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« on: November 22, 2006, 12:11:47 pm »
I just got an HD TV and the Time Warner HDTV service hooked up last night. And I was amazed most by a Basketball Game, it's incredible the difference between watching a basketball game in HD vs. non HD. No football games on HD last night, but I can only imagine the same result.

Sooo, I'm hoping FOX Sports Net plans to simulcast in HD also. Or maybe they already do, do they?
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2006, 12:15:20 pm »
You'll never be able to watch anything in SD again.

It's like putting a condom over your head to watch the game.

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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2006, 12:20:45 pm »
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2006, 12:22:27 pm »
What the fuck else am I supposed to do with those things?

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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2006, 12:27:22 pm »
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You'll never be able to watch anything in SD again.

It's like putting a condom over your head to watch the game.





But say the Astros sign Lee.  Are you sure you want to see Lance Berkman and Carlos Lee's bodies in HD? One is bad enough, the sight of both could scare the average viewer.
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2006, 12:28:35 pm »
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I just got an HD TV and the Time Warner HDTV service hooked up last night. And I was amazed most by a Basketball Game, it's incredible the difference between watching a basketball game in HD vs. non HD. No football games on HD last night, but I can only imagine the same result.

Sooo, I'm hoping FOX Sports Net plans to simulcast in HD also. Or maybe they already do, do they?




Where are you?  Last year's offerings by Time-Warner in Austin were very meager; in fact, I'm pretty sure we got more HD games in 2005.  I don't understand what the hang-up is.  The channel guide will claim that the game is on, but it never really is.
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2006, 12:32:25 pm »
I'm in Houston. I'm just learning about HD, so I have no idea.
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2006, 01:06:22 pm »
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I'm in Houston. I'm just learning about HD, so I have no idea.




When I first got an HDTV, I was hypnotized by the Discovery HD channel. Their shows are all cool, but the one on fireworks displays was incredible. And I can't wait until Dish Network adds HD porn. You know it has to be ... coming.

I think football is the best sport to watch in HD. You're in for a real treat tomorrow, regardless of who's playing.

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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2006, 01:08:28 pm »
I didn't think of HD Porn. My wife looks at the TWC bills,
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2006, 01:17:46 pm »
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I'm in Houston. I'm just learning about HD, so I have no idea.



CBS has some crappy-arsed HD.  I think they go for the lowest pixel count that can still be called high-def.  Most of the other HD channels are pretty sweet.

TimeWarner has some stealth HD channels, so check their website for the full list.  There's even a TNT HD for Van Damage re-runs and NBA.  If you subscribe to HBO and/or Showtime, you automotically get the HD feed of their main east and west coast channels (460/461 for HBO and 470/471 for S/T).

You have to pay extra to get ESPN HD (which I vowed never to get because I wasn't going to pay those tossers any more money and then they started carrying Astros playoff games in 2005 and so I was going to sign up for October and then cancel but I never cancelled and fuck!), but you also get INHD1 & 2 thrown in, which are completely random channels that can bail you out on a slow TV night.
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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2006, 03:36:08 pm »
Every once in a while Fox Sports will have a random weekend where they show Stros games in HD (Channel 302), but most of the time that channel is off the air and the Astros are in woefully saddening SD.  HD can get creepy though, like when you see the sweat glistening on the announcers foreheads.

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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2006, 05:34:22 pm »
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I just got an HD TV and the Time Warner HDTV service hooked up last night. And I was amazed most by a Basketball Game, it's incredible the difference between watching a basketball game in HD vs. non HD. No football games on HD last night, but I can only imagine the same result.

Sooo, I'm hoping FOX Sports Net plans to simulcast in HD also. Or maybe they already do, do they?





I got maybe a dozen of them last year, but it was hit or miss as to when they were broadcast.

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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2006, 06:27:22 pm »
Just FYI,  this page keeps a pretty up-to-date schedule of both national and regional HD sports programming.  I think football translates even better to HD than basketball, so congrats on the new set and enjoy all the games this weekend.

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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2006, 02:20:04 am »
The wife and I just got a 52" DLP.  We already have digital cable.  Should we upgrade our cable to HD or go satellite?  How much would either cost?

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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2006, 03:18:23 am »
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The wife and I just got a 52" DLP.  We already have digital cable.  Should we upgrade our cable to HD or go satellite?  How much would either cost?




I've always preferred Dish Network. They have a shitload of HD channels, and MLB Extra Innings now. And also the best porn.

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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2006, 09:57:52 am »
upgrading to HD through Time Warner in Austin actually cost me less. they gave me "bundle pricing" on adding the HD channels and reduced my monthly bill. it costs nothing to trade out the box and get the DVR if you do not now have one.
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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2006, 12:01:05 pm »
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upgrading to HD through Time Warner in Austin actually cost me less. they gave me "bundle pricing" on adding the HD channels and reduced my monthly bill. it costs nothing to trade out the box and get the DVR if you do not now have one.




So what is the monthly cost? I'm thinking of going that route but not sure if I can justify in my fugal mind $100 plus a month to watch a fancier TV picture.
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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2006, 12:02:34 pm »
do you have digital cable now? i did, and i added HD for less than that.
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« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2006, 12:08:42 pm »
No, I just have basic and HBO. I use my own tuner so I never got one of those boxes.
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« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2006, 12:12:48 pm »
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No, I just have basic and HBO. I use my own tuner so I never got one of those boxes.




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« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2006, 12:15:35 pm »
not having a DVR is a huge mistake. pry a couple of those nickles apart and upgrade.
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« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2006, 10:28:44 pm »
We currently have digital cable with two converter boxes and no TW DVRs.  I also have a Media Center PC that serves as my standalone DVR.  However, I might spring for a TW HD-DVR because the Media Center is not compatible with cable/satellite HD.

So you upgraded from digital to HD and your monthly rate actually went down?

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« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2006, 10:38:28 pm »
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« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2006, 02:44:04 pm »
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So what is the monthly cost? I'm thinking of going that route but not sure if I can justify in my fugal mind $100 plus a month to watch a fancier TV picture.



Assuming you have an HD-capable telly, it costs $5/month to upgrade to HD (plus the converter box rental if you don't currently rent...about $3-4 IIRC).  The DVR is an additional $5/month.

Think of the monthly cost in real-world terms: that's three beers in an ice house or two pints in a pseudo-English/Irish pub or one beer at MMPUS.
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« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2006, 04:25:05 pm »
Don't forget, you if your HDTV has a digital tuner (also known as an ATSC or OTA tuner) you can put up an antenna and get the best looking HDTV for free.  (Note: you will only get broadcast channels, so you can't watch the Astros this way except when they're on a FOX Saturday broadcast.)

Any HD is an order of magnitude better than SDTV, but there's also a matter of which HDTV is the best.  It comes down to the amount of bandwidth.

OTA ("over the air"-broadcast TV) has the most bandwidth, and it looks the best, followed by HD over digital cable, then Dish Network,  with DirecTV (heaviest compression) coming in last.  

Available bandwidth also affects the number of HD channels.  Keep in mind that both satellite providers have far less bandwidth to work with than cable or OTA.  DirecTV has increased compression so they can provide more channels, and DISH will eventually do this too.  For now, DirecTV has more available bandwidth for channels and DISH's offerings look better.
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« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2006, 04:33:33 pm »
I saw a interview with a FSN exec after DirecTV added the FSN HD feeds, and he said they want to double the number HD games in 2007 from the numbers they had in '06.  Last season FSN Houston broadcast 18 games in HD.  He said the goal is to have all baseball/basketball games they show in HD by 2010.

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Available bandwidth also affects the number of HD channels.  Keep in mind that both satellite providers have far less bandwidth to work with than cable or OTA.  DirecTV has increased compression so they can provide more channels, and DISH will eventually do this too.  For now, DirecTV has more available bandwidth for channels and DISH's offerings look better.



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« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2006, 11:54:32 am »
I forgot to mention, the more compressed a channel is, the worse it looks.  Also, let's play some Guitar Hero II.

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Available bandwidth also affects the number of HD channels.  Keep in mind that both satellite providers have far less bandwidth to work with than cable or OTA.  DirecTV has increased compression so they can provide more channels, and DISH will eventually do this too.  For now, DirecTV has more available bandwidth for channels and DISH's offerings look better.



What's all this bandwahoosie nonsense.  We all know that TV is a series of tubes and if someone dumps a whole bunch of stuff on it the one of your internets will get stuck in line.



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« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2006, 02:53:44 pm »
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Assuming you have an HD-capable telly, it costs $5/month to upgrade to HD (plus the converter box rental if you don't currently rent...about $3-4 IIRC).  The DVR is an additional $5/month.





I don't know shit when it comes to HDTV.  From this statement, I gather that you must have a TV that is HD-capable and then on top of that you must subscribe to a cable service that offers HD programs?
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« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2006, 03:15:18 pm »
Yes and no.  HD content from the major broadcast networks is freely available over the airwaves using a VHF/UHF antenna.  If you want additional programming (e.g. HBO, ESPN) in HD, you'll need to get HD satellite or cable.

However, HD programming isn't required; HDTVs will still display standard definition programming, such as analog cable.

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« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2006, 04:24:48 pm »
How much bigger is the hard drive on the Time Warner HD DVR box? And you say it doesn't count any more than the standard DVR box?

I intend to go the HD route after the first of the year,

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« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2006, 04:43:01 pm »
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How much bigger is the hard drive on the Time Warner HD DVR box? And you say it doesn't count any more than the standard DVR box?

I intend to go the HD route after the first of the year,




I have an HD DVR from Time Warner.  I've never filled it, even though the HD shows must be huge files to store.  It does default to auto-erase a recording after 14 days which helps keep things a little cleaner, but you can change that to a shorter erase time, longer or never (customisable per show).

I had shit-loads of HD soccer matches on there during the World Cup, and it never complained.
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« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2006, 04:46:07 pm »
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The wife and I just got a 52" DLP.  We already have digital cable.  Should we upgrade our cable to HD or go satellite?  How much would either cost?




I've been very happy with my switch from Time Warner to Dish Network a few months ago.  Dish's rates were better than the digital cable I had (and they're significantly lower in the short-term due to a 10-month promotion), there are many more HD channels available, and I LOVE Dish's HD-DVR.  The hard drive is huge and the operating system is, for me, much more user friendly than Time Warner's.

However, I'm interested to see if/when/how Gizzmonic's point about compression and picture quality will play out.  For now, at least, the satellite picture looks every bit as good as cable.

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« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2006, 05:07:26 pm »
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How much bigger is the hard drive on the Time Warner HD DVR box? And you say it doesn't count any more than the standard DVR box?

I intend to go the HD route after the first of the year,




I have an HD DVR from Time Warner.  I've never filled it, even though the HD shows must be huge files to store.  It does default to auto-erase a recording after 14 days which helps keep things a little cleaner, but you can change that to a shorter erase time, longer or never (customisable per show).

I had shit-loads of HD soccer matches on there during the World Cup, and it never complained.





I've filled mine up before.  The latest DVR from Time Warner has a 160 GB hard drive.  That equates to 80 hours of standard definition programming, or up to 20 hours of HD programming.  If you get behind a few weeks of your weekly HD network programming and then record a few movies and sporting events, it can fill up.

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« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2006, 05:07:46 pm »
Has anyone tried HD-DVR with DirecTV? Is it possible to lease the box, or do you have to buy one?

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« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2006, 05:20:56 pm »
I've also been considering the switch from Time Warner to DirecTV.  I have two DVR boxes, one of which is HD.  I'll have to figure out if all of this makes sense, as it didn't seem much cheaper to me.  I worry about buying multiple TiVOs and being roped into yearly contracts, having a big ugly dish on my house, and "static" during storms.

On the other hand, customer satisfaction with satellite has been better than cable for years now.

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« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2006, 05:22:43 pm »
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I have an HR10-250. OTA HD for locals, satellite HD for a limited number of other channels (HBO, TNT, etc.). Its a true TiVo with TiVo software which is a plus. I own it, and you can still buy one them on ebay. If you are in to hacking your stuff, you can do 'cool stuff' with a true TiVo like upgrade the HDD on your own, do digital extraction over ethernet, etc.

My brother in law, dad, and a few other friends have gone to the HR20-700. You get all of the locals and the other channels in HD over the satellite. Its made by DirecTV and is not a true 'TiVo', which means its the proprietary DirecTV software. There are differences and each of them has complained about problems with the functionality and stability of the boxes. As far as I know, if you call DirecTV you will have to lease it, but you could buy one off of ebay and own it. You would also need the 'new' style dish to support the extra channels.
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Has anyone tried HD-DVR with DirecTV? Is it possible to lease the box, or do you have to buy one?




I have an HR10-250. OTA HD for locals, satellite HD for a limited number of other channels (HBO, TNT, etc.). Its a true TiVo with TiVo software which is a plus. I own it, and you can still buy one them on ebay. If you are in to hacking your stuff, you can do 'cool stuff' with a true TiVo like upgrade the HDD on your own, do digital extraction over ethernet, etc.

My brother in law, dad, and a few other friends have gone to the HR20-700. You get all of the locals and the other channels in HD over the satellite. Its made by DirecTV and is not a true 'TiVo', which means its the proprietary DirecTV software. There are differences and each of them has complained about problems with the functionality and stability of the boxes. As far as I know, if you call DirecTV you will have to lease it, but you could buy one off of ebay and own it. You would also need the 'new' style dish to support the extra channels.





I've got the new dish and an HD receiver now. I just don't have HD-DVR. I should check into that.

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Has anyone tried HD-DVR with DirecTV? Is it possible to lease the box, or do you have to buy one?




I have an HR10-250. OTA HD for locals, satellite HD for a limited number of other channels (HBO, TNT, etc.). Its a true TiVo with TiVo software which is a plus. I own it, and you can still buy one them on ebay. If you are in to hacking your stuff, you can do 'cool stuff' with a true TiVo like upgrade the HDD on your own, do digital extraction over ethernet, etc.

My brother in law, dad, and a few other friends have gone to the HR20-700. You get all of the locals and the other channels in HD over the satellite. Its made by DirecTV and is not a true 'TiVo', which means its the proprietary DirecTV software. There are differences and each of them has complained about problems with the functionality and stability of the boxes. As far as I know, if you call DirecTV you will have to lease it, but you could buy one off of ebay and own it. You would also need the 'new' style dish to support the extra channels.




I've got the new dish and an HD receiver now. I just don't have HD-DVR. I should check into that.




Since you aren't coverting from Tivo to the HR20, you probably won't notice or care about the functionality differences. As far as the stability of the box, you might want to use pravata's google to see what you are up against.

My friend has already sent two back. And, of course, while they shipped one out he was without TV and lost his recordings...
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« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2006, 05:51:38 pm »
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Since you aren't coverting from Tivo to the HR20, you probably won't notice or care about the functionality differences. As far as the stability of the box, you might want to use pravata's google to see what you are up against.

My friend has already sent two back. And, of course, while they shipped one out he was without TV and lost his recordings...





I've got an SD Tivo unit as well as a non-DVR HD receiver. But I'm not going to pay DirecTV $299 to upgrade, which is apparently what they want for an HD DVR.

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« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2006, 07:50:29 pm »
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How much bigger is the hard drive on the Time Warner HD DVR box? And you say it doesn't count any more than the standard DVR box?

I intend to go the HD route after the first of the year,




I have an HD DVR from Time Warner.  I've never filled it, even though the HD shows must be huge files to store.  It does default to auto-erase a recording after 14 days which helps keep things a little cleaner, but you can change that to a shorter erase time, longer or never (customisable per show).

I had shit-loads of HD soccer matches on there during the World Cup, and it never complained.




I've filled mine up before.  The latest DVR from Time Warner has a 160 GB hard drive.  That equates to 80 hours of standard definition programming, or up to 20 hours of HD programming.  If you get behind a few weeks of your weekly HD network programming and then record a few movies and sporting events, it can fill up.




The eSATA connection on the back of the TWC HD DVR is also active.  You need a external SATA drive with a SATA to eSATA cable (I got all of this from Fry's).  I added a 300 GB  external drive to mine, and I now have all kinds of space (I still have 46 (all HD prime-time shows) 1 hour shows that are still waiting to be watched, and it's only showing 88% full).  You have to connect the external drive before plugging the DVR in.  When it boots it will format the external drive and use the extra space (takes about 10 minutes).  The drive will only work with the DVR that was used to format it.  AVS Forum The Link has plenty of information about this and more- go to the HD section in the forums.