Author Topic: Another Stros problem (Read 6939 times)

Colt 45 · « **on:** August 03, 2006, 12:37:28 am »

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stubbyc · « **Reply #1 on:** August 03, 2006, 12:41:05 am »

Uh oh

loganck · « **Reply #2 on:** August 03, 2006, 12:41:06 am »

Taveras is not one of the worst hitters in the NL.

Matt · « **Reply #3 on:** August 03, 2006, 01:10:52 am »

This is gonna be fun!

Ankh · « **Reply #4 on:** August 03, 2006, 01:23:10 am »

Already discussed here: link.

As for your criticism of Garner in general, you've got to be kidding.

tophfar · « **Reply #5 on:** August 03, 2006, 01:38:47 am »

return of the clarks?

this one is going to get ugly in the morning.

Alkie · « **Reply #6 on:** August 03, 2006, 01:52:56 am »

Might I recommend astrosdaily.com, where there are other people that have no idea what they're talking about and who think Phil Garner has ANYTHING to do with the Astros' record thus far this season?

Honestly, if you think GAR is the problem, this place ain't for you.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #7 on:** August 03, 2006, 01:54:58 am »

Quote:

Already discussed here: link.

As for your criticism of Garner in general, you've got to be kidding.

Anyone should have known that Everett would pop that bunt up in that situation. Sheesh!

JimR · « **Reply #8 on:** August 03, 2006, 01:59:25 am »

fuck off and go away.

seib22 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 03, 2006, 02:11:24 am »

wait....i was under the impression that the Astros won last night?

astrox · « **Reply #14 on:** August 03, 2006, 08:53:34 am »

I've shown my ass just as you do here. After an Astros win vs. the Cubs where Pierre stole 4 bases, I had to start a "Yeah we won but..." thread aimed at Ausmus' apparent inability to throw runners out at a good enough clip. I was rightfully put in my place. Perhaps you should take the good advice of those here to "read more and post less." Or go back to AstrosDaily.

And on a side note, boy did Piazza struggle. I bitched about Ausmus' CS%, Piazza's was like 0.98 or some shit like that. WOW. Any bets that Piazza and Walker don't play today?

Alkie · « **Reply #16 on:** August 03, 2006, 09:53:46 am »

That tagline is silly, but I have to give Barzilla credit where credit is due. He's the only person in that thread that makes sense.

Alkie · « **Reply #19 on:** August 03, 2006, 10:33:46 am »

Look, if you want to go line by line trying to tag the guy, go ahead, I'm just saying if you read the thread, he's the only voice of reason. Just giving him credit for that.

Alkie · « **Reply #20 on:** August 03, 2006, 10:40:03 am »

Phil Garner is CLEARLY less-than-average.

In one and a half seasons, he has taken a team that never won a playoff series to the NLCS (in a season in which they were 'dead' when he took over) and to the World Fucking Series (perhaps you've heard of it).

This kind of record is generally indicative of a manager who is less-than-average.

Or maybe the problem isn't the less-than-average manager, but the less-than-average poster.

Anybody that argues that Everett should have been doing anything but bunting in that situation, or that leaving in a 44 year old pitcher instead of putting in someone who had been, up to that point, THE BEST RELIEVER IN THE GAME OF BASEBALL OVER THE PREVIOUS MONTH, is a casual baseball fan at best; and an asshole at worst.

jasonact · « **Reply #21 on:** August 03, 2006, 10:46:28 am »

You make at least 2 faulty assumptions:
1. You assume that the manager makes ALL of the calls. Sometimes a player does something on their own. Sometimes even when the manager makes the call, the player does not execute (as I think has been the case much of the time this season).
2. You assume that if Garner had made the "correct" move, the outcome would have been better. Regardless of what the manager calls for, the players must execute, which they have not done for most of the season. Also, I LOVE that Garner is not afraid to do odd things to find what works. The offense has been underperforming big time, and Garner is trying to find something that works. That often means making unconventional moves, many of which will not work. But until the hitters start producing, there's not a whole lot he can do from the bench.

Personally, I think Garner is a great manager. The only reason he is getting so much criticism is because the team isn't doing well, but it's not because of Garner.

Alkie · « **Reply #24 on:** August 03, 2006, 11:00:21 am »

First time at OrangeWhoopass?

Alkie · « **Reply #26 on:** August 03, 2006, 11:05:35 am »

Not familiar with "sarcasm" yet?

Did you really think chuck was suggesting that Biggio is in the lineup to hit HRs on the road?

Alkie · « **Reply #29 on:** August 03, 2006, 11:16:50 am »

Is this like yesterday, when you tried to convince me that with almost 60 games to go, it's better to be 4 games out with 7 teams ahead of you than 5 games out with 3 teams ahead of you?

Go back and read it again. He's making a tongue-in-cheek joke, see, about Barzilla suggesting that the Astros players are "using up their luck." See, he's "joking" that Biggio "used up his Barzilla luck points" last night with the 2 jobby jobs.

jasonact · « **Reply #31 on:** August 03, 2006, 11:24:52 am »

Admittedly, my sarcasm meter is very weak when online when I don't know the person very well, but given the way many people worship the HR, I didn't think it unreasonable to think someone would post that.

And about the standings thing, I stand by my post. At the end of the season, it doesn't matter if there are 10 teams ahead of the Astros or only one. If they aren't in first, I want the team in first to lose. No other team matters.

Alkie · « **Reply #32 on:** August 03, 2006, 11:27:56 am »

Ok, but you do understand that before you can jump the team 7 places ahead of you, you have to just the other 6 teams individually first, right? You don't magically jump 4 teams because the team 7 places ahead of you lost.

S.P. Rodriguez · « **Reply #34 on:** August 03, 2006, 12:37:46 pm »

No offense intended but I thought it was guaranteed that everything Alkie posts includes at least a slight amount of sarcasm. Is this incorrect?

Alkie · « **Reply #35 on:** August 03, 2006, 12:39:01 pm »

I don't even know what sarcasm IS.

pravata · « **Reply #36 on:** August 03, 2006, 12:40:41 pm »

I only have one question about this, who is Jack Sparrow?

WulawHorn · « **Reply #46 on:** August 03, 2006, 02:29:02 pm »

I posted long ago, in mid may, that I didn't see any way the stros would make the playoffs as a wild card winner, I thought the division was the only shot.

I argued that someone of the 8 team scrum would play well like the astros did in 04 and 05 and the stros best chance was probably to catch the cards. Little did I know that the entire national league would suck for an entire four months.

It's shocking to me how bad everyone in the National league is. I'm starting to believe 85-87 wins might make the wild card winner. Bad, bad league, and I think the astros have the best potential from every team left in the derby to play well. I think as distasteful as it is we need to root more or less every day for the Cards, Mets, Padres, Cubs, Pirates and Nationals. It is stagerring to me that 13 or so teams still have a legit chance to go to the playoffs (everyone but the cubs, pirooots and Nats I would say).

Weird

pravata · « **Reply #48 on:** August 03, 2006, 03:03:35 pm »

AZ started today half game back of the Reds, right now they're up 6-0 on the Cubs. 1st game of a doubleheader.

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