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Rose Bowl Anticipation
« on: December 31, 2005, 08:44:05 am »
I haven't felt this way since the Astros were in the World Series. I fear a similar let down. Can someone pick me up? Do the Horns have a chance?
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2005, 10:24:46 am »
Horn's mash Trojans.  Think ORANGE!  Hook'em horns!

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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2005, 10:46:54 am »
You know that quote isn't from Royal right?

It's from Senaca (not Wallace). A 1st century Roman philosopher.

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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2005, 11:28:03 am »
Sorry never been to Rome, and I'm not that old.  The Link

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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2005, 11:36:39 am »
who needs the rose bowl... at least today the height of the sports world is the nsu demons (my and my daughers school) play the aggies today  in college station in basketball.. i expected it to be the lead  story on yahoo sports can you imagine it not being? geeze someone needs to get theri priorities staight
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2005, 11:50:27 am »
Doesn't really matter how old you are.  There are about a jillion coaches who have been credited with that saying.  All of them were copying someone else.

If you want a real quote from Royal, how about..."I really hate recruiting black kids, and I don't like scholarship limits, so I quit."

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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2005, 12:17:46 pm »
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Doesn't really matter how old you are.  There are about a jillion coaches who have been credited with that saying.  All of them were copying someone else.

If you want a real quote from Royal, how about..."I really hate recruiting black kids, and I don't like scholarship limits, so I quit."





How about, "Dance with the one who brung ya." I doubt he was the first to say that.
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2005, 12:47:47 pm »
Bullshit.

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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2005, 01:34:18 pm »
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If you want a real quote from Royal, how about..."I really hate recruiting black kids, and I don't like scholarship limits, so I quit."





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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2005, 02:27:33 pm »
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I haven't felt this way since the Astros were in the World Series. I fear a similar let down. Can someone pick me up? Do the Horns have a chance?




i'm not as excited about the game as i thought i'd be, and there's three words that explain why:  mack fucking brown.  the guy is still a shitty coach, as is his buddy greg "zone read" davis, and i'm apalled that anybody thinks this has changed.  mack brown to me represents, or more appropriately perhaps, is the ambassador of everything wrong with the football factory concept.  the guy is a politician at his most fundamental level, who suceeds at lying to boosters so that they'll give their money to the school (which, in a not-that-indirect way enables his multi-million dollar salary), and he suceeds at saying the right enough thing to young black and white kids and their middle-aged handlers that lets them know that they should spend their next 4-5 years getting paid to play football in Austin instead of Miami.

after ut got blown out by oklahoma two years ago i was listening to the postgame show on klbj.  On this show (the jeff ward/ ed clements one) tons of people were calling in saying "mack brown lied to us", implying that the sportsmanlike dominance which mack himself had implied (implying rather than actually stating being an old politician standby) was a fraud.  This overwhelming reaction was interesting to me because people weren't calling in saying "mack brown had the wrong game plan in place against quentin griffin" or "mack brown should have played vince young from the start of the game", but "mack brown lied to us."  People were hearing the calm, optimistic cadence in his pre and postgame voice, and then seeing his surly, frazzled sideline demeanor.  They were looking at a roster of the best players money can buy, then watching the game helplessly while those players appeared confused and underdeveloped at the tutelage of second-rate coaches.  People were starting to realize the lies, much like an electorate starts to realize a politician's perpetual lies while the economy is slumping, and now that the team is winning, conveniently in a year that oklahoma had a down year, people have conveniently forgotten.  "Live the dream", they write on their bumper stickers and office buildings.  Live the dream.  Lest we forget that the tour guide of our dream is the same piece of shit who played Chris Simms for two ears over the greatest quarterback ever to wear burnt orange, all because of a deal he made with his daddy.  Nepotism and cronyism-- another political standby.

Two signs from this past season that feed my ambivalent disdain:

1.  knocking colorado quarterback joel klatt unconscious on an all-out blitz (the third in that series) with the team already up by 50 or 60 points.  it was bad enough to run up the score against freaking louisiana lafayette a couple of weeks after hurricane katrina, but this was way worse.  to put aside basic sportsmanship ethics just to earn a couple of extra votes from some random ap voter is pretty lame.

2.  the cover-up of the whole cedric griffin/ramonce taylor situation.  issues like these are what make it most fundamentally difficult to get too emotionally invested in the football factory.  hey, i love my school too, and i like a good football game as much as anybody else, but i'm not going to pretend that these athleticly gifted brats are above the law or above the standards of the universtity.  i had a friend who got kicked out of ut for smoking a joint NEAR campus.  these guys don't even have to miss a practice.

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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2005, 03:00:49 pm »
Andy, that is not even close to true about DKR. i hope that was an uncharacteristically lame attempt at a joke.

shut the fuck up, Joey. your aggy-like comments are laughable. Brown must have pissed in your cheerios or told you no more blow jobs for Major.

your #2 is defamatory and nine million miles from the truth. it is people like you who give UT fans a bad name.
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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2005, 03:46:17 pm »
Help me here. I've read your post twice but still don't get it. What exactly are the lies? or are you just saying Brown is not what he seems to be? I've always thought Brown was overpaid seeing that he never won a conference championship until this season but I never considered him a fraud or a liar. He may get beat by better coaches but I don't know if there is anyone in America I would rather have my son play college football for. I suggest a small book called Raising Cole by Marc Pittman, father of the late Cole Pittman who played for Brown and was killed in a car wreck. Remember, Texas almost ended up with Gary Barnett and I'm thinking we got the better end of that deal.

I don't believe Brown told Kelson to knock Klatt out of the game with a shot to the head.

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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2005, 04:49:01 pm »
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Help me here. I've read your post twice but still don't get it. What exactly are the lies? or are you just saying Brown is not what he seems to be? I've always thought Brown was overpaid seeing that he never won a conference championship until this season but I never considered him a fraud or a liar. He may get beat by better coaches but I don't know if there is anyone in America I would rather have my son play college football for. I suggest a small book called Raising Cole by Marc Pittman, father of the late Cole Pittman who played for Brown and was killed in a car wreck. Remember, Texas almost ended up with Gary Barnett and I'm thinking we got the better end of that deal.

I don't believe Brown told Kelson to knock Klatt out of the game with a shot to the head.





you read my post twice?  that's probably two too many.

anyway, the "lie" is what seemed to be the response of many fans after the blowout loss against OU two years ago; the perception being that Mack promised that the team would be dominant game in and game out.  after yet another humiliating loss to an arch rival, people were starting to think that Mack was all talk and was just saying whatever in order to make fans, recruits, alumni, and boosters happy.

i don't like mack because of the politician schtick.  it is a schtick that seemed to be wearing thin as recently as last year, but then after winning the rose bowl and having an undefeated season, all of a sudden we're "living the dream."  

i don't know all the facts of the griffin/taylor episode, so i admit that i overspoke.  against colorado, texas was still calling all-out blitzes after already being up by 50; texas didn't do stuff like that in year's past, but this year it seems commonplace.

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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2005, 05:07:57 pm »
Never heard that one Andy, I just like that quote.  Of course all things are possible.  But I think Texas wins, and I'll quote Seneca for you "...he that has least to lose has least to fear.."  It would seem that the pressure will be on the Trojans, hometown, number 1, the are the favorite.

I'm really not interested in "philosophical debate" I'm a fan who wants their team to win, but in the end does any of this matter at all?  Besides - "The best ideas are common property." Seneca, Epistles

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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2005, 05:42:22 pm »
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I haven't felt this way since the Astros were in the World Series. I fear a similar let down. Can someone pick me up? Do the Horns have a chance?




Two signs from this past season that feed my ambivalent disdain:

1.  knocking colorado quarterback joel klatt unconscious on an all-out blitz (the third in that series) with the team already up by 50 or 60 points.  it was bad enough to run up the score against freaking louisiana lafayette a couple of weeks after hurricane katrina, but this was way worse.  to put aside basic sportsmanship ethics just to earn a couple of extra votes from some random ap voter is pretty lame.

2.  the cover-up of the whole cedric griffin/ramonce taylor situation.  issues like these are what make it most fundamentally difficult to get too emotionally invested in the football factory.  hey, i love my school too, and i like a good football game as much as anybody else, but i'm not going to pretend that these athleticly gifted brats are above the law or above the standards of the universtity.  i had a friend who got kicked out of ut for smoking a joint NEAR campus.  these guys don't even have to miss a practice.




You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about, so I suggest you stop talking, to save face here.

1)  The hit on Klatt wasn't intentional, and it was unfortunate.   The horns pulled all the starters after it got ugly in the 3rd(70-3, which by the way was due to multiple second half colorado turnovers).   You want to know why the Horns blitzed?  A better question is why was Klatt still playing, and why were they throwing the ball doing 67 points in the middle of the third quarter?  Don't say to make a comeback because that wasn't happening at that point.  Also, do you realize it is even more of an insult to the opposing team to stop playing at a full speed?

2)  Cedric and Ramonce and another starter had a VERBAL altercation.   Nothing more nothing less.   They have nothing to cover up, because the incident wasn't criminal in the first place.   Mack runs a clean program, btw.  

3) We already played a game against a better defense than SC, and that was a true road game at Ohio State.   Btw did you know Vince had more total yards than the entire OSU offense.  And Greg Davis got the job done then, like he did in another big game in last year's Rose Bowl when Vince made jaws drop like crazy vs Michigan.   Two years ago after the holiday bowl loss to WSU I would have agreed with you about the staff, not now.

4)  I love our position as a Texas fan and graduate.   ESPN has made it so most people think we can't win the game, so we have nothing to lose and everything to gain.   And this Texas team has great line play, an underrated stable of running backs, productive WR's, and one of the best secondaries in college football.   Not to mention Vince Young, who is something like 29-2 as a starter at Texas.
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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2005, 06:07:54 pm »
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Andy, that is not even close to true about DKR. i hope that was an uncharacteristically lame attempt at a joke.

shut the fuck up, Joey. your aggy-like comments are laughable. Brown must have pissed in your cheerios or told you no more blow jobs for Major.

your #2 is defamatory and nine million miles from the truth. it is people like you who give UT fans a bad name.





Jim R,

You're approaching 7,500 posts about the Astros, AND you know Horns football?! That is a seriously vast sum of sports knowledge. Do you work in sports?

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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2005, 06:28:21 pm »
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2005, 06:39:13 pm »
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« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2005, 07:49:05 pm »
Hate to burst the bubble for all you longhorn fans, but, USC is going to cruise.  Texas has padded their personal stats while preening for the NFL draft by playing in the weakest "major" conference probably in the history of NCAA football.  Mediocrity has set in in the "big" 12 and texas got lucky enough to have a large senior class when it took place.  Next season texas will be settled back among the mediocre crying that MAck Brown called bad defensive sets in the Rose Bowl in which they allowed USC to score 50+ points.  Sorry guys... go Trojans!

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« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2005, 08:50:01 pm »
The "weakest" conference produced eight bowl teams and, so far, four bowl winners, including a four-loss OU beat #6 Oregon.  All that has to count for something.

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« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2005, 10:30:43 pm »
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The "weakest" conference produced eight bowl teams and, so far, four bowl winners, including a four-loss OU beat #6 Oregon.  All that has to count for something.




Not to mention USC's near loss to Fresno State. The Fresno State that lost to Tulsa tonight. TULSA.  And Louisiana Tech and Nevada before that.

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« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2005, 11:14:40 pm »
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Hate to burst the bubble for all you longhorn fans, but, USC is going to cruise.  Texas has padded their personal stats while preening for the NFL draft by playing in the weakest "major" conference probably in the history of NCAA football.  Mediocrity has set in in the "big" 12 and texas got lucky enough to have a large senior class when it took place.  Next season texas will be settled back among the mediocre crying that MAck Brown called bad defensive sets in the Rose Bowl in which they allowed USC to score 50+ points.  Sorry guys... go Trojans!




Let me get this straight?   A pac 10 fan telling anyone about how dominant their conference is right now.   I'm laughing as I type this out.   Your conference's only other supposed "elite" team got beat by a big 12 school in Oklahoma.  Sorry, that UCLA team that got embarrassed by Arizona doesn't qualify, as that Arizona team is bad.  Arizona State had to scrape by Rutgers, playing in their home state, and Rutgers hadn't been to a bowl game in 30 plus years.   Cal beat BYU, no different than Kansas over Houston.  

Then we get to Notre Dame.  A team that just like Cal the year before was in the BCS race on the virtue of a close loss to USC.   Their only good win was against Michigan(who lost 5 games this year).   Texas beat a team better than ND, in fact that team, the OSU buckeyes, plays ND Monday in the Fiesta Bowl.  Then you'll want to say Fresno.   Sorry, but after 4 straight losses, 3 of which came to Nevada, La Tech and Tulsa, they have been exposed to have been dare I say: overrated.  

Texas has the highest scoring offense in the nation, and a defense statistically ranked in the top 10, allowing 14.6 ppg.   USC, averaged more yards but less points than Texas, and on defense allowed 21.3 ppg.   Yet somehow they are favored by 8 points? I understand USC has a nice 34 game winning streak, but Texas has a 19 game streak of its own.

You USC fans like to say look we beat another big 12 school last year in OU.  Problem is there aren't many if any similarities between our teams, and your defense is a lot weaker this year.   In fact, everyone who had extensively watched OU knew that they are continually vunerable against the deep pass, and that has been the case for years.   That is because of how Stoops coaches his secondary.   Texas conversely has one of the best if not the best secondary in the nation.

This is going to be a great game, and as a UT grad and supporter I like our chances to play well and win.
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« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2006, 12:51:59 am »
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Andy, that is not even close to true about DKR. i hope that was an uncharacteristically lame attempt at a joke.

shut the fuck up, Joey. your aggy-like comments are laughable. Brown must have pissed in your cheerios or told you no more blow jobs for Major.

your #2 is defamatory and nine million miles from the truth. it is people like you who give UT fans a bad name.





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You're approaching 7,500 posts about the Astros, AND you know Horns football?! That is a seriously vast sum of sports knowledge. Do you work in sports?





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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2006, 01:31:04 am »
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I haven't felt this way since the Astros were in the World Series. I fear a similar let down. Can someone pick me up? Do the Horns have a chance?




i'm not as excited about the game as i thought i'd be, and there's three words that explain why:  mack fucking brown.  the guy is still a shitty coach, as is his buddy greg "zone read" davis, and i'm apalled that anybody thinks this has changed.  mack brown to me represents, or more appropriately perhaps, is the ambassador of everything wrong with the football factory concept.  the guy is a politician at his most fundamental level, who suceeds at lying to boosters so that they'll give their money to the school (which, in a not-that-indirect way enables his multi-million dollar salary), and he suceeds at saying the right enough thing to young black and white kids and their middle-aged handlers that lets them know that they should spend their next 4-5 years getting paid to play football in Austin instead of Miami.

after ut got blown out by oklahoma two years ago i was listening to the postgame show on klbj.  On this show (the jeff ward/ ed clements one) tons of people were calling in saying "mack brown lied to us", implying that the sportsmanlike dominance which mack himself had implied (implying rather than actually stating being an old politician standby) was a fraud.  This overwhelming reaction was interesting to me because people weren't calling in saying "mack brown had the wrong game plan in place against quentin griffin" or "mack brown should have played vince young from the start of the game", but "mack brown lied to us."  People were hearing the calm, optimistic cadence in his pre and postgame voice, and then seeing his surly, frazzled sideline demeanor.  They were looking at a roster of the best players money can buy, then watching the game helplessly while those players appeared confused and underdeveloped at the tutelage of second-rate coaches.  People were starting to realize the lies, much like an electorate starts to realize a politician's perpetual lies while the economy is slumping, and now that the team is winning, conveniently in a year that oklahoma had a down year, people have conveniently forgotten.  "Live the dream", they write on their bumper stickers and office buildings.  Live the dream.  Lest we forget that the tour guide of our dream is the same piece of shit who played Chris Simms for two ears over the greatest quarterback ever to wear burnt orange, all because of a deal he made with his daddy.  Nepotism and cronyism-- another political standby.

Two signs from this past season that feed my ambivalent disdain:

1.  knocking colorado quarterback joel klatt unconscious on an all-out blitz (the third in that series) with the team already up by 50 or 60 points.  it was bad enough to run up the score against freaking louisiana lafayette a couple of weeks after hurricane katrina, but this was way worse.  to put aside basic sportsmanship ethics just to earn a couple of extra votes from some random ap voter is pretty lame.

2.  the cover-up of the whole cedric griffin/ramonce taylor situation.  issues like these are what make it most fundamentally difficult to get too emotionally invested in the football factory.  hey, i love my school too, and i like a good football game as much as anybody else, but i'm not going to pretend that these athleticly gifted brats are above the law or above the standards of the universtity.  i had a friend who got kicked out of ut for smoking a joint NEAR campus.  these guys don't even have to miss a practice.




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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2006, 08:50:18 am »
USC is going to boofoo Texas into oblivion.  I hope Vince Young blows out both knees sucking off Herbstreit's and Corso's cocks

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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2006, 06:32:07 pm »
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It's confusing for a dumbass to follow but I was asking about a football game, not your gay-sex rape fantasy.

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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2006, 09:37:44 pm »
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USC is going to boofoo Texas into oblivion.  I hope Vince Young blows out both knees sucking off Herbstreit's and Corso's cocks




It's confusing for a dumbass to follow but I was asking about a football game, not your gay-sex rape fantasy.

Corso has a cock?





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« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2006, 12:58:20 pm »
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Tap the breaks there, Chief.

First off, what the hell does "boofoo" mean? And why would VY suck off Herbstreit? Kirk has hardly been a proponent of Young's or Texas' greatness the past two seasons.

The ESPN hype machine is out of control. And I hope everyone in the country expects USC to roll us, since it has absolutely zero bearing on the game. In about 34 hours people will realize just how good this Texas team really is.

Hook'Em!

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« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2006, 01:41:08 pm »
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USC is going to boofoo Texas into oblivion.  I hope Vince Young blows out both knees sucking off Herbstreit's and Corso's cocks




Tap the breaks there, Chief.

First off, what the hell does "boofoo" mean? And why would VY suck off Herbstreit? Kirk has hardly been a proponent of Young's or Texas' greatness the past two seasons.

The ESPN hype machine is out of control. And I hope everyone in the country expects USC to roll us, since it has absolutely zero bearing on the game. In about 34 hours people will realize just how good this Texas team really is.

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« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2006, 02:43:37 pm »
It's amazing to see such an incredible collection of asinine posts in such a short thread. About every third one so far has spiked off the top off the Stupid Meter. As for the game, I agree with the sentiment that this avalanche of USC hype that's been thundering down the side of Mt. ESPN for the last few weeks is bound to be good for the Horns.

Sure, let's ramble on about 30-whatever wins in a row, ignoring completely that this particular USC group has exactly 12 wins in a row, like their opponent. Let's anoint the Trojans right now as the greatest team in history, based on their 1.5 national championships. We'll just grant that they've already won the game on paper, even though they have neither a better offense nor a better defense than UT. I love that ESPN has decided that the Trojans are the best ever. Now, when the Horns go out and beat them, I'm just going to have to assume that the Horns are the greatest team in college football history. Like Highlander or something. Makes sense.
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Re: Rose Bowl Anticipation
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2006, 03:22:17 pm »
Honestly I think anything can happen in this game. It's hard to tell what kind of effect the month-long layoff will have, and there's no way to look at on-paper match-ups and confidently one thing or another will definitely happen.

I will not be surprised if either team comes out and wins by a few touchdowns. I will not be surprised if the game ends on a field goal as time expires.

In fact the only thing that would surprise me about this game is if either team rolled over and just stopped trying.

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« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2006, 04:22:48 pm »
Whatever you do, just don't make my favorite future Texan go all Willis McGahee on his knees.  Other than that I don't care too much about the game.

As long as we're all talking football, interesting that Bob McNair plans to interview both Gary Kubiak and Jerry Gray for the vacant head coaching job.  Being an SC (South Carolina, that is) grad, he's a rather ecumenical sort for these here parts.
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« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2006, 06:15:17 pm »
I don't think I'm going to watch more games if he hires a Texan.  I just want someone who can help make that team competitive.

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« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2006, 06:17:19 pm »
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As long as we're all talking football, interesting that Bob McNair plans to interview both Gary Kubiak and Jerry Gray for the vacant head coaching job.  Being an SC (South Carolina, that is) grad, he's a rather ecumenical sort for these here parts.





What I find interesting, and not in a good way, is that Kubiak's name has been coming up for head coaching jobs for years now.  Yet he never seems to get one.
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« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2006, 06:23:55 pm »
The only "Texan" I'm interested in is Reggie Bush.  I don't really care where the next head coach went to college, I just thought it was kind of ironic that the first two prospective interviewees were ATM and UT alums, respectively.
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« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2006, 06:25:28 pm »
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And it's not like these coaches are vying for a spot in Mensa's football tactician division. It should be amusing to watch those two overexert themselves trying to out-think the other.
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« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2006, 06:39:51 pm »
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As long as we're all talking football, interesting that Bob McNair plans to interview both Gary Kubiak and Jerry Gray for the vacant head coaching job.  Being an SC (South Carolina, that is) grad, he's a rather ecumenical sort for these here parts.





What I find interesting, and not in a good way, is that Kubiak's name has been coming up for head coaching jobs for years now.  Yet he never seems to get one.



According to John McClain's sources, he's a bad interview.  He's discussed it personally with Kubiak, telling him he should hire a professional interview coach or something.  But Kubiak doesn't seem to care.  He said if it's all because he's not impressive enough in the interview process, fine.  He'll just stay where he is; Shanahan seems to be grooming him as his successor.  He doesn't seem interested in going out of his way to change.

But apparently McNair's ready to give him another chance, even though he already interviewed him for the same job four years ago.

I've lost some respect for McNair with his rather meritless decision to keep Casserly (I think he just doesn't want the hassle of finding a new GM and starting over with building relationships, etc.), so I have no idea whether he'll pick the best man for the job this time.  Whoever that may be.
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« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2006, 10:03:23 am »
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My NFL knowledge is slim since the Oilers left town, but how many years does Jeff Fisher have left on his contract with the Titans?  Seems like the city of Houston would really get behind a guy him agian.

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« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2006, 11:02:20 am »
As has been said, he's not a good interview.

On the other hand, he was offered and briefly accepted the HC job at the University of Colorado, and then flaked out and stayed with Shanahan.

He has declined to interview a few other places (even though he was named as a candidate) because he either wants to be coaching in Colorado or Texas and no where else.

He was supposedly miserable in San Francisco for a couple years as an offensive coach there...

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« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2006, 11:07:20 am »
FWIW, Mark Berman reported last night that he is their leading candidate to replace Capers.
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« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2006, 02:07:25 pm »
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As has been said, he's not a good interview.

On the other hand, he was offered and briefly accepted the HC job at the University of Colorado, and then flaked out and stayed with Shanahan.

He has declined to interview a few other places (even though he was named as a candidate) because he either wants to be coaching in Colorado or Texas and no where else.

He was supposedly miserable in San Francisco for a couple years as an offensive coach there...





I'd be curious to know what exactly makes him a "bad interview", especially considering he's a well know, and well respected coach.  

I like the idea of an offensive minded head coach because the offense is a problem.  But then again, so is the defense.  I wonder if part of the reason McNair went with Capers over Kubiak in the first place was the whole "expansion, need to get started out slow and steady" kind of deal, which was Capers' specialty.  Given that they're basically starting over, I wonder if that will be an issue with Kubiak again.
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« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2006, 02:48:35 pm »
I'm not a Texans fan, but if my team needed a coach I'd love to get Jerry Gray on board.

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As has been said, he's not a good interview.

On the other hand, he was offered and briefly accepted the HC job at the University of Colorado, and then flaked out and stayed with Shanahan.

He has declined to interview a few other places (even though he was named as a candidate) because he either wants to be coaching in Colorado or Texas and no where else.

He was supposedly miserable in San Francisco for a couple years as an offensive coach there...





I'd be curious to know what exactly makes him a "bad interview", especially considering he's a well know, and well respected coach.  

I like the idea of an offensive minded head coach because the offense is a problem.  But then again, so is the defense.  I wonder if part of the reason McNair went with Capers over Kubiak in the first place was the whole "expansion, need to get started out slow and steady" kind of deal, which was Capers' specialty.  Given that they're basically starting over, I wonder if that will be an issue with Kubiak again.



McClain described it as sort of an "aw shucks" style he gives off in the interview.  Not prepared, not asking the right questions, you know, like any job interview.  This phoniness you're supposed to carry off in the process is one of the big problems I have with most interviews.  Never mind can you do the job or not and do you seem like a guy they'd like to work with.

As far as Capers, he had prior NFL head coaching experience, which at the time was a preference of McNair's.  Now maybe not so much.
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Sorry, that UCLA team that got embarrassed by Arizona doesn't qualify, as that Arizona team is bad.  




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« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2006, 09:46:45 am »
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