Mike Fetters.
Weber more resembles a seizure that ends up with him throwing the ball.
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Isn't Ron Villone still available? He's a left hander.
Available? Theoretically. He's 37, his agent is Scott Boras, and he wants a 2 year deal. The Link
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"Mellencamp?s inspirational anthem, ?Our Country,? has become synonymous with football, just as his corporate sponsor, Chevrolet, is synonymous with American values.
?The song ?Our Country? is like a modern version of ?America the Beautiful,? but better, because ?America the Beautiful? didn?t sell Chevys,? said Gary Pascoe, executive creative director of Campbell-Ewald, the agency that created the ads. ?We really wanted to illustrate the parallel between the history of our great nation and the history of Chevrolet vehicles. Remember 9/11? We do. Remember Katrina? We were there. Chevy trucks helped carry aid and shit to the black people. And of course, John Mellencamp is the perfect spokesman for us, because he embodies the same values as Chevrolet, and because his career shit the bed about ten years ago. ?
Pascoe said the song resonates loudly with football fans because football fans are patriotic and patriotic people enjoy trucks.
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No no....what you are all forgetting is that God led Alice to New York in the same fashion he led Moses to the land of milk and honey (if I am remembering my Old Testament correctly). Only Alice will be flying private while the Jewish people wandered for 40 years.
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Can Sexson play 3rd? CF?
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Andy keeps making it worse every time he talks.
Just read pravata's NYCU and let me see if I get this straight: 3 days ago, his arm hurt so bad, he wasn't sure if he could play next season, now he's ready to go 2 seasons because he's making $16m per. It's a fucking miracle.
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its really ashamed about alief.. i lived there with my family when it still was not annexed and was like a small town with its own post office.. one time when we where in houston to see the stros.. we went back by our old home..(when we lived there it was a middle class type decent neighborhood) the house was now painted something close to a shade of pink.. it was hard to see...
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I wish I could go back to my home state, but I am also afraid of what I might find in Houston. I grew up in Sharpstown, went to Welch Middle School and then moved to Alief and went to Elsik. I have heard there is a freeway along Elsik and Hastings now and my best friend, a Houston cop, says I dont even want to see my old neighborhoods. Apparently, they have become New Orleans south.
The Westpark Tollway runs parallel to Alief-Clodine behind the stadium and Amity Park. It's not necessarily dangerous driving through Alief now, but many of the apartment complexes in the area are overrun with gangs. Some of the best Chinese and Vietnamese food in town can be found along Bellaire and Beechnut.
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You know what, I used to spend a great part of my life defending Texas when I heard or read stupid ignorant shit like this. In the last few years, I've come to realize that, honestly, it's fine.
If you don't wanna be in Texas...don't COME to Texas. We got enough people here already that just bitch and complain about how "hot it is" or how "humid it is" or how it's not like where ever they came from. Don't like it? Don't move here. Already here and don't like it? Go home. We like it. A lot. And we don't need some pantywaist, sallypants, cheese-eating, snowshoveling, subway-riding, prozac-popping lunatic validating Texas for us. Stay in NY. Stay in LA. Please. And keep on telling your fucking friends what a terrible place it is here, so they will leave more of Texas for us.
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Correction, the Astros are not desparate.
Eggzactly. Fans are desperate because they're the jack-in-the-box-drive-through-order-your-food-call-it-gourmet types. They want it NOW! Well, now is nice and all, but it is not the end all, be all. You don't make a stupid trade out of desperation to satisfy the fans. That is the last thing you do.
You keep an eye towards what you can do to get a team to spring training. The during and after the spring training, you evaluate what you have and make a team of 25 men to take to the majors from that lot. Then you evaluate that 25 during the first two months of the season. By Memorial Day, you start to make decisions where you need to adjust. You prepare for the trading deadline and make deals if you have to. Also, you may have a free agent ready to sign, namely Roger Clemens. Then you go to battle for the rest of the season to try and make the playoffs, adjusting all the way using your minor leagues.
To say you're desperate *NOW* in December is to say you have no confidence *NOW* in what you can take to spring training. If that is the case, then they're going to push for a trade and move young guys they have no confidence in. If they are not desperate, they will work deals to a certain level and leave them ready for future consideration. If you want to see what your young guys look like now that they have to take up the slack, then you wait to see what they will look like during the spring. Adjust accordingly.
Fans just think that the offseason is the *ONLY* time a GM sets up the team. That is how narrow the view is from a fans perspective.
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It's funny, but people think a salary cap is needed to protect the owners from greedy players, when it's really needed to protect the owners from their own stupidity. In this case, one stupid apple is costing the bunch a fortune. It will never end until there's an IQ test required for ownership/management.
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Excellent, I was hoping for a family of low integrity and the ability to hose entire cities while making others the bad guy. I wanted brothers, but father/son will have to do.
You're hired.
I want you to teach me the 27 MPH slider.
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I say work with what we got...take our chances in '06...and ultimately look to '07 as the year we go for it all again.
Did I miss something? Didn't mlb already play the '06 season?
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I love that now Pettitte is saying that the Astros wouldn't "push" for him:
"It shocked me that [the Astros] would not continue to go up, when the Yankees continued to push and push and pursue and they [the Astros] really didn't do much," he said. "It was a full-court press by the Yankees. I've talked to the guys, and obviously they wanted me to come back up there."
So, basically, he wanted a Yankmes-Astros bidding war. Then, when he didn't get it, he claims the Astros sisn't want him and were ready to move on without him (the Garland deal that wasn't) and goes off to the Yanks in a huff. Sounds a lot like why he left the Yankers in the first place. I guess that's his go-to line.
Pettitte seems perversely insecure with his feckless and fretfull comments regarding the Astros lack of interest in getting into a stupid, wreckless, and irresponsible bidding war. I didn't ever think he was a smart guy but now he seems pretty much like a borderline imbecile, when you compound that with an absence of integrity and a full helping of selfishness, you get a person who is incapable of overriding the judgement of his handlers. His wife must need a break from that kind of behavior and probably offered no discouragement to him for moving on. Who would blame her if she said, "yeah, Andy, why don't you finish your career in NYC."
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Come to think of it, Berkman plus Lee would equal 500+ pounds of sluggardly first baseman/corner OF types.
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If he remains healthy, that deal will look like a bargain.
That's a big fucking "if".
The Dodgers probably had a clause in their contract with their health insurer allowing them to re-sign Nomar only if Drew walked.
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And a free weekend of Lance Berkman instructed horticultural study.
Berkman's testimonials for the Methodist Weight Loss Center may be more appropriate.
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The Lee bidding starts with 5 @ 60. Any bets on where between this and Soriano's price wins (or loses depending on POV)
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At least six at $15, I'd think.
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So how stupid does the Nats GM look now? He could have traded this tird at the deadline and got something for him. Now he has nothing. The Nats thought they could sign Soriano?
I believe he gets a 1st round pick next season and maybe another lower round pick as well.
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ETA: Anyone who signs Carlos Lee for 7 or 8 years is a fucking moron and should be fired and banned from the sport immediately.
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So.........why hasn't Lee signed with the LiteRanch Astros yet?
I'm not blaming the Astros brass, mind you; I'm thinking Lee doesn't really care so much about salad dressing.
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Cafardo reminds me of some dude sitting behind his computer wearing a Nomar jersy and a Sox hat on backwards tilted to the right.
If the BoSox want to pay Clemens $20+mm for 60 innings of work, then why stop them?
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Man who skipped Lidle flight, dies in a plane crash. Is that ironic? sad? weird? all of the above?
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Hypothetically, I wonder if Babe Ruth is available via time machine, and whether there is an elixir that will bring Walter Johnson back to life. I think there would be a lot of potential for the 2007 Astros with Ruth in the outfield and Johnson in the rotation.
I'd like to use the time machine to go into the future and bring back the stars who are yet to be. Just think--getting the catcher Zarathustra Perkins from the year 2011, or the pitcher Trajan Holmes from 2022, and maybe even the coveted short stop Parsifal F. Rosenkavalier from the Mars City Warlords from 2368.
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Nick Cafardo, Boston Globe, today
And don't rule out Roger Clemens joining the Sox staff. If the Sox can convince Clemens to waive his family clause request (he goes home to Texas between starts) and come to Boston as a closer, it would solve Boston's biggest need.
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Cafardo reminds me of some dude sitting behind his computer wearing a Nomar jersy and a Sox hat on backwards tilted to the right.
I think these clowns just come up with some wet dream idea of somehow getting the Rocket back in Boston. An idea they think of, as if they were the GM. They put it on paper in the hopes that the idea will cause a stir and Theo will have to answer about it and make people think it is a good idea. See Justice.
And then go all wide eyed and innocent when they are reminded of the deals that they demanded that the team must make to be legitimate. "I'm just a newspaper writer, writing about sports, which is only entertainment anyway. Why hold me accountable?" They'll whimper. Mean old Internet bloggers.
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Nick Cafardo, Boston Globe, today
And don't rule out Roger Clemens joining the Sox staff. If the Sox can convince Clemens to waive his family clause request (he goes home to Texas between starts) and come to Boston as a closer, it would solve Boston's biggest need.
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Taking bids? His current employer might pay other people to negotiate for his services. But he's a first baseman; everybody knows they're rag-arms.
Once upon a time, I had a big-league curveball. And I'm pretty sure I can throw 50 miles an hour, just like Wandy.
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GM won't name two targets, denies talk about relievers
Purpura did make the club's first two contract offers to free agents Wednesday night; he declined to identify the players. He also stayed active on the trade front, where center fielder Willy Taveras and utility man Chris Burke are coveted by several teams.
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Any guess on who the two are?
Lee and Soriano
Lee and Williams
Lee and JimR (has a ranch near Houston)
On KTRH this morning the sports reporter (Ted DeLuca?) said an offer had been made to Woody Williams.
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If Lee and Soriano command salaries around $15 million per year, is that too much for the Astros to sink into them? I think it is. That's more than they're paying Berkman, who's easily a better player than either of them.
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this is just crazy. Matsuzaka wants a deal similar to oswalt's, which would but the total spending at about 120-125 million for 5 years of a player thats never thrown a pitch in the mlb.
jesus christ
What, havent you heard? Clemens is going to pitch for the Sox this year.
The Boston people are all ready talking about their great rotation.
Matsuzaka
Schilling
Clemens
Clement
Papplebon
All they have to do is get the Matsuzaka guy to pitch in the majors, Clemens past his .1% and make Papplebon a productive starter after his injury. Thats solid boys!!!
So would Josh Beckett be the new super-closer?
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Absent of seeing the difference in person, I can only provide this view. That doesn't leave a lasting impression, for me at least. We'll see what the Astros do but I'd hate to see Houston give up a contributing player like Burke or Taveras to land Jennings, only to have to give him 8-10mil/yr when I suspect Sampson may be just as effective, if given the chance, and at a fraction of the price. If Houston makes this move, they have to see something beyond his STATS during his time in Colorado. I guess what really turns me off is the guy averages almost 3 walks per start, lasts about 6 2/3 inning per start (which is good), and averages about 4k's per start. Those are not bad numbers but they sure aren't worth 10mil/yr. He's the innings eater the Astros need but at a very hefty price tag.
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this is just crazy. Matsuzaka wants a deal similar to oswalt's, which would but the total spending at about 120-125 million for 5 years of a player thats never thrown a pitch in the mlb.
jesus christ
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it's Pettitte's money we're talking about here, so some semblance of being reasonable needs to come into play
Why is it Pettitte's money as opposed to say Woody Williams' money or Randy Wolf's money? At $5.5 million, he's probably cheaper than any good free agent the Astros could find.
If the Astros trade for Jennings and Pettitte wants to come back, the money would seem to be there.
News on Jennings'
Although, in that article, there are hints that he lives in Texas (played at Baylor), but no word of whether it's a Ranch, just outside Houston, or even if he cares about playing close to his home.
Seriously, they are talking Pettitte level money for a guy who's K/BB ratio is 1.46, for his career. This guy is not worth 10mil/yr. If Jennings gets that, Pettitte deserves $14mil.
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What if the Astros could work a Lidge/Ensberg deal for Pena/Youkilis? That would solve the third-base problem for the Astros and give the team some additional power in right field. (Ensberg presumably could play first base for the Red Sox). The Astros could then forget about Lee and concentrate their efforts say on Soriano.
Berkman 1st
Biggio 2nd
Everett SS
Youkilis 3rd
Ausmus C
Pena RF
Soriano CF
Scott LF
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You know if any other team besides the Yankees or Redsox had done this, the so called analysts would be saying how stupid this kind of deal is. We all know that this is the dumbest thing a team could do, but its the fact that the east coast media is saying nothing about what should be so clear. Could you imagine what they would be saying if the Rangers had done this? But no its the Redsox.
Mike and Mike in the morning had a list of all the top pitchers in baseball who, combined, would cost less than the 51 million for next year. It was something like 5 top starters and 5 top relievers.
I saw that Tampa Bay made a bid.
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Either they retire or re-sign in Houston. The chance that one of those two things does not happen in less than 1% in my book.
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Is Andy getting more than his workout advice from the Drama Queen?
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I wonder if the rumors about the Astros purchasing a fainting couch for the clubhouse are true.
In addition to the cushy landing spot, is this some contrived tactic of forcing the club to pursue the necessary upgrades, to improve competitiveness etc..., or a negotiating ploy to get Houston to pony up the cash? I'm thinking it's probably a bit of both.
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If everyone just played close to home, San Diego or Arizona would win the WS every year
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Rosenthal has very solid sources within baseball. i do not dismiss his column.
I don't either, however, I would like see someone else, besides Richard Justice say the same thing. In this case, Sherman is out in left field, Lidge to the Reds? Not likely.
Could it be Lidge and Willy T in a package to Florida for Willis?
why would the marlins want lidge?
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Rosenthal has very solid sources within baseball. i do not dismiss his column.
I don't either, however, I would like see someone else, besides Richard Justice say the same thing. In this case, Sherman is out in left field, Lidge to the Reds? Not likely.
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You know what that song is about, don't you?
I know the common interpretation to which you allude. However, Dave Fenton has said that it's actually about feeling so alienated and alone that after a break-up that it was like being a stranger in a foreign land.
"No sex, no drugs, no wine, no women
No fun, no sin, no you, no wonder it's dark
Everyone around me is a total stranger
Everyone avoids me like a Psyclone Ranger
Everyone"
The "other" meaning is more fun, and Fenton has toyed with people about it in the past. I just don't think the lyrics support it.
"I've got your picture of me and you
You wrote "I love you" I wrote "me too"
I sit there staring and there's nothing else to do
Oh it's in color
Your hair is brown
Your eyes are hazel
And soft as clouds
I often kiss you when there's no one else around"
Fenton can be coy all he wants about it meaning feeling lonely after a breakup, but there's no doubt the song is about whacking off to a girl's picture.
Speaking of... go see Borat. Two scenes involving this specifically (one is quick, and out on the sidewalk and hilarious, the other leads to a much more extended scene that's cry-worthy funny AND uncomfortable to watch).
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defense attorneys tell their clients to always try the field tests and to never blow.
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Living in Florida as I do, I would also add aged. But that is oh, so politically incorrect.
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Richard Justice comes to the rescue, in his blog he explains our options, "...if you are sick of ESPN, you should get a television with a power button." So, as he lets us know in his articles and blog, if you do not like the way sports is covered, you can stop watching sports.
Every time I start to allow myself to consider the possibility that someone, somewhere, some time, in some dimension, might have been a worse columnist than Richard Justice, he brings me back to reality.
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Some more comic relief for you.
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Someone actually thought that was worth publishing? Was it "Take your Child to Work Day"?
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Heard similar speculation (Sheffield to Houston) from Cowherd this morning. It made me want to drive into a bridge abutment.
Shit...not taking into account what we'd have to give up...b/c I have no idea what that would be, I'd frick'n love to see "The Chef" in an Astros uni.
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The king of flip flop is back with a an idea....
The sad thing is he fully expects the Astros and worse, their fans, to take him seriously. First it's trade all the rookies, then play them, then again trade, no play...no... If the Astros did all the things he has suggested we'd be rooting for a dump truck with a shaved ice machine welded on and wearing a spinning beanie cap with the broken star on the front..
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How 'bout the extended Chevy commercial made to look like a John Cougar song?
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I am proud to say I don't have a clue what the fuck you're talking about.
I'm not sure if this is what you're asking, but I own neither a single record by Eminem nor 50cent.
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I hate myself for knowing this, but 50cent is from NY, not Detroit.
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That may not be the actual reason. Just read some of the player comments in this article.
Apparently the players weren't getting a warm fuzzy when he gave them the cold shoulder.
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Love the assumption that 2b is the same as playing SS. Yep, any good 2B can slide over to the right, no problems.
OK, 2 problems:
1. Reds and Astros are in the same division
2. Houston is not giving up pitching, which is what Cincy wants
3. They not only want pitching, they want experienced, quality, starting pitching. Let me know how long that list is for Houston and then cut it down by 1. Then answer this: What does the resulting rotation in Houston look like?
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Olbermann is saying that if there's any truth to it the Braves are stupid and Schuerholz must have a gun to his head by his bosses.
Two years ago, Jayson Start wrote that the Astros had put Roger Clemens and Jeff Kent on the waiver wire and that several teams, including the Boston Red Sox made claims on both.
Houston simply pulled them back. So why the report? Because both Clemens and Kent were in the last year of their contract and one can extrapolate that maybe... just maybe... the club is thinking about dealing those players.
It is worth a shot to speculate just in case the blind squirrel did find an acorn.
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I hate Justice just as much as the next guy, I hate people who think they are way more important than they actually are. BUT, why is it so hard to believe Drayton said "you must trade Lidge" then deny it. Ofcourse he has to deny it now, Lidge is still on the team.
Other people have answered this directly but, just to pile on, don't forget that Justice's credibility has been severely eroded on other issues around this trade deadline and in the past. If Justice had the reputation of scoopmeister Mark Berman, then you'd be inclided to believe him. But Justice has shown time and time again that he will go off half, or even no, cocked, then try to dig his way out of a hole with bullshit and obfuscation.
The name Pinwheel says it all.
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All those dipsticks at the Comical have "blogs" now...
Not that it makes The Dick any less accountable but that turd Jose d? Jesus is just as despicable...
Earlier this week on 610 he was relating how he was in the locker room and overheard Lidge mutter some not so kind remarks about starting pitching in general and Oswalt in particular...
Worried that Roy didn't catch the remarks JdJ takes it upon himself to run over and say "Hey Roy, didya hear what Lidge just said?"...
He was so proud of himself stirring the crap up...
What a punk...
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Quite a bizarre situation. I can't see anyone in our clubhouse getting into fisticuffs with Gar--Preston would take a swing and miss by 5 feet, Everett would be great at blocking punches but couldn't land any of his own, while Mo would just stand there and stare blankly.
Then again, maybe Ausmus would be terrific at landing 1-2 combos.
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I'm always amazed by how many people you see at Dolphins Stadium wandering around wearing the paraphernalia of a team not involved in that night's game. Why get tarted up in a Mets costume to go see the Astros play the Marleens?
Because you're a loser and girls don't like you?
I expect that about sums it up. OK, I'm off to the game now myself happily wearing my Grady Sizemore jersey and my Indians cap.
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absolutely not. often the best hitters make the worst coaches. they do not know how they did it and cannot teach fundamentals; they just saw the ball and hit it.
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Limey.... The RAF is the best trained and most intelligent Air Force I every got to serve with. It says a lot that they tried to recruit you.
That they were having a down year?
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It also helps and is highly encouraged to have a letter of recommendation from a senator or congressman.
It's required. Only a Congressman or the Vice President can appoint you to a service academy.
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I was not refering to the beer. I was refering to the weather. Those two countries should change names. Iceland is more green and more scenic the Greenland. Both places are incredible, and it sounds like you wont be disapointed.
Yeah, though I've never been to either, I've studied their histories a bit. As an undergrad, I double majored in geology and history and actually studied Viking history quite a bit. The history of the Vikings in Iceland and Greenland (and North America) is fascinating.
Interestingly, there was a show on the History Channel tonight about Vikings.
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I feel like I do have the grades to get into Annapolis if I wanted to but I don't. I'm currently holding onto a 4.3+ GPA and am in the top 50 of my class of over 1000 at Pearland High School.
If your GPA isn't perfect and you're not in the top one or two of your class, and class president, you probably wouldn't stand much of a chance.
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Bring a jacket. I would try Iceland, its much much better.
"Better" is in the eye of the beholder. I'm going for geology, not the beer.
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I can also set you up with someone who will take care of you and help you keep from pumping shit out of airplanes in Greenland.
I really want to go to Greenland. That's pretty high on my list of places to go before I die. Seriously.
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i know there's a lot of fine people in the military, and that the military can offer many things, but in this particular day and age we live in, i'd advise any young person to stay as far the hell away from the military as you can. enjoy your fun years; don't waste them in some third world country halfway across the globe. i say blow off this navy guy, and work on more important things-- like finding somebody of age to buy beer for you and your friends. just my opinion.
Just my opinion, but that was quite offensive.
i don't know how to say it without sounding offensive, but i just think that for some random HS kid, especially now considering the many US foreign entanglements, a lengthy military commitment can unknowingly take away a lot of important years. i hate to see kids choose such a commitment when they are too young or too inexperienced to fully understand what they're getting into. i agree with UC, if you want to do it then do it after college when you have more of a sense of how you want your life to go.
I wouldn't try to encourage a young person that I don't know in either direction. For some, the opportunities of serving their country and learning a skill, or getting an education, might be their best chance in life. Others might not have the dedication at this point in their life, or their current point of view, to that sort of commitment to help them or the millitary.
I have no problem with that and never will.
Some poeple really see the need and have the desire to help other people out and/or to serve. I don't have a problem with that.
I hate to see where someone trivializes the situation into trying to find a beer as a goal in life. As you said, there are many good people that have decided to serve. There are many good people who didn't. I hate to see anyone make light of either decision.
i wasn't saying that finding a beer was necessarily a goal in life, only that it is an example of the kind of dumb rite-of-passage experience that i think teenagers should be dealing with right now. i think that being thrust into combat in the middle east is more than a teenager should have to deal with.
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Don't worry, Browneye is gonna kick his ass soon enough.
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Hey guys I'm going into my Senior year of High Schoo, The Navy contacted me today and asked if I'd come in for a meeting tomorrow & I said sure. I have no intention of joining but he insisted that I at least see what they have to offer. I know going to Annapolis and getting an Ivy League education is very prestigious but as of right now that's not what I want to do. Has any one of you guys ever sat down and talked with a recruiter- If so what have the had to say? Or do any of you have experience in the Navy w/ college and stuff.
Thanks, Joe
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....First you go into Drayton for not offering Clemens arbitration and then praise them. Ausmus won't speak to you and now Casserly. Can you blame them? You get angry and write some off the cuff column that embarasses them in the paper and then when they won't speak to you, you try to save face. I normally enjoy your columns, but I have to agree with the flip flop comment on this one.
I have to say your tone is a little mean. I'm going to let you get in this one time, but you better be on your best behavior next time around.
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When you write critical stuff about people, they sometimes get mad. That's life. I get mad when I'm ripped on this blog, but I also understand that's life in the big city.
What makes you think Ausmus won't speak to me? He loves me. I'm his best friend now that Bagwell is gone.
I'm pretty sure he's going to invite me to his house for Thanksgiving. I won't be able to go because I don't socialize with ball players.
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Apparently its not just the Astros who dislike Justice, Charlie Casserly also won't speak to him. Weird, Justice wears a scarlet A (Asshole) and seems to believe it speaks more about them than about him. He takes pride in not having access.
He revels in his crapulance. From his most recent blog,
"You've hit a nerve. Flip-flopper? Does that mean there's something wrong with people changing their minds? ...I think of flip-flopping as a flattering term. If you mean that facts change and that a person continues to explore an issue and that sometimes you change your mind, then, yes, I'm a flip-flopper. ...
I'll bet you're sorry you opened this can of worms. I play dumb most of the time, but sometimes people get me stirred up and my brilliance is out there for the entire world to see."
There is absolutely no use to replying to any of the Chron sports monkeys blogs. They choose which replys to post.
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Is puffy taco a new code word?
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You think you could name a high school team the Brewers? Or a college team?
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well if you put ducks in a barrel and give a blind man a gun and tell him to shoot he will eventually hit one. maybe this is one surgery they will get right. dont think the one legged thing would work to well in the outfield tho there are times he hasnt really moved to much to go get the ball
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Hogwash.
And the Award for Best Use of Grizzled 1890's Prospector Lingo goes to...
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HUDSONHAWK!
Just think Walter Brennen in Rio Bravo. "I aint-a gonna be askin' no questions, I'mma gonna come out a-blastin'!"
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1. you are correct in your first point but AQ is not the only Terrorist org. You are also correct in the fact that Sadam did not want the terror orgs in his country. But that doesnt stop him from supporting terror. Also I made this point in a previous post with HH.
So explain to me again why, with Saddam contained, toothless and nothing to do with al Qaeda or 9/11, did we invade?Quote:
2. Once again you are WRONG on WMD found in Iraq. Sarin and Mustard gas was reported back in 2004. The Link,2933,120137,00.html
One bomb and one shell? That's it? Maybe someone brought it with them - chemical stashes have been uncovered that are brand, spankin' new.Quote:
3.Once again see 2. The key words are Stockpiles and Post 1991 WMD. We did not find Stockpiles, but we did find WMD...Look it up. You love the media so much, Go to Google and type in "Sarin in Iraq" and you will find Fox, BBC, CBS etc reported the find in 2004 along with Mustard. Do some research, dont just pull shit out of your arse.
Or I could read here that the one shell does not mean that the shell in question was this year's model. Also, sarin isn't the instantly deadly nerve gas that is widely feared. The CDC reports that, because sarin evaporates so quickly, it presents "an immediate but short-lived threat". Mild or moderate exposure will result in unpleasant symptoms from which the victim will recovery completely. Only "severe" exposure is likely to result in death. Still deadly, but there is an argument that sarin and mustard gases are not actually WMDs. Sure if you had enough - but Saddam clearly didn't (one shell of indeterminate age) - and "enough" of anything can be deadly. Even beer.
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. It was no fun watching the Nick Berg film trying to find clues.
I watched one of those beheading videos on some "Faces of Death" type website a year or so ago.... dumb idea. That messed with my head (no pun intended) for weeks. Pretty much cured me of viewing that type of material.
BTW Browneye, thanks for your service to the country. It has been interesting to read your perpective and experiences. It has also been interesting and informative to read the viewpoints of Limey, Arky, HH, and others. Unfortunately in this type of debate there is no happy endpoint. But it has remained civil, which is good.
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Limey come on, I thought you had this. 1997 is when the major high level defections from Iraq occured. A wealth of information came from those defections. As soon as the defections occured the inspectors were kicked out. After 9/11 the belief of an AQ and Iraq alliance through various means led to the drum up for war. We know their was an alliance with terrorist organizations as have been reported through the media. Dont forget that Sadam use to pay the families of suicide bombers in Isreal.
There never was any link between al Qaeda, an Islamic fundamentalist group, and the secular Hussein regime. Saddam was shit scared of al Qaeda because the last thing he wanted was zealots creating unrest against his rule. It is well documented that there was no link between Iraq and al Qaeda and both Bush and Cheney have admitted this. (Edit: see extra comment below)Quote:
As for Blix, Iraq had 6 years to do whatever with his weapons. Limey, we found Mig's buried in the desert. No one ever said Iraq didnt have WMD... If you look at the reports that come out even to this day, the cause for war is over STOCKPILES/CACHES, and it had to be made POST 1991. We are still finding mass graves with people who were killed by WMD and it was while inspections were going on....So he did have it... So where the hell is it. By the way, do you really think nobody is still keeping an eye out for WMD in Iraq.
You still say this despite the fact that there have been no traces of WMDs, let alone stockpiles, found since the invasion nearly three years ago. Plus, the Colin Powell quote I gave you from pre-9/11 when he said that Iraq's WMD capability had been neutralised.
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One more thing and then I am done with this arguement. If you are a cop or in your case a Bobby. You are looking for a suspect with a gun, you find the suspect but only find parts of a gun. Is it a gun? Or is it just pieces of medal?
If by gun, you mean WMDs, or by parts of a gun, you mean WMD capability; neither has been found in Iraq.Quote:
And if Germany was still launching V2 rockets into London as the Iraqis did with long range Scuds to Kuwait, with by the way, were weapons Iraq was not allowed to have. Than yes we should attack Germany. If the Germans were still slaughtering Jews as the Iraqis were still doing to the Kurd up until 2003. Than yes we should attack Germany.
How many scuds did Iraq fire during the invasion? None. Alsao, how many that were fired during the Gulf War were equipped with chemical, biological or nuclear warheads? None, again.
The analogy to punishing someone for prior offenses remains intact. As for Saddam's horrendous treatment of the Kurds, the world stood by and watched that happen at the time. The time for outrage and action was in 1988, not 2003.
Edit: On January 31, 2003, in response to the question "Do you believe that there is a link between Saddam Hussein, a direct link, and the men who attacked on September the 11th?" the President responded "I can't make that claim."
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Limey is getting close to the breakdown in intel and the truth. The magic year is 1997. You have to look at when the inspections ended and when they began again. As far as 2003, Sadam tried the biggest bluff in history against a determined enemy and lost. I was part of the ISG and unfortunately I have to leave it at that.
Here is a good cnn report on the final ISG report. The Link
WTF has 1997 got to do with the 2003 invasion? We were led to war on the premise that Hussein sponsored al Qaeda and had WMDs that he could drop in your soup at a moments notice. At the time the WMD statements were being made, Hans Blix was making his inspections, reporting unprecedented cooperation, and finding little but evidence pointing to there not being WMDs.
Or maybe we should just go and invade Germany for what they did in the 1940's.
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He threw out the inspectors in 1998, and he would not fully cooperate with the inspectors in 2002 and 2003. He sure acted guilty even if he was not.
He was being a prick, which was his preferred methodology.
However, this is what Hans Blix said in his report to the UN Security Council on March 7, 2003:
"Inspections in Iraq resumed on 27 November 2002. In matters relating to process, notably prompt access to sites, we have faced relatively few difficulties and certainly much less than those that were faced by UNSCOM in the period 1991 to 1998. This may well be due to the strong outside pressure...This is not to say that the operation of inspections is free from frictions, but at this juncture we are able to perform professional no-notice inspections all over Iraq and to increase aerial surveillance."
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Saddam was cooperating. Why not let the inspections continue? Blix's boys left of their own accord the day before the invasion.
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"Sources with knowledge of the negotiations say the Orioles and Astros could have agreed on the players in the deal with little difficulty. The Astros were concerned that Tejada would invoke his right to demand a trade at the end of next season as a player dealt in the middle of a multi-year contract. They likely would have asked Tejada to waive that right, a potential sticking point."
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Even the Fourth Amendment impinges liberty. It indicates that reasonable searches and seizures are permissible and that warrants may issue with probable cause. If the government searches my person, house, papers or effects, my liberty has been violated, and I am not going to feel much less violated just because the search is reasonable.
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I look at facts. I can give a damn who the president is.
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2. He is put more money into the military and intel agencies than Bush Senior and Clinton combined. But your coment is a matter of opinion.
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3. The majority of the muslim extremists committing the terror acts in Iraq are not from Iraq. They are from all the surrounding sewer holes and using the lack of law as a chance to do what they do. Most terrorist from the world come from Pakistan Saudi Arabia, Yemen etc. Sadam did not put up with this kind of extremism in Iraq. He was the king and would not have a rival nor share power with a terror org. However, under the no fly zones pre war some organizations operated freely which is what helped fuel the fear of terror and WMD in Iraq.
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Instead people are sacrificing there lives to protect you in ways you wouldnt believe..
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5. you might not be afraid of the buses exploding and planes falling but this is the kind of threat that gets thrown out there. You have to take it as credible, just ask Isreal.
I'm sure there are all kinds of threats thrown out there. That a) doesn't make them credible, and b) doesn't mean that without George W. Bush as President that every single one of them would be automatically carried out to the extreme.Quote:
6. I dont know what you are trying to say on that last one but, I have been to Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia and any other shit hole you can think of and I can tell you without a doubt that this country is worth dying for.
That's exactly what I'm trying to say. I take it you don't disagree with me.
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Browneye never said he even supported the President.
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I personally am a fan of the President in spite of him being wrong on domestic spending, immigration, and laughing at his own jokes. I am convinced that he is the best man for the job in terms of security.
I an not a fan of the President, but not just because of his being wrong on just about everything, but rather because he's the worst possible person for the job in terms of security.Quote:
This country has not been attacked since 9/11 in spite of attempts to do so.
And you think that's because of Bush and if he had not been President that the US would have been taken over Muslim extremists from Iraq by now? I'm sorry, but that's not enlightened thinking. That's the kind of logic people used to justify human sacrifice. "We sacrificed a virgin yesterday, and the sun came up the next day. We'd better keep sacrificing virgins if we want to the sun to keep shining". But that's exactly the kind of scare tactic that the current "leadership" uses on you.Quote:
I think it unfortunate that not more credit is given to the people trying to defend this county(including CIA, FBI, and NSA).
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If you are afraid to get on an airplane because they are falling out of the sky on a daily basis, afraid to go to work because busses are exploding, then what good are your civil liberties?
You're telling me that if not for the Patriot Act you'd be afraid of airlplanes falling out of the sky? That you'd worry about schoolbuses exploding? This is simply a logical fallacy. You've set up this either/or with your only two alternatives at completely opposite ends of the spectrum. That is simply not the way grown up, intelligent people ought to look at things.Quote:
Huh??? Are you serious??? The Patriot Act is SO MUCH worse than crashing airplanes into buildings and killing thousands of innocent people <sarcasm intended>.
If it means denying liberty to the citizenry it's designed to protect, then yes, it's much worse. Many people believe that there are worse things than death, and that liberty and freedom are worth dying for. The purpose of life is not to simply exist as long as possible regardless of how torturous that existence is.
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None...That has nothing to do with detainees at GTMO
If they are considered POWs and denied legal representation under the premise that the US is still under formal hostilities with their home country it does.
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Lane's upside is better and the salary is better, but I am not convinced Lane is going to get much better.
This isn't about upside and about what Lane might do. It is about what Burnitz and Lane did do last season. If Lane doesn't get any better and plays just as he did last season, he'll still play better than Burnitz did last seaosn. And who's got the better chance of improvement? The 28-year-old or the 36-year-old? Whose legs are going to be better in the field and on the basepaths?Player Avg OBP Slg AB 2B 3B HR RBI BB
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Lane .267 .316 .499 517 34 26 65 78 32
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And if Lance moves to first, I would rather have Burnitz in left than Burke.
Sure, but if Lance doesn't move to first, then you're stuck with playing Burnitz or Lane part-time.
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Lane's upside is better and the salary is better, but I am not convinced Lane is going to get much better. And if Lance moves to first, I would rather have Burnitz in left than Burke.
Lane outperformed Burnitz last season. Burnitz would only be an option to replace Burke or Lamb, and that makes no sense. Lamb at 1.7 mil is a better option than Burnitz. The ideal thing would be either a cheap platoon option, or a hitter better than burnitz.
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They still have Ramirez, Loretta, Lowell, and Big Papi. Most of all, they have a huge payroll. They might be ugly right now but they are not the Devil Rays. They will be fine come April especially if Lowell and Schilling return to form.
Besides, maybe this will keep Roger from going over to the Sox.
So, the Red Sox will be fine come April, but the Astros, in spite of Mclane saying that money is not a problem, that he'll pay for anyone they find to fit, and inspite of the numerous reports that the Astros are involved in multiple negotiations, not even to mention they have Berkman, Ensberg, Oswalt, Pettitte, and Lidge, they won't be fine?
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I doubt the Astros want to invest a lot of money in a left fielder precisely because Berkman might wind up there. They want someone cheap who, if necessary, can play either corner as a fourth outfielder or can start if Bagwell cant' play. Mench fills that bill. I don't understand why they'r hot to get a right-handed hitter, though, since they only have one left-handed starting position player.
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If the army had meant you to have a life, they would have issued you one in basic training.