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Uncle Mike! 2-0 Astros
2-1
I confess to not knowing the rule about a catcher blocking the plate without the ball. That sure looked like what the Reds’ catcher did.
"Unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the pathway of the runner as he is attempting to score. If, in the judgment of the Umpire, the catcher, without possession of the ball, blocks the pathway of the runner, the Umpire shall call or signal the runner safe."
What do you think about that play?
Listening on the radio, so I didn't see it, but Ford and Sparks agreed that the throw took the catcher into the path of the runner. The rule is the catcher can't block the plate without the ball unless in the act of fielding the throw. Radio guys, and umpires too, I guess, agreed he was fielding the throw.
I thought he was blocking the plate.
He did not setup to block the plate. The throw made him move into the area where a clear path was available for Kemp. Hence he has to catch the ball before he tags a runner and in order to catch the ball, he had to shift and block Kemp's clear path. It's a judgement call at that point if the possession of the ball was evident or not. It was close, but I believe he had possession and was only blocking the plate becase in order to gain possession, he had to shift his body into that position.
I think the throw beat Tony by a lot. Catcher had the ball well before Tony "attempted to score".
So Kemp could have bowled the catcher over in an attempt to jar the ball loose.
He did not setup to block the plate. The throw made him move into the area where a clear path was available for Kemp. Hence he has to catch the ball before he tags a runner and in order to catch the ball, he had to shift and block Kemp's clear path. It's a judgement call at that point if the possession of the ball was evident or not. It was close, but I believe he had possession and was only blocking the plate because in order to gain possession, he had to shift his body into that position.
Agree re throw beating him. My question is at what point during a mad dash for home does “attempt to score” occur?
Not the way I saw it.
The way I understand the rule is that the catcher has to have possession of the ball or be moving to catch the ball when the runner is close enough to attempt to touch the plate. So if the catcher is set up on the baseline/plate without the ball as the runner is starting his slide or reaching to step on the plate and doesn't have the ball yet/isn't making a play to catch the ball, he's interfering.
Swept by a shitty, shitty last place NL team. Impressive.
If our offense doesn’t show up, we could be looking at a 0-7 road trip.
The AAA lineup is catching up to them. Plus some pretty uninspired work from the regulars. All in all, a pretty shitty stay in the Queen City.
Brantley had a great shot to throw the guy out. What a lousy throw.
Perfect ball to get off a good throw. But it was brutal. Don't know what Osuna was doing there "backing up" either. Let the winning run get in scoring position.
The hitter ran to second on the throw. Osuna has no role in his moving to second.
Ford described it as the runner not moving to 2B until the throw got away. They also scored it an error on Brantley, which it would not have been had the batter moved to 2B on the throw.
Don’t quote Ford to me. Osuna had no role.
Well that's all I had to go on. I saw a short clip online, but wasn't watching the broadcast. The scorer also did not think he went to 2B on the throw, but I don't know what he said.
Quoting Blummer "What is Stubbs doing?" Meaning he was baffled what Stubbs did not secure the ball thrown instead of trying to swipe at it. Made his glove and ball pop off his hand and back towards the backstop. Osuna was not behind the play as he normally should be but in truth, I don't think anyone expected the ball to jump out of Garrett's glove like it did. Was Stubbs intentionally trying to swipe throw the ball backwards to try and get the runner? I hope not and I don't think he was, but Geoff Blum thought at first he might be.
Again, all I saw was a short clip. Ford described it as "throw up the third base line, tying run will score, ball gets away from Stubbs, Osuna not watching the ball, Stubbs trying to get his attention, as Senzel moves to into scoring position on the error". I'm not saying it's Osuna's fault, only that he appeared to be out of backup position and his back to the play.
Quoting Blummer "What is Stubbs doing?" Meaning he was baffled why Stubbs did not secure the ball thrown instead of trying to swipe at it. Made his glove and ball pop off his hand and back towards the backstop. Osuna was not behind the play as he normally should be but in truth, I don't think anyone expected the ball to jump out of Garrett's glove like it did. Was Stubbs intentionally trying to swipe throw the ball backwards to try and get the runner? I hope not and I don't think he was, but Geoff Blum thought at first he might be.
The ball was wild left of the beyond the batter’s box. Somehow Stubbs knocked the ball right of the plate outside the batter’s box. Where was Osuna supposed to be? He was not involved in the hitter moving to second.
“The biggest issue was giving up 90 [feet] when we didn’t need to on the play at the plate,” Hinch said. “It lines up Winker to hit a rolling ground ball through the infield. We lose. One of the many things we need to gather ourselves about and figure out before the next series.”Stubbs didn’t appear to have much of a chance to tag out Peraza considering how far Brantley’s throw was from the plate and how close Peraza was to crossing home.“It’s frustrating that we were even in that situation, and him to get into scoring position,” Stubbs said. “It’s not what you want.”Osuna, pitching for the first time in a week, was behind home plate when Stubbs caught the ball, and he didn’t see the ball flying out of his mitt until it was on the ground and Senzel was heading to second. Senzel initially stopped at first before taking off when he saw the ball on the grass.“Thank God their pitcher had no clue what was going on when the throw was made,” Senzel said. “think he thought the game was over or something. I don’t know what was going on. A lot of stuff was going on there. It was a bad throw, the catcher’s glove came off, Osuna – I don’t know what he was doing. I don’t think he knew where the ball was at. I was able to take second, but I have to be there on that throw. I know it’s a do-or-die play, tie game, and I have to take the extra base because the game is not over.”
Where ever Osuna was supposed to be, he ended up standing right next to the ball staring blankly around instead of making a play.
