Author Topic: my opinion only (Read 4883 times)

JimR · « **on:** October 23, 2005, 01:43:02 pm »

much like after the first StL game, i was encouraged last night. we can play with them, but, unlike StL, we need to do it against the starters. Jenks last night overmatched the entire team. Clemens was not very good, and they played great defense when we had chances to score. i expect that his "injury" will be all better by Game 5. a win tonight puts us back on track.

astro pete · « **Reply #1 on:** October 23, 2005, 02:13:18 pm »

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much like after the first StL game, i was encouraged last night. we can play with them, but, unlike StL, we need to do it against the starters. Jenks last night overmatched the entire team. Clemens was not very good, and they played great defense when we had chances to score. i expect that his "injury" will be all better by Game 5. a win tonight puts us back on track.

What makes you suspect Clemens' leaving the game was not due to his hamstring?

JimR · « **Reply #2 on:** October 23, 2005, 02:17:55 pm »

saw the same thing, same "injury" in ST after he gave up 7 ER on a cold, rainy night.

he was not getting them out and it was cold. great way to get him out of there and preserve the Legend.

JimR · « **Reply #4 on:** October 23, 2005, 02:25:22 pm »

he has been open. it ain't the stance.

if Clemens misses Game 5, he's hurt.

jaklewein · « **Reply #5 on:** October 23, 2005, 02:28:28 pm »

Not to change the subject, but were you suprised that Garner didn't PH for Lamb with Burke against Cotts (sp?)....or no due to the fact that Garner'd rather have Lamb vs. Cotts over Burke vs. Jenks?

JimR · « **Reply #6 on:** October 23, 2005, 02:30:54 pm »

no. Lamb hits LHP just fine.

Matt · « **Reply #7 on:** October 23, 2005, 02:44:39 pm »

Yeah I think if Burke goes in for Lamb there, Jenks probably comes in. He was up and ready. Lamb went up there hacking though.

juliogotay · « **Reply #8 on:** October 23, 2005, 02:45:57 pm »

I enjoy strong opinions even when I disagree. But, are you saying you suspect Clemens was jaking it?

JimR · « **Reply #9 on:** October 23, 2005, 02:48:16 pm »

nope. it was time to get him out of there. he asked to stay, or so they say, but why? 3 runs and 54 pitches in 2 innings. Wandy was warming up in the 2nd. pull him and blame the hamstring. works for everyone.

juliogotay · « **Reply #10 on:** October 23, 2005, 02:51:46 pm »

ok. I didn't think he was the same pitcher in the second inning that he was the first which is why I buy into the injury aggrevation. Plus Ausmus said he was throwing well in the pen and in the first.

JimR · « **Reply #11 on:** October 23, 2005, 02:53:23 pm »

like i said, if he misses Game 5, he's hurt.

juliogotay · « **Reply #12 on:** October 23, 2005, 02:55:36 pm »

Or he could be hurt and still start game 5 trying to give them 3-4 innings on one leg.

JimR · « **Reply #13 on:** October 23, 2005, 02:58:47 pm »

not likely.

juliogotay · « **Reply #15 on:** October 23, 2005, 03:22:49 pm »

Why is it not plausible that injury led to his not being to finish them off? If his leg effected him 2% isn't it enough to diminish his effectiveness?

Matt · « **Reply #17 on:** October 23, 2005, 03:52:18 pm »

Don't you think Jenks would have come in to face Burke? Once he did do you think Burke would have had a chance?

Bench · « **Reply #21 on:** October 23, 2005, 05:08:54 pm »

It was a winnable game, definately a lot like NLCS Game 1. I think most of the series will be that way for both sides, considering neither team is likely to pound the other out of the water. If the Astros keep getting RISP with <2 outs, I think we'll be happy with the outcome.

Five runs seems to be the Astros' magic number. Give up 5 or more, they lose. I suspect that isn't much of a departure for most teams, so it's hardly a brilliant observation.

astro pete · « **Reply #22 on:** October 23, 2005, 05:18:00 pm »

Did the White Sox put a runner on base every inning? That trend must stop.

JimR · « **Reply #24 on:** October 23, 2005, 05:24:56 pm »

screw what you expect, David. Lamb has good swings against LHP, and he had good swings last night. Burke against Jenks last night? ha!

JimR · « **Reply #27 on:** October 24, 2005, 03:31:27 pm »

i do not know about the rest of that, but i believe Clemens will be miraculously restored if we can take it to 5.

CrawfordBoxes · « **Reply #28 on:** October 24, 2005, 06:26:52 pm »

I agree. Possibly his last start he will be stoked.

JimR · « **Reply #29 on:** October 24, 2005, 06:31:27 pm »

my comment about Jenks was Game 1.