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Post Season Awards
« on: September 29, 2019, 08:43:02 pm »
New York Times version:
AL Rookie of Year - Alvarez
AL Cy Young - Verlander
AL Manager of the Year - Aaron Boone - of course.
AL MVP - not Bregman
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Re: Post Season Awards
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2019, 09:29:34 pm »
In what fucked up alternate reality is Bob Melvin not the AL Manager of the Year?
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2019, 09:48:49 pm »
In what fucked up alternate reality is Bob Melvin not the AL Manager of the Year?

Because Judge and that other guy got hurt?
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2019, 09:53:58 pm »
In what fucked up alternate reality is Bob Melvin not the AL Manager of the Year?

The kind where New York exists.

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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2019, 11:55:00 pm »
Because Judge and that other guy got hurt?
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2019, 07:24:42 am »
In what fucked up alternate reality is Bob Melvin not the AL Manager of the Year?
Rocco Baldelli wins in my fucked up alternate reality.
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2019, 09:39:17 am »
Also Sabathia got really old and fat. So, adversity.

I can't remember Sabathia ever being NOT old and fat.

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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2019, 10:19:42 am »
Rocco Baldelli wins in my fucked up alternate reality.

And don't get me wrong, I LOVE your fucked up alternate reality.  But BoMel has done more with less, IMO. 
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2019, 10:39:54 am »
I get the Boone vote. The Yankees were absurd this year given the injuries they had. It would be one thing if they'd squeaked in, but to have dominated a tough division with something like $75 million on the IL all year...that's not nothing. Baldelli would be my vote, though.

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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2019, 10:45:29 am »
I get the Boone vote. The Yankees were absurd this year given the injuries they had. It would be one thing if they'd squeaked in, but to have dominated a tough division with something like $75 million on the IL all year...that's not nothing. Baldelli would be my vote, though.

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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2019, 10:52:12 am »
I get the Boone vote. The Yankees were absurd this year given the injuries they had. It would be one thing if they'd squeaked in, but to have dominated a tough division with something like $75 million on the IL all year...that's not nothing. Baldelli would be my vote, though.
Was it really a tough division though?
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2019, 11:21:21 am »
Was it really a tough division though?

Two intentionally bad teams and a collapsing Boston. No, it was not.


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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2019, 11:42:47 am »
Two intentionally bad teams and a collapsing Boston. No, it was not.


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Yep, Stros/A's = Yanks/Rays and I'll take the rest of the West over the East.

What was the best division in baseball?  NL East?  AL West?
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2019, 11:49:01 am »
Two intentionally bad teams and a collapsing Boston. No, it was not.


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"Tough" probably isn't the best word, you're right. Nevertheless. That is the state of the game at the moment. The Sox lingered until NY put them down in August and they have their record against the Rays to thank for winning the division.

My argument is only that it isn't a crazy vote.

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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2019, 11:51:55 am »
NYY was helped immensely by Boston’s collapse.

Boston was on a hot streak with NY coming in after the ASB and got swept in four. The collapse continued against the Rays,  if memory serves, but it started hosting the Yanks. At least that's my memory.

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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2019, 12:01:40 pm »
Because Judge and that other guy got hurt?

Every team had injuries!!!
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2019, 03:44:04 pm »
Rocco Baldelli wins in my fucked up alternate reality.
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2019, 04:08:46 pm »
Any chance Verlander and Cole share the Cy Young? That would seem to make the most sense.
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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2019, 04:11:00 pm »
Any chance Verlander and Cole share the Cy Young? That would seem to make the most sense.

I hope so.

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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2019, 04:35:32 pm »
Any chance Verlander and Cole share the Cy Young? That would seem to make the most sense.

If ever there should be co-Cy Youngs it should be this. Pretty amazing that the two best pitchers for the season were teammates who were near carbon copies of each other. Johnson and Schilling at least had some separation between them. But the only way that happens is if all 30 voters equally split 1-2.

Another wild card is to remember who the voters are. The two Tampa writers have dinged Verlander in the past (leading to a Twitter roasting by Kate). Of course the Detroit Free Press guy has an issue with Verlander as well, as evidenced of being barred from the post-game presser earlier this year. Cole probably has a edge there.
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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2019, 05:36:25 am »
Any chance Verlander and Cole share the Cy Young? That would seem to make the most sense.

Unlikely. The votes decide it, and an agreement would be necessary almost certainly.
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2019, 11:56:08 am »
If ever there should be co-Cy Youngs it should be this. Pretty amazing that the two best pitchers for the season were teammates who were near carbon copies of each other. Johnson and Schilling at least had some separation between them. But the only way that happens is if all 30 voters equally split 1-2.

Another wild card is to remember who the voters are. The two Tampa writers have dinged Verlander in the past (leading to a Twitter roasting by Kate). Of course the Detroit Free Press guy has an issue with Verlander as well, as evidenced of being barred from the post-game presser earlier this year. Cole probably has a edge there.

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