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[astrojo]

Astros close to acquiring Carlos Lee for Jason Hirsch?

I have not seen anything on it, so it's probably bogus. Just wondering if anyone has heard anything.

[rifraft]

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Astros close to acquiring Carlos Lee for Jason Hirsch?

I have not seen anything on it, so it's probably bogus. Just wondering if anyone has heard anything.

you're telling us about a rumored deal you got off a cards board?  i think that is like relaying information you got from RJ.
but if that's the deal, i do that in a heart beat.

[pravata]

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Astros close to acquiring Carlos Lee for Jason Hirsch?

I have not seen anything on it, so it's probably bogus. Just wondering if anyone has heard anything.

Lets walk through this, can you provide a link or at least the title of the thread on the Cards board where you saw this?

[astrojo]

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Astros close to acquiring Carlos Lee for Jason Hirsch?

I have not seen anything on it, so it's probably bogus. Just wondering if anyone has heard anything.

you're telling us about a rumored deal you got off a cards board?  i think that is like relaying information you got from RJ.
but if that's the deal, i do that in a heart beat.

I believe Justice and Ortiz would be the LAST to know what the Astros were up to. Cards forum posters could be the next to last, which is why I DID say it was probably bogus and a RUMOR.

[astrojo]

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Astros close to acquiring Carlos Lee for Jason Hirsch?

I have not seen anything on it, so it's probably bogus. Just wondering if anyone has heard anything.

Lets walk through this, can you provide a link or at least the title of the thread on the Cards board where you saw this?

The Link

[pravata]

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Astros close to acquiring Carlos Lee for Jason Hirsch?

I have not seen anything on it, so it's probably bogus. Just wondering if anyone has heard anything.

you're telling us about a rumored deal you got off a cards board?  i think that is like relaying information you got from RJ.
but if that's the deal, i do that in a heart beat.

I believe Justice and Ortiz would be the LAST to know what the Astros were up to. Cards forum posters could be the next to last, which is why I DID say it was probably bogus and a RUMOR.

Probably? Never mind, you're unreliable.  Heres the link The Link Nitwits posting crap with no backup on the internet is not a rumor, it's crap. This Rebel clown says that Burke is "day to day".  I've seen no confirmation of that.  And, I was at the game today, it's highly unlikely he's "day to day". (edit) here it is, "day to day" The Link

[astrojo]

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Astros close to acquiring Carlos Lee for Jason Hirsch?

I have not seen anything on it, so it's probably bogus. Just wondering if anyone has heard anything.

you're telling us about a rumored deal you got off a cards board?  i think that is like relaying information you got from RJ.
but if that's the deal, i do that in a heart beat.

I believe Justice and Ortiz would be the LAST to know what the Astros were up to. Cards forum posters could be the next to last, which is why I DID say it was probably bogus and a RUMOR.

Probably? Never mind, you're unreliable.  Heres the link The Link Nitwits posting crap with no backup on the internet is not a rumor, it's crap. This Rebel clown says that Burke is "day to day".  I've seen no confirmation of that.  And, I was at the game today, it's highly unlikely he's "day to day". (edit) here it is, "day to day" The Link  

Unreliable? Okay.

But here is confirmation of Burke's status as day-to-day.

The Link

[VirtualBob]

Unreliable? Okay.

But here is confirmation of Burke's status as day-to-day.

The Link



He'll be "day-to-day" only as long as it takes to process the paperwork and put him on the DL.  Anyone who was actually at the game and saw the whole thing (not just the ESPN clip) will likely agree.  I hope we see Hobbs again and that the third time will be the charm.

[NeilT]

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Unreliable? Okay.

But here is confirmation of Burke's status as day-to-day.

The Link



He'll be "day-to-day" only as long as it takes to process the paperwork and put him on the DL.  Anyone who was actually at the game and saw the whole thing (not just the ESPN clip) will likely agree.  I hope we see Hobbs again and that the third time will be the charm.



The first report on the radio was a subluxation, which I gather is a mild dislocation followed immediately by the shoulder popping back in.  The quoted report--the one Pravata couldn't bother to read before he reached the dark side of bipolar--says the shoulder was dislocated, but also says there's not much to be done without surgery.

However bad it looked, if he's not going for surgery and there's no resulting pain, why would the day-to-day report not be true? If there was no additional damage, it's not something that will heal itself over time, and it's probably not something that will keep him from playing again fairly quickly.

There is a clip of the injury on the MLB site, linked to the article.  I can't make it run on my Apple, so it may not really exist.

[astro pete]

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He'll be "day-to-day" only as long as it takes to process the paperwork and put him on the DL.  Anyone who was actually at the game and saw the whole thing (not just the ESPN clip) will likely agree.  I hope we see Hobbs again and that the third time will be the charm.

Front-row diagnosis?

[MRaup]

I'll tell you from personal experience that, once it pops out, if it is already loose, you're going to have a pretty serious issue with weakness in the joint for at least a few days, and it usually takes about 5-10 before you feel really comfortable doing things that put stress on it... You know, like swinging a bat, raising your arm over your head, etc.

If Burke doesn't go on the DL, he'll be pinch running and late inning defense at best.

Swinging a bat can SERIOUSLY hurt.

[pravata]

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Unreliable? Okay.

But here is confirmation of Burke's status as day-to-day.

The Link



He'll be "day-to-day" only as long as it takes to process the paperwork and put him on the DL.  Anyone who was actually at the game and saw the whole thing (not just the ESPN clip) will likely agree.  I hope we see Hobbs again and that the third time will be the charm.



I had thought he was hit.  But he jumped up, Labossiere and Garner came out and he started swinging the bat.  They just looked at him, and after about 10 swings escorted him into the dugout and down the tunnel.  Burke was still holding the bat.  It doesn't seem like rest is going to help anything except reduce the swelling.  DL wont do any good. This is likely going to keep happening.  The Link

[toddthebod]

The trade is actually pretty intriguing from the Astros perspective, although I'm not quite sure why the Brewers would do it.  Seems to me that they have as much a chances as anyone in this division right now, particularly with Pooholes out.  Giving up Lee (a huge fan favorite in Milwaukee) for a prospect would be tantamount to quitting on the season, unless they think that Hirsh can come in right now and help with their starting pitching.  Sheets has started pitching again, but he's a real question mark.

[astro pete]

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I'll tell you from personal experience that, once it pops out, if it is already loose, you're going to have a pretty serious issue with weakness in the joint for at least a few days, and it usually takes about 5-10 before you feel really comfortable doing things that put stress on it... You know, like swinging a bat, raising your arm over your head, etc.

If Burke doesn't go on the DL, he'll be pinch running and late inning defense at best.

Swinging a bat can SERIOUSLY hurt.

The right tackle on my high school football team seriously dislocated his shoulder his sophomore year, ending his season prematurely.  By the time he was a senior, he dislocated the thing just about every other day.  We'd take turns in the huddle getting the joint back in place before the next play.  I don't know how badly it hurt, and I'm sure it diminished his ability, but I don't think he missed any time after the first dislocation.

I'm not going to pretend to be an expert; I'm just surprised someone is trying to diagnose the situation from his seat.

[Limey]

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I'm not going to pretend to be an expert; I'm just surprised someone is trying to diagnose the situation from his seat.

Just as likely to be correct as the crack Astros' medical staff.

[astro pete]

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Just as likely to be correct as the crack Astros' medical staff.

Ouch.

[Craig]

Here's another rumor: The Cards are about to acquire Second Place from the Reds.

[MikeyBoy]

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Here's another rumor: The Cards are about to acquire Second Place from the Reds.

For a Third Place to be named later.

[Taras Bulba]

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The trade is actually pretty intriguing from the Astros perspective, although I'm not quite sure why the Brewers would do it.  Seems to me that they have as much a chances as anyone in this division right now, particularly with Pooholes out.  Giving up Lee (a huge fan favorite in Milwaukee) for a prospect would be tantamount to quitting on the season, unless they think that Hirsh can come in right now and help with their starting pitching.  Sheets has started pitching again, but he's a real question mark.

I would be surprised if he is a Brewer beyond July 31st.

[Limey]

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Here's another rumor: The Cards are about to acquire Second Place from the Reds.

Home to the Cubs?  Babe Arroyo vs. Bum's Rusch?  3rds inactive?

Bingo!

[MRaup]

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I'll tell you from personal experience that, once it pops out, if it is already loose, you're going to have a pretty serious issue with weakness in the joint for at least a few days, and it usually takes about 5-10 before you feel really comfortable doing things that put stress on it... You know, like swinging a bat, raising your arm over your head, etc.

If Burke doesn't go on the DL, he'll be pinch running and late inning defense at best.

Swinging a bat can SERIOUSLY hurt.

The right tackle on my high school football team seriously dislocated his shoulder his sophomore year, ending his season prematurely.  By the time he was a senior, he dislocated the thing just about every other day.  We'd take turns in the huddle getting the joint back in place before the next play.  I don't know how badly it hurt, and I'm sure it diminished his ability, but I don't think he missed any time after the first dislocation.

I'm not going to pretend to be an expert; I'm just surprised someone is trying to diagnose the situation from his seat.

The problem is, you can get by in football, especially on the line, if you're savvy. Holding doesn't really require a lot of shoulder strength, as long as you've got quick feet.

Swinging a bat, on the othe hand, seriously torques the shoulder. I was lucky and never had serious problems during the baseball season with my shoulder, and the football strength coach understood that my ability to benchpress was seriously hampered.

Speaking from personal experience though, swinging a bat with your shoulder seperated is not an easy thing to do.

[strosrays]

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The trade is actually pretty intriguing from the Astros perspective, although I'm not quite sure why the Brewers would do it.  Seems to me that they have as much a chances as anyone in this division right now, particularly with Pooholes out.  Giving up Lee (a huge fan favorite in Milwaukee) for a prospect would be tantamount to quitting on the season, unless they think that Hirsh can come in right now and help with their starting pitching.  Sheets has started pitching again, but he's a real question mark.

OK, TTB, give it up.  You posted this rumor on the BFiB's board, right?  I knew it as soon as I saw it.

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Probably? Never mind, you're unreliable. Heres the link The Link Nitwits posting crap with no backup on the internet is not a rumor, it's crap.

Other rumors recently appearing on the BFiB board:

-The ghost of Jack Buck is seen shuffling around at the base of the Gateway Arch, sucking on a bottle of Gordon's Dry and gazing wistfully into the river

-Ann Coulter has a huge Adam's apple and is really a man, and is secretly a huge fan of Steve Earle

-Giant asteroid appears headed directly for Earth. Albert Pujols digs in at the plate

[No? in Austin]

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-Giant asteroid appears headed directly for Earth. Albert Pujols digs in at the plate

If that asteroid is middle/in, Poo-holes will destroy it with one swing.  He'll "Lidge" that meteroid!

[NeilT]

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The trade is actually pretty intriguing from the Astros perspective, although I'm not quite sure why the Brewers would do it.  Seems to me that they have as much a chances as anyone in this division right now, particularly with Pooholes out.  Giving up Lee (a huge fan favorite in Milwaukee) for a prospect would be tantamount to quitting on the season, unless they think that Hirsh can come in right now and help with their starting pitching.  Sheets has started pitching again, but he's a real question mark.

That's no Giant asteroid, it's Frankenbarry's head.

[Arky Vaughan]

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Here's another rumor: The Cards are about to acquire Second Place from the Reds.

Excellent. By the way, the new avatar is perfect.

[Craig]

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Here's another rumor: The Cards are about to acquire Second Place from the Reds.

Excellent. By the way, the new avatar is perfect.

Thanks. I took the picture in my backyard.

[Matt]

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If that asteroid is middle/in, Poo-holes will destroy it with one swing.  He'll "Lidge" that meteroid!

That asteroid will no longer be effective and it's career will be over.  Nothing ends the career of a talented global killing asteroid like Albert Poo Holes dancing in it's head.

[Limey]

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If that asteroid is middle/in, Poo-holes will destroy it with one swing.  He'll "Lidge" that meteroid!

But if it's too far in, Pooholes will pitch a hissy fit and La Genius will bolt out of the dugout to the defense of his main squeeze.

[No? in Austin]

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If that asteroid is middle/in, Poo-holes will destroy it with one swing.  He'll "Lidge" that meteroid!

But if it's too far in, Pooholes will pitch a hissy fit and La Genius will bolt out of the dugout to the defense of his main squeeze.

Nothing like a little chin music from the celestial realm!

[strosrays]

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If that asteroid is middle/in, Poo-holes will destroy it with one swing.  He'll "Lidge" that meteroid!

But if it's too far in, Pooholes will pitch a hissy fit and La Genius will bolt out of the dugout to the defense of his main squeeze.

Yeah, he'll charge the sun.

On the other hand, if Pujols can turn on the inside comet and drive it to somewhere in the vicinity of the Crab Nebula, he'll stand and watch it (remember, don't look directly at the sun) and then flip his bat and go into his trot.

[MusicMan]

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-Ann Coulter has a huge Adam's apple and is really a man,

Neither men nor women want to claim that waste of molecules.

[cc]

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-Ann Coulter has a huge Adam's apple and is really a man,

Neither men nor women want to claim that waste of molecules.

I think she's great usually.  Not sure what to think about her latest comments.

[cc]

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Unreliable? Okay.

But here is confirmation of Burke's status as day-to-day.

The Link



He'll be "day-to-day" only as long as it takes to process the paperwork and put him on the DL.  Anyone who was actually at the game and saw the whole thing (not just the ESPN clip) will likely agree.  I hope we see Hobbs again and that the third time will be the charm.

Well, he seemed ok on *this* day.  Even Garner didn't expect him to play, but maybe they should go ahead and put the paperwork aside for now.

[Arky Vaughan]

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Well, he seemed ok on *this* day.  Even Garner didn't expect him to play, but maybe they should go ahead and put the paperwork aside for now.

So unreliable.

[pravata]

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Well, he seemed ok on *this* day.  Even Garner didn't expect him to play, but maybe they should go ahead and put the paperwork aside for now.

So unreliable.

Who? Garner or Labossiere? From yesterday,

"I plan not to play him," Garner said. " Dave [Labossiere] felt like it was pretty important not to put him in the lineup. He's probably a little weaker than he thinks."
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[NeilT]

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Well, he seemed ok on *this* day.  Even Garner didn't expect him to play, but maybe they should go ahead and put the paperwork aside for now.

So unreliable.

Who? Garner or Labossiere? From yesterday,

"I plan not to play him," Garner said. " Dave [Labossiere] felt like it was pretty important not to put him in the lineup. He's probably a little weaker than he thinks."
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Must be a mistake in the box score.

[Arky Vaughan]

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Who? Garner or Labossiere? From yesterday,

"I plan not to play him," Garner said. " Dave [Labossiere] felt like it was pretty important not to put him in the lineup. He's probably a little weaker than he thinks."
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He'll be "day-to-day" only as long as it takes to process the paperwork and put him on the DL. Anyone who was actually at the game and saw the whole thing (not just the ESPN clip) will likely agree. I hope we see Hobbs again and that the third time will be the charm.

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The Astros do not have any plans to place Burke on the disabled list. He'll be evaluated day-to-day.

"It is something, over a period of time, that may end up being a problem if it keeps popping out," manager Phil Garner said. "He's worked hard at strengthening his shoulder. My concerns are more long term, not immediate."

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[pravata]

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Who? Garner or Labossiere? From yesterday,

"I plan not to play him," Garner said. " Dave [Labossiere] felt like it was pretty important not to put him in the lineup. He's probably a little weaker than he thinks."
The Link

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He'll be "day-to-day" only as long as it takes to process the paperwork and put him on the DL. Anyone who was actually at the game and saw the whole thing (not just the ESPN clip) will likely agree. I hope we see Hobbs again and that the third time will be the charm.

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The Astros do not have any plans to place Burke on the disabled list. He'll be evaluated day-to-day.

"It is something, over a period of time, that may end up being a problem if it keeps popping out," manager Phil Garner said. "He's worked hard at strengthening his shoulder. My concerns are more long term, not immediate."

The Link

What's your confusion?  That we were getting reports citing Garner and Laboissere that Burke wasn't going to play and that was the information, the only information available, that we relied on?

[VirtualBob]

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Unreliable? Okay.

But here is confirmation of Burke's status as day-to-day.

The Link

He'll be "day-to-day" only as long as it takes to process the paperwork and put him on the DL.  Anyone who was actually at the game and saw the whole thing (not just the ESPN clip) will likely agree.  I hope we see Hobbs again and that the third time will be the charm.



Anyone have a hat I can eat?

[Arky Vaughan]

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What's your confusion?  That we were getting reports citing Garner and Laboissere that Burke wasn't going to play and that was the information, the only information available, that we relied on?

There is no confusion. Somebody linked to an article saying he was day-to-day. Somebody else said he was only day-to-day only until the DL papers were processed. He was in the line-up last night. Which was a surprise to me, by the way.

In any event, the "unreliable" comment was sarcasm. I'm not really very invested with who's "unreliable" and who's not around here. It's just a bunch of stuff people post.

[pravata]

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What's your confusion?  That we were getting reports citing Garner and Laboissere that Burke wasn't going to play and that was the information, the only information available, that we relied on?

There is no confusion. Somebody linked to an article saying he was day-to-day. Somebody else said he was only day-to-day only until the DL papers were processed. He was in the line-up last night. Which was a surprise to me, by the way.

In any event, the "unreliable" comment was sarcasm. I'm not really very invested with who's "unreliable" and who's not around here. It's just a bunch of stuff people post.

I am.

[Arky Vaughan]

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I am.

We know.