Author Topic: Ausmus (Read 5474 times)

astrox · « **on:** June 15, 2006, 07:05:06 pm »

Of all qualified Catchers, Ausmus is the worst at caught stealing percentage at a lowly .133, but 5th in fielding percent at .995. Today was a prime example of teams picking up on that with Pierre stealing 4 bases. If it weren't the Cubs, those stolen bases would have been very hard to overcome.

Everyone always raves about his defense and that offense from your catcher isn't what you're looking for, well now he's got great offensive production but his defense is sucking.

MusicMan · « **Reply #1 on:** June 15, 2006, 07:08:24 pm »

Who wants the first swing at this pinata?

Please limit your destruction of this post to one of three points:

1. New thread for existing discussion
2. Poor use of statistics
3. Lack of understanding of a catcher's "defense"

drew corleone · « **Reply #2 on:** June 15, 2006, 07:09:44 pm »

Yawn.

Call me when Aramis Ramirez steals four bases.

astrox · « **Reply #3 on:** June 15, 2006, 07:16:16 pm »

Quote:

Who wants the first swing at this pinata?

Please limit your destruction of this post to one of three points:

1. New thread for existing discussion
2. Poor use of statistics
3. Lack of understanding of a catcher's "defense"

1. Failed to see existing discussion
2. So his poor CS%, is of no importance?
3. Should have clarified, not that it would have mattereed. My main point was that with poor CS% but pretty good fielding percent mixed in with how he calls a great game makes it frustrating to know what to do. On top of all that, he is having a great year offensively.

Or something like that.

Arky Vaughan · « **Reply #4 on:** June 15, 2006, 07:16:58 pm »

The Astros are middle of the pack in OBP allowed at .333, i.e., they have an average number of baserunners:

The Link

They're middle of the pack in stolen bases allowed, at 35:

The Link

They're toward the bottom of the pack in caught stealing, at 10:

The Link

So, despite having a roughly average number of baserunners, and not throwing out that many, they're still not that bad off in allowing stolen bases.

Ausmus isn't what he once was, but something, perhaps his reputation, is keeping the Astros from being overwhelmed with stolen bases.

toddthebod · « **Reply #6 on:** June 15, 2006, 07:21:35 pm »

Arky. In addition to Ausmus' reputation, Pettite has a pretty good pickoff move so you probably won't have a lot of stolen base attempts when he pitchers. What distubed me over the past few days is that the Cubs were able to steal on a pickoff last night and today on a pitch out.

It seems that when we are talking about Ausmus' defensive abilities these days, we are largely referring to his ability to call a game, to calm down pitchers, and to block balls in the dirt (although with respect to the latter it appears like his skills are diminished as well).

JimR · « **Reply #8 on:** June 15, 2006, 07:31:16 pm »

you are showing your ass, but i'll bet you do that often.

todd, you've been almost sane for quite a while, but that post is nuts.

sports fans, runners steal on pitchers.

toddthebod · « **Reply #11 on:** June 15, 2006, 09:02:58 pm »

Jim. Am I missing something? Do you think that Ausmus is as good at blocking pitches as he was a couple of years ago? Just based on watching him, I don't think he is.

So what are his other defensive skills? He's never been great at blocking the plate. And he isn't as adept at throwing out runners as he once was. I agree that players steal off of pitchers, but are you suggesting that his pitchers were so much better at holding runners when Ausmus was throwing out runners at a 40%+ clip?

Ausmus is what he is. He's smart. He calls a great game. And the pitchers love and trust him. That's pretty good.

Reuben · « **Reply #12 on:** June 15, 2006, 09:31:53 pm »

I understand he's pretty handsome too.

JimR · « **Reply #13 on:** June 15, 2006, 09:58:47 pm »

yes, you are missing something. a lot. i cannot understand it for you and will not try.

he is fantastic at blocking pitches in the dirt. he does not block the plate in the traditional way, but he get the outs. i do not know about his CS % and do not care. if the pitchers were better at holding runners, his % would be better. Pierre will steal on everyone.

what would you complain about if everything were perfect? a thread like this makes absolutely no sense to me.

jaklewein · « **Reply #14 on:** June 16, 2006, 12:41:34 am »

and to block balls in the dirt (although with respect to the latter it appears like his skills are diminished as well).

I've seen nothing of the sort. I did see Ausmus try and backhand a ball...and miss it horribly...and there was actually a runner on first that advanced. This was a couple weeks ago (IIRC), and I was stunned. Why stunned? Because it was the first time I've ever seen him try that with a runner on. Even Ausmus can fuck up every once and awhile. I'm absolutely thrilled with his play this season, even if he is all washed up (wink, wink).

Trey · « **Reply #16 on:** June 16, 2006, 10:19:05 am »

Wait. So, I know this sounds crazy, but you mean, baserunners think he's good. So the only ones that try to steal are the fast guys? And so, like, it's harder to throw them out. Or something. Is that it?

Or, as someone else said above, "wake me up when Aramis Ramirez steals 4 bases."

JimR · « **Reply #18 on:** June 16, 2006, 10:35:14 am »

how on earth do you know without more analysis than reciting a number?

1. who is stealing the bases--legitimate base stealers or are entire teams running?
2. how many were on pitchouts or easily handled fastballs?
3. what pitch did the pitcher throw on the steal--fastball or offspeed or breaking pitch?
4. where was the pitch--in a spot where the catcher could easily catch and throw or in a spot where he had to lunge or throw off-balace?
5. were any of the pitches in the dirt or wild pitches?
6. did the infielder mishandle an otherwise good throw?
7. did the hitter impede the throw in some way?
8. how many of the base stealers scored after stealing the base?
9. what was the score at the time of the steal?
10. did the first and third defensive call dictate that no throw be made to second?
11. how well did the pitcher hold the runner to prevent a good jump?

the CS% does not, in and of itself, mean bad defense.

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #21 on:** June 16, 2006, 10:48:20 am »

Way to muddy up that crystal clear water, Jim.

JimR · « **Reply #23 on:** June 16, 2006, 11:27:16 am »

i'll say again that i never understand threads like this. Ausmus wins a game with the clutchest of clutch hits so some yahoo starts a "yeah, but his defense sucks" thread.

MusicMan · « **Reply #26 on:** June 16, 2006, 11:48:14 am »

8 of 9 and the Royals coming to town.

Enjoy the ride, folks.

homer · « **Reply #34 on:** June 17, 2006, 10:06:50 pm »

Brownie reported tonight that Officer Brad showed up early today for the second day in a row to work on his throws to second.

D.WARD · « **Reply #35 on:** June 17, 2006, 10:42:12 pm »

U FOO! What the heck are you trying to start? Pierre is probably the fastest person in baseball. I think our pitchers need to learn to keep the runners closer. I don't know about everyone else, but I'm glad Ausmus is on our team.

NeilT · « **Reply #37 on:** June 19, 2006, 12:11:52 am »

well you should know. Passing as a gay male just so you could stuff the ballot. Despicable.

Reuben · « **Reply #38 on:** June 19, 2006, 01:22:35 pm »

That's not so surprising- if you notice, Brad was the #1 seed in that bracket. If he'd lost to the #16 seed it would've been a huge upset.

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