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« on: August 04, 2006, 03:49:44 pm »
Didn't see this anywhere else on OWA, but Buster Olney is saying the Braves are deciding whether to keep him since he becomes a 5/10 (or is it 10/5?) guy on 8/15.  Could they be negotiating for a huge haul - they wanted Lester, Crisp and at least one other prospect from Boston - before he gets the upper hand?
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2006, 03:53:13 pm »
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Didn't see this anywhere else on OWA, but Buster Olney is saying the Braves are deciding whether to keep him since he becomes a 5/10 (or is it 10/5?) guy on 8/15.  Could they be negotiating for a huge haul - they wanted Lester, Crisp and at least one other prospect from Boston - before he gets the upper hand?




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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2006, 03:53:18 pm »
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2006, 04:03:44 pm »
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Yeah, thanks, I just saw it a few minutes ago.  Interesting that this is the only one Olney was talking about.  I know the wire is flooded every year, and that players are claimed then pulled routinely, but why would ESPN expect anything different is going on here?  Or are they just trying to create a story on an otherwise slow "news" day?

Olbermann is saying that if there's any truth to it the Braves are stupid and Schuerholz must have a gun to his head by his bosses.
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2006, 04:07:25 pm »
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Yeah, thanks, I just saw it a few minutes ago.  Interesting that this is the only one Olney was talking about.  I know the wire is flooded every year, and that players are claimed then pulled routinely, but why would ESPN expect anything different is going on here?  Or are they just trying to create a story on an otherwise slow "news" day?

Olbermann is saying that if there's any truth to it the Braves are stupid and Schuerholz must have a gun to his head by his bosses.





Seems a slow news day.  Anyone who has experience with post Deadline baseball knows this is sop.  As for the Braves' bosses, see The Link

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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2006, 04:07:46 pm »
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Yeah, thanks, I just saw it a few minutes ago.  Interesting that this is the only one Olney was talking about.  I know the wire is flooded every year, and that players are claimed then pulled routinely, but why would ESPN expect anything different is going on here?  Or are they just trying to create a story on an otherwise slow "news" day?

Olbermann is saying that if there's any truth to it the Braves are stupid and Schuerholz must have a gun to his head by his bosses.





Two years ago, Jayson Start wrote that the Astros had put Roger Clemens and Jeff Kent on the waiver wire and that several teams, including the Boston Red Sox made claims on both.

Houston simply pulled them back.  So why the report?  Because both Clemens and Kent were in the last year of their contract and one can extrapolate that maybe... just maybe... the club is thinking about dealing those players.

It is worth a shot to speculate just in case the blind squirrel did find an acorn.

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Yeah, thanks, I just saw it a few minutes ago.  Interesting that this is the only one Olney was talking about.  I know the wire is flooded every year, and that players are claimed then pulled routinely, but why would ESPN expect anything different is going on here?  Or are they just trying to create a story on an otherwise slow "news" day?

Olbermann is saying that if there's any truth to it the Braves are stupid and Schuerholz must have a gun to his head by his bosses.




Two years ago, Jayson Start wrote that the Astros had put Roger Clemens and Jeff Kent on the waiver wire and that several teams, including the Boston Red Sox made claims on both.

Houston simply pulled them back.  So why the report?  Because both Clemens and Kent were in the last year of their contract and one can extrapolate that maybe... just maybe... the club is thinking about dealing those players.

It is worth a shot to speculate just in case the blind squirrel did find an acorn.


Fair enough, but they sure go all out with "Now for some breaking news, let's bring in ESPN Insider Buster Olney to share his completely baseless, misleading and disingenuous story about a big time star possibly being dealt!" fanfare.  Except their version doesn't include that last part.
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2006, 04:17:41 pm »
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Yeah, thanks, I just saw it a few minutes ago.  Interesting that this is the only one Olney was talking about.  I know the wire is flooded every year, and that players are claimed then pulled routinely, but why would ESPN expect anything different is going on here?  Or are they just trying to create a story on an otherwise slow "news" day?

Olbermann is saying that if there's any truth to it the Braves are stupid and Schuerholz must have a gun to his head by his bosses.




Two years ago, Jayson Start wrote that the Astros had put Roger Clemens and Jeff Kent on the waiver wire and that several teams, including the Boston Red Sox made claims on both.

Houston simply pulled them back.  So why the report?  Because both Clemens and Kent were in the last year of their contract and one can extrapolate that maybe... just maybe... the club is thinking about dealing those players.

It is worth a shot to speculate just in case the blind squirrel did find an acorn.




You know, the sportswriting community's attempt to "scoop" the next big deal reminds me of those seagulls in "Finding Nemo" (sorry, my 3 yr old is obsessed with Nemo so that movie is viewed regularly in my house).  Any indication of food and they all start repeating "Mine, Mine, Mine, Mine".  Meanwhile, they cover their immediate surroundings in their own shit.  It's pretty sad, not just that sports writers are that stupid but that it's become entertainment to watch them do so.  I'm ashamed of myself for falling into this trap, even if I didn't find it entertaining.  I must go beat myself until I am unconscious or the self-loathing subsides, which ever comes first.
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2006, 04:26:57 pm »
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Seems a slow news day.


 

Slow news day, huh?  I've heard at least two ESPNRadio hosts insist that the Yankees and Dodgers are on a roll now because of the trade deadline moves, and that the Red Sox are not (what are they, 2-1?) and the Angels are reeling because they didn't "do anything."  When a 3-game sample size yields that much predictive value, now that's NEWS!
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2006, 04:28:30 pm »
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Slow news day, huh?  I've heard at least two ESPNRadio hosts insist that the Yankees and Dodgers are on a roll now because of the trade deadline moves, and that the Red Sox are not (what are they, 2-1?) and the Angels are reeling because they didn't "do anything."  When a 3-game sample size yields that much predictive value, now that's NEWS!




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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2006, 04:46:52 pm »
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Didn't see this anywhere else on OWA, but Buster Olney is saying the Braves are deciding whether to keep him since he becomes a 5/10 (or is it 10/5?) guy on 8/15.  Could they be negotiating for a huge haul - they wanted Lester, Crisp and at least one other prospect from Boston - before he gets the upper hand?




Given the rules, Houston would likely have been the 1st team in line when the claim was determined.  If they did put in a claim.

Houston seems to have non-40 man players to make up a package: Pence, Patton, House, Pequero, Barzilla, Estrada, Ash, Fairchild, Martinez, etc.  Patton would likely be part of the asking price I would think.  

The Astros could probably get Lane, Wilson, Jimerson, Astacio, Q & Sampson though waivers.

What would be a reasonable price to give?
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2006, 04:57:38 pm »
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Slow news day, huh?  I've heard at least two ESPNRadio hosts insist that the Yankees and Dodgers are on a roll now because of the trade deadline moves, and that the Red Sox are not (what are they, 2-1?) and the Angels are reeling because they didn't "do anything."  When a 3-game sample size yields that much predictive value, now that's NEWS!




They can't wait till football season, when every game is the end of the world and the best part is that they don't play another one for a week so you have 6 whole days to do nothing but talk about it.  Baseball mentality should be different. These boys should've watched their dads play cards.  Learn something about highs and lows.

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Yeah, thanks, I just saw it a few minutes ago.  Interesting that this is the only one Olney was talking about.  I know the wire is flooded every year, and that players are claimed then pulled routinely, but why would ESPN expect anything different is going on here?  Or are they just trying to create a story on an otherwise slow "news" day?

Olbermann is saying that if there's any truth to it the Braves are stupid and Schuerholz must have a gun to his head by his bosses.




Two years ago, Jayson Start wrote that the Astros had put Roger Clemens and Jeff Kent on the waiver wire and that several teams, including the Boston Red Sox made claims on both.

Houston simply pulled them back.  So why the report?  Because both Clemens and Kent were in the last year of their contract and one can extrapolate that maybe... just maybe... the club is thinking about dealing those players.

It is worth a shot to speculate just in case the blind squirrel did find an acorn.


Fair enough, but they sure go all out with "Now for some breaking news, let's bring in ESPN Insider Buster Olney to share his completely baseless, misleading and disingenuous story about a big time star possibly being dealt!" fanfare.  Except their version doesn't include that last part.




I am so sick of this Red Sox shit. Every rumor has that player going to the Red Sox. Olney, Stark and Verducci have a hard on for this team. Now they are mad because Drayton woudnt trade Clemens to the Red Sox. Do the Sox have first choice on every player or is it another BS story of the Sox getting Jones because thats what they dream about as little boys. These booger eaters need to get away from their desks and except the fact that there is like a whole other world out there.

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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2006, 09:32:32 am »
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if someone didnt enjoy Finding Nemo, they just didnt have a soul to begin with.





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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2006, 03:52:46 pm »
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Given the rules, Houston would likely have been the 1st team in line when the claim was determined.  If they did put in a claim.

Houston seems to have non-40 man players to make up a package: Pence, Patton, House, Pequero, Barzilla, Estrada, Ash, Fairchild, Martinez, etc.  Patton would likely be part of the asking price I would think.  

The Astros could probably get Lane, Wilson, Jimerson, Astacio, Q & Sampson though waivers.

What would be a reasonable price to give?





Hadn't seen this anywhere else here, but Baseball Prospectus' Will Carroll says it was indeed the Astros who "had the prevailing claim on him." That surprised me a little, that no one else would have made a claim before Houston (assuming he's right).

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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2006, 04:24:52 pm »
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Given the rules, Houston would likely have been the 1st team in line when the claim was determined.  If they did put in a claim.

Houston seems to have non-40 man players to make up a package: Pence, Patton, House, Pequero, Barzilla, Estrada, Ash, Fairchild, Martinez, etc.  Patton would likely be part of the asking price I would think.  

The Astros could probably get Lane, Wilson, Jimerson, Astacio, Q & Sampson though waivers.

What would be a reasonable price to give?





Hadn't seen this anywhere else here, but Baseball Prospectus' Will Carroll says it was indeed the Astros who "had the prevailing claim on him." That surprised me a little, that no one else would have made a claim before Houston (assuming he's right).

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