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JaneDoe · « **on:** March 07, 2006, 01:31:30 pm »

Did anyone think at the beginnning of the season that Texas A&M would be ranked higher than UT? BA top 25

I am a casual fan (without access to seeing or hearing the games often) so I am wondering what are the main problems the Horns are having--pitching, hitting, fielding or a combination?

OldBlevins · « **Reply #1 on:** March 07, 2006, 01:36:18 pm »

I heard Augie Garrido on 1300 the zone today. Earlier in the year their main problem was hitting. Now their main problem is fielding, particularly in the outfield, though he seemed optimistic that could be fixed.

loganck · « **Reply #2 on:** March 07, 2006, 01:40:17 pm »

defense all around. errors are killing this team on a game-to-game basis. the horns should have swept the weekend series in vegas; instead they were nearly swept. the two losses and sunday's close call were due to defensive blunders, in the outfield and infield. they are a fairly young team, and i expect they'll be much improved by the end of the season.

astro pete · « **Reply #3 on:** March 07, 2006, 01:40:32 pm »

Quote:

I am a casual fan (without access to seeing or hearing the games often) so I am wondering what are the main problems the Horns are having--pitching, hitting, fielding or a combination?

They scheduled Tulane...

Tralfaz · « **Reply #4 on:** March 07, 2006, 02:03:22 pm »

They also seem to have not figured out who the real leaders on the team are due to thier inconsistency.

JimR · « **Reply #5 on:** March 07, 2006, 02:46:00 pm »

defense, pitching, hitting--in that order, but the offense has been far better than the defense and pitching. errors are killing them, as someone said.

no leaders right now, and Stubbs is a good player but disappointing overall.

MusicMan · « **Reply #6 on:** March 07, 2006, 03:17:17 pm »

If the hoops team can get their stuff together for a 3-week run in the tourney, and pull off the unprecedented baseball-football-basketball trifecta, I think Augie just might be given a bye on a rebuilding year.

JimR · « **Reply #7 on:** March 07, 2006, 03:20:11 pm »

the baseball team should be better than this, and i think it will be. very disappointing so far, though, especially the way they have been losing.

Barnes is my favorite UT coach. i hope some year he does it.

MusicMan · « **Reply #8 on:** March 07, 2006, 03:31:21 pm »

As my sig indicates, Brown went way up in my eyes when he kept the national championship in perspective for those kids. To me, that was more impressive that the championship itself.

Barnes has always conducted himself in a manner to make the University proud (unlike the clown that preceded him). He's done a great job of coaching this year - not every coach would have pulled Gibson off the point - but I don't think they can play with the necessary consistency.

JimR · « **Reply #9 on:** March 07, 2006, 03:33:03 pm »

Brown is an absolute master at PR.

they have played to the level of their opposition. that bodes well for March Madness.

JimR · « **Reply #11 on:** March 07, 2006, 03:41:31 pm »

Buckman got hurt early in that game, and Gibson was still playing point.

JimR · « **Reply #13 on:** March 07, 2006, 04:32:23 pm »

both Gibson and Buckman were hurt v. Tennessee. UT played terrible in those two conference losses. OSU played great, but aTm was about as bad as UT was. ugly games.

JaneDoe · « **Reply #14 on:** March 07, 2006, 04:47:55 pm »

Maybe I should rename this thread---college basketball. I am looking forward March Madness. (It also means that opening day is getting closer.)

JimR · « **Reply #15 on:** March 07, 2006, 04:50:45 pm »

just call it College Sports.

WulawHorn · « **Reply #16 on:** March 07, 2006, 04:59:06 pm »

Texas played just fine vs OU- they got phenominally lucky witness banking in 2 three's in a three minute stretch as they took control of the game.

A&M does a good job of uglying up the game- give them credit-that is the only way they can win- and they execute it well. OSU was the only game I missed- but I just chalk it up to one of those days that every team has.

JimR · « **Reply #17 on:** March 07, 2006, 05:33:57 pm »

OSU played a great game. if UT had played well, it would have been close.

JimR · « **Reply #19 on:** March 07, 2006, 05:46:00 pm »

aTm played just as bad in that game as UT. it was awful to watch. the difference was PJ's brain cramp and Law's NBA 3. both teams should destroy the tape immediately.

JimR · « **Reply #21 on:** March 07, 2006, 06:03:53 pm »

neither side could throw it in the ocean. UT shot 30+% and aTm shot 20+%. terrible game all around.

JimR · « **Reply #23 on:** March 07, 2006, 06:16:27 pm »

you did not have a team in that game. you go to Tulane.

WulawHorn · « **Reply #25 on:** March 07, 2006, 06:47:30 pm »

Slightly disagree about A&M playing equally crappy jim- I've seen them 6 or 8 times and that's about par for the course for them- its just the way they play and I believe its intentional. It's also really smart for them and Gillespie is a really good coach- at least for their style.

They take the air out of the ball on the offensive end, try to get jones and law as many shots as possible (both are very good imo) and hack, slap, reach and grope on defense, hoping the officials won't call them for everything.

They did the same thing against OU in a 45-44 game they lost (but should have won- it was amazing that they didn't and really unlucky for them), as well as against OSU both times. I think that it fits their fan base as well to have "scrappy" players like they do- total underdog thing that they like.

I think the reason their fanbase was so down on their football team this year was b/c it looked like their guys didn't care. A&M is ok with losing if they do it in a scrappy way, from my observations living amongst a bunch of aggies for 15 years. Of course they, like anyone else, prefer winning, but to lose and not play spirited kills them.

WulawHorn · « **Reply #27 on:** March 07, 2006, 06:57:27 pm »

I know plenty of old aggies that saw them get their asses kicked in the 60's and 70's that differ. They weren't pissed about the losing, rather that the teams didn't have the spirit of aggieland in them.

A team full of Jaxson Appels could go 5-6 without being hated for it. This team was unwatchable to many of them and not SOLELY b/c they lost.

JimR · « **Reply #28 on:** March 07, 2006, 06:58:13 pm »

if a team shoots under 30%, i call that crappy. maybe it is just me.

WulawHorn · « **Reply #29 on:** March 07, 2006, 07:00:17 pm »

this is coming from a guy whose friend named his kids Kyle and Jaxon, I can promise you he was more pissed about their attitude/hustle/lack of pluckiness than losing.

Nobody around here was unhappy about the OU and UT losses b/c they felt like they played hard and got after them. Their unproven unknown QB is a god like figure right now b/c he played hard and they cannot turn the page quick enough on the Real Deal era. It is not only about the W/L's with these guys.

WulawHorn · « **Reply #30 on:** March 07, 2006, 07:01:18 pm »

Jim- what if that's the norm, and that is the way they win?

JimR · « **Reply #33 on:** March 07, 2006, 07:22:02 pm »

lots of turmoil within that team. that should improve now that Reggie is gone, but Fran is not very popular with his players. they were telling recruits last year not to come to aTm.

JimR · « **Reply #42 on:** March 08, 2006, 12:30:49 am »

good win for the Ags, for sure, but they played like shit. UT played worse.

Andyzipp · « **Reply #44 on:** March 08, 2006, 10:03:06 am »

So, I was at that game. A&M shot like shit. But they controlled the tempo of the game and played defense.

Gillespie needs better athletes, and that's why they play the way they do. They start Walker and Pompey because both of those guys play defense. And for BG if the choice is a shooter or a guy who might be able to score but is going to go balls out on defense, he's going to go with defense right now.

Big step for the Ags this year in basketball. If they can keep Law around for one more season to go with the incoming recruiting class, A&M should make a legitimate NCAA run next year. (Read, I don't think they're in this year.)

Andyzipp · « **Reply #45 on:** March 08, 2006, 10:05:44 am »

I think what he's saying is, no one would be happy about losing games, but good effort and sound coaching will buy you a lot of rope.

For the record, I thought/think Appel should have played strong safety for 4 years rather than free safety. Boy couldn't cover worth a damn. Never understood that.

JimR · « **Reply #47 on:** March 08, 2006, 11:16:33 am »

Gillespie is a good coach, and his game plan was excellent. whether they win depends on how the game is called. i thought the game in Austin was a "let 'em play" game, but there were 20 FEWER fouls called in CS. Law and Jones are good players who any team would love to have. UT's zone defense helped aTm control the tempo of the game, and we picked that game to shoot in the 30s. as i said, good win for the Ags, but lousy basketball.

JimR · « **Reply #51 on:** March 08, 2006, 12:02:02 pm »

i hope they are in. Gillespie has done a great job, and i'm all for the Big 12 doing well.

Froback · « **Reply #52 on:** March 08, 2006, 12:08:30 pm »

From what I hear, they are on the bubble but a win in their first Big 12 Tourny game will get them in for sure, a loss and they have to hope their bubble isn't burst.

As for the coach. They are foolish if they let him get away. After all, can anyone really out bid them? And while we are on the subject of A&M coaches. They have another special coach on the woman's team too. Look what he has done.

WulawHorn · « **Reply #53 on:** March 08, 2006, 12:23:19 pm »

Andy- that is exactly what I was saying- nowhere was I trying to make the point that A&M fans like losing or some such, just saying that they will tolerate it as long as they feel like coaches are maximizing talent and guys are putting in full effort. I think that such a situation at texas still gets a coach fired, but I think Ags are more forgiving if the effort and coaching is there, but the talent is not.

I think A&M needs to beat Colorado. I think they should already be in, but I think the selection committee is going to view that as an elimination game, even though I don't think that they should.

WulawHorn · « **Reply #54 on:** March 08, 2006, 12:26:29 pm »

Ask the "old army" guys what they think and their expectations are different from yours I bet- I know way too many of them in my area to believe any differently. I'm not arguing with you anymore, you have your opinion and I have mine.

PS- I'da wacked slocumn in 1999 and told my brother (an ag) that they should. The problems you guys had were evident to me then. You are reaping the consequences on not moving on him when you should have, and that was well before he was actually terminated.

At Ease · « **Reply #55 on:** March 08, 2006, 01:03:15 pm »

Awful fielding and shaky pitching seems to be contagious.

drew corleone · « **Reply #56 on:** March 08, 2006, 02:10:14 pm »

Or maybe inconsistent play (or should I say playing to the level of your opponent) has just become contagious on the UT campus.

The Horns went to Reckling and beat No. 3 Rice 9-5 last night. Kenn Kasparek evidently had a solid outing.

Phil_in_CS · « **Reply #57 on:** March 08, 2006, 02:19:43 pm »

I was going to post this, but decided not to since this isn't a basketball board. But you all got going on this, so I have to share.

Here is a photo of the winning shot from The Eagle (BCS local paper). Texas' #1 is really letting it all hang out in trying to stop it. The ladies in my office had a field day with this.

I've got a scan of the whole page, but its huge and newspapers don't scan well.

They pulled this from the website pretty quickly; this is a scan from the paper.

edited to point out this might be NSFW, depending on what's really flapping around there.

WulawHorn · « **Reply #59 on:** March 08, 2006, 03:35:26 pm »

This A&M team reminds me of that Colorado team from 03-04, from a national media perspective. The Big 12 is considered down, they played a week non-conference schedule and are bereft of any quality wins (other than Texas at home). Still think A&M should go though, regardless of the conference tourney results.

JimR · « **Reply #60 on:** March 08, 2006, 05:04:21 pm »

they talked to Gibson about the photo. he was wearing tights under his shorts so whatever it is, it ain't what you think.

WulawHorn · « **Reply #65 on:** March 13, 2006, 10:58:21 am »

The NCAA tournament selection committee should be taken out behind the barn and horsewhipped.

This was the most unfuckingbelieveably messed up brackets I've seen in years.

They have two entire brackets where it doesn't look like anyone should come through, and then they have stupid shit like Michigan St. and North Carolina lined up to play in the second round. Send MSU to OU's seed and they cakewalk over Florida (who always chokes) and NC destroys OU (who might not even beat UWM or whoever they have.

Texas as the 2 seed in Duke's regional is a travesty- I think I'd trade with Kansas and their number 4 seed straight up. Nevada as a 5 and Montana as a 12- what a load of crap. Why not put A&M opposite Nevada and Montana oppo Syracuse so we can get a little bit of power conference vs. small conference twice instead of no times.

Air Force in the field when they have beaten NOBODY. Cincy left out of the field? Oscar Robertson and Nick Van Exel would be rolling over in their graves right now if only they were dead.

Just a brutal job by the selection committe this year. I think maybe its b/c they had 7!!! guys from shit ass leagues so they didn't know what they were doing or some such.

Ridiculous.

drew corleone · « **Reply #66 on:** March 13, 2006, 12:40:01 pm »

I love how we went from contending for a 1 seed to what is for all intents and purposes the lowest 2 seed.

Horseshit.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #72 on:** March 13, 2006, 02:16:38 pm »

WFW!

You wanna win the National Championship? Play the teams on your schedule and beat them. It's pretty fuckin simple.

drew corleone · « **Reply #80 on:** March 13, 2006, 05:26:50 pm »

Hudson... I don't think Duke (or their fans) are worried to see Texas in their region.

Bob... by your logic why don't we just forgo the charade of a tournament and have Duke play UConn now?

Pete... Every analyst in the country had Texas as a possible No. 1 headed into championship weekend. They lost to kansas so it becoems moot. Fine, so you figure Texas and Ohio State (who lost to Iowa, and was another No. 1 contender) would automatically be the top two No. 2s.

Y'all can say "WFW" all you want, but no one wants to have to face Duke just to get to the Final Four. Texas deserved better than that.

WulawHorn · « **Reply #81 on:** March 13, 2006, 05:59:55 pm »

My post had way more data points than just the UT seeding, and yes it was a complete traveshamockery them being opposite Duke in the ATL bracket.

Rankings have shit all nothing to do with seeding- as witnessed by GW being an 8 seed and ranked in the top ten for the past 2 months.

If you want to say who cares you have to beat everybody then fine- lets just grab a fucking name from the hat and play them off- Duke has to beat UConn so why not play in the first round.

The Committee stepped all over their crank all throughout.

Duke is the #1 overall seed and has the toughest bracket, UCONN is the #2nd has the 2nd hardest bracket.

I thought A&M should have got a Nevada and Syracuse should have got Montana, usually they like to do contrasts on big league/small league etc.

Cincy being out was a joke- apparently Western Kentucky was the last cut- wtf is that about?

It was a poor year, and texas happened to get screwed along with Duke, UCONN, UNC, Michigan St etc.

Florida, UCLA, Gonzaga, OU, Kansas et al got really freaking lucky. Worst Bracket ever, and that has almost nothing to do with me believing texas was one of the teams getting shafted. How about Duke having to play a 26-2 GW team in the second round? How does that make sense? Why couldn't they get the Arkansas/Bucknell winner?

WulawHorn · « **Reply #83 on:** March 13, 2006, 06:15:17 pm »

And he is also going to be back for the tourney- allegedly.

I'm not saying that they shouldn't be down there, but that is a huge Wild Card to throw at the #1 overall seed. Maybe Memphis or Nova would have been more appropriate (nova is an injury wild card themselves).

WulawHorn · « **Reply #88 on:** March 14, 2006, 01:26:55 pm »

Again- UT was one of 5 or 6 different problems I focused on in how the brackets were made up- this is in no way a UT centered bitch session. I thought the brackets, as a whole, were shit.

If you cannot see the inherent idiocy in saying Duke v UConn in the 1st round would be ok then I have nothing more that I could possibly say to you.

I don't think that Texas is likely to win the NCAA tournament as I think there are clearly 2 teams better than them, and 3 additional teams that you could have seeded higher then them (Nova and Memphis who we beat in the regular season, but who earned the 1's ahead of UT). I think a good case could be made for Ohio State as well to be seeded ahead of Texas as a Two, and possibly UCLA, but they have nowhere near the amount of skins on the wall this year as Texas, who beat Iowa and West Virgina at neutral sites, won at Memphis, beat Nova at home and dismantled Kansas at home by 25. All of their losses were to tourney teams with the exception of OK St. That is a resume of a damn good team, that doesn't deserve to have to be in a situation where they have to beat the #1 overall seed just to make it to Indy.

If you are going to seed then you should do so in a manner where you balance the brackets, otherwise pull the names out of a hat.

WulawHorn · « **Reply #89 on:** March 14, 2006, 01:31:20 pm »

Also, UH should not have to "beat Memphis" to make it in. They have two quality wins over tourney teams, and that would have made their case for them, absent 3 horrible losses.

You shouldn't have to beat a #1 seed to prove your worthiness, but you cannot lose to Rice, Central Florida, UTEP without their best player, and some other scrub team and make the case you belong in the tourney with only 2 quality wins. Those two wins should get you in if you take care of your other business, which the coogs did not do a good enough job of.

WulawHorn · « **Reply #92 on:** March 14, 2006, 01:38:33 pm »

Again- I'm not saying they shouldn't have to beat a good team in the elite 8, and I'm not arguing that they deserved a #1 seed- all I'm saying is they shouldn't be playing the #1 overall seed in the tourney in that round, just like UNC v MSU shouldn't be happening in round 2, Duke v GW shouldn't be happening in Round 2, UCLA should not have been given a cake walk through their side of the bracket, Nova should not have received the easiest bracket in the tourney, and UCONN should not be in the same bracket as the guys they are in with (UNC, MSU, Illinois etc.)

If you are going to seed, and only HH seems to think that you shouldn't worry about it, then do it better than the half ass, haphazard job that this committe did. I'm not the only one to call these the worst brackets ever, and it isn't just UT fans complaining about them. Jim Nance and Billy Packard on CBS didn't seem to think the committe did well either.

WulawHorn · « **Reply #94 on:** March 14, 2006, 01:43:01 pm »

the concepts of logic and reading comprehension seem to be foreign to you. I just reread my intial post and I made mention of 12 separate teams in it, of which UT received only 2 sentences.

I don't think this Texas team is a national championship team, I have not argued anywhere that they were. Just b/c they aren't national championship though does not mean that the brackets were good. I have more of a problem with MSU and UNC then UT's placement, and I thought I made that point abundantly clear.

WulawHorn · « **Reply #97 on:** March 14, 2006, 01:54:16 pm »

Again- reread my initial post. I just did and it had ONE fucking sentence about UT in it, with about 20 sentences total. How can 5% of a post be a UT bitch session?

WulawHorn · « **Reply #99 on:** March 14, 2006, 02:14:50 pm »

What I don't understand is how you get that I'm dreaming up a conspiracy against texas when they were mentioned in one sentence, amongst 8-12 other teams.

Author Topic: College Baseball (Read 16915 times)

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