Author Topic: PSYCHO LYONS FIRED! Everything Going As Planned. (Read 8771 times)

Alkie · « **on:** October 14, 2006, 04:57:24 pm »

Apparently he said something insensitive about Lou Piniella's hispanic heritage (what?) last night.

Fired immediately.

Does anyone know what the fuck he said? We watched the game, but I don't remember this.

For those keeping score: it's ok to make fun of the blind on FOX, but not the Latinos.

Alkie · « **Reply #1 on:** October 14, 2006, 05:30:21 pm »

Wow.

In the second inning of Friday's game between Detroit and Oakland, Piniella talked about the success light-hitting A's infielder Marco Scutaro had in the first round of the playoffs. Piniella said that slugger Frank Thomas and Eric Chavez needed to contribute, comparing Scutaro's production to finding a "wallet on Friday" and hoping it happened again the next week.

Later, Piniella said the A's needed Thomas to get "en fuego" -- hot in Spanish -- because he was currently "frio" -- or cold. After Brennaman praised Piniella for being bilingual, Lyons spoke up.

Lyons said that Piniella was "hablaing Espanol" -- butchering the conjugation for the word "to speak" -- and added, "I still can't find my wallet."

"I don't understand him, and I don't want to sit too close to him now," Lyons continued.

Holly · « **Reply #2 on:** October 14, 2006, 06:13:25 pm »

Quote:

"I still can't find my wallet."

I bet he forgot to check that pair of pants he left at 1B.

Wait. Or was that pravata's pants? (where the heck ARE those anyhow?)

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #4 on:** October 14, 2006, 08:04:08 pm »

Would it be ironic to point out that Piniella is not Hispanic?

Alkie · « **Reply #5 on:** October 14, 2006, 08:10:40 pm »

Which was why I said (what?) in my first post.

I looked it up. He's not even a little Hispanic.

Hey, who cares. Psycho is gone.

JimR · « **Reply #10 on:** October 15, 2006, 01:18:05 pm »

if that is all there is, the stated reason is bs. it may not be funny, but it sure as hell is not anti-anything.

Alkie · « **Reply #11 on:** October 15, 2006, 02:26:13 pm »

Suggesting that people that speak Spanish would steal his wallet isn't offensive?

JimR · « **Reply #12 on:** October 15, 2006, 03:47:31 pm »

that is not even close to what he said. he was teasing Pinella, who is/was his broadcast partner. the two comments of both men were in the same conversation but were totally unrelated.

if i accuse you of alcoholism because of your nickname, is that an anti-Semitic statement?

he should have been fired for being incompetent but not for those stupid comments.

juliogotay · « **Reply #13 on:** October 15, 2006, 09:53:22 pm »

I agree with Jim. While I have no idea what he was trying to say, it sounds like typical Lyons babble. I dont think for a minute there was anything malicious in what he said.It was just dumb.

homer · « **Reply #14 on:** October 15, 2006, 10:06:38 pm »

As a person that owns a wallet, I was offended.

otterj · « **Reply #15 on:** October 15, 2006, 10:42:44 pm »

Lyons is definitely a blabbering anti-wallet-ite. Probably an anti-dentite too.

Alkie · « **Reply #16 on:** October 15, 2006, 10:48:53 pm »

Maybe we can get McCarver to say something anti-wallet.

otterj · « **Reply #17 on:** October 16, 2006, 12:09:59 am »

Every time McCarver says something really obvious or really wrong, Deion Sanders should pop up behind him and dump freezing ice water on him, like he did back in the day. Ratings would skyrocket.

JimR · « **Reply #21 on:** October 16, 2006, 09:45:34 am »

exactly, and not "almost."

S.P. Rodriguez · « **Reply #22 on:** October 16, 2006, 10:13:39 am »

Apparently this comment was more of a "final straw". Lyons reportedly made another insenstive comment and was warned earlier in the playoffs. I can't find a clear explanation of what he said about Green but here's the reference from the ESPN article:

"Hired when Fox began broadcasting baseball in 1996, Lyons was suspended without pay in late September 2004 after his remarks about Shawn Green of the Los Angeles Dodgers. Green is Jewish and elected not to play one of the two games at San Francisco that took place during the Yom Kippur holiday.

The network apologized for Lyons' remarks at the time.

Earlier in the playoffs, while working the Mets-Dodgers NLDS, Lyons unwittingly made fun of a nearly blind fan who was wearing special glasses to see the game.

"He's got a digital camera stuck to his face," Lyons said.

Lyons

Either way, it seems stupid but not enough to get some one fired unless he was doing something else off camera that has him on "super secret probation".

pravata · « **Reply #25 on:** October 16, 2006, 11:15:16 am »

Lyons said: "My joke was about a wallet. It had nothing to do with race. We were all laughing at the time. I'm being painted as a victimizer of Lou. At dinner later (with Fox announcers and production staffers), we all thought it was one of our better exchanges."

There's the real reason, not FOX's reason maybe, but the critics were getting increasingly pointed about Lyons. That he thought that garbage was "better" or even an "exchange" is embarassing. Even FOX can only take so much ridicule. But, here is even better news, next season

"Fox will not carry any first-round playoff games and just one LCS rather than the current two"
The Link

MusicMan · « **Reply #26 on:** October 16, 2006, 01:25:10 pm »

Did anyone else hear the Miami Hurricane's TV commentator during that brawl this weekend?

790 played the clip this morning, and as guys were kicking each other on the field, this moron/former player says "That's right, baby! You gotta know that when you're coming into our house, you're gonna get the beat down!" He then talked about wanted to go down there and help.

Please, PLEASE tell me this guy was fired even faster than Lyons (who I won't miss, even a little bit.)

austro · « **Reply #27 on:** October 16, 2006, 01:33:37 pm »

I like Coker this morning: "I do have a grip on this program. Don't ever doubt that. Don't ever doubt that." Right.

If you want to eliminate this kind of behavior from your football team, you might start by not recruiting kids that think being a gangsta is a badge of honor.

MusicMan · « **Reply #30 on:** October 16, 2006, 02:11:56 pm »

What a despicable human being.

He's a perfect announcer for the most contemptible "university" in the world.

JimR · « **Reply #31 on:** October 16, 2006, 02:46:43 pm »

that's the main reason i was glad Brown kicked Ramonce Taylor off the UT team.

MusicMan · « **Reply #32 on:** October 16, 2006, 03:01:58 pm »

Amen.

RT would have made a big difference against the Buckeyes, but Mack rightly brought the hammer.

Thug U, on the other hand, takes the bold stance of one game suspensions against... Duke.

JimR · « **Reply #33 on:** October 16, 2006, 03:03:18 pm »

and he brought the hammer the second day of spring training. the later drug incident was just dirt on the grave.

otterj · « **Reply #37 on:** October 16, 2006, 03:35:47 pm »

Yup

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #38 on:** October 16, 2006, 04:42:51 pm »

He'll be "disciplined" in some way.

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #41 on:** October 17, 2006, 01:42:12 am »

Fired.

Outlawscotty · « **Reply #44 on:** October 18, 2006, 09:23:55 am »

Can't find a link, but read in SA Express this morning that Lyons was retained for local Dodgers broadcasts with Charlie Steiner, AND that Pineilla did defend him when asked about it. Still looking for a link though.

Found it:
Dodgers retain Lyons

He must go through diversity training though? How about a simple broadcasting class?

Froback · « **Reply #45 on:** October 18, 2006, 11:06:17 am »

Just because we know what people should do, doesn't mean we ourselves can do it.

So to is it true that just because they could play baseball well, doesn't mean they know how to communicate baseball well to others.

Otherwise all coaches and mangers would be ex-ML baseball players.

How many of the best color commentary guys are actually former MLB players (especially good MLB players)?

JimR · « **Reply #51 on:** October 18, 2006, 12:19:37 pm »

that is so true. i did color with Mike Capps during the 2000 Express season, and it is not as easy as perhaps it looks to some. i wanted to sound like i knew baseball, of course, but my major goal was to blend in with Mike and to avoid "stepping on" his words. you have to develop a rhythym with the pbp guy and learn how he does things and when. then, you have to rid yourself of speech patterns, like "uh" or rambling or changing thoughts in mid-sentence, that are annoying and waste time. finally, you must watch the game and be ready to add something pertinent when the pbp guy wants/expects you to talk. i liked to talk about why things were happening rather than just re-describing a play that Mike already had described. trying to predict what would happen was fun, too, especially when it did happen.

it was one of the most fun things i have ever done, and it was challenging. i got compliments from folks i do not know, which was flattering, and i think by mid-season Mike and i worked well together. unfortunately, they did not ask me to do it a second year. the stated reason was that the Ryans wanted ex-MLB players only as color guys, but maybe they did not like something about me or did not think having a HS coach in the booth was impressive enough.

because of that year, the only thing that i criticise about color guys is stupid "analysis." see Lyons, Steve.

JimR · « **Reply #54 on:** October 18, 2006, 01:30:12 pm »

thanks, Bob. i think Dressendorfer generally is pretty good, but i also think Ruffin and Owen were brutal. of course, they were MLB so....

Alkie · « **Reply #61 on:** October 18, 2006, 04:10:27 pm »

Maguire is awful for the college games, and it doesn't help that he is sharing the booth with that knuckledragging Griese.

As for the old team being "so awful" you're just looking for problems. They were funny, worked well with each other, and were entertaining. The new cast is difficult to listen to because it sounds like they hate each other. Also, Michelle Tafoya may know her stuff, keep from stumbling over her words, and do research, but let's be honest, I want a sideline reporter I can pull one off to.

MusicMan · « **Reply #62 on:** October 18, 2006, 04:12:49 pm »

Well, we're on thee same page for sideline reporters, at least.

You could put Theisman with Howard Cosell and the Voice of God and it would still be terrible. It's very simple: he assumes the audience is stupid. The man contradicts himself within 5 seconds on a regular basis, and can't understand why he's made a laughingstock.

Alkie · « **Reply #63 on:** October 18, 2006, 04:15:13 pm »

TOTALLY agree with that. I just thought the 3 of them worked well together, mostly because Maguire would remind Joe what a moron he was.

Tafoya would be great in a lot of jobs, this isn't it.

Erin Andrews is a perfect example. She has no skills and can't get a sentence out without her brain exploding, but she has humongo garbonzos and looks like she'd be a fun way to spend 3 minutes.

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