Author Topic: Non BB: Texans sign Mario Williams... (Read 7573 times)

HudsonHawk · « **on:** April 28, 2006, 10:46:26 pm »

There, it's a done deal, no more whining Bush or Young.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #1 on:** April 28, 2006, 10:48:58 pm »

Not necessarily an entirely done deal (for instance, the Chargers picked Eli Manning with the first pick).

Like the pick though.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #2 on:** April 28, 2006, 10:50:48 pm »

Quote:

Not necessarily an entirely done deal (for instance, the Chargers picked Eli Manning with the first pick).

Like the pick though.

What the fuck does Eli Manning have to do with anything? The Texans have signed a deal with Williams. Eli Manning is irrelevant.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #3 on:** April 28, 2006, 10:53:23 pm »

I quit caring about pro football when the Oilers left town. This does nothing to change that.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #4 on:** April 28, 2006, 10:54:54 pm »

They can still do a sign and trade with Mario Williams (the Jets, for one, are rumored to have him at the top of their draft board). Very similar to the deal between NYG and San Diego two years (although, they did not sign the players before signing).

I can't understand it for you.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #6 on:** April 28, 2006, 11:00:24 pm »

While were talking about football....

The New Era group embroiled in the controversy with Bush has said that a payment was made (28k) in 2004. If it comes out that USC knew about it, they could go from bragging about their three-peat to have a no-peat.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #8 on:** April 28, 2006, 11:03:52 pm »

But that doesn't mean Williams is who they will end up with. I'm assuming all the consternation about Vince and Bush was regarding their actually playing with the texans, but I guess it was possible that everyone in the city just had a fetish for seeing their name on the Texans draft card.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #14 on:** April 28, 2006, 11:14:22 pm »

Not necessarily. For instance, it might give them more leverage with the Jets.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #15 on:** April 28, 2006, 11:15:42 pm »

FWIW, I think they will end up with Williams, but there is certainly still talk going on about them getting someone else.

matadorph · « **Reply #16 on:** April 28, 2006, 11:45:20 pm »

This is so fucking stupid, if they felt the need to build the team by building the line and they couldn't find any takers to trade out of the top spot and still get Mario Williams, they should've targeted D'Brickashaw Ferguson and traded down.

If they weren't gonna go with an marguee player like Young or Bush, they should've done whatever it took to trade down a few spots and get some more picks.

Nice job, Casserly.

Dobro · « **Reply #17 on:** April 28, 2006, 11:54:14 pm »

What a colossal fuck-up.

Holly · « **Reply #21 on:** April 29, 2006, 12:40:49 am »

Whoa wait.

Someone's first name is "D'Brickashaw"? Woddafock? Mom must have been playing with refrigerator magnets before the epidural wore off.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #26 on:** April 29, 2006, 11:06:52 am »

What if they felt the need to build the team through defense?

It's amazing how the best baseball forum quickly turns into the worst football forum. No one here would put up with this kind of inane shit about the astros for a second.

mihoba · « **Reply #29 on:** April 29, 2006, 12:31:06 pm »

I just hope the lame duck CC isn't much of an influence on the rest of the draft, let Kubiak pick the players he needs.

This mess with Bush and the rent house maybe turned off the Texans also, IMO. Aledged dishonesty from a 'franchise' type player... not a good way to start.

mihoba · « **Reply #31 on:** April 29, 2006, 12:50:31 pm »

And the other needs you mentioned are glaring, eh?

Here's hoping for OT Eric Winston in the second round, pick #33.

Pass rush and blocker with the first two, couldn't hurt.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #33 on:** April 29, 2006, 01:25:50 pm »

I think they think they can address OL with coaching changes (remember, Mike Sherman is the OL coach now) and maybe later picks.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #35 on:** April 29, 2006, 01:50:12 pm »

Conventional wisdom is that DEs are much more valuable than RBs.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #39 on:** April 29, 2006, 02:17:00 pm »

7 teams had Williams rated one apparently, including Denver and NYJ.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #42 on:** April 29, 2006, 02:54:38 pm »

I don't think they've been bad drafters in the first round. They just showed the Browns haven't drafted a pro-bowler since 1991. The texans have drafted AJ and Dunta, and the jury is still out on Carr and Travis Johnson.

Zan · « **Reply #43 on:** April 29, 2006, 03:00:59 pm »

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Waldo · « **Reply #44 on:** April 29, 2006, 03:06:03 pm »

I think they were a lot better in 2004 than 2005. Or at least, not as bad.

Billy Zabka · « **Reply #47 on:** April 29, 2006, 11:09:34 pm »

I think Eric Winston was a really good pick in the third round. I heard some predictions that the Texans would draft him in the second round. A pass blocking OT is exactly what they need most.

And, Darnell Bing and Ko Robinson are both available at the beginning of the fourth round tomorrow. Safety is another need position. Or they could go with Max-Jean Gilles who has to be th biggest human being in the world at Guard.

NeilT · « **Reply #48 on:** April 29, 2006, 11:44:20 pm »

I'm still baffled why the Texans didn't take Burke.

Golden Sombrero · « **Reply #52 on:** April 30, 2006, 04:23:37 pm »

Initially I was incredulous but the more I think about it the more I think this was a good move. Defense was a pressing concern and Williams seems eager to play. And the Texans picked up some O-linemen in the 3rd round. All in all not too shabby.

Golden Sombrero · « **Reply #54 on:** April 30, 2006, 04:38:06 pm »

I'm eager to play as well. Maybe I can sign on with the Texans as an undrafted free agent. I always felt I could be a superstar athlete. I might be able to cut it as a guard.

Golden Sombrero · « **Reply #56 on:** April 30, 2006, 06:30:16 pm »

I don't know if I've ever run 40 consecutive yards.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #57 on:** April 30, 2006, 06:34:26 pm »

I don't know if you added up all the yards I've ever run if it would add up to 40. Depending on your definition, I may have never "run".

Foghorn · « **Reply #58 on:** May 01, 2006, 02:24:13 pm »

Here are the game by game numbers for the past 2 years for Mario.

2004

Opponent--Sacks--Tackles for Losses

Richmond--0--0
Ohio State--0--0
Va Tech--0--1
Wake Forest--1--3
UNC--0--3
Maryland--1--2
Miami--1--0
Clemson--0--0
Ga Tech--0--1
FSU--0--5
E Carolina--3--1

2005

Va Tech--0--0
E Kentucky--0--0.5
UNC--1--3
Ga Tech--0--0
Clemson--0--0.5
Wake Forest--3--3.5
S Miss--3.5--5.5
FSU--0.5--0.5
BC--0--0
Mid Tenn--1--3
Maryland--4--5

Let's separate the 22 games into 4 categories: versus the damn good teams (2 Va tech, 2 FSU, 1 Miami, 1 Ohio State), versus the good/average (2 ga Tech, 2 Clemson, BC), versus the poor (2 MD, 2 UNC, 1 S Miss), versus the putrid (E Kentucky, 2 Wake, 1 Mid Tenn, 1 Richmond, 1 E Carolina).

(Category--# of Games--Sacks--Tackles for Loss)

Damn Good--6--1.5--5.5
Good/Avg--5--0--1.5
Poor--5--9.5--18.5
Putrid--6--8--11

In 11 games versus Good Teams, Mario Williams totaled 1.5 sacks and 7 tackles for losses.

There's your #1 overall pick. Potential over production.

OldBlevins · « **Reply #59 on:** May 01, 2006, 05:23:32 pm »

If you want to see something kind of funny, go to the Texans' web site and click on their live draft room cam. It's still on.