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Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **on:** May 28, 2018, 07:43:57 pm »

It is do or die tonight. No CP3. I'm nervous as fuck. Hoping for Clutch City version 3.0

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #1 on:** May 28, 2018, 07:47:31 pm »

From Clutch Fans:
"You absolutely knew it was happening. Scott Foster is officiating tonight, along with Mike Callahan and Derrick Stafford. In past two playoffs, Rockets are 0-5 in games Foster officiates, 17-5 when he doesn't."

jbm · « **Reply #2 on:** May 28, 2018, 07:55:58 pm »

I’m having trouble visualizing how they do it, but strange things do happen.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #3 on:** May 28, 2018, 08:33:09 pm »

And Foster begins his fuck job.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #4 on:** May 28, 2018, 08:35:40 pm »

Foster is a corrupt version of Angel Hernandez.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #5 on:** May 28, 2018, 08:43:29 pm »

Keep the throttle wide open.

Aussie Astro · « **Reply #6 on:** May 28, 2018, 08:45:39 pm »

Johnson and Anderson getting early minutes, good move I think.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #7 on:** May 28, 2018, 08:45:55 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on May 28, 2018, 08:35:40 pm

Foster is a corrupt version of Angel Hernandez.

He's the new version of Jake O'Donnell.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #8 on:** May 28, 2018, 08:47:35 pm »

Warriors a tad late on rotations, Rockets taking advantage.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #9 on:** May 28, 2018, 08:47:56 pm »

Would love to see home-boy Green get hot.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #10 on:** May 28, 2018, 08:51:11 pm »

Quote from: Aussie Astro on May 28, 2018, 08:45:39 pm

Johnson and Anderson getting early minutes, good move I think.

Yes. Fresh legs, limited minutes. Keep throwing energy at them.

Durant/Green getting dominated at the Rockets basket.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #11 on:** May 28, 2018, 08:52:26 pm »

Anderson is way overdue to hit some threes... hell, to hit a three.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #12 on:** May 28, 2018, 08:58:47 pm »

Obvious foul , no call.

Not even close

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #13 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:00:50 pm »

And again

Glad Weber and Reggie all over it.

Good move getting Capela back in.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #14 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:01:15 pm »

Reggie Miller: "back to back plays where I thought Harden was fouled."
Chris Webber: "Yes."

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #15 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:04:39 pm »

Rockets advantage has been when they made GS rotate, not the iso 3.

Harden shot selection hurt last few minutes. (although should have had 6 FTs).

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #16 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:05:12 pm »

Golden State has owned the third quarter.

Aussie Astro · « **Reply #17 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:05:20 pm »

Quote from: Astros Fan in Big D on May 28, 2018, 09:00:50 pm

And again

Glad Weber and Reggie all over it.

Good move getting Capela back in.

CC is fuckin' great.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #18 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:07:03 pm »

Foster demonstrating again that the fans paid to see him.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #19 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:18:16 pm »

Still not sure what that Clive Owen commercial is about. Business?...

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #20 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:21:49 pm »

That's it Harden

Apply pressure to the defense.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #21 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:24:56 pm »

Robbed of 7 free throws

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #22 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:25:48 pm »

This game is shameful the way it’s being officiated. Harden robbed of at least 9 points so far

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #23 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:27:10 pm »

And it has begun. Brick. Brick. Brick. Brick...

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #24 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:28:38 pm »

!0 - 4 run by the Warriors. Rockets really need to buckle down.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #25 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:28:53 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on May 28, 2018, 09:27:10 pm

And it has begun. Brick. Brick. Brick. Brick...

Get to the basket. Then get 3s on kick out/rotation.

Iso 3s are killing us.
ATTACK THE DEFENSE!

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #26 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:30:21 pm »

Get the offense started with Gordon on occasion.

Harden is tired and settling.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #27 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:32:18 pm »

Assaulted the bucket, no call.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #28 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:33:20 pm »

Quote from: Astros Fan in Big D on May 28, 2018, 09:32:18 pm

Assaulted the bucket, no call.

Amazing no call.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #29 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:34:24 pm »

Rockets have missed their last 10 shots...

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #30 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:39:46 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on May 28, 2018, 09:34:24 pm

Rockets have missed their last 10 shots...

The energy is there but will evaporate quickly if someone doesn't start making baskets.

GS is still making poor/slow decisions defensively *when* the Rockets test them.

As for the officiating, good grief. Maybe the worst I've ever seen. Most overcome it.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #31 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:39:57 pm »

And the meltdown is complete.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #32 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:40:34 pm »

And this game is over.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #33 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:41:54 pm »

1 for 14 this quarter

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #34 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:43:24 pm »

I don't understand this officiating.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #35 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:44:22 pm »

Outshot. Out hustled. Getting run out of your own gym. I’m going to bed.

chuck · « **Reply #36 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:44:32 pm »

I've been watching off and on all game and I swear I have not seen the Rockets make a field goal outside the paint.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #37 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:45:31 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on May 28, 2018, 09:43:24 pm

I don't understand this officiating.

You would if you watched rasslin'.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #38 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:46:20 pm »

Curry is a stone cold killer.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #39 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:47:30 pm »

FFFFuuuuuuucccccckkkkkk you Foster.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #40 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:50:26 pm »

Let Gordon start the offense.
Let Gordon start the offense.
Let Gordon start the offense.
Let Gordon start the offense.
Let Gordon start the offense.

Lefty · « **Reply #41 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:59:38 pm »

6-39 from 3 is not going to win many games

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #42 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:01:46 pm »

0 for 25 from three, a new NBA record

ETA: 27 in a row.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #43 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:03:24 pm »

Harden is giving up.

That shotwas stupid.

Aussie Astro · « **Reply #44 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:04:12 pm »

Quote from: Lefty on May 28, 2018, 09:59:38 pm

6-39 from 3 is not going to win many games

True, but at this point they have to keep gunning away, not too many other options... other than hitting a few.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #45 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:04:21 pm »

It's critical and those motherfuckers can't miss. I'm afraid it is over.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #46 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:07:07 pm »

Our only hope is that they miss a bunch in a row, and seemingly they can't miss shit.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #47 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:08:08 pm »

Quote from: Aussie Astro on May 28, 2018, 10:04:12 pm

True, but at this point they have to keep gunning away, not too many other options... other than hitting a few.

Iso 3s have been awful. The quick 3 off a pass with no defender should occasionally be passed up for a drive to the basket and certainly not rushed if you do shoot it.

That drive/dish 3 ws the best looking one fron that streak.

You don't need CP3 to recognize those things.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #48 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:10:00 pm »

FUCK, Harden!

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #49 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:10:36 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on May 28, 2018, 10:07:07 pm

Our only hope is that they miss a bunch in a row, and seemingly they can't miss shit.

Kill me.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #50 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:14:05 pm »

I like him and respect him, but fuck Steve Kerr for hacking Capela.

Aussie Astro · « **Reply #51 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:15:37 pm »

These intentional fouls are a blight on the game, when people compare the NBA to WWE, this gives them credence.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #52 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:19:10 pm »

The Rockets should have won this series.

What was required in both games 6 and 7 was for then tio simply play their game with energy.

Maybe they got tired, maybe the fog of war affected their judgment, maybe they just aren't very smart in a basketball IQ sense, maybe they aren't mentally tough.

Whatever.

They fucking blew it

Jacksonian · « **Reply #53 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:21:46 pm »

Quote from: Aussie Astro on May 28, 2018, 10:15:37 pm

These intentional fouls are a blight on the game, when people compare the NBA to WWE, this gives them credence.

You called?

The modern NBA is as close to professional wrestling as a legitimate sports league can get.

Aussie Astro · « **Reply #54 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:23:34 pm »

Quote from: Astros Fan in Big D on May 28, 2018, 10:19:10 pm

The Rockets should have won this series.

What was required in both games 6 and 7 was for then tio simply play their game with energy.

Maybe they got tired, maybe the fog of war affected their judgment, maybe they just aren't very smart in a basketball IQ sense, maybe they aren't mentally tough.

Whatever.

They fucking blew it

Rox didn't have the assets. With Chris Paul they may have, but we'll never know.

Lefty · « **Reply #55 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:25:52 pm »

Quote from: Astros Fan in Big D on May 28, 2018, 10:14:05 pm

I like him and respect him, but fuck Steve Kerr for hacking Capela.

Everything about that team, from the owner to coach to fans to Durant to Green to Curry is total chickenshit.

Yes, they are amazingly good.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #56 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:26:06 pm »

Curry, Durant, Thompson, Green, vs Rockets without Paul. And then the Rockets go 0-27 from three, couldn't make a shot. You can win if you can't make shots.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #57 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:29:53 pm »

Quote from: Aussie Astro on May 28, 2018, 10:23:34 pm

Rox didn't have the assets. With Chris Paul they may have, but we'll never know.

Yep.

One thing seems clear: leaning harder and harder on Harden ain't gonna get it done.

Aussie Astro · « **Reply #58 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:30:32 pm »

Quote from: Jacksonian on May 28, 2018, 10:21:46 pm

You called?

The modern NBA is as close to professional wrestling as a legitimate sports league can get.

I don't really know the history of NBA rules, but when FIBA took away the option of side ball or free throws in team foul situations it changed the game forever. I liken hacking the bad free throw shooters to some bad guy jumping up in the ring and hitting someone with a chair when the ref is looking the other way.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #59 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:32:30 pm »

I was thinking about the Rockets back to back championships back in the day. Then I thought about the Aeros and their back to back WHA championships. Then I thought about the Oilers and their back to back AFL championships in 60 and 61. Anyway...

doyce7 · « **Reply #60 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:33:00 pm »

This game reminds me of why I stopped caring so much for basketball 3 or 4 years ago.

The league has turned into a 3 point shooting competition with shitty refs. The refs cost them at least 12 points on should be fouls but probably closer to 20. And the rockets just jacked up brick after brick after brick.

Maybe the rockets were afraid to drive and not get any calls? I wouldn't blame them if they thought that.

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HudsonHawk · « **Reply #61 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:36:19 pm »

Quote from: Astros Fan in Big D on May 28, 2018, 10:29:53 pm

Yep.

One thing seems clear: leaning harder and harder on Harden ain't gonna get it done.

Harden can’t do everything. He can’t make Trevor Ariza make a shot. He can’t make Clint Capela make free throws. He can’t give Chris Paul guts. Harden plays his ass off. He ain’t perfect, but he gives it his all and he’s the best player they have.

Lefty · « **Reply #62 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:37:51 pm »

Quote from: doyce7 on May 28, 2018, 10:33:00 pm

Maybe the rockets were afraid to drive and not get any calls? I wouldn't blame them if they thought that.

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The only way they scored at all in the 2nd half was taking the ball to the rim, Gordon and Harden, some dishes to Clint.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #63 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:40:17 pm »

Quote from: Aussie Astro on May 28, 2018, 10:30:32 pm

I don't really know the history of NBA rules, but when FIBA took away the option of side ball or free throws in team foul situations it changed the game forever. I liken hacking the bad free throw shooters to some bad guy jumping up in the ring and hitting someone with a chair when the ref is looking the other way.

The league has tried to curb the hack a player strategy some, but the fact is, if you can’t shoot free throws, the other is going to exploit it. Nobody likes it, but until the NBA finally does away with it, it’s a legal strategy and a winning one.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #64 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:46:04 pm »

Quote from: doyce7 on May 28, 2018, 10:33:00 pm

This game reminds me of why I stopped caring so much for basketball 3 or 4 years ago.

The league has turned into a 3 point shooting competition with shitty refs. The refs cost them at least 12 points on should be fouls but probably closer to 20. And the rockets just jacked up brick after brick after brick.

Maybe the rockets were afraid to drive and not get any calls? I wouldn't blame them if they thought that.

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This is why the nba gets away with it: the right thing to say is 'we didn't lose because of the refs'.

But Harden was fouled 3 times on 3 point attempts with 2 completely uncalled and the third, which he made, was ruled on the floor so no basket and no and 1. That's 10 potential points on obvious calls.

The moving screen on the Curry 3 was also egregious.

Not why they lost, but the Rockets players/ coaches have to face consequences for their part.

(They did call 1 in the first on Thompson, apparently that ws the quota)

doyce7 · « **Reply #65 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:46:25 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on May 28, 2018, 10:40:17 pm

The league has tried to curb the hack a player strategy some, but the fact is, if you can’t shoot free throws, the other is going to exploit it. Nobody likes it, but until the NBA finally does away with it, it’s a legal strategy and a winning one.

It's a pretty simple fix. Off the ball foul=no free throws. It should be a no brainer. Another one of the many reasons I don't watch much basketball. Not even sure why I watched the game tonight

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Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #66 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:47:38 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on May 28, 2018, 10:36:19 pm

Harden can’t do everything. He can’t make Trevor Ariza make a shot. He can’t make Clint Capela make free throws. He can’t give Chris Paul guts. Harden plays his ass off. He ain’t perfect, but he gives it his all and he’s the best player they have.

Fair points

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #67 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:48:53 pm »

Quote from: doyce7 on May 28, 2018, 10:46:25 pm

It's a pretty simple fix. Off the ball foul=no free throws. It should be a no brainer. Another one of the many reasons I don't watch much basketball. Not even sure why I watched the game tonight

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Yes, it’s an easy fix. But the league doesn’t seem interested in fixing it.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #68 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:49:44 pm »

7 for 44 from 3.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #69 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:50:39 pm »

All this, and lost by 9.

The series was there for the taking.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #70 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:51:58 pm »

Quote from: Astros Fan in Big D on May 28, 2018, 10:49:44 pm

7 for 44 from 3.

Trevor Ariza: 0 for 14, 0 points.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #71 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:53:14 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on May 28, 2018, 10:51:58 pm

Trevor Ariza: 0 for 14, 0 points.

Unbelievable.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #72 on:** May 28, 2018, 10:57:18 pm »

Quote from: Astros Fan in Big D on May 28, 2018, 10:53:14 pm

Unbelievable.

That’s the difference in the game right there. Your starting power forward plays 40+ minutes, commits four fouls and scores zero points. You cannot possibly win that game. No matter who you’re playing.

Aussie Astro · « **Reply #73 on:** May 29, 2018, 01:10:08 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on May 28, 2018, 10:40:17 pm

The league has tried to curb the hack a player strategy some, but the fact is, if you can’t shoot free throws, the other is going to exploit it. Nobody likes it, but until the NBA finally does away with it, it’s a legal strategy and a winning one.

I generally don't like rule changes, I would rather they stop fucking with them. But, I would go for a change back to the old team fouls rules (possession of shots), or if your wanted to make them less likely to do that shit you could treat it like a tech foul and anyone on the floor can take the shots. I don't actually want to watch a free throw shooting contest but if I have to, I would rather it was between the best in the league, not the fucking worst. The part that really shits me about the state of the NBA is that all the crap in the game could easily be straightened out under existing rules.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #74 on:** May 29, 2018, 05:25:58 am »

Quote from: Aussie Astro on May 29, 2018, 01:10:08 am

I generally don't like rule changes, I would rather they stop fucking with them. But, I would go for a change back to the old team fouls rules (possession thof shots), or if your wanted to make them less likely to do that shit you could treat it like a tech foul and anyone on the floor can take the shots. I don't actually want to watch a free throw shooting contest but if I have to, I would rather it was between the best in the league, not the fucking worst. The part that really shits me about the state of the NBA is that all the crap in the game could easily be straightened out under existing rules.

As Doyce points out, all you have to do is make off-ball fouls a side out and new shot clock. Or give teams the option. Up until the mid-80s, the NBA awardee a “three to make two” situation for certain fouls. You could bring that back. It’s an easy, easy fix. The NBA just doesn’t think anything is broken. .

Limey · « **Reply #75 on:** May 29, 2018, 06:42:07 am »

Quote from: Astros Fan in Big D on May 28, 2018, 10:19:10 pm

The Rockets should have won this series.

What was required in both games 6 and 7 was for then tio simply play their game with energy.

Maybe they got tired, maybe the fog of war affected their judgment, maybe they just aren't very smart in a basketball IQ sense, maybe they aren't mentally tough.

Whatever.

They fucking blew it

Of course, the refs didn’t throw all those bricks from behind the arc, or make the Warriors drain everything they tossed up but, when the Rockets were looking to pull away in the 2nd qtr, the refs choked them down by not calling shooting fouls on Harden - even on one he actually drained - robbing the Rockets of points and momentum. They ensured the Warriors stayed close at the half, which allowed GS to do their thing in the 3rd.

Also, there’s a video going around where - with the scores close early in Q2 - the Warriors missed a shot and we’re given 2 points anyway. The clip continues well into the Rockets’ possession, and it’s not corrected.

With all those bricked 3-point shots, the refs still were the deciding factor.

I will return to not watching the NBA. Sorry Rockets, you’re a good bunch of lads, but the pro game is a joke.

Waldo · « **Reply #76 on:** May 29, 2018, 08:19:34 am »

Reading this thread reminds me of why I quit watching basketball (pro or college) completely.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #77 on:** May 29, 2018, 09:18:55 am »

Quote from: Waldo on May 29, 2018, 08:19:34 am

Reading this thread reminds me of why I quit watching basketball (pro or college) completely.

I quit watching college basketball because the quality of play went down the toilet. Simultaneously, the quality of play in the NBA soared to new heights. It's a shame the league is still stuck in the 90s in their mindset of what people want to see.

chuck · « **Reply #78 on:** May 29, 2018, 12:23:00 pm »

Nothing screams quality like one of the premier teams going 0-30 in a row.

MusicMan · « **Reply #79 on:** May 29, 2018, 01:36:11 pm »

Quote from: chuck on May 29, 2018, 12:23:00 pm

Nothing screams quality like one of the premier teams going 0-30 in a row.

Can you imagine the wailing and rending of garments that would occur if the same two teams played in the World Series 4 straight years?

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chuck · « **Reply #80 on:** May 29, 2018, 02:16:42 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on May 29, 2018, 01:36:11 pm

Can you imagine the wailing and rending of garments that would occur if the same two teams played in the World Series 4 straight years?

Back when the Yankees were going to the WS every year and roided up freaks were hitting 70 home runs a season Selig was perfectly fine with it.

What you see is what the league wants.

Limey · « **Reply #81 on:** May 30, 2018, 06:55:32 pm »

Quote from: chuck on May 29, 2018, 02:16:42 pm

What you see is what the league wants.

They want east coast vs. west coast. Houston teams are cursed by their location.

Of course, the league's thumb on the scale has spared us the image of Fertita's gurning mug, while he cuddles the trophy* like its an endangered species he wants to put on display in one of his restaurants.

* As if they would ever let the Rockets beat LeBron.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #82 on:** June 01, 2018, 08:02:08 am »

I would like to personally thank JR Smith for taking the mantle of "Most Inexplicable Playoff Performance" away fron the Rockets.

Limey · « **Reply #83 on:** November 16, 2018, 08:53:35 am »

My new neighbor is Michael Carter-Williams.

Lefty · « **Reply #84 on:** January 04, 2019, 05:39:27 am »

If anyone is not convinced that the NBA is just a step above pro wrestling, watch the highlights of GS-Hou from last night and you'll see the single worst (non)call in NBA history, made concurrently by 2 refs.

Limey · « **Reply #85 on:** January 04, 2019, 06:05:26 am »

Quote from: Lefty on January 04, 2019, 05:39:27 am

If anyone is not convinced that the NBA is just a step above pro wrestling, watch the highlights of GS-Hou from last night and you'll see the single worst (non)call in NBA history, made concurrently by 2 refs.

I was sucked back in to the NBA last season, but the clear and present gaming of the results by the league - most obviously during the Rockets-Warriors playoff series - pushed me out again. I just googled the Durant non-call and it is as you describe. He collects and in-bounds the ball from basically the first row of seats.

It’s weird that they taint their sport this way. It diminishes the reputation of players like Curry who are clearly exceptional but should have an asterisk on each of their rings.

jbm · « **Reply #86 on:** January 04, 2019, 07:50:49 am »

I had to check it out and "single worst call" fits. It's honestly hard to comprehend how bad it was. Just to set the public straight on what the NBA is, they should have gone to the monitors for a few minutes, come back and announce "After reviewing the video, the call is confirmed."

Limey · « **Reply #87 on:** January 04, 2019, 08:05:07 am »

Quote from: jbm on January 04, 2019, 07:50:49 am

I had to check it out and "single worst call" fits. It's honestly hard to comprehend how bad it was. Just to set the public straight on what the NBA is, they should have gone to the monitors for a few minutes, come back and announce "After reviewing the video, the call is confirmed."

It’s not a “bad call”; it’s the product of the referees being instructed to let the Warriors win. When they’re so predisposed to favor one team, the refs will often slip far beyond the realms of plausibility and into farce. That’s not to say you can’t see them working, but they usually aren’t so outrageously blatant.

To wit, in game 6 of the western conference finals last year (played in Houston with the Rockets leadin 3-2), they called three fouls against the Warriors on Harden in the space of a few minutes. Each was while he was shooting a three yet each was called as a foul on the floor (giving the Rockets the ball out of bounds). Harden even made the basket on one of them. That was potentially 10 points denied by the refs; the Rockets lost by 9 and had to go to Oakland for game 7...

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #88 on:** January 04, 2019, 10:21:11 am »

Here's a link to ease your descent into rage:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2019/1/4/18168003/kevin-durant-out-of-bounds-video-referees-warriors-rockets

Quite simply indefensible. There's no way the sideline ref didn't see that. It was a conscious act to let that go.

Screw 'em. Poetic justice that Harden stuck that in their faces. But of course the long game is a different matter.

MusicMan · « **Reply #89 on:** January 04, 2019, 11:53:45 am »

It’s amazing how quickly the public forgot Tim Donaghy.

But then again, they quickly forgot that Kobe Bryant admitted he was a rapist.

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Limey · « **Reply #90 on:** January 04, 2019, 12:21:54 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on January 04, 2019, 11:53:45 am

It’s amazing how quickly the public forgot Tim Donaghy.

But then again, they quickly forgot that Kobe Bryant admitted he was a rapist.

And that Ray Lewis murdered people.

MusicMan · « **Reply #91 on:** January 04, 2019, 12:32:58 pm »

Quote from: Limey on January 04, 2019, 12:21:54 pm

And that Ray Lewis murdered people.

He just covered up the murder. MUCH different.

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Limey · « **Reply #92 on:** January 04, 2019, 12:36:03 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on January 04, 2019, 12:32:58 pm

He just covered up the murder. MUCH different.

He covered up a murder that he did.

chuck · « **Reply #93 on:** January 04, 2019, 12:53:02 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on January 04, 2019, 11:53:45 am

It’s amazing how quickly the public forgot Tim Donaghy.

But then again, they quickly forgot that Kobe Bryant admitted he was a rapist.

I haven't lost sight of either of those things. I gave up on the NBA as a rigged joke well before Donaghy showed up and drew the curtain back on how ridiculous the whole thing is. When he did, my response was, Of course.

It amazes me that people continue to invest time and resources in the NBA. But, as others have noted, people invest in the WWE.

Of course, Joe West still has a job so who am I to cast stones?

Lefty · « **Reply #94 on:** January 04, 2019, 01:10:07 pm »

Quote from: Astros Fan in Big D on January 04, 2019, 10:21:11 am

Quite simply indefensible. There's no way the sideline ref didn't see that. It was a conscious act to let that go.

The baseline ref was also staring right at Durant the whole time he took 4 steps out of bounds and then "saved" the ball out of the fan's lap.

That was the first NBA basketball I've watched this year, and I am glad I turned it on after halftime. Not surprised to see that nothing has changed, and I might tune in for some of the playoffs but I really couldn't care less.

chuck · « **Reply #95 on:** January 04, 2019, 01:25:12 pm »

Quote from: Lefty on January 04, 2019, 01:10:07 pm

That was the first NBA basketball I've watched this year, and I am glad I turned it on after halftime. Not surprised to see that nothing has changed, and I might tune in for some of the playoffs but I really couldn't care less.

I watched some of the second half, too. The depths to which otherwise reasonable people will sink when they find themselves between football and baseball seasons are downright shameful.

subnuclear · « **Reply #96 on:** January 04, 2019, 01:39:33 pm »

Who would care about a regular season game enough to pay a ref to do this? If you were a crooked ref would you choose a moment like this to put your thumb on the scale? Not sure I understand what could be going on.

subnuclear · « **Reply #97 on:** January 04, 2019, 01:41:43 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on January 04, 2019, 11:53:45 am

It’s amazing how quickly the public forgot Tim Donaghy.

But then again, they quickly forgot that Kobe Bryant admitted he was a rapist.

The public forgot the name, but people talk about crooked refs all the time. And nobody forgot about Kobe, they just chose to make up their own story about it.

Limey · « **Reply #98 on:** January 04, 2019, 01:50:46 pm »

Quote from: subnuclear on January 04, 2019, 01:39:33 pm

Who would care about a regular season game enough to pay a ref to do this? If you were a crooked ref would you choose a moment like this to put your thumb on the scale? Not sure I understand what could be going on.

Got to give yourself the cover of Game 7 being at home for the Warriors or other team du jour. That way your shenanigans to put them over the top can be excused as home field advantage. So you have to rig the regular season to get them a high seed. Head-to-head results do the most damage.

The problem comes when you have to show your giant thumb in Game 6, like they had to do with the Rockets in last year's Warriors series and every series between the Rockets and Lakers.

Why they want the Warriors perennially to win is the mystery to me. Is it simply to protect Curry as the poster child?

subnuclear · « **Reply #99 on:** January 04, 2019, 02:04:04 pm »

I could understand the league wanting to create super teams, but I just don't see how someone can make money from throwing some games here and there.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #100 on:** January 23, 2019, 08:57:49 pm »

James Harden is one of the best scorers I've ever seen. Ever. 61 points tonight. 21 games in a row over 30. 45.3 PPG in January.

MusicMan · « **Reply #101 on:** January 24, 2019, 08:42:01 am »

Quote from: Col. Sphinx Drummond on January 23, 2019, 08:57:49 pm

James Harden is one of the best scorers I've ever seen. Ever. 61 points tonight. 21 games in a row over 30. 45.3 PPG in January.

And his teammates are so bad that not one of his points in the last 4 games has been assisted.

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Bench · « **Reply #102 on:** January 24, 2019, 10:33:14 am »

Quote from: MusicMan on January 24, 2019, 08:42:01 am

And his teammates are so bad that not one of his points in the last 4 games has been assisted.

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That's one of those stats that simply cannot be real. It is, but it still can't be. Except it's actually the last FIVE games (261 points total = 52.2/gm)

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #103 on:** January 24, 2019, 10:44:39 am »

Mind boggling on all fronts.

I'm still bitter they blew their chance against GS last year.

MusicMan · « **Reply #104 on:** January 24, 2019, 10:58:52 am »

Quote from: Bench on January 24, 2019, 10:33:14 am

That's one of those stats that simply cannot be real. It is, but it still can't be. Except it's actually the last FIVE games (261 points total = 52.2/gm)

I mean, could you do that on a video game if you tried?

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TeeJoe · « **Reply #105 on:** January 24, 2019, 11:15:35 am »

Quote from: MusicMan on January 24, 2019, 10:58:52 am

I mean, could you do that on a video game if you tried?

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NBA Jam "HE'S ON FIRE!"

Beyond that I wouldn't know. I never graduated past the Sega Genesis