Tom Hamilton

[Knoxbanedoodle]

The Indians' famously affable radio PBP guy just said that 29 teams enjoyed a champagne toast when the Red Sox eliminated the Astros last year. Prior to this he'd called the Houston front office "corrupt" and "paranoid." He and his partner chuckled at the excuse given by the Astros for the dugout photography incident during the ALCS and said that a fellow announcer or producer figure nearly came to blows with the Astros official who took issue with a Cleveland camera during the later stages of an ALDS game. Completely ruined my attempted nap.

How much of this is sour grapes? Is their reputation really so bad? Fucking champagne toast for Boston?

[HudsonHawk]

The Indians' famously affable radio PBP guy just said that 29 teams enjoyed a champagne toast when the Red Sox eliminated the Astros last year. Prior to this he'd called the Houston front office "corrupt" and "paranoid." He and his partner chuckled at the excuse given by the Astros for the dugout photography incident during the ALCS and said that a fellow announcer or producer figure nearly came to blows with the Astros official who took issue with a Cleveland camera during the later stages of an ALDS game. Completely ruined my attempted nap.

How much of this is sour grapes? Is their reputation really so bad? Fucking champagne toast for Boston?

It's a all sour grapes. Fuck Cleveland.

[jbm]

Yeah, gotta assume it's sour grapes.  Players sure don't mind coming to this "corrupt" organization, nor do other organizations shy away from raiding the "corrupt" front office.  If everything was build on a shady foundation, I doubt we see those things.

[BudGirl]

The Indians' famously affable radio PBP guy just said that 29 teams enjoyed a champagne toast when the Red Sox eliminated the Astros last year. Prior to this he'd called the Houston front office "corrupt" and "paranoid." He and his partner chuckled at the excuse given by the Astros for the dugout photography incident during the ALCS and said that a fellow announcer or producer figure nearly came to blows with the Astros official who took issue with a Cleveland camera during the later stages of an ALDS game. Completely ruined my attempted nap.

How much of this is sour grapes? Is their reputation really so bad? Fucking champagne toast for Boston?

Their still shitty.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Their still shitty.

Perfect

[Bench]

Their still shitty.

POTWA

[moriartp]

I think someone might’ve linked to these comments a couple months back—Kyle Boddy (the Driveline guy) has said lots of teams wrongly think the Astros organization is somehow cheating, because those teams have no idea just how far ahead of the curve the Astros are at player development.

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[MusicMan]

I think someone might’ve linked to these comments a couple months back—Kyle Boddy (the Driveline guy) has said lots of teams wrongly think the Astros organization is somehow cheating, because those teams have no idea just how far ahead of the curve the Astros are at player development.

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They’re not starving their minor leaguers and just praying they develop! THAT’S CHEATING!!


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[MRaup]

Question 1: Who is Tom Hamilton?

Question 2: Actually a statement. Fuck Tom Hamilton.

[JimR]

I have some info from a guy not prone to superlatives about how the Astros run its organization. Not sure I am allowed to post it , but a Reader’s Digest condensed version is the Astros are so far ahead in how it treats and develops its players, there is no organization close.

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Question 1: Who is Tom Hamilton?
I think he is the bass player for Aerosmith.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

I have some info from a guy not prone to superlatives about how the Astros run its organization. Not sure I am allowed to post it , but a Reader’s Digest condensed version is the Astros are so far ahead in how it treats and develops its players, there is no organization close.

I like that message.

[subnuclear]

The pitcher development seems to be ahead of the hitter development, but maybe I'm not seeing what's going on.

[JimR]

The pitcher development seems to be ahead of the hitter development, but maybe I'm not seeing what's going on.

Yeah, the Astros org is known for anemic offense.

[subnuclear]

Yeah, the Astros org is known for anemic offense.

The players that provide the offense were very high draft picks and would have done well in any organization. On the pitching side there are people like McHugh and Morton who have dramatically improved by coaching and development, but I can't think of someone on the offensive side like that. I can also think about Singleton, JD Davis, AJ Reed, who seem stuck at the AAA level.

[Bench]

The players that provide the offense were very high draft picks and would have done well in any organization. On the pitching side there are people like McHugh and Morton who have dramatically improved by coaching and development, but I can't think of someone on the offensive side like that. I can also think about Singleton, JD Davis, AJ Reed, who seem stuck at the AAA level.

Yordan Alvarez seems to be doing pretty well considering all he cost was Josh Fields.

[BUWebguy]

Hamilton's a guy who sounds like his team just won the World Series when it's actually a sac fly in the 4th inning of a game in May. I'm inclined to think he's susceptible to hyperbole.

(His call of a game is actually kind of fun to listen to every now and then, though I think I'd hate it if I had to listen to it 162 games a year.)

[Jacksonian]

The players that provide the offense were very high draft picks and would have done well in any organization. On the pitching side there are people like McHugh and Morton who have dramatically improved by coaching and development, but I can't think of someone on the offensive side like that. I can also think about Singleton, JD Davis, AJ Reed, who seem stuck at the AAA level.

I am curious to see whether the change to Marisnick's stance will carry improved hitting through the entire season.  He's always been good for about a month's worth of hot streak.  He's hitting well now so we'll see if he's doing well come the end of May.

[JimR]

The players that provide the offense were very high draft picks and would have done well in any organization. On the pitching side there are people like McHugh and Morton who have dramatically improved by coaching and development, but I can't think of someone on the offensive side like that. I can also think about Singleton, JD Davis, AJ Reed, who seem stuck at the AAA level.

I do not even know what to say to this. The first sentence is inane. I love it when I actually have info from someone who know, and then learn from someone here the info is wrong. Good to know high draft picks need nothing and would excel in any organization.

[Duman]

I do not even know what to say to this. The first sentence is inane. I love it when I actually have info from someone who know, and then learn from someone here the info is wrong. Good to know high draft picks need nothing and would excel in any organization.

Mark Appel says "hi"

[Duman]

Yeah, the Astros org is known for anemic offense.

OWA takes up the slack on Offense.  Lots of folks take offense around here.

[JimR]

Mark Appel says "hi"

Exactly

[Astros Fan in Big D]

One of the themes in various pieces written about the Astros is the information they make available to the players.   

Actionable information in corporate-ese.

JV was impressed and bought into it.

The hitters get reports on opponents and themselves. As much as they want or think they can handle.

Giles apparently turned his self-flagellated nose up at the info they tried to give him.  He didn't buy in. Buying in isn't a guarantee for success,  but it seems foolhardy not to do so.

And I don't care if they were drafted by Branch Rickey.  Every player in the organization stands to benefit,  including #'s 4, 27, 2, and 1.

[MusicMan]

One of the themes in various pieces written about the Astros is the information they make available to the players.   

Actionable information in corporate-ese.

JV was impressed and bought into it.

The hitters get reports on opponents and themselves. As much as they want or think they can handle.

Giles apparently turned his self-flagellated nose up at the info they tried to give him.  He didn't buy in. Buying in isn't a guarantee for success,  but it seems foolhardy not to do so.

And I don't care if they were drafted by Branch Rickey.  Every player in the organization can stands to benefit,  including #'s 4, 27, 2, and 1.

Bauer was also very direct in saying how far behind the Astros the Indians are in this area.


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[subnuclear]

I do not even know what to say to this. The first sentence is inane. I love it when I actually have info from someone who know, and then learn from someone here the info is wrong. Good to know high draft picks need nothing and would excel in any organization.

Do you think Bregman or Correa would not be major league players on other teams?

I guess I'm crazy so I'll shut up.

[moriartp]

Do you think Bregman or Correa would not be major league players on other teams?

I guess I'm crazy so I'll shut up.

It’s not just whether they make the majors. It’s about how much of their potential gets realized. I think they are both better for being with the Astros than they would’ve been elsewhere.

[JimR]

One of the themes in various pieces written about the Astros is the information they make available to the players.   

Actionable information in corporate-ese.

JV was impressed and bought into it.

The hitters get reports on opponents and themselves. As much as they want or think they can handle.

Giles apparently turned his self-flagellated nose up at the info they tried to give him.  He didn't buy in. Buying in isn't a guarantee for success,  but it seems foolhardy not to do so.

And I don't care if they were drafted by Branch Rickey.  Every player in the organization can stands to benefit,  including #'s 4, 27, 2, and 1.

You are very close to being onto why the Astros are so far ahead. I’ll seek permission to post the info.

[MusicMan]

You are very close to being onto why the Astros are so far ahead. I’ll seek permission to post the info.

I think they seek out players who are open to the information, too.


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[Astros Fan in Big D]

I think they seek out players who are open to the information, too.


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Growth mindset is the phrase iirc.

[GreatBagwellsBeard]

One of the themes in various pieces written about the Astros is the information they make available to the players.   

Actionable information in corporate-ese.

JV was impressed and bought into it.

The hitters get reports on opponents and themselves. As much as they want or think they can handle.

Giles apparently turned his self-flagellated nose up at the info they tried to give him.  He didn't buy in. Buying in isn't a guarantee for success,  but it seems foolhardy not to do so.

And I don't care if they were drafted by Branch Rickey.  Every player in the organization stands to benefit,  including #'s 4, 27, 2, and 1.

Add Chirinos to this list.  Practically everything I've read about him since he signed emphasized how voraciously he was consuming all the new data that the team was feeding him, and the training they provided for pitch framing in particular.

[Waldo]

Add Chirinos to this list.  Practically everything I've read about him since he signed emphasized how voraciously he was consuming all the new data that the team was feeding him, and the training they provided for pitch framing in particular.

Sounds like you're channeling a recent article from The Athletic.

[GreatBagwellsBeard]

Sounds like you're channeling a recent article from The Athletic.

Guilty as charged.

[Mr. Happy]

I think they seek out players who are open to the information, too.


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