Concerns Over Clemens' Fitness May Not Be Unfounded

[Limey]

As seen on  the set of his latest HEB commercial.

[JackAstro]

Well, there's something I can't unsee. Thank god it's low res. I'm going to go scrub my eyes with brillo real quick-like...

[Bench]

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As seen on  the set of his latest HEB commercial.

I guess it's true that the guy has struggled with his weight for a long time. I thought it was shocking when he showed up to spring training sporting three chins after getting the biggest contract in Red Sox history back in the 90's, but he actually expects people to pay for that? For shame, Roger. For shame.

[EasTexAstro]

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As seen on  the set of his latest HEB commercial.

At that size, he should be able to get alot on his pitches. (Sorry, JIm. I couldn't resist...)

[Ty in Tampa]

BRAINSTAIN!!!!

[Golden Sombrero]

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As seen on  the set of his latest HEB commercial.

At that size, he should be able to get alot on his pitches. (Sorry, JIm. I couldn't resist...)

I'm concerned that a lot of his pitches will be fat.  But at least he won't leave anything over the plate.

[Augie]

Clemens has an agreement with the Red Sox. Did not say when he will sign but an agreement has been reached. Even some New York media outlets are stating sources say Clemens is not going to sign with the Yankees because he has reached a deal with another team. Guess no more talk with the Astros?

[JackAstro]

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Clemens has an agreement with the Red Sox. Did not say when he will sign but an agreement has been reached. Even some New York media outlets are stating sources say Clemens is not going to sign with the Yankees because he has reached a deal with another team. Guess no more talk with the Astros?

Is there a link for this?

[homer]

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Clemens has an agreement with the Red Sox. Did not say when he will sign but an agreement has been reached. Even some New York media outlets are stating sources say Clemens is not going to sign with the Yankees because he has reached a deal with another team. Guess no more talk with the Astros?

I hope you are not repeating the lame shit from that other site.

[Augie]

I'm sorry this was heard over the radio, but this is the closest thing I can find on the internet for you. The Link

[CJM]

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Clemens has an agreement with the Red Sox. Did not say when he will sign but an agreement has been reached. Even some New York media outlets are stating sources say Clemens is not going to sign with the Yankees because he has reached a deal with another team. Guess no more talk with the Astros?

That shit won't fly here...

[Augie]

I'm sorry CJM, I was simply stating what I heard over the radio. I'm sorry if that doesn't meet your qualifications.

[homer]

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I'm sorry this was heard over the radio, but this is the closest thing I can find on the internet for you. The Link

I'd keep a close eye on your spleen tonight. Lame.

[CJM]

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I'm sorry this was heard over the radio, but this is the closest thing I can find on the internet for you. The Link

You can't be serious.  That article is from December 11th.

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[Augie]

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I'm sorry this was heard over the radio, but this is the closest thing I can find on the internet for you. The Link

You can't be serious.  That article is from December 11th.

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Yes, you should follow these rules. I said I heard this over the radio today, and this is all I could find over this issue on the internet.

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[pravata]

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Clemens has an agreement with the Red Sox. Did not say when he will sign but an agreement has been reached. Even some New York media outlets are stating sources say Clemens is not going to sign with the Yankees because he has reached a deal with another team. Guess no more talk with the Astros?

I hope you are not repeating the lame shit from that other site.

"Rhode Island and Boston area radio stations have stated that Clemens has an agreement with the Red Sox. Did not say when he will sign but an agreement has been reached. Even some New York media outlets are stating sources say Clemens is not going to sign with the Yankees because he has reached a deal with another team."

Ed from CT from Astrosdaily The Link Are you Ed? Are you from Connecticut?

[Augie]

Nice to meet you.

[pravata]

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Nice to meet you.

Are you Ed? Are you from Connecticut?

[Augie]

Yes, my name is Ed, nice to meet you. Who are you?

[CJM]

First- BIG NEWS!!

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Clemens has an agreement with the Red Sox. Did not say when he will sign but an agreement has been reached. Even some New York media outlets are stating sources say Clemens is not going to sign with the Yankees because he has reached a deal with another team. Guess no more talk with the Astros?

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Yes, you should follow these rules. I said I heard this over the radio today, and this is all I could find over this issue on the internet.

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Your first post indicates it's a fact.  Your Internet search should have told you it was bullshit, yet you link to a article that was written about 150 days ago.  Pretty fucking lame Ed.


Edited to add: You got blasted on the other board, so you want to try it over here?  Did you hear it today, or yesterday when you posted on the other board?  I think you're just making shit up to see what kind of response it gets.

[pravata]

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Yes, my name is Ed, nice to meet you. Who are you?

Pravata.  Which radio station were you listening to when you heard this?

[pravata]

05/10/2006 2:55 PM ET
Epstein chats live with Red Sox Nation
General manager fields questions from RSN members

Base_Ball_2: Any updates on bringing Roger Clemens back?

Epstein: As the Hendricks brothers have indicated, Clemens has not yet decided whether he will pitch again. Given that, there's really nothing anybody can say at this point. The media will continue to speculate, of course.
The Link

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

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Clemens has an agreement with the Red Sox.

You misspelled Clement.

[Arky Vaughan]

Apparently there's another contender for Clemens this season:

The Link

[Phil_in_CS]

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... plus an additional $250,000 every time he plays a regulation round of catch with one of his sons. Under the terms of the contract, Clemens would not be obligated to attend away visits to Debbie's mother's house.

Debbie added that the family would have the right to terminate the contract at any point, however, should Clemens ever get caught cheating.

Roger that!

[Limey]

Interesting item for stat geeks:  Great, but lesser known homeruns.  The link.

[Arky Vaughan]

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I'm sorry this was heard over the radio, but this is the closest thing I can find on the internet for you. The Link

You didn't attribute this to the radio in your initial post. And which radio station was it? Where? Who said it? Which New York media outlets were you referring to? Was it reported as fact or rumor? You stated it as fact. This isn't a rumor mill. If you state something like this here, you need to be able to back it up, and not just with "I heard it on the radio" and posting a news piece several months old.

[astro pete]

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If you state something like this here, you need to be able to back it up, and not just with "I heard it on the radio" and posting a news piece several months old.

Actually, I loved that the "closest thing he could find" was an article from five months ago.  Not only is he an idiot, not only is he a troll, but he also hasn't picked up a newspaper, surfed the web, or watched anything baseball related since 2005.

[pravata]

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Yes, my name is Ed, nice to meet you. Who are you?

Which radio station were you listening to? The Link  Perhaps they'll be repeating their scoop about Clemens signing.  We might all be able to listen.  How is it that only you have the story?  I've checked most of these Connecticut newspapers, The Link  none have the story.

It would be best if you confined your unattributed misinformation to the other 2 Astros boards that you originally typed this in.  They might put up with this bullshit.  We do not.

[jasonact]

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I'm sorry this was heard over the radio, but this is the closest thing I can find on the internet for you. The Link

Some random idiot with a mic and a radio transmitter does not constitute anything. Until it is confirmed by a "printable source" it is worthless, and not worth an ounce of our time.

[strosrays]

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Yes, my name is Ed, nice to meet you. Who are you?

Which radio station were you listening to? The Link  Perhaps they'll be repeating their scoop about Clemens signing.  We might all be able to listen.  How is it that only you have the story?  I've checked most of these Connecticut newspapers, The Link  none have the story.

It would be best if you confined your unattributed misinformation to the other 2 Astros boards that you originally typed this in.  They might put up with this bullshit.  We do not.

He was embarrassed to say he actually received this information from on high, through the receptors in his Reynolds? brand heavy-duty foil helmet.

And to top it off, now his mom has nothing to wrap up last night's baked codfish with.

[Astroholic]

And you can't always rely on a printable source. The AP is not always right.

[pravata]

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And you can't always rely on a printable source. The AP is not always right.

No you can't but there are ways to verify information.  Your only other option is the tin foil.

[das]

I've always known the Amazing Pravata to be a credible and correct news source.

[pravata]

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I've always known the Amazing Pravata to be a credible and correct news source.

Left to his own devices he's full of shit.

[BizidyDizidy]

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I've always known the Amazing Pravata to be a credible and correct news source.

Left to his own devices he's full of shit.

But always amazingly so.

[JimR]

hey, Ed. go fuck yourself, and stay off of this site.

[Augie]

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hey, Ed. go fuck yourself, and stay off of this site.

Read the guidelines of this forum, you just broke them.

And the guy talking about my mother, she died 2 years ago with skin cancer. I don't really appreciate that comment.

[Augie]

Edited by CJM (05/10/06 11:27 PM)

[Augie]

Looks like he decided to delete that last post.

[astro pete]

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Read the guidelines of this forum, you just broke them.

Read the one about ankle-biting, which is exactly what you're doing.

[MusicMan]

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hey, Ed. go fuck yourself, and stay off of this site.

Read the guidelines of this forum, you just broke them.

And the guy talking about my mother, she died 2 years ago with skin cancer. I don't really appreciate that comment.

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The TZ is not a place for kids, and most content will be tolerated within reason.

My condolences for your loss.

[pravata]

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hey, Ed. go fuck yourself, and stay off of this site.

Read the guidelines of this forum, you just broke them.

And the guy talking about my mother, she died 2 years ago with skin cancer. I don't really appreciate that comment.

Which radio station were you listening to?

[Arky Vaughan]

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hey, Ed. go fuck yourself, and stay off of this site.

Read the guidelines of this forum, you just broke them.

And the guy talking about my mother, she died 2 years ago with skin cancer. I don't really appreciate that comment.

Your help isn't needed to enforce the guidelines.

We would appreciate your answering the substantive questions with respect to what you posted yesterday, however. If you're going to post here, you should be prepared to back up what you say.

[Augie]

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hey, Ed. go fuck yourself, and stay off of this site.

Read the guidelines of this forum, you just broke them.

And the guy talking about my mother, she died 2 years ago with skin cancer. I don't really appreciate that comment.

Your help isn't needed to enforce the guidelines.

We would appreciate your answering the substantive questions with respect to what you posted yesterday, however. If you're going to post here, you should be prepared to back up what you say.

Respect -- If I have misguided you guys, that's fine. But you have to show respect to receive it. Most of you have approached this like a 12 year old school girl with your childish replies. If you think I'm wrong, simply state that, these responses show maturity level is lacking:

homer: I'd keep a close eye on your spleen tonight. Lame.

Jim R:hey, Ed. go fuck yourself, and stay off of this site.

[pravata]

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hey, Ed. go fuck yourself, and stay off of this site.

Read the guidelines of this forum, you just broke them.

And the guy talking about my mother, she died 2 years ago with skin cancer. I don't really appreciate that comment.

Your help isn't needed to enforce the guidelines.

We would appreciate your answering the substantive questions with respect to what you posted yesterday, however. If you're going to post here, you should be prepared to back up what you say.

Respect -- If I have misguided you guys, that's fine. But you have to show respect to receive it. Most of you have approached this like a 12 year old school girl with your childish replies. If you think I'm wrong, simply state that, these responses show maturity level is lacking:

homer: I'd keep a close eye on your spleen tonight. Lame.

Jim R:hey, Ed. go fuck yourself, and stay off of this site.

Which radio station were you listening to when you heard the news about Clemens?

[MusicMan]

"With respect to"... not as a display of respect, as you seem to read it, but meaning "in relation to".

This still doesn't solve the fundamental problem: you've been shown the contradictory evidence before, at other sites, and yet ran in here proclaiming what you thought you heard to be gospel truth.

[homer]

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hey, Ed. go fuck yourself, and stay off of this site.

Read the guidelines of this forum, you just broke them.

And the guy talking about my mother, she died 2 years ago with skin cancer. I don't really appreciate that comment.

Your help isn't needed to enforce the guidelines.

We would appreciate your answering the substantive questions with respect to what you posted yesterday, however. If you're going to post here, you should be prepared to back up what you say.

Respect -- If I have misguided you guys, that's fine. But you have to show respect to receive it. Most of you have approached this like a 12 year old school girl with your childish replies. If you think I'm wrong, simply state that, these responses show maturity level is lacking:

homer: I'd keep a close eye on your spleen tonight. Lame.

Jim R:hey, Ed. go fuck yourself, and stay off of this site.

You come in here and essentially tell a big fucking lie, presumably to draw a reaction and bring some moment of excitement to you otherwise dull life... and I'm childish? You need to get a grip on reality... and keep a close eye on your spleen.

[Augie]

A big fucking lie? I simply tell you guys what I hear on a radio station and you say I'm fucking lying?

Listening to some tunes on The Hit WKCI and between songs they announce it.  Would you like me to call up the radio station and cuss him out because he's a big fucking liar?

[Arky Vaughan]

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hey, Ed. go fuck yourself, and stay off of this site.

Read the guidelines of this forum, you just broke them.

And the guy talking about my mother, she died 2 years ago with skin cancer. I don't really appreciate that comment.

Your help isn't needed to enforce the guidelines.

We would appreciate your answering the substantive questions with respect to what you posted yesterday, however. If you're going to post here, you should be prepared to back up what you say.

Respect -- If I have misguided you guys, that's fine. But you have to show respect to receive it. Most of you have approached this like a 12 year old school girl with your childish replies. If you think I'm wrong, simply state that, these responses show maturity level is lacking:

homer: I'd keep a close eye on your spleen tonight. Lame.

Jim R:hey, Ed. go fuck yourself, and stay off of this site.

Those comments weren't made by me. Take that up with the people who made them. (And as for the spleen comment, that wasn't an insult, it was a reference to something that I have a sinking feeling you're about to find out about.)

I've asked you several questions regarding what you posted. I didn't insult you or use profanity. Instead of responding to my post complaining about names other people have called you, why don't you just answer my questions?

Or answer Pravata's: what radio station were you listening to when you heard the rumor you posted as fact yesterday?

[Arky Vaughan]

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A big fucking lie? I simply tell you guys what I hear on a radio station and you say I'm fucking lying?

Listening to some tunes on The Hit WKCI and between songs they announce it.  Would you like me to call up the radio station and cuss him out because he's a big fucking liar?

But that's not how you initially presented it. You wrote it as fact, subsequenrly saying you heard it on the radio, and then after a lot more hemming and hawing, say you heard it on WKCI, whom Pravata is probably on the telephone with right now.

Can you not see that this smacks of rumor-mongering?

[Augie]

Thank you for being mature about it. But I did just answer it, WKCI.

[Augie]

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A big fucking lie? I simply tell you guys what I hear on a radio station and you say I'm fucking lying?

Listening to some tunes on The Hit WKCI and between songs they announce it.  Would you like me to call up the radio station and cuss him out because he's a big fucking liar?

But that's not how you initially presented it. You wrote it as fact, subsequenrly saying you heard it on the radio, and then after a lot more hemming and hawing, say you heard it on WKCI, whom Pravata is probably on the telephone with right now.

Can you not see that this smacks of rumor-mongering?

He can call them if he wants, that's fine with me. Sorry I presented my statement in the wrong manner. I'll watch closer next time.

[pravata]

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A big fucking lie? I simply tell you guys what I hear on a radio station and you say I'm fucking lying?

Listening to some tunes on The Hit WKCI and between songs they announce it.  Would you like me to call up the radio station and cuss him out because he's a big fucking liar?

WKCI, was this yesterday?  I am also assuming that when you typed "Rhode Island and Boston area radio stations..." (at astrosdaily) you were quoting WKCI, which has no sports program, see  The Link reporting that they heard this from other sources. Also there is no report in the New Haven paper The Link they do have a sports writer. Quick check of Boston Herald, Boston Globe, I find no mention of any such rumor.  Can you explain why this might be?

[Arky Vaughan]

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A big fucking lie? I simply tell you guys what I hear on a radio station and you say I'm fucking lying?

Listening to some tunes on The Hit WKCI and between songs they announce it.  Would you like me to call up the radio station and cuss him out because he's a big fucking liar?

But that's not how you initially presented it. You wrote it as fact, subsequenrly saying you heard it on the radio, and then after a lot more hemming and hawing, say you heard it on WKCI, whom Pravata is probably on the telephone with right now.

Can you not see that this smacks of rumor-mongering?

He can call them if he wants, that's fine with me. Sorry I presented my statement in the wrong manner. I'll watch closer next time.

It's all a matter of credibility, or lack thereof. We get a lot of people posting here for the purpose of stirring up trouble.

[Limey]

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WKCI, was this yesterday?

News travels slow in New Haven, CT.

[Augie]

No, No, it was Monday I believe.

[Augie]

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A big fucking lie? I simply tell you guys what I hear on a radio station and you say I'm fucking lying?

Listening to some tunes on The Hit WKCI and between songs they announce it.  Would you like me to call up the radio station and cuss him out because he's a big fucking liar?

But that's not how you initially presented it. You wrote it as fact, subsequenrly saying you heard it on the radio, and then after a lot more hemming and hawing, say you heard it on WKCI, whom Pravata is probably on the telephone with right now.

Can you not see that this smacks of rumor-mongering?

He can call them if he wants, that's fine with me. Sorry I presented my statement in the wrong manner. I'll watch closer next time.

It's all a matter of credibility, or lack thereof. We get a lot of people posting here for the purpose of stirring up trouble.

Sorry Arky, that is not what I intended. Like I said, I'll watch how I present my responses closer next time.

[Limey]

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No, No, it was Monday I believe.

WKCI's format has been "Top 40" since 1979.  So you really think that a New Haven, CT Top 40 station is the source that's going to break the news about Clemens career plans or lack thereof?

Eff.  Off.  Troll.

[Arky Vaughan]

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Sorry Arky, that is not what I intended. Like I said, I'll watch how I present my responses closer next time.

I wonder if there's anything to the fact that WKCI could be pronounced "wacky."

[CJM]

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Edited by CJM (05/10/06 11:27 PM)

Looks like he decided to delete that last post.

I edited it to add more reasons why you are full of shit.

[MusicMan]

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Sorry I presented my statement in the wrong manner. I'll watch closer next time.

You got 30 replies 2 days ago on another board clarifying this for you.  Maybe you should have learned from that experience?

[Limey]

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You got 30 replies 2 days ago on another board clarifying this for you.  Maybe you should have learned from that experience?

I suspect he's a craptomaniac.  He knows what he's doing is wrong, but he's just crying out for attention.

[astro pete]

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You got 30 replies 2 days ago on another board clarifying this for you.  Maybe you should have learned from that experience?

He learned he needed to find a new website.

[CJM]

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I said I heard this over the radio today  

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No, No, it was Monday I believe.

Which is it?  Seems like you thought it was very big news, yet you don't know when you heard it?

[Augie]

I told you I simply stated my comment incorrectly. I did not intend to say this is what is actually happening, just another rumor in the pile. No need to drag this on...Let's talk baseball.

[Limey]

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I told you I simply stated my comment incorrectly. I did not intend to say this is what is actually happening, just another rumor in the pile. No need to drag this on...Let's talk baseball.

Bollocks to that.  I want to hear more of  WKCI's "Total Access" Chaz and Mike's scooperific morning buzz about Clemens.