Red Sox sign Matsuzaka?

[austro]

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Daisuke Matsuzaka has reached a deal with the Boston Red Sox for six years, $52 million, a source close to the negotiations has told SI.com. The deal contains escalator clauses that could bring it up to $60 million.

 The link.

If true, that's quite a bit less than I expected Satan to be able to shake from Boston's pockets.

[MusicMan]

Amazing what happens when the Stepson of Lies can't pull competing "offers" out of his ass to drive the price up, isn't it?

[utastro]

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Daisuke Matsuzaka has reached a deal with the Boston Red Sox for six years, $52 million, a source close to the negotiations has told SI.com. The deal contains escalator clauses that could bring it up to $60 million.

 The link.

If true, that's quite a bit less than I expected Satan to be able to shake from Boston's pockets.

Didn't the Red Sox pay $50 million just to talk to Matsuzaka ?  So its more like $102 million over 6 years.  Where did the other $50 million go? Matsuzaka's Japanese team?

[Trey]

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Daisuke Matsuzaka has reached a deal with the Boston Red Sox for six years, $52 million, a source close to the negotiations has told SI.com. The deal contains escalator clauses that could bring it up to $60 million.

 The link.

If true, that's quite a bit less than I expected Satan to be able to shake from Boston's pockets.

Didn't the Red Sox pay $50 million just to talk to Matsuzaka ?  So its more like $102 million over 6 years.  Where did the other $50 million go? Matsuzaka's Japanese team?

Yeah, the Japanese team gets the money from the "auction" unless the player doesn't sign.

[Bench]

I'm pretty surprised at the length of the contract.

[toddthebod]

Apparently, the deal has to be long-term because the only way that the Red Sox can possibly make back the money that they are paying to Seibu is to exploit the Japanese television market.  (They can't sell any more tickets, and they get an equal share of sales of MLB merchandise).  The longer the deal, the more time they have to make money in Japan.  So says Steve Phillips, who I recognize is an idiot.  But this time he makes some sense.

[No? in Austin]

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Amazing what happens when the Stepson of Lies can't pull competing "offers" out of his ass to drive the price up, isn't it?

BWAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!! *cough, cough*... wait... BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! *sniff*

See, he's somewhat human after all, ain't he?  I loved the "Scott, we're getting on a flight tonight, with or without your client.  No other options remain for you."

Boras supposedly said he wouldn't let the player board the plane.  What did he think he could do,  stare down the jet on the runway and make it come to a grinding halt in mid takeoff?  He *really* isn't that powerful, he just thinks he is.

Satan without lies, distortion and deciet is nothing more than another used car salesman.  (Apologies to all used car salesman, I know it hurt you to be lumped in with Boras... my bad!)

[No? in Austin]

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Apparently, the deal has to be long-term because the only way that the Red Sox can possibly make back the money that they are paying to Seibu is to exploit the Japanese television market.  (They can't sell any more tickets, and they get an equal share of sales of MLB merchandise).  The longer the deal, the more time they have to make money in Japan.  So says Steve Phillips, who I recognize is an idiot.  But this time he makes some sense.

With this move, the BoSox are officially out of the Roger Clemens bidding.  Of course, it won't stop ESPN from reporting that Drayton McLane or Debbie Clemens or George Steinbrenner refused to trade Roger to the RedSox at the trading deadline(boo-freaking-hoo!).  Some reporting habits are just too hard to break.  Hey, I haven't Lastings Milledge mentioned lately, what's going on here!  But I digress...

Now we have a clearer picture that it is the Yankees or retirement for The Racket.  I'm hoping for Yankees just to see Beckett, Matsuwhatever, Schilling, Papelbon matching pitch for pitch with Pettitte and Co.  Could make for some innuresting drama.

At least ESPN and FoxSports will tell us it will!

[DVauthrin]

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Amazing what happens when the Stepson of Lies can't pull competing "offers" out of his ass to drive the price up, isn't it?

BWAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!! *cough, cough*... wait... BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! *sniff*

See, he's somewhat human after all, ain't he?  I loved the "Scott, we're getting on a flight tonight, with or without your client.  No other options remain for you."

Boras supposedly said he wouldn't let the player board the plane.  What did he think he could do,  stare down the jet on the runway and make it come to a grinding halt in mid takeoff?  He *really* isn't that powerful, he just thinks he is.

Satan without lies, distortion and deciet is nothing more than another used car salesman.  (Apologies to all used car salesman, I know it hurt you to be lumped in with Boras... my bad!)

What's sad is Matsuzaka: 6/52=about 8.5 mil a year.   Ted Lilly 10 mil a year, Jason Marquis around 7 mil a year with a 6 era.   Randy Wolf got 8 mil over a year for being a living breathing body.   Gil Meche 11 mil.   If Matsuzaka is as good as people say he is, the red sox got a steal in this market.

[No? in Austin]

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Amazing what happens when the Stepson of Lies can't pull competing "offers" out of his ass to drive the price up, isn't it?

BWAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!! *cough, cough*... wait... BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! *sniff*

See, he's somewhat human after all, ain't he?  I loved the "Scott, we're getting on a flight tonight, with or without your client.  No other options remain for you."

Boras supposedly said he wouldn't let the player board the plane.  What did he think he could do,  stare down the jet on the runway and make it come to a grinding halt in mid takeoff?  He *really* isn't that powerful, he just thinks he is.

Satan without lies, distortion and deciet is nothing more than another used car salesman.  (Apologies to all used car salesman, I know it hurt you to be lumped in with Boras... my bad!)

What's sad is Matsuzaka: 6/52=about 8.5 mil a year.   Ted Lilly 10 mil a year, Jason Marquis around 7 mil a year with a 6 era.   Randy Wolf got 8 mil over a year for being a living breathing body.   Gil Meche 11 mil.   If Matsuzaka is as good as people say he is, the red sox got a steal in this market.

All hail the power of "exclusive negotiations"!  MatsuHellIfIknow may of settle for Randy Wolf money (and Boras will probably take 1/3 of it somehow), but the BoSox paid Kevin Brown money to do so.

[austro]

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At least ESPN and FoxSports will tell us it will!

You can be sure they'll show us every pitch.

[schlumburger04]

 

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What's sad is Matsuzaka: 6/52=about 8.5 mil a year. Ted Lilly 10 mil a year, Jason Marquis around 7 mil a year with a 6 era. Randy Wolf got 8 mil over a year for being a living breathing body. Gil Meche 11 mil. If Matsuzaka is as good as people say he is, the red sox got a steal in this market.

boras had no leverage whatsoever. it was either take the shitty deal or take the shitty deal, he was never gonna be able to get FA market value for him

going back to japan wasnt an option and selig would never get his back on this, boras was effed

[OldBlevins]

However, the Red Sox also threw in this excellent coat.

The Link

[Limey]

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He *really* isn't that powerful, he just thinks he is.

He's as powerful as the GMs allow him to be, which has been pretty powerful.  I'm seriously considering sending every major league GM a DVD of the Dog Whisperer for the holidays.

[Trey]

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Now we have a clearer picture that it is the Yankees or retirement for The Racket.  I'm hoping for Yankees just to see Beckett, Matsuwhatever, Schilling, Papelbon matching pitch for pitch with Pettitte and Co.  Could make for some innuresting drama.

At least ESPN and FoxSports will tell us it will!

Am I the only that thinks there's a *chance* that he comes back to the Astros?  I still think he's more likely to pitch here than in NY.  My guess is he retires, but if he does pitch, here seems as likely (if not moreso) a destination as anywhere else.

[Trey]

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However, the Red Sox also threw in this excellent coat.

The Link

Is that George Costanza's  Gore-Tex Coat?

[pravata]

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Amazing what happens when the Stepson of Lies can't pull competing "offers" out of his ass to drive the price up, isn't it?

BWAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!! *cough, cough*... wait... BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! *sniff*

See, he's somewhat human after all, ain't he?  I loved the "Scott, we're getting on a flight tonight, with or without your client.  No other options remain for you."

Boras supposedly said he wouldn't let the player board the plane.  What did he think he could do,  stare down the jet on the runway and make it come to a grinding halt in mid takeoff?  He *really* isn't that powerful, he just thinks he is.

Satan without lies, distortion and deciet is nothing more than another used car salesman.  (Apologies to all used car salesman, I know it hurt you to be lumped in with Boras... my bad!)

What's sad is Matsuzaka: 6/52=about 8.5 mil a year.   Ted Lilly 10 mil a year, Jason Marquis around 7 mil a year with a 6 era.   Randy Wolf got 8 mil over a year for being a living breathing body.   Gil Meche 11 mil.   If Matsuzaka is as good as people say he is, the red sox got a steal in this market.

All hail the power of "exclusive negotiations"!  MatsuHellIfIknow may of settle for Randy Wolf money (and Boras will probably take 1/3 of it somehow), but the BoSox paid Kevin Brown money to do so.

None of his bullshit worked,

Boras focused instead on only the money going to his client. "Free agent pitchers who are 26 and have Matsuzaka-like ability receive salaries in excess of $100 million over five or six years in free agency," he said Monday night.

"We?re on Scott Boras? doorstep because he hasn?t negotiated with us thus far," Henry said during a conference call early Tuesday, (after flying out to CA) "and we?re taking the fight directly to him, the fight to have a negotiation here."   The Link

?His biggest issue is the respect of the Japanese player,? Boras said. ?The issue is he wants the Japanese player to be treated with respect in the American system. If he?s not respected, then he?ll go back to a system where he is respected.?

Mentioning that benchmark probably means the Red Sox have offered Matsuzaka around $8 million or $9 million a season. Boras said a pitcher of Matsuzaka?s caliber could make more than $100 million for five or six years.

?You can?t pay an historic posting price and then say he?s unproven,? Boras said. ?His value is not consistent with a midlevel major league pitcher. The posting price represents his value in the marketplace.?

? Boras said Matsuzaka had studied the contracts of the free-agent pitchers from this rich off-season, including Gil Meche?s five-year, $55 million deal from the Kansas City Royals. ?

?Gil Meche is making $11 million a year,? Boras said. ?This is a pitcher who was in the minor leagues in ?04 and has an injury history.?

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stallling negotiations, ?Matsuzaka-like abilities?, ?respect?  ?historic posting price?  pretending it's the client who is setting the price "Matsuzaka had studied the contracts...(?)" none of it worked.  He's a liar and a fraud.  It's beyond my comprehension that his bullshit works on anyone anymore.  The thing is though, the Hendricks Brothers are excellent note takers.

[No? in Austin]

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Amazing what happens when the Stepson of Lies can't pull competing "offers" out of his ass to drive the price up, isn't it?

BWAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!! *cough, cough*... wait... BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! *sniff*

See, he's somewhat human after all, ain't he?  I loved the "Scott, we're getting on a flight tonight, with or without your client.  No other options remain for you."

Boras supposedly said he wouldn't let the player board the plane.  What did he think he could do,  stare down the jet on the runway and make it come to a grinding halt in mid takeoff?  He *really* isn't that powerful, he just thinks he is.

Satan without lies, distortion and deciet is nothing more than another used car salesman.  (Apologies to all used car salesman, I know it hurt you to be lumped in with Boras... my bad!)

What's sad is Matsuzaka: 6/52=about 8.5 mil a year.   Ted Lilly 10 mil a year, Jason Marquis around 7 mil a year with a 6 era.   Randy Wolf got 8 mil over a year for being a living breathing body.   Gil Meche 11 mil.   If Matsuzaka is as good as people say he is, the red sox got a steal in this market.

All hail the power of "exclusive negotiations"!  MatsuHellIfIknow may of settle for Randy Wolf money (and Boras will probably take 1/3 of it somehow), but the BoSox paid Kevin Brown money to do so.

None of his bullshit worked,

Boras focused instead on only the money going to his client. "Free agent pitchers who are 26 and have Matsuzaka-like ability receive salaries in excess of $100 million over five or six years in free agency," he said Monday night.

"We?re on Scott Boras? doorstep because he hasn?t negotiated with us thus far," Henry said during a conference call early Tuesday, (after flying out to CA) "and we?re taking the fight directly to him, the fight to have a negotiation here."   The Link

?His biggest issue is the respect of the Japanese player,? Boras said. ?The issue is he wants the Japanese player to be treated with respect in the American system. If he?s not respected, then he?ll go back to a system where he is respected.?

Mentioning that benchmark probably means the Red Sox have offered Matsuzaka around $8 million or $9 million a season. Boras said a pitcher of Matsuzaka?s caliber could make more than $100 million for five or six years.

?You can?t pay an historic posting price and then say he?s unproven,? Boras said. ?His value is not consistent with a midlevel major league pitcher. The posting price represents his value in the marketplace.?

? Boras said Matsuzaka had studied the contracts of the free-agent pitchers from this rich off-season, including Gil Meche?s five-year, $55 million deal from the Kansas City Royals. ?

?Gil Meche is making $11 million a year,? Boras said. ?This is a pitcher who was in the minor leagues in ?04 and has an injury history.?

Registration required The Link

stallling negotiations, ?Matsuzaka-like abilities?, ?respect?  ?historic posting price?  pretending it's the client who is setting the price "Matsuzaka had studied the contracts...(?)" none of it worked.  He's a liar and a fraud.  It's beyond my comprehension that his bullshit works on anyone anymore.  The thing is though, the Hendricks Brothers are excellent note takers.

You need the power of "I've got another team ready to pounce on X deal if you're not interested...".  The Hendricks Bros know that if they didn't have the Yankees and it was all about Pettitte wanting to come back to Houston exclusively, 12 million, one year would've been a *GREAT* offer.

Anything they say beyond that about "respect" and such is a bunch of hooey!  It's all about market and how to play it.

[Limey]

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You need the power of "I've got another team ready to pounce on X deal if you're not interested...".  The Hendricks Bros know that if they didn't have the Yankees and it was all about Pettitte wanting to come back to Houston exclusively, 12 million, one year would've been a *GREAT* offer.

Anything they say beyond that about "respect" and such is a bunch of hooey!  It's all about market and how to play it.

I wonder: does YanmeeFan feel hosed because "they" paid $32 million for a $12 million player?