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Re: Tennessee HS Coaches being investigated for abuse
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2017, 07:53:27 pm »
"Will Neely was treated for second-degree burns on his hands two years ago after Michalski forced players to perform bear crawls on the hot blacktop track, according to his father."

At Hyde Park Baptist in Austin we had a dickhead gym coach who put us all on the black gravel parking lot to do push-ups until the enterprising 5th grader who'd detonated a stink bomb came clean. He didn't, and still the only lesson I took from that exercise is that some sadists are employed by schools.   

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Re: Tennessee HS Coaches being investigated for abuse
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2017, 12:03:23 am »
This type of asshat was plentiful back in my day.  However, in the day where everyone can be a reporter with a video camera to gather evidence, this type of behavior usually gets spread like wildfire and forces authorities to take note and action. This guy should be banned. He's obviously a good coach, who has attracted some very good players. But this "win at all costs" mentality just doesn't cut it today.
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Re: Tennessee HS Coaches being investigated for abuse
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2017, 08:58:55 am »
So throwing at your players is dangerous and just being an asshole. But if we start dismissing every coach who intimidates and yells at his players, there won't be many coaches left.  My HS coach once pulled his own tooth out to make a point. He also threw bats in the team bus. He made most of the team cry at one point or another. He was kind of an asshole.
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Re: Tennessee HS Coaches being investigated for abuse
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2017, 05:04:34 pm »
So throwing at your players is dangerous and just being an asshole. But if we start dismissing every coach who intimidates and yells at his players, there won't be many coaches left.  My HS coach once pulled his own tooth out to make a point. He also threw bats in the team bus. He made most of the team cry at one point or another. He was kind of an asshole.

I agree with you about screaming, cussing coaches. I always performed better for those coaches. However, times are much different than when we played. Today's coach has to be much better behaved.
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Re: Tennessee HS Coaches being investigated for abuse
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2017, 06:19:36 pm »
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Re: Tennessee HS Coaches being investigated for abuse
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2017, 07:27:12 pm »
However, times are much different than when we played. Today's coach has to be much better behaved.

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Re: Tennessee HS Coaches being investigated for abuse
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2017, 08:58:51 am »
I agree with you about screaming, cussing coaches. I always performed better for those coaches. However, times are much different than when we played. Today's coach has to be much better behaved.

Times have certainly changed, as have we and what we consider intimidating, but I can't imagine that coaches still aren't, at least to 16-17 year olds.  Even without the dramatics.  Perhaps I'm naïve, but if even if the coach wasn't barking and throwing things, he was still intimidating because...well, he was the coach and had demands and expectations.  Again my old coach, he was the in your face yelling type, but he also had a teaching side.  There were times when he would let you fall on your face, then come over and put his arm around you and say "here's what happened and why...you see now where you've got to...?"  He was an asshole, but he wasn't a bad coach. 
The rules of distinction were thrown out with the baseball cap.  It does not lend itself to protocol.  It is found today on youth in homes, classrooms, even in fine restaurants.  Regardless of its other consequences, this is a breach against civility.  A civilized man should avoid this mania.

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Re: Tennessee HS Coaches being investigated for abuse
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2017, 09:03:42 am »
At Hyde Park Baptist in Austin we had a dickhead gym coach who put us all on the black gravel parking lot to do push-ups until the enterprising 5th grader who'd detonated a stink bomb came clean. He didn't, and still the only lesson I took from that exercise is that some sadists are employed by schools.   

To make that fit in with their mission of providing a fine education with Christian values, I'm sure you recited a Bible verse for each push-up.

(I worked at HPBC for nine years.  I have no love lost for the school.)

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Re: Tennessee HS Coaches being investigated for abuse
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2017, 09:07:41 am »
To make that fit in with their mission of providing a fine education with Christian values, I'm sure you recited a Bible verse for each push-up.

(I worked at HPBC for nine years.  I have no love lost for the school.)

It was Coach Guthrie--did you ever meet the charming bastard? I don't think he had a flea of Christ in him.

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Re: Tennessee HS Coaches being investigated for abuse
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2017, 09:26:24 am »
Times have certainly changed, as have we and what we consider intimidating, but I can't imagine that coaches still aren't, at least to 16-17 year olds.  Even without the dramatics.  Perhaps I'm naïve, but if even if the coach wasn't barking and throwing things, he was still intimidating because...well, he was the coach and had demands and expectations.  Again my old coach, he was the in your face yelling type, but he also had a teaching side.  There were times when he would let you fall on your face, then come over and put his arm around you and say "here's what happened and why...you see now where you've got to...?"  He was an asshole, but he wasn't a bad coach.

I think in general, people have lost the distinction between fear and respect.  There were several adults in my life as a kid I respected and I didn't want to disappoint.  Some of them could raise their voice and yell and even get very personal with their remarks  but I was never afraid of them. I am all for a coach, teacher, band director, etc... having high expectations and making it clear when you have not met those expectations.  I am not okay with fear based intimidation that is not based in making the kid learn or get better, just showing that you have more authority.
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