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Oswalt on Letterman
« on: October 21, 2005, 10:00:11 am »
Last night Oswalt (from "YOUR" Houston Astros) was on Letterman, reading the Top Ten Perks Of Getting Into The World Series via Satellite from Minute Maid Park.  The list:

10. "Another two weeks of wearing a cup and showering with guys"

9. "Get to visit exotic, far-off destinations like Illinois"

8. "More time to discuss with team doctor if Cialis is right for me"

7. "With the discount, beer is only 18 bucks"

6. "It's fine and all, but the good news is, I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to Geico"

5. "Certificate good for one free groin pull"

4. "I get to appear on my favorite Late Night program---'The Tonight Show with Jay Leno'"

3. "World Series MVP gets to throw switch at Saddam's execution"

2. "Clemens used his AARP card to get us cheap hotel rooms"

1. "If Steinbrenner wants me next year, my price is now a billion dollars"
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Re: Oswalt on Letterman
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2005, 10:11:10 am »
Dammit, I passed out early last night and missed it.  If anyone can find a link on line to it, please post.
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Re: Oswalt on Letterman
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2005, 10:22:10 am »
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1. "If Steinbrenner wants me next year, my price is now a billion dollars"



That would be 100x funnier if it wasn't true.
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Re: Oswalt on Letterman
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2005, 10:30:51 am »
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1. "If Steinbrenner wants me next year, my price is now a billion dollars"



That would be 100x funnier if it wasn't true.



And worth every penny.
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Re: Oswalt on Letterman
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2005, 11:00:48 am »
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5. "Certificate good for one free groin pull"


Thank fuck Roy-O is pitching Game #3 down here, rather than in the chilly rain of Chicago this weekend.

However, I am scared shitless about the Rocket's hammy.
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Re: Oswalt on Letterman
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2005, 11:01:40 am »
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5. "Certificate good for one free groin pull"


Thank fuck Roy-O is pitching Game #3 down here, rather than in the chilly rain of Chicago this weekend.

However, I am scared shitless about the Rocket's hammy.



Fuck the cold!  We've got duct tape.  We've got bailing wire.  His hamstring will be fine, I tells ya.
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Re: Oswalt on Letterman
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2005, 11:05:30 am »
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Fuck the cold!  We've got duct tape.  We've got bailing wire.  His hamstring will be fine, I tells ya.



Also, at least he won't have to be running around the bases in Chicago.  (Not that he does much of that anyway.)  As much as I loathe the DH, in this case I'll make an exception and be glad it's there for the game.
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Re: Oswalt on Letterman
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2005, 11:20:05 am »
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Also, at least he won't have to be running around the bases in Chicago.  (Not that he does much of that anyway.)  As much as I loathe the DH, in this case I'll make an exception and be glad it's there for the game.


Good point about not running the bases.

I think the DH really helps Houston.  They lose C4 when playing down here but we gain Bagwell when playing up there.  I also wonder, given that these are likely to be low-scoring affairs, how Guillen will handle pitching changes and double-switches.  If it gets crazy like Game #4 of the NLDS, I think Garner's got a big advantage.
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Re: Oswalt on Letterman
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2005, 11:22:52 am »
I'm wondering how much Bagwell will DH.  Against righthanders, wouldn't it be better to DH Lamb?  It puts better defense in the field.
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Re: Oswalt on Letterman
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2005, 11:23:10 am »
Clemens numbers at U.S. Cellular Field (Since Rocket pre-dates Yahoo's record kieeping, these numbers are since 1987)
 
Games: 10
Wins: 4
Loses: 3
CG: 2
IP: 64.0
H: 59
R:30
ER: 28
HR: 6
BB:19
K:47
ERA: 3.94
WHIP:1.22
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Re: Oswalt on Letterman
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2005, 11:30:59 am »
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I'm wondering how much Bagwell will DH.  Against righthanders, wouldn't it be better to DH Lamb?  It puts better defense in the field.


I want him in there for sentimental reasons as much as anything else.  However, I'm not so sure that Lamb is a better choice regardless: I trust Baggy to take what is given or work a walk more than Lamb.  Baggy notswinging for the fences will cut done on his strikeouts, while Lamb is prone to them (as was Baggy or any hitter looking to bomb one).

What the line-up cannot afford is unproductive outs.  If Lane is going to be playing (and why wouldn't he be), then I prefer Baggy behind him to pick up the RBIs or at least extend an inning of Lane Ks.
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Re: Oswalt on Letterman
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2005, 11:59:23 am »
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Also, at least he won't have to be running around the bases in Chicago.  (Not that he does much of that anyway.)  As much as I loathe the DH, in this case I'll make an exception and be glad it's there for the game.


Good point about not running the bases.

I think the DH really helps Houston.  They lose C4 when playing down here but we gain Bagwell when playing up there.  I also wonder, given that these are likely to be low-scoring affairs, how Guillen will handle pitching changes and double-switches.  If it gets crazy like Game #4 of the NLDS, I think Garner's got a big advantage.



I know this is kinda new thing with Houston and all,but doesn't the AL have to deal with this sort of thing every World Series?
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2005, 12:08:55 pm »
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I know this is kinda new thing with Houston and all,but doesn't the AL have to deal with this sort of thing every World Series?


Yep, but Guillen a relative newcomer to managing and has no NL experience (IIRC).  Other managers have overall experience and/or NL experience when they get here.

Also, not many NL clubs have had a legendary hitter sitting on the bench every day.  They usually get to put in their best power option off the bench, but that would be a Lamb-type player, not a future HoFer.

You are correct that this is a question every year, I simply feel that some special circumstances this year make it different.
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Re: Oswalt on Letterman
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2005, 12:11:53 pm »
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If anyone can find a link on line to it, please post.



My PC is supposed to record Letterman and Leno every night, on the off-chance that they'll have someone on that I want to see.  When I get out of this damn class, I'll go home and check about last night.
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Re: Oswalt on Letterman
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2005, 12:13:10 pm »
Sentimental: check.

Reality: I hope there would be a good reason for Bagwell to DH.

Bagwell has a better eye, but will he be rusty?

I really want to believe Bagwell will go in there and get some solid hits or draw walks, but is he ready? I guess the best way to know is to see if Garner puts him in there. If he does, they think he is ready. I haven't seen Scrap Iron do anything sentimental in the playoffs, yet, and I don't think he will.

Other things crossing my mind: What circumstances would lose you your DH for a game?

With Bagwell DHing, we can have both him AND Lamb in the lineup at the same time. Bagwell isn't going to play the field (duh), and having his bat, if ready, in the lienup all the time is probably better that not having it in the lineup, PHing him, and then using another player have to cvome in to replace him again in the field.

Like I said, I think if Garner puts him in the DH, Bagwell has shown him he is ready to contribute and he think it leaves his best options still open.
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Re: Oswalt on Letterman
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2005, 12:16:28 pm »
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You are correct that this is a question every year, I simply feel that some special circumstances this year make it different.



OK, that is what I wanted to hear. You were typing my thoughts, but I wanted confirmation that others see reasons that this is a unique situation.
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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2005, 12:19:29 pm »
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If anyone can find a link on line to it, please post.



My PC is supposed to record Letterman and Leno every night, on the off-chance that they'll have someone on that I want to see.  When I get out of this damn class, I'll go home and check about last night.



Cool and thanks.
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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2005, 12:26:55 pm »
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OK, that is what I wanted to hear. You were typing my thoughts, but I wanted confirmation that others see reasons that this is a unique situation.


Given our diverse upbringings, this is either proof of the accurracy of the theory, or proof of intelligent design.
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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2005, 12:28:50 pm »
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OK, that is what I wanted to hear. You were typing my thoughts, but I wanted confirmation that others see reasons that this is a unique situation.


Given our diverse upbringings, this is either proof of the accurracy of the theory, or proof of intelligent design.



I would have thought it more a sign that you need to rethink your theory if I agreed with it.
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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2005, 12:30:06 pm »
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Yep, but Guillen a relative newcomer to managing and has no NL experience (IIRC).

 He does have a year with Atlanta according to the White Sox web site.    link
 
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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2005, 12:32:52 pm »
You can see the clip of Roy on Letterman over at KHOU.COM
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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2005, 12:38:05 pm »
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Like I said, I think if Garner puts him in the DH, Bagwell has shown him he is ready to contribute and he think it leaves his best options still open.



Also Bagwell's reputation, regardless of the shoulder problems, will keep Guillen from aggressively going after him. That could create better looks for the guys hitting around him. His appraisal of the strike zone is also probably still the best on the team.
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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2005, 12:43:15 pm »
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Like I said, I think if Garner puts him in the DH, Bagwell has shown him he is ready to contribute and he think it leaves his best options still open.



Also Bagwell's reputation, regardless of the shoulder problems, will keep Guillen from aggressively going after him. That could create better looks for the guys hitting around him. His appraisal of the strike zone is also probably still the best on the team.



That's why I look for Bags to bat third, just like he always did. Berkman cleanup, MoBerg 5th.
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2005, 12:43:51 pm »
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Clemens numbers at U.S. Cellular Field (Since Rocket pre-dates Yahoo's record kieeping, these numbers are since 1987)



The first year in U.S. Cellular (aka Comiskey 2) was 1991.
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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2005, 12:49:51 pm »
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That's why I look for Bags to bat third, just like he always did. Berkman cleanup, MoBerg 5th.


I still prefer Berkman at #3, because he can pop one or get a double even if the first two go down for nought.  I also like Baggy hitting behind Lane as it  might help Lane get something to hit and Bags can pick him up if he Ks.

2B Biggio
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« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2005, 12:56:08 pm »
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That's why I look for Bags to bat third, just like he always did. Berkman cleanup, MoBerg 5th.


I still prefer Berkman at #3, because he can pop one or get a double even if the first two go down for nought.  I also like Baggy hitting behind Lane as it  might help Lane get something to hit and Bags can pick him up if he Ks.

2B Biggio
CF Burke
LF Berkman
3B Ensberg
RF Lane
DH Bagwell
1B Lamb
C  Ausmus
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I like this line up because of lamb hitting behind bagwell, who I assume will continue to have a high OBP (with significant decreased slugging %)

However, what about bagwell behind ensberg, then lamb, then lane

imo, bagwell will be the best at extending the inning of the 3, while I think lamb is a better RBI man of late than Lane (while this may be highly arguable, I certainly believe lamb has a higher percentage of quality at bats)
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« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2005, 01:00:48 pm »
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I like this line up because of lamb hitting behind bagwell, who I assume will continue to have a high OBP (with significant decreased slugging %)

However, what about bagwell behind ensberg, then lamb, then lane

imo, bagwell will be the best at extending the inning of the 3, while I think lamb is a better RBI man of late than Lane (while this may be highly arguable, I certainly believe lamb has a higher percentage of quality at bats)


I like Bagwell behind Lane for reasons explained above.  Better pitches for Lane out of respect for Baggy, and Baggy's ability to ease down and get a hit.  Lane drags his bat through the hitting zone and hopes that the pitcher throws it there.
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« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2005, 01:08:13 pm »
I agree with your assessment of Lane.  In theory, it works out nicely.  My question is though whether Chicago pitchers will fear bagwell.  I think they will respect him, but won't shy away from challenging him deep in the count.  I hope baggy makes them pay, but I don't think that the Sox will pitch around him initially.  He may still walk because of his good eye, but Garner passing over bags in a few key situations in the STL series will convince Guillen, et al. that it is unnecessary to pitch around him, imo
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Re: Oswalt on Letterman
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2005, 01:32:58 pm »
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Clemens numbers at U.S. Cellular Field (Since Rocket pre-dates Yahoo's record kieeping, these numbers are since 1987)
 
Games: 10
Wins: 4
Loses: 3
CG: 2
IP: 64.0
H: 59
R:30
ER: 28
HR: 6
BB:19
K:47
ERA: 3.94
WHIP:1.22
AVG: .246



That ballpark didn't open until 1991. If the numbers are since 1987, they include its predecessor.
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« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2005, 03:37:13 pm »
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Yep, but Guillen a relative newcomer to managing and has no NL experience (IIRC).

 He does have a year with Atlanta according to the White Sox web site.    link
 
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Guillen was also the third-base coach for the Marlin's second World Series winning team.
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Re: Oswalt on Letterman
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2005, 03:49:32 pm »
Thanks for the link to Letterman.

Did you notice Paul Shafer(sp?) played "Do the Tighten Up" by Archie Bell and The Drells (from Houston TX) before and after the list.
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« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2005, 03:57:52 pm »
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Did you notice Paul Shafer(sp?) played "Do the Tighten Up" by Archie Bell and The Drells (from Houston TX) before and after the list.



Oh yeah, nice touch.
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