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Might As Well Get THIS Thread Started:
« on: October 02, 2005, 11:52:21 pm »
Pitchers
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Roger Clemens
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Chad Qualls
Dan Wheeler
Brad Lidge
Mike Gallo
Russ Springer
Wandy Rodriguez

Catchers
Brad Ausmus
Raul Chavez

Infielders
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Craig Biggio
Adam Everett
Morgan Ensberg
Mike Lamb
Jose Vizcaino

Outfielders
Lance Berkman
Willy Taveras
Orlando Palmeiro
Jason Lane
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Chris Burke

25th Man
Humberto Quintero?
Zeke Astacio?
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2005, 12:03:41 am »
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Pitchers
Roy Oswalt
Roger Clemens
Andy Pettitte
Brandon Backe
Chad Qualls
Dan Wheeler
Brad Lidge
Mike Gallo
Russ Springer
Wandy Rodriguez

Catchers
Brad Ausmus
Raul Chavez

Infielders
Jeff Bagwell
Craig Biggio
Adam Everett
Morgan Ensberg
Mike Lamb
Jose Vizcaino

Outfielders
Lance Berkman
Willy Taveras
Orlando Palmeiro
Jason Lane
Eric Bruntlett
Chris Burke

25th Man
Humberto Quintero?
Zeke Astacio?
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Quintero is out of the picture, since he was sent down prior to August 31st and re-called after September 1st.  He cannot be used in the postseason and neither can Mike Burns who was sent with him.

Charles Gipson and Raul Chavez were the ones re-called on August 31st and have rights to a post-season roster spot.  Same goes with Luke Scott who was re-called in mid-August when Backe went on the DL.

As far as who the 25th man will be, it is between Astacio, Gipson and Scott.  If you leave off Rodriquez and Astacio from the roster, then you can carry both Scott and Gipson, however, you would carry nine pitchers through the NLDS.  I don't think they'll do that, not with Clemens sporting a bad hammy.  You need an emergency starter, so you have to carry either Astacio or Rodriquez.  My hunch is that they don't know yet which of the two they want to carry.

Same with Scott and Gipson.  Scott showed he can be valuable as a pinch hitter (power bat) off the bench and that means Lamb can play more regularily and the bench is not weakened because of it.  Gipson showed he can be a valuable late inning pinch-runner and defensive replacement.  I think Gipson has a strike against him in that both Burke and Bruntlett can pinch run late in a game as well.  As far as being a good late inning defensive replacement... well, Willy Taveras may not need replacing in a game five series.  So you can have Bagwell as the power right handed pinch hitter, Scott as the power left handed pinch hitter, Bruntlett and Burke are pinch runners and late inning defensive replacement (see today's game as the example) and Vizcaino, Palmerio and Chavez as veteran bench/utility guys ready to lend a hand.

Gipson, I fear, is odd man out right now, but then again... what do I know?  Nothing, that is the answer... not a thing!

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Re: Might As Well Get THIS Thread Started:
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2005, 12:04:54 am »
Luke Scott?
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2005, 12:08:08 am »
I was thinking Scott was a Sept callup, which was the only reason I left him off the list.

I think Noe's right.

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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2005, 12:09:51 am »
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I was thinking Scott was a Sept callup, which was the only reason I left him off the list.

I think Noe's right.





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Re: Might As Well Get THIS Thread Started:
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2005, 12:12:13 am »
Yes, I think Scott too based on your stab at Lamb playing regularly in the post season.

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Re: Might As Well Get THIS Thread Started:
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2005, 12:35:59 am »
I can't see keeping both Gipson and Burke at the same time.

Isn't Atl's pitching staff predominately righties? If so, you have to keep Scott on the roster. I would keep Astacio over Wandy (at least for this series).

I also throw out the possibility that you flip Luke for Wandy should the Astros reach the NLCS.

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Re: Might As Well Get THIS Thread Started:
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2005, 12:56:05 am »
Luke Scott.  Wandy or Zeke probably won't have an opportunity to make it into any of the games, but the power potential of Luke Scott may be something Garner wants in his holster.
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Re: Might As Well Get THIS Thread Started:
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2005, 11:36:58 am »
I'd take Gipson over Scott.
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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2005, 11:41:50 am »
Don't Forget that between each series, you can change your roster for the next series.

Given that Atlanta has very few Lefty pitchers (starters or bullpen) look for Scott to be on the 25-man roster to NLDS, but may not for any other series in the playoffs.

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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2005, 11:44:12 am »
It really comes down to what you belive will help the team.

Bagwell is the only power you have on the bench with the current configuration (Lamb at 1st, Berkman in Left)...so Scott look a little more necessary than Gipson at this point.

Of course, that's just a theory, as Scott's shown zero power in the bigs.

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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2005, 11:49:38 am »
I'd favor leaving Luke(LH pop off the bench) and Ezequiel(could take Qualls, Springer or Wheelers spot in case of problems) on the squad and picking between Gallo or Wandy. Wandy has better stuff but Gallo of course is more used to the bullpen roll. I'd go with Wandy but I imagine Scraps won't. Even though he was huge for us I think Wandy might be the odd man out.

I still think Scott will make it and its between Gallo and Wandy for the last spot.
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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2005, 11:49:54 am »
I like Gipson, for no supportable reason.

Nine pitchers ought to be plenty in a five game series.

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« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2005, 11:56:09 am »
I don't really like gipson.  He doesn't bring anything other than a pinch runner and a defensive sub late in games.  I think bruntlett can adequately fill those roles.

However, if berkman singles late in a playoff game, gipson pinch runs and steals second, then is driven home on a single, then in that case I would want him on the roster.

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Re: Might As Well Get THIS Thread Started:
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2005, 12:05:01 pm »
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I like Gipson, for no supportable reason.

Nine pitchers ought to be plenty in a five game series.




Count Pupula said in his post-clinch interview that they had to decide on the roster - including whether to take 10 or 11 pitchers.  I think they'll take 10, because you have to look to your starters to go deep, and they need all the hitting they can get.

FTR, I prefer Scott over Gipson because Scott can do all that Gipson can (perhaps not quite as rapidly) while Gipson isn't going to get you an extra-base hit.
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