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Astros @ Expats April 8, 2016
« on: April 08, 2016, 02:12:31 pm »
Your lineups for tonight's tilt:

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2BJose Altuve (R)
RFGeorge Springer (R)
SSCarlos Correa (R)
3BLuis Valbuena (L)
CFCarlos Gomez (R)
1BTyler White (R)
CJason Castro (L)
LFJake Marisnick (R)
PScott Feldman (R)

HOU: Scott Feldman (R)  (0-0, 0.00)

Brew Crew

RF Domingo Santana (R)
2B Scooter Gennett (L)
LF Peen (R)
C Jonathan Lucroy (R)
1B Chris Carter (R)
3B Aaron Hill (R)
SS Jonathan Villar (S)
P Chase Anderson (R)
CF Keon Broxton (R)

MIL: Chase Anderson (R)  (0-0, 0.00)
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Re: Astros @ Expats April 8, 2016
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2016, 06:01:25 pm »
The pitcher's batting eighth. I'd forgotten all about that cute little maneuver. If it's better for him to bat eighth than ninth then why not quit being a pussy and bat him seventh?

By the way, I think we all know that Santana and Carter are going to go nutso this series.
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Re: Astros @ Expats April 8, 2016
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2016, 06:19:14 pm »
Fuck that cheating Peen. That's all I have to say.
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Re: Astros @ Expats April 8, 2016
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2016, 06:19:49 pm »
The pitcher's batting eighth. I'd forgotten all about that cute little maneuver. If it's better for him to bat eighth than ninth then why not quit being a pussy and bat him seventh?

By the way, I think we all know that Santana and Carter are going to go nutso this series.
Carter's gonna hit one 600 feet off Feldman.

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Re: Astros @ Expats April 8, 2016
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2016, 06:28:32 pm »
JV steals bases, rakes, makes no outs on basepaths.

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Re: Astros @ Expats April 8, 2016
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2016, 06:29:08 pm »
JV steals bases, rakes, makes no outs on basepaths.

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Re: Astros @ Expats April 8, 2016
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2016, 07:07:59 pm »
I've been oddly excited about Feldman's return.  I hope I don't run out of liquor tonight.
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Re: Astros @ Expats April 8, 2016
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2016, 07:15:10 pm »
Great AB for Jose there.

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Re: Astros @ Expats April 8, 2016
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2016, 07:18:34 pm »
Great AB for Jose there.

Terrible at bat for George.
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Re: Astros @ Expats April 8, 2016
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2016, 07:23:39 pm »
T1:

Altuve singles to RF
Springer...0-2...strikes out swinging
Altuve steals 2B
Correa...0-2...pops up F4
Valbuena...2-0...pops out to shallow RF

No score
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2016, 07:24:28 pm »
Correa had a good pitch to hit, but I imagine it surprised him a little bit given the count.
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2016, 07:25:26 pm »
Correa had a good pitch to hit, but I imagine it surprised him a little bit given the count.

Valbuena got a good on 2-0 too, but pulled off of it.
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Re: Astros @ Expats April 8, 2016
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2016, 07:29:11 pm »
Gennett hammers the first pitch into the upper deck in CF...1-0 Brews.
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Re: Astros @ Expats April 8, 2016
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2016, 07:29:23 pm »
I saw a blurb Gomez says he wants to retire a Brewer. WTF?
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Re: Astros @ Expats April 8, 2016
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2016, 07:29:43 pm »
Meaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatball. Good to see so much consistency from our pitching staff.
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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2016, 07:30:53 pm »
Boy, that ball barely got out.

Not.
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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2016, 07:30:59 pm »
If little scoots hits one that far, KK may visit Canada vicariously through a baseball that he hit.


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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2016, 07:32:43 pm »

I saw a blurb Gomez says he wants to retire a Brewer. WTF?

He's a free agent next season who wants to cash in. Hope he plays like it all season.


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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2016, 07:34:58 pm »
Thanks dicknose!
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2016, 07:35:14 pm »
Well, on the bright side, our only win so far was a comeback.

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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2016, 07:35:36 pm »
Starting pitching needs to sac the fuck up. And fuck Gomez 
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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2016, 07:35:58 pm »
Great call, Chuck.
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2016, 07:36:03 pm »
Jesus Christ, our pitching staff is hot garbage right now.
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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2016, 07:36:08 pm »
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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2016, 07:36:16 pm »
Chris Carter...the greatest hitter...EVER!  Homers to CF...3-0 Brews
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« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2016, 07:36:25 pm »
Jesus, when was it that Carter hit his first homer last year, July?
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« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2016, 07:37:26 pm »
Feldman is a fucking wreck
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« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2016, 07:37:38 pm »
He's a free agent next season who wants to cash in. Hope he plays like it all season.


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I know he is a FA. Retirement talk is a little premature. We will trade him, I'll bet.
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« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2016, 07:37:38 pm »
B1:

Santana...3-0 as the first three fastballs bounce...3-1...3-2...Ashby bitching about strike 2...called out looking
Gennett homers to CF on the first pitch
Braun...full count...walks
Lucroy lines one off of Feldman's leg for an infield single, Braun to 2B
Braun caught stealing 3B...score it 2-5
Carter homers to CF...Lucroy scores...3-0
Hill flies out F9

3-0 Brewers after one.
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« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2016, 07:38:43 pm »
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« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2016, 07:39:14 pm »
Feldman was great last year before his injury. He ain't great now.
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« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2016, 07:40:33 pm »
Gomez better go fucking nuts this series. If I have to watch him swinging and falling over 4 times a game and and dabbing after hitting his two singles of the series I might just lose my shit at the Home Opener.
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« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2016, 07:41:34 pm »
I score it he went one-third of an inning there, with assists from Castro and the home plate ump.

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« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2016, 07:43:49 pm »
Tyler White wants to know if there is something harder than MLB.
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« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2016, 07:45:17 pm »
I score it he went one-third of an inning there, with assists from Castro and the home plate ump.

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« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2016, 07:45:33 pm »
One of my students grew up with Tyler White. Went to school with him all the way through high school. Has nothing but nice things to say.

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« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2016, 07:48:02 pm »
Rasmus is sitting v RHP?
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« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2016, 07:48:43 pm »
Tyler White wants to know if there is something harder than MLB.

So does the Colo SS
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« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2016, 07:49:31 pm »
T2:

Gomez strikes out looking
White doubles off the LF wall
Castro grounds out 4-3, White to 3B
Marisnick...3-1...flies out F8 at the CF wall

3-0 Brewers
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« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2016, 07:50:03 pm »

So does the Colo SS

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« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2016, 07:50:52 pm »
Rasmus is sitting v RHP?

I was wondering about that too.  I don't know who else the Brewers are starting this series and Marisnick needs a start, but I was surprised he wasn't in the lineup tonight.
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« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2016, 07:53:26 pm »
I'm guessing about half of Feldman's pitches have bounced
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« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2016, 07:54:52 pm »
They just flashed a graphic that Anderson's last sacrifice was last September.  The end of last season?  Gee..imagine that.
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« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2016, 07:55:11 pm »
I'm guessing about half of Feldman's pitches have bounced
Two bounced off Bernie's slide.
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« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2016, 07:55:24 pm »

I was wondering about that too.  I don't know who else the Brewers are starting this series and Marisnick needs a start, but I was surprised he wasn't in the lineup tonight.

My guess is that if the team wasn't playing in MIL then Gomez would be sitting and Jake would be in center and Rasmus in left. AJ likely wanted to give Gomez the start in center for his "homecoming"


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« Reply #45 on: April 08, 2016, 07:59:59 pm »
Castro is money.
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« Reply #46 on: April 08, 2016, 08:00:48 pm »
That was beautiful.
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« Reply #47 on: April 08, 2016, 08:00:59 pm »
Castro is money.

You won't see a better throw than that one.
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« Reply #48 on: April 08, 2016, 08:03:12 pm »
Santana with an RBI double...4-0 now
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« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2016, 08:03:45 pm »
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« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2016, 08:05:18 pm »
B2:

Villar bounces one to 3B, past a drawn in Valbuena for a leadoff single
Anderson strikes out on the sacrifice attempt
Broxton...3-0...3-1...
Villar caught stealing on a perfect throw from Castor...2-4
Broxton...full count now...walks
Broxton steals 2B...Altuve didn't help out much on that one
Santana doubles to LF, Broxton scores
Gennett pops out F6

4-0 Brewers
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« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2016, 08:05:59 pm »
Throw the damn towel!


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« Reply #52 on: April 08, 2016, 08:06:53 pm »
Throw the damn towel!

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« Reply #53 on: April 08, 2016, 08:08:54 pm »
Got damn sports illustrated.
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« Reply #54 on: April 08, 2016, 08:12:05 pm »
Why not bat White second right now?

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« Reply #55 on: April 08, 2016, 08:12:10 pm »
T3:

Feldman strikes out on three pitches
Altuve grounds out 4-3
Springer strikes out swinging

4-0 still
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« Reply #56 on: April 08, 2016, 08:13:10 pm »
Got damn sports illustrated.

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« Reply #57 on: April 08, 2016, 08:17:00 pm »
Watching Braun bat I am reminded of one of the reasons I was not particularly sad to see Brett Wallace go: that insufferable Jeterian "I'm not ready yet, ump" maneuver.

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« Reply #58 on: April 08, 2016, 08:18:11 pm »
Watching Braun bat I am reminded of one of the reasons I was not particularly sad to see Brett Wallace go: that insufferable Jeterian "I'm not ready yet, ump" maneuver.

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« Reply #59 on: April 08, 2016, 08:21:40 pm »
B3:

The Peen pops out F4 in shallow RF
Lucroy grounds out 6-3
Carter grounds out 4-3

4-0 after 3
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« Reply #60 on: April 08, 2016, 08:22:23 pm »
How is Alan Ashby a preofessional broadcaster?
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« Reply #61 on: April 08, 2016, 08:23:50 pm »
How is Alan Ashby a preofessional broadcaster?

He is professional only in the sense that he (presumably) gets paid. Although perhaps he doesn't get paid, and that's why they hang onto him.
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« Reply #62 on: April 08, 2016, 08:25:23 pm »
I hate that too

Because batters are constantly being smacked in the face by fastballs while situating themselves in the box...

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« Reply #63 on: April 08, 2016, 08:27:37 pm »
He is professional only in the sense that he (presumably) gets paid. Although perhaps he doesn't get paid, and that's why they hang onto him.

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« Reply #64 on: April 08, 2016, 08:28:55 pm »
Insane amount of check-swing grounders from the good guys to start the year.

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« Reply #65 on: April 08, 2016, 08:29:38 pm »
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« Reply #66 on: April 08, 2016, 08:30:26 pm »
Insane amount of check-swing grounders from the good guys to start the year.
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« Reply #67 on: April 08, 2016, 08:31:16 pm »
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« Reply #68 on: April 08, 2016, 08:31:45 pm »
I was/am a Gomez fan, but how do you get picked off down FOUR FUCKING RUNS?
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« Reply #69 on: April 08, 2016, 08:31:54 pm »
Oh good, nice work Carlos. You're definitely not my least favorite Astro.
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« Reply #70 on: April 08, 2016, 08:32:20 pm »
T4:

Correa lines up the middle right to the SS behind 2B...6-3
Valbuena check swing tapper back to the mound...1-3
Gomez doubles to RCF
With White at the plate, Gomez picked off of 2B...score it 1-5-4-1-5-6-7...I think
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« Reply #71 on: April 08, 2016, 08:34:32 pm »
With White at the plate, Gomez picked off of 2B...score it 1-5-4-7-6...I think

And I imagine that we'll be treated to a White single to lead off the next inning.
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« Reply #72 on: April 08, 2016, 08:34:51 pm »
Damn you, chuck.

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« Reply #73 on: April 08, 2016, 08:36:42 pm »
I was/am a Gomez fan, but how do you get picked off down FOUR FUCKING RUNS?

A fan should get to punch him in the nuts for something that stupid.
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« Reply #74 on: April 08, 2016, 08:38:01 pm »
On an "intriguing" binge

He's been on an intriguing binge down through the years.
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« Reply #75 on: April 08, 2016, 08:39:39 pm »
Anderson is a very bad bunter.
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« Reply #76 on: April 08, 2016, 08:42:30 pm »
B4:

Hill strikes out swinging
Villar walks
Anderson strikes out trying to sacrifice
Broxton strikes out swinging


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Picks mic back up for another dramatic dropping.

I mean, seriously, all of us knew this, right? Right?
Well yea...but we were all ignoring the elephant in the room.
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« Reply #78 on: April 08, 2016, 08:47:41 pm »
Carter doesn't really like to stretch at 1B.  He could have had White on that.
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« Reply #79 on: April 08, 2016, 08:51:39 pm »
Too bad it's an NL park, they could DH for Castro.
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« Reply #80 on: April 08, 2016, 08:55:09 pm »
T5:

White with an infield single to SS...Villar backhanded it, but kinda stumbled just a little and couldn't nip him, as Carter really didn't feel like stretching much
Castro strikes out swinging
Marisnick flies out F7 at the track
Rasmus, pinch hitting for Feldman...pops up F2

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« Reply #81 on: April 08, 2016, 08:57:02 pm »
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« Reply #82 on: April 08, 2016, 08:57:50 pm »
Chris Devenski making his Major League debut...
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« Reply #83 on: April 08, 2016, 08:59:27 pm »
In to play left field for Houston, the Revenant.

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« Reply #84 on: April 08, 2016, 08:59:46 pm »
Chris Devenski making his Major League debut...

I bet he does well.

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In to play left field for Houston, the Revenant.

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« Reply #86 on: April 08, 2016, 09:03:24 pm »
B5:

Devenski in for the Astros...

Santana strikes out looking
Gennett grounds out 6-3
Braun...3-0...3-1...pops out F5 in foul ground

After five...4-0 Brewers
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Is it just me...Devenski reminds me a lot of Brandon Backe...physically and his motion.
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« Reply #88 on: April 08, 2016, 09:06:53 pm »
I can see it physically for sure. Devenski sort of falls to first base in his delivery--did Backe do that?

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« Reply #89 on: April 08, 2016, 09:07:12 pm »
Is it just me...Devenski reminds me a lot of Brandon Backe...physically and his motion.
Now that you mention it, very backe like

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« Reply #90 on: April 08, 2016, 09:12:17 pm »
Sharp base running by Carlos, the Correa one of course.


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« Reply #91 on: April 08, 2016, 09:14:11 pm »
T6:

Torres in for the Crew...

Altuve grounds out 5-3
Springer grounds out 6-3
Correa doubles on a little flair over 1B
Valbuena taps back to the mound again...1-3

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« Reply #92 on: April 08, 2016, 09:15:28 pm »
I can see it physically for sure. Devenski sort of falls to first base in his delivery--did Backe do that?

Yes.  Perhaps not as much though.  It just sort of went through my head that he reminded me a lot of Backe.
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« Reply #93 on: April 08, 2016, 09:17:59 pm »
Feldman 4 innings. Not exactly an inspiring comeback.
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« Reply #94 on: April 08, 2016, 09:20:04 pm »
Glad to see I didn't miss much while I was at the store.

Back JUST in time for another Chris Carter laserbeam.
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« Reply #95 on: April 08, 2016, 09:20:22 pm »
Is it just me...Devenski reminds me a lot of Brandon Backe...physically and his motion.
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« Reply #96 on: April 08, 2016, 09:23:07 pm »
B6:

Lucroy flies out F7
Carter doubles to LF
Hill flies out to CF on a diving catch by Gomez
Villar strikes out looking

4-0
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« Reply #97 on: April 08, 2016, 09:23:55 pm »
This home plate umpire really feeling it tonight.
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« Reply #98 on: April 08, 2016, 09:23:56 pm »
Feldman 4 innings. Not exactly an inspiring comeback.

He was all over the place too.  Pitches bouncing, hanging breaking balls...not a good start. 
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« Reply #99 on: April 08, 2016, 09:24:23 pm »
This home plate umpire really feeling it tonight.

He's earning his pay...but he's been pretty damn good too.
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« Reply #100 on: April 08, 2016, 09:25:12 pm »

Glad to see I didn't miss much while I was at the store.

Back JUST in time for another Chris Carter laserbeam.

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« Reply #101 on: April 08, 2016, 09:26:04 pm »
I'm not sure who'll be on the outside looking in but in short order McCullers and Devenski will be in the rotation.
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« Reply #102 on: April 08, 2016, 09:31:15 pm »
T7:

Gomez...works the count full...flies out F8
White strikes out looking
Castro grounds out 3U...still 0 for 2016

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« Reply #103 on: April 08, 2016, 09:32:53 pm »
I'm not sure who'll be on the outside looking in but in short order McCullers and Devenski will be in the rotation.

I'm digging Devenski
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« Reply #104 on: April 08, 2016, 09:36:21 pm »
B7:

Niewenhius, pinch hitting for Torres...strikes out swinging
Broxton strikes out swinging
Santana flies out F9

Still 4-0 Brewers
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« Reply #105 on: April 08, 2016, 09:36:57 pm »
Very good from devenski. Fantastic control. I want to see more

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« Reply #106 on: April 08, 2016, 09:37:08 pm »
I'm digging Devenski

I've liked him for a while. Great changeup. They may be forced to go with 13 pitchers in the next few days if the starters don't hang around longer.

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« Reply #107 on: April 08, 2016, 09:37:58 pm »
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« Reply #108 on: April 08, 2016, 09:38:18 pm »
I've liked him for a while. Great changeup. They may be forced to go with 13 pitchers in the next few days if the starters don't hang around longer.

They're in double digits in ERA...something's gotta give.
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« Reply #109 on: April 08, 2016, 09:39:41 pm »
Devenski seems to have a vague idea of what he wants to do and how he wants to do it. He looks a lot like a pitcher.
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« Reply #110 on: April 08, 2016, 09:41:57 pm »
Rasmus resembles a goatherd.


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« Reply #111 on: April 08, 2016, 09:45:19 pm »
I'm assuming that creepy guy talking to himself in the beer section was you.

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I can see why someone trying to buy beer would be muttering to himself. What if you don't care for the combination of bubble gum esters and crisp biscuit malt?
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« Reply #112 on: April 08, 2016, 09:45:33 pm »
T8:

Thornburg in for the Brewers

Tucker, pinch hitting for Devenski...strikes out swinging
Rasmus 3-0...walks on four pitches
Altuve flies out F9
Springer strikes out flailing wildly, falling to his knees

4-0 Brewers
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Springer is channeling Gomez.

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Springer is channeling Gomez.

The only thing that could possibly be worse than this is Springer channeling Castro.
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Braun goes deep to CF...6-0 Brewers
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« Reply #116 on: April 08, 2016, 09:53:57 pm »
So, is it football season yet?

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« Reply #117 on: April 08, 2016, 09:59:25 pm »
B8:

Fields in...

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Lucroy strikes out swinging
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To the 9th...Astros down 6-0
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« Reply #118 on: April 08, 2016, 10:03:31 pm »
Devenski and White and Castro's gun the lone and entirely insufficient bright spots thus far in an otherwise ugly performance.

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White!!!!!
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« Reply #120 on: April 08, 2016, 10:08:28 pm »
This White guy is good.  No racist.

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« Reply #121 on: April 08, 2016, 10:08:44 pm »
I"m a full-fledged member of the TWFC now.. that boy can hit!

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« Reply #122 on: April 08, 2016, 10:09:57 pm »
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« Reply #123 on: April 08, 2016, 10:10:21 pm »
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« Reply #124 on: April 08, 2016, 10:10:45 pm »
White!!!!!

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I don't really understand how he generates his power with that swing.
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I"m a full-fledged member of the TWFC now.. that boy can hit!

Welcome aboard.  This is unreal

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I don't really understand how he generates his power with that swing.

Not sure either but his beer gut isn't insubstantial.


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Tucker hit the piss out of that pitch.


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Tucker with an RBI double, and the Astros have the tying run at the plate with one out...
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« Reply #130 on: April 08, 2016, 10:19:44 pm »
Hmm...

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« Reply #132 on: April 08, 2016, 10:20:42 pm »
What a shitty ending to the game.

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« Reply #133 on: April 08, 2016, 10:20:45 pm »
T9:

Freeman into close it out...

Correa singles to LF
Valbuena flies out F7
Gomez singles off of Freeman's leg...Correa to 2B
White homers to RCF...Correa scores, Gomez scores...6-3 now
Marwin, pinch hitting for Castro...3-0...four pitch walk

That's it for Freeman, Jeffress in

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Altuve grounds into 4-6 FC...now the Utley Rule invoked and Altuve called out, even though there was no effort to turn two, and the game ends

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« Reply #134 on: April 08, 2016, 10:21:12 pm »
What a crock of shit
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« Reply #135 on: April 08, 2016, 10:21:40 pm »
Wholly unsatisfying

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« Reply #136 on: April 08, 2016, 10:22:07 pm »
But listening to Bob Uecker was quite good..

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« Reply #137 on: April 08, 2016, 10:23:03 pm »
Wow.  That's a ridiculous way to end the game.  Very sad

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Ash is absolutely correct. If Colby goes in straight he beats the throw.
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« Reply #139 on: April 08, 2016, 10:23:43 pm »
Total horseshit.
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« Reply #140 on: April 08, 2016, 10:26:31 pm »
Fucking speechless. Way to rescue the game from drama, MLB. Nothing like a statutory termination to something resembling actual baseball to send you to bed happy.

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Ash is absolutely correct. If Colby goes in straight he beats the throw.

I don't think Colby is safe, but that's the rule now.  You just can't do what he did now. 
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« Reply #142 on: April 08, 2016, 10:32:18 pm »
I was watching without commentary. What did he do wrong? Slide through the base?

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I was watching without commentary. What did he do wrong? Slide through the base?

Yep.  You can't do that now. 
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« Reply #144 on: April 08, 2016, 10:39:04 pm »
Even when you're out, and there's no contact, and there's no attempt at a double play.

Why shouldn't there be room for an umpire to make a judgment call, here?


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Even when you're out, and there's no contact, and there's no attempt at a double play.

Why shouldn't there be room for an umpire to make a judgment call, here?

Because MLB wants those types of slides out of the game.  Period.  There was no play at 1B when Utley took out Tejada last year either.  This is the new rule. 
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Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that. I just honestly don't see what was wrong with Rasmus's slide. He started before reaching the bag, he didn't make contact with the fielder, he could touch (and did, didn't he?) second base... That you slide through a bag after being tagged out seems a woefully thin rope to hang an additional out from.

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Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that. I just honestly don't see what was wrong with Rasmus's slide. He started before reaching the bag, he didn't make contact with the fielder, he could touch (and did, didn't he?) second base... That you slide through a bag after being tagged out seems a woefully thin rope to hang an additional out from.

That was exactly what Utley did, and people screamed bloody murder.  Some people wanted criminal charges filed. 

I don't like the rule either, but MLB has decided that they want that play gone, and both leagues and the players agreed to it.  It's the rule now, and they called the rule. 
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HH is correct; the rule is now the rule. Shame on Rasmus for not knowing it.

Shame on that dabbing frontrunner for getting his ass picked off against his former mates with our hottest stick at the dish. Pure bush league. Dumb ass. I say let him retire a Brewer. Fuck him. So far, his Astro career stinks.

Though it's very early, I'm concerned that our current starting rotation isn't good enough to compete. Obviously, I love Keuchel. McHugh ran into a tough cold night. It happens. He should be alright. However, in my opinion, neither Feldman nor Fiers is worthy of starting pitcher innings.

I can't wait to get McCullers back, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them give Devenski a start or two just to see how he does. I also wouldn't be surprised to see them look around for another starting pitcher, which makes the trade to Philly start to look questionable. I hope that Giles gets things worked out soon. As HH said, the future is right now.
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« Reply #149 on: April 09, 2016, 08:51:28 am »
Shame on that dabbing frontrunner for getting his ass picked off against his former mates with our hottest stick at the dish. Pure bush league. Dumb ass. I say let him retire a Brewer. Fuck him. So far, his Astro career stinks.


Brewers probably wouldn't take him back straight up for Phillips.  He needs to STFU. 

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HH is correct; the rule is now the rule. Shame on Rasmus for not knowing it.

I wasn't disagreeing. I was just recognizing for the first time the enormity of the rule-change. Hinch's comments in McTaggart's write-up reflect my own thoughts. (http://m.astros.mlb.com/news/article/171318948/slide-rule-impacts-end-of-astros-brewers-game) If this is the result, they should consider revisiting the change.

However, in my opinion, neither Feldman nor Fiers is worthy of starting pitcher innings.

Way too early to give up on Fiers. He pitched 62.1 innings for us last year with a 3.32 ERA. And a no-hitter.

I can't wait to get McCullers back, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them give Devenski a start or two just to see how he does. I also wouldn't be surprised to see them look around for another starting pitcher, which makes the trade to Philly start to look questionable. I hope that Giles gets things worked out soon. As HH said, the future is right now.

Devenski was a revelation. It occurs to me that the starting pitching (Keuchel accepted) was quietly pretty unimpressive for just about the entire second half of ST. And Giles got touched in nearly every outing.

I watched a lot of the ST games vis a vis NL East broadcasts, and to a one they were gleeful about Giles's departure. That plus past performance gives me hope that he's just going through some young-guy-first-time-traded-to-a-contender-transition blues...

What worries me most is that we continue to be a team that doesn't quite do things right. Gomez Gomezing off second base and the Revenant spoiling a thrilling comeback seem of a piece with any number of critical mishaps that have haunted this team for years (Correa's Game 4 flub the most pronounced). These Astros seem to consistently just fail to get over the hump. I suppose that is baseball, which is suffering, but Jesus Christ. Certainly other teams--more veteran teams, with longer histories of competitive play--don't as routinely shoot themselves in the foot.

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« Reply #151 on: April 09, 2016, 10:22:47 am »
I wasn't disagreeing. I was just recognizing for the first time the enormity of the rule-change. Hinch's comments in McTaggart's write-up reflect my own thoughts. (http://m.astros.mlb.com/news/article/171318948/slide-rule-impacts-end-of-astros-brewers-game) If this is the result, they should consider revisiting the change.

Baseball wants those slides out.  Fans have watched it for years, but they called for heads to roll after Utley's slide on Tejada.  The point isn't about whether or not there was a play at 1B, or how much contact there was, that's exactly the kind of slide that can and does occasionally lead to serious injury.  I don't think MLB wants umpires to have discretion, and they knew it would be a learning curve for players, managers and fans.  But that rule is here to stay. 

On a side note, I pleased to see Hinch act far more professional than Girardi or Gibbons over a controversial call.

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Too early to give up on Feldman too.  Perhaps I'm blinded a bit, but I think Feldman can be effective.

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I think you can say that at any given moment for any team that doesn't win the World Series.  Every team makes mistakes, and every team makes great plays.  These Astros still have a lot of problems, including the inability to put the ball in play far too often.  But there's a ton of talent, and it will yield results. 
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« Reply #152 on: April 09, 2016, 10:26:01 am »
Baseball wants those slides out.  Fans have watched it for years, but they called for heads to roll after Utley's slide on Tejada.  The point isn't about whether or not there was a play at 1B, or how much contact there was, that's exactly the kind of slide that can and does occasionally lead to serious injury.  I don't think MLB wants umpires to have discretion, and they knew it would be a learning curve for players, managers and fans.  But that rule is here to stay. 

On a side note, I pleased to see Hinch act far more professional than Girardi or Gibbons over a controversial call.

Too early to give up on Feldman too.  Perhaps I'm blinded a bit, but I think Feldman can be effective.

I think you can say that at any given moment for any team that doesn't win the World Series.  Every team makes mistakes, and every team makes great plays.  These Astros still have a lot of problems, including the inability to put the ball in play far too often.  But there's a ton of talent, and it will yield results.
Feldman and Fiers throw way too many meatballs for my liking. I think that Fiers has better stuff than Feldman, but the hittable meatballs have to go. I don't have much faith in Feldman.
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« Reply #153 on: April 09, 2016, 10:26:20 am »
HH is correct; the rule is now the rule. Shame on Rasmus for not knowing it.


I'm not going fault Rasmus too much for following his instincts on that slide.  New rule, high adrenaline moment, been doing it that way for his career.  First base coach should have reminded him before the play if he didn't.  Now that the lesson is learned though, I'd expect him and the rest of the Astros to no longer get caught by this.

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« Reply #154 on: April 09, 2016, 10:29:45 am »
I'm not going fault Rasmus too much for following his instincts on that slide.  New rule, high adrenaline moment, been doing it that way for his career.

Of course, I think the same thing about Utley.
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« Reply #155 on: April 09, 2016, 10:41:07 am »
Of course, I think the same thing about Utley.

I understand what you are saying about Utley and agree in that this was the way the game was played for generations. He was doing what was expected of him by his teammates and coaches and what is instincts told him to do. Having said that, there is not much similar about the Rasmus and the Utley slides. I think the new rule are too strict and there should be room for interpretation from the umps. As Keuchel tweeted "are we even playing baseball anymore"? 

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« Reply #156 on: April 09, 2016, 10:48:33 am »
I understand what you are saying about Utley and agree in that this was the way the game was played for generations. He was doing what was expected of him by his teammates and coaches and what is instincts told him to do. Having said that, there is not much similar about the Rasmus and the Utley slides. I think the new rule are too strict and there should be room for interpretation from the umps. As Keuchel tweeted "are we even playing baseball anymore"?

Although HH didn't care for it, I laughed at John Gibbons' dress comment about the call in the Blue Jays game. I also liked his "lighten up, Francis" comments after his dress remark caused a firestorm of PC criticism.
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« Reply #157 on: April 09, 2016, 10:49:10 am »
Having said that, there is not much similar about the Rasmus and the Utley slides.

Other than the results, they are almost identical.
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« Reply #158 on: April 09, 2016, 11:11:07 am »
Other than the results, they are almost identical.

No they are not. Utley's was a rolling block. Look again. http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/11493214/v521658783/dodgers-chase-utleys-slide-injures-mets-ruben-tejada


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« Reply #159 on: April 09, 2016, 11:22:14 am »
No they are not. Utley's was a rolling block. Look again. http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/11493214/v521658783/dodgers-chase-utleys-slide-injures-mets-ruben-tejada

That's not a "rolling block".  This is a rolling block:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIiYw53nGd0

At any rate, the new rule ain't going anywhere. 
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« Reply #160 on: April 09, 2016, 05:53:53 pm »
Too early to give up on Feldman too.  Perhaps I'm blinded a bit, but I think Feldman can be effective.

It's probably the case that his struggles yesterday were magnified by the two preceding abysmal starts. It definitely could've been a lot worse. When Feldman is on, he's got that nice easy just-having-a-catch-with-my-bro-Jason quality that sort of lulls everyone to sleep.

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Re: Astros @ Expats April 8, 2016
« Reply #161 on: April 09, 2016, 06:04:41 pm »
It's probably the case that his struggles yesterday were magnified by the two preceding abysmal starts. It definitely could've been a lot worse. When Feldman is on, he's got that nice easy just-having-a-catch-with-my-bro-Jason quality that sort of lulls everyone to sleep.

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