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ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« on: October 14, 2015, 04:43:06 pm »
ASTROS LINEUP

Jose Altuve, 2B
George Springer, RF
Carlos Correa, SS
Colby Rasmus, LF
Carlos Gomez, CF
Evan Gattis, DH
Luis Valbuena, 3B
Chris Carter, 1B
Jason Castro, C

Collin McHugh, P

ROYALS LINEUP

Alcides Escobar, SS
Ben Zobrist, 2B
Lorenzo Cain, CF
Eric Hosmer, 1B
Kendrys Morales, DH
Mike Moustakas, 3B
Salvador Perez, C
Alex Gordon, LF
Alex Rios, RF

Johnny Cueto, P
Oye. Vamos, vamos.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2015, 04:55:01 pm »
You got it guys!

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2015, 05:00:08 pm »
Lineup card

Keuchel in the portion of the card generally reserved for unavailable pitchers.  But I wouldn't place much value on that.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2015, 06:54:25 pm »
BTW, how the fuck is what Cueto does allowed?
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2015, 06:55:40 pm »
BTW, how the fuck is what Cueto does allowed?

Gonna need some context.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2015, 06:57:49 pm »
Gonna need some context.

You must not have watched him pitch.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2015, 06:59:45 pm »
You must not have watched him pitch.
Or I don't remember.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2015, 07:00:37 pm »
Or I don't remember.

Was referring specifically to the rocking back and forth like a Kansas City you-know-what. Watch tonight, you'll see.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2015, 07:01:23 pm »
Gonna need some context.

His BS twitch and pause move the douche calls "the rocking chair".

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2015, 07:02:39 pm »
Win or lose, it was a fun season and they lasted longer then the Rangers

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2015, 07:03:46 pm »
Win or lose, it was a fun season and they lasted longer then the Rangers

And the fucking Co-ardinals..
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2015, 07:04:27 pm »
All hail the power of Wotan and Frito Pie!
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2015, 07:12:23 pm »
Gotta swing there George
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2015, 07:14:08 pm »
Top 1:

Altuve: pop-out
Springer: down looking
Correa: fly to right

3 up, 3 down, McHugh on.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2015, 07:20:29 pm »
Bottom 1:

Escobar flys out first pitch
Zobrist works it full and walks.
Cain GIDP.

Even through one.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2015, 07:28:33 pm »
Pierzinski says running your mouth is the fun part of baseball.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2015, 07:29:09 pm »
Gattis's chest is tag kryptonite.


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2015, 07:29:14 pm »
Fuck yeah
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2015, 07:29:25 pm »
Listened to the end of the Rangers game. Had an interesting fact. Jays ended longest active playoff drought in US major professional sports. Of the remaining teams, they most recently won a world series.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2015, 07:29:28 pm »
Oh, yeah!!!
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2015, 07:29:33 pm »
Valbuena!!!


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2015, 07:30:27 pm »
Valbuena!!
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2015, 07:31:29 pm »
Fuck yes, Luis makes it two-nothing with a shot into the RF bullpen. Carter pops out to end the inning, bottom of the second.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2015, 07:34:29 pm »
When Gattis got on I somehow knew he would score.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2015, 07:35:43 pm »
Having 3 CFs doesnt hurt. rasmus chases down Morales for 2nd out.
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« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2015, 07:36:30 pm »
Having 3 CFs doesnt hurt. rasmus chases down Morales for 2nd out.

And they hit the 3rd out right at Springer, headed to the third.
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« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2015, 07:38:42 pm »

When Gattis got on I somehow knew he would score.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2015, 07:41:34 pm »
It looks like Altuve is dipping his back shoulder slightly on every swing.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2015, 07:43:52 pm »
Springer is trying to park everything.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2015, 07:44:16 pm »
Not getting anything from Altuve or Springer
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2015, 07:44:48 pm »
Three up, three down in T3.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2015, 07:46:09 pm »
It looks like Altuve is dipping his back shoulder slightly on every swing.

From my layman point of view it seems like Altuve has embraced that aggressive reputation fully this postseason. But with all things Altuve that can change with one at bat. He's had great at bats before.

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« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2015, 07:48:10 pm »
HPU loving the low strike
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2015, 07:49:01 pm »
That catcher mike or effect is annoying.

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« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2015, 07:50:50 pm »
Double play on a shift.. amazing..

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« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2015, 07:52:00 pm »
McHugh gets the double play ball and groundout to pitcher to bring us to the 4th.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #36 on: October 14, 2015, 07:53:13 pm »
Ok, have no sound, WTF?
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2015, 07:53:39 pm »
Should have been a groundout to the pitcher but Rios gets on with an infield hit.

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« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2015, 07:54:22 pm »
Cleans up with a fly to Gomez. Still dont know what happened.
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« Reply #39 on: October 14, 2015, 07:54:29 pm »
Rios stranded at first with a popup to Gomez in center.   Now on to the 4th.

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« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2015, 07:55:01 pm »
McHugh gets the double play ball and groundout to pitcher to bring us to the 4th.

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« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2015, 07:55:14 pm »
Cleans up with a fly to Gomez. Still dont know what happened.

McHugh couldn't get to Rios' grounder and by the time that Correa got to it he had to eat it.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2015, 07:55:56 pm »
Are you watching today's game?

On a plane with no sound, and to tell the truth I've had a couple drinks.
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« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2015, 07:58:57 pm »
On a plane with no sound, and to tell the truth I've had a couple drinks.

When the sound goes out plug your earphones back in.

And take them out when you order another drink otherwise you'll be shouting at the flight attendant.
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« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2015, 07:59:55 pm »
When the sound goes out plug your earphones back in.

And take them out when you order another drink otherwise you'll be shouting at the flight attendant.

The plane ran out of headphones, and I decided to forego the riot (lest I miss the entire game).
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« Reply #45 on: October 14, 2015, 08:00:05 pm »
On a plane with no sound, and to tell the truth I've had a couple drinks.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2015, 08:00:51 pm »
"Astros are 1-9 in postseason elimination games."

Uh, no.   Last week in New York and 2004 NLDS in Atlanta.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2015, 08:01:56 pm »
Correa flies out to center
Rasmus made to look silly on a slider for the K
Gomez swings wildly to strike out.

Astros up 2-0 going to bottom of 4

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #48 on: October 14, 2015, 08:02:20 pm »
What does it matter to tonight's game what either team did 30 years ago?
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #49 on: October 14, 2015, 08:02:57 pm »
A little self control in the batters box would go a long way.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #50 on: October 14, 2015, 08:03:19 pm »

"Astros are 1-9 in postseason elimination games."

Uh, no.   Last week in New York and 2004 NLDS in Atlanta.


I think this excludes series won before the Astros were on the brink. 


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« Reply #51 on: October 14, 2015, 08:05:41 pm »
They corrected the stat.  Nice.

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« Reply #52 on: October 14, 2015, 08:05:57 pm »
They just quote you Valpo?
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« Reply #53 on: October 14, 2015, 08:07:18 pm »
That curve from McHugh was more filthy than a boat load of Russian hookers. 


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« Reply #54 on: October 14, 2015, 08:07:38 pm »
Gates not available. Good omen
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« Reply #55 on: October 14, 2015, 08:14:28 pm »

Gates not available. Good omen

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« Reply #56 on: October 14, 2015, 08:14:44 pm »
Apparently
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« Reply #57 on: October 14, 2015, 08:15:07 pm »
If the Gods are smiling on anyone this series, it's the Royals, like a Cheshire fucking Cat. 


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« Reply #58 on: October 14, 2015, 08:17:36 pm »
Dicksmash #1 out of the way. End it here Colin.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #59 on: October 14, 2015, 08:21:27 pm »
Zobrist strikes out on the curve!   -- They said he only struck out once in the series
Cain takes it to 3-2 fouling off a few-  Castro having issues handling the curve in the dirt.
     And an excuse-me swing nets a single to right.
Hosmer bloops one to center and Cain scores as Gomez falls on his ass.   Cain is fast.
Morales fouls out to Altuve in short right.
Moustakas down quickly 0-2, ball, foul, foul pop up to short left.. Rasmus runs it down.

Astros still lead 2-1 after 4.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #60 on: October 14, 2015, 08:21:45 pm »
Fucking Carter was standing right in Altuve's way if he had to throw to 2nd after that foul pop-up.
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« Reply #61 on: October 14, 2015, 08:21:46 pm »
McHugh gets out of it.  Garbage run for KC, but it still counts.


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #62 on: October 14, 2015, 08:23:04 pm »
I'd sure like to see a baserunner, just to see how Cueto handles it.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #63 on: October 14, 2015, 08:23:57 pm »

I'd sure like to see a baserunner, just to see how Cueto handles it.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #64 on: October 14, 2015, 08:28:32 pm »
Top 5

Gattis 1-2 strikes out on a high fastball
Valbuena.. Cueto seems to want nothing to do with him..  popped him up to Hosmer 10 feet from home in foul territory
Carter 0-2 quickly, ball low, foul straight back, and strikes out on a slider.

Astros up 2-1 middle 5

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #65 on: October 14, 2015, 08:29:21 pm »
Speaking of "not baseball", how are you allowed to stop for two seconds in the middle of your windup
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #66 on: October 14, 2015, 08:29:57 pm »
Gattis ripped one foul to Pluto, and "towering" doesn't even begin to describe Val's pop up. 


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #67 on: October 14, 2015, 08:30:33 pm »
methinks Cueto about to get blowed up

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #68 on: October 14, 2015, 08:30:59 pm »

Speaking of "not baseball", how are you allowed to stop for two seconds in the middle of your windup

He's using his parietal eye. 


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #69 on: October 14, 2015, 08:31:45 pm »
Speaking of "not baseball", how are you allowed to stop for two seconds in the middle of your windup

This shit drives me nuts.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #70 on: October 14, 2015, 08:36:44 pm »
McHugh starting to nibble. 


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #71 on: October 14, 2015, 08:36:51 pm »
Must we go to a full count on every batter?
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #72 on: October 14, 2015, 08:37:41 pm »
Another fucking 2-strike hit.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #73 on: October 14, 2015, 08:38:31 pm »
Astros defense hasn't been rock solid.


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #74 on: October 14, 2015, 08:39:22 pm »
For those wondering where Fiers has been...
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #75 on: October 14, 2015, 08:39:27 pm »
  Fiers in.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #76 on: October 14, 2015, 08:40:07 pm »
Fuck. Colin was doing great. I hate this.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #77 on: October 14, 2015, 08:41:06 pm »
Must've seen something in McHugh's eyes..

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #78 on: October 14, 2015, 08:41:51 pm »
I'm trying to figure out why Springer didn't catch that ball.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #79 on: October 14, 2015, 08:41:56 pm »
Fuck, I get on the ground and this all goes to shit. Going to see if I can get the driver to get us airborne off the tribrough
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #80 on: October 14, 2015, 08:43:28 pm »
So much for Colin's runs...

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #81 on: October 14, 2015, 08:44:53 pm »
That ball looked foul, but every close one goes the other way...or so it seems.
He breezed him, one more time!

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #82 on: October 14, 2015, 08:45:26 pm »
How fucking lucky again.  That was fair by a pube...maybe. 


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #83 on: October 14, 2015, 08:46:33 pm »
That ball looked foul, but every close one goes the other way...or so it seems.
Angel Hernandez is the 3B ump.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #84 on: October 14, 2015, 08:48:35 pm »
Bottom 5

Perez - ball, foul, strike looking, check-swing ball, curve ball in the dirt,  HBP on the elbow armor.
Fiers up in the pen
Gordon - strike down the middle, curve fouled just outside first, ball high, ball low and inside, ball bounced, ground rule double
nobody out men on second and third.

Fiers in to face Rios
Rios - ball high, strike on the outside edge, rips a double down the left field line scoring two on a curve ball.
Escobar - sac bunt to Valbuena 5-3.   
Man on 3rd, one out.   Crowd back in it
Zobrist - ball outside,  curve in the dirt.. good block by Jason, strike , sac fly to springer scores the run
2-4 Royals
Cain grounds out 4-3.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #85 on: October 14, 2015, 08:48:54 pm »
This Royals team is blessed.  They just can't be stopped.
Goin' for a bus ride.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #86 on: October 14, 2015, 08:49:17 pm »
Time to Jump on Jhonny

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #87 on: October 14, 2015, 08:49:18 pm »
 Ready to puke. And ready to kick that gorillas ass.


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #88 on: October 14, 2015, 08:49:31 pm »
This Royals team is blessed.  They just can't be stopped.

It's destiny.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #89 on: October 14, 2015, 08:51:26 pm »
Local political ads!  This is great!
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #90 on: October 14, 2015, 08:51:51 pm »
Ready to puke. And ready to kick that gorillas ass.


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #91 on: October 14, 2015, 08:52:08 pm »
It's destiny.
Fuck destiny.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #92 on: October 14, 2015, 08:53:41 pm »
That inning...

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #93 on: October 14, 2015, 08:54:04 pm »
Top 6

Castro - strike, popup just behind short that Escober runs down.
Altuve - foul, Gordon runs it down in foul territory
Springer pops one up behind second, Can o' corn.

Quick 1-2-3 for Cueto.. 2-4 Royals
 

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #94 on: October 14, 2015, 08:54:06 pm »
Christ, anyone want to take a pitch?


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #95 on: October 14, 2015, 08:54:31 pm »
Altuve is pathetic. What a terrible effort.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #96 on: October 14, 2015, 08:55:20 pm »
Fuck destiny.

Astros fixin' to rally!

Reverse jinx failed. I take responsibility for that poor ass showing.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #97 on: October 14, 2015, 08:55:35 pm »
Christ, anyone want to take a pitch?

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #98 on: October 14, 2015, 08:56:28 pm »
Why was Springer so shallow on Gordon? That was catchable.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #99 on: October 14, 2015, 08:57:05 pm »
Altuve is pathetic. What a terrible effort.
He's under everything. Except the ones in the dirt, which he rolls over on quite easily.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #100 on: October 14, 2015, 08:57:09 pm »
Can't remember a hook that quick for a 19 game winner on normal rest.


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #101 on: October 14, 2015, 08:57:16 pm »

Why was Springer so shallow on Gordon? That was catchable.

I'll never understand it.


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #102 on: October 14, 2015, 08:57:24 pm »
Hinch needs to make DVD's of the KC at-bats and make everybody watch them in the off-season.

I wish that was the case. But so far this series has been a bullpen failure. Still time left.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #103 on: October 14, 2015, 08:58:09 pm »
Why was Springer so shallow on Gordon? That was catchable.

They're worried about liability if he runs into the fence.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #104 on: October 14, 2015, 08:58:25 pm »
This Royals team is blessed.  They just can't be stopped.

Apparently not.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #105 on: October 14, 2015, 08:58:26 pm »
No Fiers for the 6th?

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #106 on: October 14, 2015, 08:58:34 pm »
I wish that was the case. But so far this series has been a bullpen failure. Still time left.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #107 on: October 14, 2015, 08:58:50 pm »
Why was Springer so shallow on Gordon? That was catchable.
I thought he still could've caught it. Looked to me like he pulled up just when he should've been reaching out to make the running catch. Maybe thought he was about to hit the wall??
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #108 on: October 14, 2015, 08:59:05 pm »

No Fiers for the 6th?

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« Reply #109 on: October 14, 2015, 08:59:22 pm »

Can't remember a hook that quick for a 19 game winner on normal rest.


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #110 on: October 14, 2015, 08:59:43 pm »
I wish that was the case. But so far this series has been a bullpen failure. Still time left.

Hell, no. They put the ball in play. Half of the hits are bloops and 4 hoppers. It is their approach.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #111 on: October 14, 2015, 09:00:06 pm »
2 hits won't cut it

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« Reply #112 on: October 14, 2015, 09:01:37 pm »
Not talking about this game alone.
Shit happens. They lost the last game. Doesn't mean they couldn't win this one.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #113 on: October 14, 2015, 09:02:02 pm »
Bottom 6

Sipp on to pitch
Hosmer - strike, strike, slider low, grounds to first, Sipp covering.  1 out
Morales - ball, swinging strike, strike, curve grounds 6-3, 2 out
Moustakas - curve fly out to Springer in right.  3 outs

Astros chasing 2 runs 2-4

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« Reply #114 on: October 14, 2015, 09:03:08 pm »
Shit happens. They lost the last game. Doesn't mean they couldn't win this one.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #115 on: October 14, 2015, 09:03:24 pm »
Strong inning from T Sipp.

Just a bloop and a blast..
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« Reply #116 on: October 14, 2015, 09:04:14 pm »
Altuve is the story of this series. 0-20? One more AB.
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« Reply #117 on: October 14, 2015, 09:04:50 pm »
Any chance Missouri's governor could congratulate the Royals right now?


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« Reply #118 on: October 14, 2015, 09:05:51 pm »
Fuck. It's just their night.


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« Reply #119 on: October 14, 2015, 09:07:23 pm »
Fuck. It's just their night.


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« Reply #120 on: October 14, 2015, 09:08:57 pm »
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« Reply #121 on: October 14, 2015, 09:09:50 pm »
If the BBG exist at all then the FS1 commentary HAS to piss them off. Jesus....

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« Reply #122 on: October 14, 2015, 09:10:42 pm »
Top 7

Cueto still pitching

Correa - ball outside, off-speed strike,  flare caught by Zobrist with a leaping backwards grab
Rasmus - strike, strike swinging, ball outside, swinging at outside pitch.. down on strikes. 2 out
Gomez - ball, foul, strike swinging, outside, ball up and in, foul,  grounds out 5-3

2-4 Royals.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #123 on: October 14, 2015, 09:12:12 pm »
The Royals  ability to dink and dunk the ball and have them somehow fall in is amazing. They've hit one ball hard all night and it should've been a pretty easy catch for Springer.
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« Reply #124 on: October 14, 2015, 09:13:38 pm »

The Royals  ability to dink and dunk the ball and have them somehow fall in is amazing. They've hit one ball hard all night and it should've been a pretty easy catch for Springer.

Amazing what happens when you actually MAKE CONTACT WITH THE FUCKING BALL.


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« Reply #125 on: October 14, 2015, 09:14:09 pm »
Still two innings.
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« Reply #126 on: October 14, 2015, 09:14:12 pm »
If the BBG exist at all then the FS1 commentary HAS to piss them off. Jesus....
Fuck those guys

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« Reply #127 on: October 14, 2015, 09:14:17 pm »
Another inning for Sipp. Hinch really has nobody to trust.


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« Reply #128 on: October 14, 2015, 09:15:17 pm »
If the BBG exist at all then the FS1 commentary HAS to piss them off. Jesus....

Unfortunately the BBGs love the Royals and any sort of premature celebration by Royals fans is welcomed.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #129 on: October 14, 2015, 09:16:12 pm »
Another inning for Sipp. Hinch really has nobody to trust.


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #130 on: October 14, 2015, 09:16:46 pm »
He's saving Keuchel for Game 1 of the 2016 season.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #131 on: October 14, 2015, 09:17:26 pm »
This game reminds me so much of Game 7 of the 2004 NLCS.   Astros get off to an early 2-0 lead but fail to score again, give up half their lead in one inning, then 3 more runs in a middle inning, and lose in MIssouri.

I fully expect the Royals to get an insurance in the 8th to win even bigger.  Hell, the Astros never even got a hit in that game after 0 outs in the 4th, and brought in their best starter (Oswalt) in relief and he gave up insurance.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #132 on: October 14, 2015, 09:17:31 pm »

He's saving Keuchel for Game 1 of the 2016 season.

He's actually warming up.


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #133 on: October 14, 2015, 09:18:34 pm »
This game reminds me so much of Game 7 of the 2004 NLCS.   Astros get off to an early 2-0 lead but fail to score again, blow their load in the middle innings, and lose in MIssouri.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #134 on: October 14, 2015, 09:18:40 pm »
Neshek in.


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #135 on: October 14, 2015, 09:18:42 pm »
I wish this sipp has showed up Monday

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« Reply #136 on: October 14, 2015, 09:18:47 pm »
Amazing what happens when you actually MAKE CONTACT WITH THE FUCKING BALL.


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #137 on: October 14, 2015, 09:18:50 pm »
McHufh's inability to throw his curve is a big part of the story.

Altuve is the other. What a fold.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #138 on: October 14, 2015, 09:19:12 pm »

This game reminds me so much of Game 7 of the 2004 NLCS.   Astros get off to an early 2-0 lead but fail to score again, blow their load in the middle innings, and lose in MIssouri.

Fuck, why not make me relive middle school while you're at it?


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #139 on: October 14, 2015, 09:19:20 pm »
Cueto's pitching a very nice game, and the bounces are going KC's way.

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I wish this sipp has showed up Monday

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #141 on: October 14, 2015, 09:20:17 pm »
McHufh's inability to throw his curve is a big part of the story.


He seemed to totally lose confidence in his ability to spot it.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #142 on: October 14, 2015, 09:20:49 pm »
Keuchel warming up.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #143 on: October 14, 2015, 09:22:28 pm »
Good for Neshek.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #144 on: October 14, 2015, 09:22:43 pm »
Bottom 7

Sipp remains on the bump

Perez - strike, strike swinging, ball up and away, pop up, Carter takes it.  1 out
Gordon - check swing foul,  foul, slider in the dirt, got him swinging  2 out

Neshek in to face Rios

Rios - Strike, foul ripped to right, foul back, ball up and out, ball up, got him swinging to retire the side.

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« Reply #145 on: October 14, 2015, 09:22:45 pm »
"Houston running out of chances."

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #146 on: October 14, 2015, 09:23:46 pm »
Lets rock fucking bullshit cueto in the eigth.
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« Reply #147 on: October 14, 2015, 09:24:02 pm »
Where has that Neshek been?
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #148 on: October 14, 2015, 09:24:03 pm »
Then we wouldn't be here

Bullshit. You guys must not have watched the game.
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« Reply #149 on: October 14, 2015, 09:24:36 pm »
Yost isn't stupid enough to run Cueto out there again is he?

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« Reply #150 on: October 14, 2015, 09:24:52 pm »
Know what would've been nice in game 4? This version of Neshek.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #151 on: October 14, 2015, 09:25:00 pm »
Where has that Neshek been?

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« Reply #153 on: October 14, 2015, 09:25:29 pm »
Jason Stark just retweeted that Inside Edge (whatever that is) says in 20 postseason ABs, Altuve has zero hard hit balls.
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« Reply #154 on: October 14, 2015, 09:25:32 pm »
1 at a time.   Here we go.

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« Reply #155 on: October 14, 2015, 09:26:29 pm »
Gattis not impressive. Few hard hit balls.
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« Reply #156 on: October 14, 2015, 09:26:37 pm »
Bullshit. You guys must not have watched the game.
Yeah, Sipp was not the problem in Game 4. One liner just over the 5'5" 2Bman, and a DP ball that turned into a 2-run E6.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #157 on: October 14, 2015, 09:27:00 pm »
These are some truly pathetic ABs . Ugly hacks at everything

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #158 on: October 14, 2015, 09:27:29 pm »
Cueto is cruising now.

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Great ABs, gentlemen.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #160 on: October 14, 2015, 09:28:12 pm »
Top 8

Cueto still pitching having only thrown 86 pitches

Gattis - hacks at a pitch in his eyes and  fouls it pops the next pitch to 2nd.  1 out
Valbuena - ball, grounds to 2nd, 2 out
Carter grouns the first pitch to short. 

Another quick 1-2-3 inning for Cueto.   

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« Reply #161 on: October 14, 2015, 09:28:17 pm »
All I'm asking is just one runner. Just give me Correa in the 9th with a chance to tie.


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« Reply #162 on: October 14, 2015, 09:28:36 pm »
The simple story line of this game is that Cueto has dominated.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #163 on: October 14, 2015, 09:28:44 pm »
Fuck this Royals team. If they beat us, I hope the Blue Jays beat their dink and dunk asses in 4.
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« Reply #164 on: October 14, 2015, 09:28:58 pm »
Cueto is cruising now.

Praying for Wade Davis?

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« Reply #165 on: October 14, 2015, 09:29:44 pm »
Praying for Wade Davis?

It's almost come to that.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #166 on: October 14, 2015, 09:30:10 pm »
This lineup has been fucking embarrassing for the most part. Altuve, Springer, and Gattis especially have been fucking horrible this series. Our pitching staff has a few meltdowns to be embarrassed about, but the top of the lineup has been hot garbage.
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« Reply #167 on: October 14, 2015, 09:30:51 pm »
6 outs on 8 pitches. The poise of a young team.


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« Reply #168 on: October 14, 2015, 09:30:55 pm »
Fuck this Royals team. If they beat us, I hope the Blue Jays beat their dink and dunk asses in 4.

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I am so fucking sick of watching Evan Gattis at-bats. I'm sure he's a very nice guy, but I hope they trade him this winter.
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« Reply #170 on: October 14, 2015, 09:31:32 pm »
Keuchel in.


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« Reply #171 on: October 14, 2015, 09:31:48 pm »
And immediately surrenders a double.


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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #172 on: October 14, 2015, 09:32:18 pm »
Bullshit. You guys must not have watched the game.

Nobody watches the games but you, dude. We rely on you for all our information. Which is convenient because no one else understands the game like you do, either. For example, I always thought there were nine guys batting in a lineup rather than one five foot Venezuelan.
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« Reply #173 on: October 14, 2015, 09:32:23 pm »
It is wrong to pitch Keuchel here. Boo.
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« Reply #174 on: October 14, 2015, 09:32:27 pm »
This is also an example of why winning the division is important. That's the reason Keuchel started once rather than twice in this series.

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« Reply #175 on: October 14, 2015, 09:32:41 pm »
And immediately surrenders a double.


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« Reply #176 on: October 14, 2015, 09:33:23 pm »

It is wrong to pitch Keuchel here. Boo.

@JeffPassan: First question for A.J. Hinch: If Dallas Keuchel was going to pitch tonight, why not bring him in during fifth-inning jam instead of Fiers?


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« Reply #177 on: October 14, 2015, 09:33:26 pm »
It is wrong to pitch Keuchel here. Boo.
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« Reply #178 on: October 14, 2015, 09:33:37 pm »
It is wrong to pitch Keuchel here. Boo.

I don't see the point of it.

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« Reply #179 on: October 14, 2015, 09:33:51 pm »
I am so fucking sick of watching Evan Gattis at-bats. I'm sure he's a very nice guy, but I hope they trade him this winter.

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« Reply #180 on: October 14, 2015, 09:34:41 pm »

Nobody watches the games but you, dude. We rely on you for all our information. Which is convenient because no one else understands the game like you do, either. For example, I always thought there were nine guys batting in a lineup rather than one five foot Venezuelan.

Dude, we e got a whole offseason for sniping. Spare it for tonight.


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« Reply #181 on: October 14, 2015, 09:35:46 pm »
Nobody watches the games but you, dude. We rely on you for all our information. Which is convenient because no one else understands the game like you do, either. For example, I always thought there were nine guys batting in a lineup rather than one five foot Venezuelan.

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« Reply #182 on: October 14, 2015, 09:35:53 pm »

He was signed because he has a few more years at a low salary. He'll be back.

He wasn't signed.  The team traded for him.  But your weak ass thesis that he's here because of his "low salary" must be spot on.


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« Reply #183 on: October 14, 2015, 09:35:59 pm »
Nobody watches the games but you, dude. We rely on you for all our information. Which is convenient because no one else understands the game like you do, either. For example, I always thought there were nine guys batting in a lineup rather than one five foot Venezuelan.

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« Reply #184 on: October 14, 2015, 09:36:33 pm »
I don't see the point of it.

The only guess I have (and if they were going to use him then use him before Fiers) is that maybe Hinch is trying to inspire his troops before the 9th?....

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« Reply #185 on: October 14, 2015, 09:37:31 pm »
Where the fuck was the 0-2 pitch?
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« Reply #186 on: October 14, 2015, 09:38:24 pm »
Where the fuck was the 0-2 pitch?

Not from a Royals hand.
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« Reply #187 on: October 14, 2015, 09:38:37 pm »
Where the fuck was the 0-2 pitch?

Ump yelled "low". I disagree.

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« Reply #188 on: October 14, 2015, 09:39:05 pm »
The only guess I have (and if they were going to use him then use him before Fiers) is that maybe Hinch is trying to inspire his troops before the 9th?....

It feels like the bullpen use this game is reactionary -- a response to public criticism -- after two months of shaky relief outings. The quick hook on McHugh feels that way, as does bringing in Keuchel down by two runs.

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« Reply #189 on: October 14, 2015, 09:40:56 pm »
Oh, fuck, I can see it now: Lowrie pinch-hits for Castro, reaches base, somebody homers to tie the game. And then in the bottom of the 9th, somebody reaches base, they pinch-run Dyson, he immediately steals 2nd and 3rd on Conger, and then scores on a passed ball.
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« Reply #190 on: October 14, 2015, 09:41:05 pm »
Hey Neil, calm down.

Wasn't me. Thought it though.
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« Reply #191 on: October 14, 2015, 09:41:26 pm »
It feels like the bullpen use this game is reactionary -- a response to public criticism -- after two months of shaky relief outings. The quick hook on McHugh feels that way, as does bringing in Keuchel down by two runs.

I disagree on McHugh. He wasn't sharp and looked in trouble.
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« Reply #192 on: October 14, 2015, 09:41:59 pm »
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Goddamnit, AJ. Dallas is the last guy that deserved this.


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« Reply #194 on: October 14, 2015, 09:42:22 pm »
Oh, fuck, I can see it now: Lowrie pinch-hits for Castro, reaches base, somebody homers to tie the game. And then in the bottom of the 9th, somebody reaches base, they pinch-run Dyson, he immediately steals 2nd and 3rd on Conger, and then scores on a passed ball.

Not gonna be an issue.

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the real reason Keuchel shouldn't have pitched here.
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Another bullpen failure.
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« Reply #197 on: October 14, 2015, 09:42:45 pm »
Fun season. 2016 should be even better.

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Oh, fuck, I can see it now: Lowrie pinch-hits for Castro, reaches base, somebody homers to tie the game. And then in the bottom of the 9th, somebody reaches base, they pinch-run Dyson, he immediately steals 2nd and 3rd on Conger, and then scores on a passed ball.

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« Reply #199 on: October 14, 2015, 09:43:29 pm »
It feels like the bullpen use this game is reactionary -- a response to public criticism -- after two months of shaky relief outings. The quick hook on McHugh feels that way, as does bringing in Keuchel down by two runs.

Yes. Bullpen calls have been odd. (Qualls?!) just trying to find a silver lining. Never mind.

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« Reply #200 on: October 14, 2015, 09:44:44 pm »
Bottom 8

Keuchel pitching

Escober gets a bat on it and it squirts into the RF corner.  He's standing on 2nd.
Zobrist - ball, ball, lined to Altuve who ends up on his back but makes the play.  1 out
Cain gets the IBB
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Morales - foul, foul, ball outside, curve called a ball, Home RUN

7-2 Royals.   Game over.

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« Reply #201 on: October 14, 2015, 09:44:54 pm »
I disagree on McHugh. He wasn't sharp and looked in trouble.

McHugh was on a razor's edge for at least his last two innings. Too many hitters counts, the walks, no curve, it was going to catch up to him. I have no problem pulling him then.

This is why I didn't want Keuchel out there on short rest. I really didn't want his last outing of the year to look like this. I would have much rather gone through the off-season with his last start being that capstone of the season.
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« Reply #202 on: October 14, 2015, 09:45:12 pm »
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« Reply #203 on: October 14, 2015, 09:45:27 pm »
Morales hit a good pitch.
He breezed him, one more time!

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« Reply #204 on: October 14, 2015, 09:45:46 pm »
I don't think I've ever head a national broadcaster cheer for one side the way Matt Vasgersian did when Morales hit that home run.

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« Reply #205 on: October 14, 2015, 09:46:22 pm »
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« Reply #206 on: October 14, 2015, 09:46:43 pm »
Fuck it. Astros have scored 5 in an inning before.

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« Reply #207 on: October 14, 2015, 09:47:12 pm »
I don't think I've ever head a national broadcaster cheer for one side the way Matt Vasgersian did when Morales hit that home run.

Smoltz is the only one in that booth that is remotely professional.


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McHugh was on a razor's edge for at least his last two innings. Too many hitters counts, the walks, no curve, it was going to catch up to him. I have no problem pulling him then.

This is why I didn't want Keuchel out there on short rest. I really didn't want his last outing of the year to look like this. I would have much rather gone through the off-season with his last start being that capstone of the season.

And if he has a rocky start to next season, the armchair psychiatrists will diagnose Keuchel as being shellshocked by Morales.

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« Reply #209 on: October 14, 2015, 09:47:51 pm »
I don't think I've ever head a national broadcaster cheer for one side the way Matt Vasgersian did when Morales hit that home run.

He's pulling for a story.  Morales gave him one.
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« Reply #210 on: October 14, 2015, 09:47:59 pm »
Fun season. 2016 should be even better.

Agree.  Look forward to seeing Reed and White add to this offense. 

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Wasn't me. Thought it though.

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My wife is happy she doesn't have to pay up on her promise...

My wife has been reading the GameZone all game after being thoroughly entertained by the show you guys put on during Game 4.

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I don't think I've ever head a national broadcaster cheer for one side the way Matt Vasgersian did when Morales hit that home run.

I typically don't let shit like that get to me but that got to me.
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« Reply #214 on: October 14, 2015, 09:48:45 pm »
Keuchel pitching the 6th OT 7th with a lead, yes. Not in a mop up role. He deserves better respect.

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And if he has a rocky start to next season, the armchair psychiatrists will diagnose Keuchel as being shellshocked by Morales.

Clearly will be a trust issue.

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This is why I didn't want Keuchel out there on short rest. I really didn't want his last outing of the year to look like this. I would have much rather gone through the off-season with his last start being that capstone of the season.

If a season doesn't end with hardware, I have no problem with something gnawing at him to motivate him to continue to improve in the offseason.


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But has Altuve been terrible
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« Reply #218 on: October 14, 2015, 09:50:51 pm »
Keuchel pitching the 6th OT 7th with a lead, yes. Not in a mop up role. He deserves better respect.

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Sorry, I thought altuve was pitching.
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« Reply #219 on: October 14, 2015, 09:50:52 pm »
Altuve!
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« Reply #220 on: October 14, 2015, 09:51:32 pm »
Top 9 - Last chance..

Davis pitching to Tucker

Tucker - ball, ball, strike, strike swinging, down swinging 1 out
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« Reply #221 on: October 14, 2015, 09:51:49 pm »
Alright, someone's got to say it:

Altuve in this series really came up short.


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« Reply #222 on: October 14, 2015, 09:51:57 pm »
My wife is happy she doesn't have to pay up on her promise...

Same situation 1,346 miles away. (Assuming you're in Houston)
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« Reply #223 on: October 14, 2015, 09:52:16 pm »
Fitting end.  Otherwise, it was a great season and only portends well for 2016


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« Reply #224 on: October 14, 2015, 09:52:48 pm »
Same situation 1,346 miles away. (Assuming you're in Houston)

No, I'm in Iowa.   FTC, Twins, Sox, Cardinals KC territory.

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What a great Season.  Only one team will be happy in the end.  I love this team.

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« Reply #227 on: October 14, 2015, 09:53:22 pm »
This Astros team makes me proud. I love Altuve. Fuck anyone who looks to blame this on any one player. It was a team failure and Hinch made some questionable calls and takes some blame too.

Hell, Biggio and Bagwell sucked in post season too. It's a hard game to play well.
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If you don't get that, I won't waste any time trying to explain it.

Too deep for me.
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I love the Astros.  This piss ant team, that wasn't expected to be here, took the defending AL champs to the wall and made them rely on every bit of luck they have to win.
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« Reply #230 on: October 14, 2015, 09:54:11 pm »
Alright, someone's got to say it:

Altuve in this series really came up short.


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This Astros team makes me proud. I love Altuve. Fuck anyone who looks to blame this on any one player. It was a team failure and Hinch made some questionable calls and takes some blame too.

Hell, Biggio and Bagwell sucked in post season too. It's a hard game to play well.

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« Reply #232 on: October 14, 2015, 09:55:11 pm »
@McMurphyESPN: Since Texas @GovAbbott’s premature congrats tweet, Astros & Rangers outscored 28-9 & lost all 4 games in ALDS


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« Reply #233 on: October 14, 2015, 09:55:35 pm »
At the trade deadline, with our bullpen of Neshek and Sipp and Harris and Gregerson doing well, I was a little surprised to hear we were so aggressive in pursuing a closer. It ended up costing us the division title and probably the ALDS. Will be interesting to watch this post season.
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« Reply #235 on: October 14, 2015, 09:57:01 pm »
Hey, Sphinx! He got 200 hits! Fuck the playoffs. Swing at everything.
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Are you seriously whitewashing a guy that went 0fer?
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« Reply #237 on: October 14, 2015, 09:58:33 pm »
Are you seriously whitewashing a guy that went 0fer?

I think he's saying that the 'stros wouldn't have been here without Altuve, and that Altuve collapsed but pinning the last two losses on that collapse is stupid.
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« Reply #238 on: October 14, 2015, 09:58:47 pm »
There's no such thing as momentum and we lost today because of Cueto. But we blew it Monday.
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Do you know what it took to get there?

There being his NO hits in the playoffs? What a stud!
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« Reply #240 on: October 14, 2015, 09:59:48 pm »
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Hey, Sphinx! He got 200 hits! Fuck the playoffs. Swing at everything.
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There being his NO hits in the playoffs? What a stud!
Altuve had 3 hits in Game 1. Was he way too aggressive and unselective in Games 2-5? Yes. Was he worse than Gattis, the guy whose only job is to hit? Not really.
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« Reply #243 on: October 14, 2015, 10:02:35 pm »
I don't get how you can be so irrational.

Why is it irrational to expect the best hitter this season to not be terrible in the playoffs?
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« Reply #244 on: October 14, 2015, 10:02:44 pm »
Hey, Sphinx! He got 200 hits! Fuck the playoffs. Swing at everything.

Jim, give it a break. People are laughing at you.
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« Reply #245 on: October 14, 2015, 10:03:09 pm »
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« Reply #246 on: October 14, 2015, 10:03:58 pm »
Altuve had 3 hits in Game 1. Was he way too aggressive and unselective in Games 2-5? Yes. Was he worse than Gattis, the guy whose only job is to hit? Not really.

No, it was. If Altuve had been on base a few times this postseason, Springer and Correa see better pitches to hit.
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« Reply #247 on: October 14, 2015, 10:04:18 pm »
I don't get how you can be so irrational.

The playoffs are a new season with way more pressure. He has never been there before. He caved. His inability to get on base is a huge reason for this. 0 for 20what?
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« Reply #248 on: October 14, 2015, 10:04:25 pm »
There being his NO hits in the playoffs? What a stud!

Altuve struggled but I think the bullpen and Hinch's management of it was a far bigger problem.
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« Reply #249 on: October 14, 2015, 10:05:05 pm »
We ought to remember that Bagwell and Biggio both had awful postseasons.

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« Reply #250 on: October 14, 2015, 10:05:08 pm »
Why is it irrational to expect the best hitter this season to not be terrible in the playoffs?

It's not. It's irrational to blame the playoff losses on a single player. The bullpen failures were the story of the last two games, not Altuve.
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« Reply #251 on: October 14, 2015, 10:06:52 pm »
It's not. It's irrational to blame the playoff losses on a single player. The bullpen failures were the story of the last two games, not Altuve.

And Game 2, when we also blew a lead (as we did in all three KC wins).
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« Reply #252 on: October 14, 2015, 10:09:18 pm »
It's irrational that the same person that cried and whined at the slightest criticism of Gomez obsesses over Altuve's poor performance over the last few games.
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« Reply #253 on: October 14, 2015, 10:09:33 pm »
It's not. It's irrational to blame the playoff losses on a single player. The bullpen failures were the story of the last two games, not Altuve.

How many hits did Alruve get in games 2-5? If he was getting on base, how many more runs would we have scored?

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« Reply #254 on: October 14, 2015, 10:09:56 pm »
No, it was. If Altuve had been on base a few times this postseason, Springer and Correa see better pitches to hit.
And if Gattis had done anything other than continue to swing and miss at any pitch within 2 feet of the zone, Rasmus might not have been walked so much in key situations.

I get it. I'm disappointed in Altuve too - he was awful. I just see it as one of many reasons the Astros lost the series.
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« Reply #255 on: October 14, 2015, 10:10:31 pm »
It's not. It's irrational to blame the playoff losses on a single player. The bullpen failures were the story of the last two games, not Altuve.

I'm not only blaming Altuve, but I'm not only blaming the bullpen like most people. Altuve's terrible series isv just as much to blame as anyone else on this team.
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« Reply #256 on: October 14, 2015, 10:11:21 pm »
Why is it irrational to expect the best hitter this season to not be terrible in the playoffs?
Because it's a hard game to play well and sometimes even the best are stymied. I'm bummed out they lost but I'm not disappointed, my expectations were exceeded a while back. Or maybe I'm just rationalizing.
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« Reply #257 on: October 14, 2015, 10:12:58 pm »
So just keep in mind how many other teams weren't even playing anymore.   AL West had 2 teams in the playoffs.   We can bitch about why they aren't still playing but I've been happy to be a fan of this team this year.

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« Reply #258 on: October 14, 2015, 10:13:12 pm »

I'm not only blaming Altuve, but I'm not only blaming the bullpen like most people. Altuve's terrible series isv just as much to blame as anyone else on this team.

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« Reply #259 on: October 14, 2015, 10:14:05 pm »
How many hits did Alruve get in games 2-5? If he was getting on base, how many more runs would we have scored?

You've got a hard on for Altuve. It's weird. The Astros scored runs. He could have helped score more runs. But what we saw in this series is that if you're not going to score a ton of runs, your bullpen pitching better be perfect. More than good, more than lucky, perfect.
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« Reply #260 on: October 14, 2015, 10:14:26 pm »
So is Missouri the center of the baseball world now?   Screw the east coast.

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« Reply #261 on: October 14, 2015, 10:16:08 pm »
It's irrational that the same person that cried and whined at the slightest criticism of Gomez obsesses over Altuve's poor performance over the last few games.

The most important games of the year and he is 0 for the last four games.

Blame the bullpen and excuse Mr. 200 hits
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« Reply #262 on: October 14, 2015, 10:20:38 pm »
You've got a hard on for Altuve. It's weird. The Astros scored runs. He could have helped score more runs. But what we saw in this series is that if you're not going to score a ton of runs, your bullpen pitching better be perfect. More than good, more than lucky, perfect.

Perfect ain't happening, Goofy. Altuve is a selfish player who cares only about his hits.  His ofer four games and bullpen failures and KC's luck sent us home.
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« Reply #263 on: October 14, 2015, 10:21:42 pm »
Well, I think we can all agree that Rasmus had a pretty damn good series and gets none of the blame... or does he? Hell. I don't know much I guess.
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Perfect ain't happening, Goofy. Altuve is a selfish player who cares only about his hits.  His ofer four games and bullpen failures and KC's luck sent us home.

That's just weird.
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That's just weird.

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Altuve is a selfish player who cares only about his hits.

You would crucify anyone else on this board if they made a comment like this.
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Cannot understand it for you.

I understand your conclusion. But your hard on for Altuve is weird.
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« Reply #268 on: October 14, 2015, 10:26:02 pm »
Altuve is a selfish player who cares only about his hits.
Interesting. Is this your opinion or did you get this from something Altuve said?
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« Reply #269 on: October 14, 2015, 10:26:24 pm »
It was brutal for Altuve to be not even a slight factor in this series games 2-5. The bullpen also had tough luck and occasionally sucked balls. There were shitty AB's by Gattis. Reactionary decisions by Hinch. Plenty of other blame to go around. It's gunna sting for a few months. Then we'll hear about some moves Luhnow is considering and we'll all start to get excited again. Before you know it we'll be watching a better team take the field and that team will have learned some fucking shit from these last two weeks.
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« Reply #270 on: October 14, 2015, 10:28:05 pm »
Interesting. Is this your opinion or did you get this from something Altuve said?

I watch him play. He does not try to get on base when we need base runners. He swings at everything.
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I watch him play. He does not try to get on base when we need base runners. He swings at everything.

And hits a ton. That's the way some players play, and Hinch clearly is going for swing wild, swing free. Did you say this shit about Bagwell? He was just as bad in the post season.
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I watch him play. He does not try to get on base when we need base runners. He swings at everything.

I get that he has poor plate discipline and there are areas that he has a lot of room for improvement. I get that he had a bad series. I just don't understand how that translates to him not caring about anything but his hits, to not caring about his team, to not caring about winning. I do think he cares about his hits but also likes to score runs, steal bases, and win.
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I did not say he does not care about his team. I said he cares about his hits, and disregards what his team needs.
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« Reply #275 on: October 14, 2015, 10:45:29 pm »
I did not say he does not care about his team. I said he cares about his hits, and disregards what his team needs.

Which step in the 12 step is this?  Altuve was not the blame for this loss, Altuve could have contributed to a win, but your obsession with Altuve is bizarre. 
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« Reply #276 on: October 14, 2015, 10:47:28 pm »
Altuve was the one guy on this team who was talking postseason back in March. He is probably crushed by his shitty performance. Maybe blames himself as well. And it was shitty, a good team can overcome a shitty performance by one player, maybe the Astros aren't that good yet. I think they overachieved.
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« Reply #277 on: October 14, 2015, 10:50:10 pm »
Neil, leave me alone. Organize your class action against hard sliders, and enjoy your windfall.

Altuve let this team down, big time. 0 for his last four games. You are going to blame Harris? Altuve is an automatic out like Carter? Yes, more.
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« Reply #278 on: October 14, 2015, 10:52:49 pm »
And Jim and Neil, much respect to you both. But  y'all's, whatever it is, was amusing for a while, now it's become a bit disconcerting. Maybe it's time to move it to PMs.
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And Jim and Neil, much respect to you both. But  y'all's, whatever it is, was amusing for a while, now it's become a bit disconcerting. Maybe it's time to move it to PMs.

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« Reply #280 on: October 14, 2015, 10:55:04 pm »
Neil, leave me alone. Organize your class action against hard sliders, and enjoy your windfall.

Altuve let this team down, big time. 0 for his last four games. You are going to blame Harris? Altuve is an automatic out like Carter? Yes, more.

Just bizarre. Of course Altuve let his team down. Every fucking batter tonight except Gattis and Valbuena let their team down. Harris let his team down, and I don't blame Harris. You're the one who decided Altuve was the story of this post season because of his selfishness. You're better than that.
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« Reply #281 on: October 14, 2015, 11:07:34 pm »
And Jim and Neil, much respect to you both. But  y'all's, whatever it is, was amusing for a while, now it's become a bit disconcerting. Maybe it's time to move it to PMs.

Naw.  It's time to be done.
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« Reply #282 on: October 14, 2015, 11:19:47 pm »
The story of this post season is Altuve and the bullpen and Hinch's pitching decisions. We won two, let two get away, and lost this one tonight.

If Altuve is a superstar, he must come up big in big games. He was 0 for games 2-5.
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« Reply #283 on: October 14, 2015, 11:27:29 pm »
Altuve, Gattis and the bullpen all had a rough series. On the flip side of the coin, the Royals are a pretty good team, as indicated by winning the pennant last year and having the league's best record this year. Their hitters top to bottom work the count and adjust their approach better than any team in baseball. And Johnny Cueto pitched the game of his life tonight. The Astros could have pulled it out, but didn't. They lost to a really good team. They got further than anyone thought possible. And it won't be another 10 years until they make the playoffs again. I'm feeling about as good after a playoff defeat as I can.

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« Reply #285 on: October 14, 2015, 11:38:13 pm »
This team will be good for a decade if they stay together.

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This team will be good for a decade if they stay together.

This is the first year my 8-year-old has followed the team passionately. He was crying after the game. I explained to him that the Astros made the playoffs the first time when I was eight years old, losing a five-game series they could've won. Then they didn't do it again until I was 14, then not again until I was 25, and they didn't win a playoff series until I was 32. I told him I don't think he'll have to wait as long to see them in the playoffs again, and that I'll be there watching every game with him. The next question out of his mouth was, "How long is it until Opening Day?"

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This is the first year my 8-year-old has followed the team passionately. He was crying after the game. I explained to him that the Astros made the playoffs the first time when I was eight years old, losing a five-game series they could've won. Then they didn't do it again until I was 14, then not again until I was 25, and they didn't win a playoff series until I was 32. I told him I don't think he'll have to wait as long to see them in the playoffs again, and that I'll be there watching every game with him. The next question out of his mouth was, "How long is it until Opening Day?"
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This is the first year my 8-year-old has followed the team passionately. He was crying after the game. I explained to him that the Astros made the playoffs the first time when I was eight years old, losing a five-game series they could've won. Then they didn't do it again until I was 14, then not again until I was 25, and they didn't win a playoff series until I was 32. I told him I don't think he'll have to wait as long to see them in the playoffs again, and that I'll be there watching every game with him. The next question out of his mouth was, "How long is it until Opening Day?"

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« Reply #289 on: October 15, 2015, 12:59:49 am »
In the end, the Astros won two games, lost two games, and the Royals won one game. I'll take that as a decent showing for this young crew.

Royals - Blue Jays will be an entertaining series. I'll be watching for sure.

Oh by the way... The Rangers blew a 2-0 ALDS lead. Fuck them.

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This message is from the former Sambito, in the older days of OrangeWhoopass.

I moved to Kansas City two years ago from Michigan, and the current season and result this evening reminds me of an old wound.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #293 on: October 15, 2015, 06:56:39 am »
This team will be good for a decade if they stay together.

My expectations are that they will look drastically different in two years and they will still be better.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #294 on: October 15, 2015, 09:42:51 am »
Altuve, Gattis and the bullpen all had a rough series. On the flip side of the coin, the Royals are a pretty good team, as indicated by winning the pennant last year and having the league's best record this year. Their hitters top to bottom work the count and adjust their approach better than any team in baseball. And Johnny Cueto pitched the game of his life tonight. The Astros could have pulled it out, but didn't. They lost to a really good team. They got further than anyone thought possible. And it won't be another 10 years until they make the playoffs again. I'm feeling about as good after a playoff defeat as I can.

Me too. I also hope they learned something from the Royals hitters. What an exhausting, infuriating bunch for pitchers without consistent hard swing-and-miss stuff to face. Can we do that someday?

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« Reply #295 on: October 15, 2015, 10:14:03 am »
I'm so glad I wasn't on the board last night, what I little I've read this morning was full of a bunch of crap. 

I know all the players on that team tried, some had success and some didn't.  They all contributed to the wins and they all contributed to the losses.  To try and blame one player over another is WRONG.  They have said all season they are a team and we should respect them for that.  They are my Astros and I won't throw one part of it under a bus.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #296 on: October 15, 2015, 10:44:26 am »
I'm so glad I wasn't on the board last night, what I little I've read this morning was full of a bunch of crap. 

I know all the players on that team tried, some had success and some didn't.  They all contributed to the wins and they all contributed to the losses.  To try and blame one player over another is WRONG.  They have said all season they are a team and we should respect them for that.  They are my Astros and I won't throw one part of it under a bus.

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no one, including me, blamed one player for losing the series. I actually do not believe the Astros lost it as much as KC won it with outstanding ABs. there were failures, including huge ones, perhaps in part because they never had been under that kind of pressure before. All will be better next year because of the experience. Star players need to play like stars on the big stage. one of ours did not.

ETA: Gil Hodges, one of the greatest players ever, had a World Series quite similar to Altuve's ALDS. Shit happens and does not diminish the player's greatness.
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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #297 on: October 15, 2015, 10:57:40 am »
no one, including me, blamed one player for losing the series. I actually do not believe the Astros lost it as much as KC won it with outstanding ABs. there were failures, including huge ones, perhaps in part they never had been under that kind of pressure before. All will be better next year because of the experience. Star players need to play like stars on the big stage. one of ours did not.

I think that can't be overstated about the experience gained from playing this series.  It was the first playoff experience for many on the team, and it'll make them better next time.

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« Reply #298 on: October 15, 2015, 11:05:02 am »
I'm so glad I wasn't on the board last night, what I little I've read this morning was full of a bunch of crap. 

I know all the players on that team tried, some had success and some didn't.  They all contributed to the wins and they all contributed to the losses.  To try and blame one player over another is WRONG.  They have said all season they are a team and we should respect them for that.  They are my Astros and I won't throw one part of it under a bus.

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I'm sure a lot of what was said last night was just purely out of frustration.  Especially after what happened to Game 4. 

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« Reply #299 on: October 15, 2015, 11:23:39 am »
I'm sure a lot of what was said last night was just purely out of frustration.  Especially after what happened to Game 4.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #300 on: October 15, 2015, 11:37:48 am »
I think that can't be overstated about the experience gained from playing this series.  It was the first playoff experience for many on the team, and it'll make them better next time.

I sat and stared at the tv after the game, unable to function normally, and watched post-game stuff on MLB network. A couple of Royals players were asked if being in the playoffs last year made it easier this year and they agreed it did. They also were quick to give credit to the little Astros and one (Hosmer or Moose tacos) said they are a great team and will be around for a while. I thought the KC players and Yost were very classy.

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Re: ALDS Game 5: Astros @ Royals, October 14, 2015
« Reply #301 on: October 15, 2015, 11:45:37 am »
I have no problem with the Royals, and a lot of respect for the way they battled their asses off in every at bat.  I'd rather see them win than any of the remaining teams.
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« Reply #302 on: October 15, 2015, 11:48:04 am »
I have no problem with the Royals, and a lot of respect for the way they battled their asses off in every at bat.  I'd rather see them win than any of the remaining teams.

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« Reply #303 on: October 15, 2015, 11:57:20 am »
I have no problem with the Royals, and a lot of respect for the way they battled their asses off in every at bat.  I'd rather see them win than any of the remaining teams.

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« Reply #304 on: October 15, 2015, 12:10:03 pm »
I was a little angry in the heat of the moment last night, but I agree the Royals seem like a decent bunch.
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« Reply #305 on: October 15, 2015, 12:46:48 pm »
Whatever is said in the GZ is not to be taken as reasoned commentary.

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« Reply #306 on: October 15, 2015, 12:47:43 pm »
I was a little angry in the heat of the moment last night, but I agree the Royals seem like a decent bunch.

I was angry, but not at the Royals. I do not think we had a baserunner after the home run.
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« Reply #307 on: October 15, 2015, 12:48:10 pm »
I sat and stared at the tv after the game, unable to function normally, and watched post-game stuff on MLB network. A couple of Royals players were asked if being in the playoffs last year made it easier this year and they agreed it did. They also were quick to give credit to the little Astros and one (Hosmer or Moose tacos) said they are a great team and will be around for a while. I thought the KC players and Yost were very classy.

They are a classy bunch.  It's hard not to root for them. 

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« Reply #308 on: October 15, 2015, 12:51:23 pm »
I was angry, but not at the Royals. I do not think we had a baserunner after the home run.

Do you think Luhnow's philosophy of his offense will change at all during the off-season?  The homeruns are great, and they are a huge reason the Astros got this far, but there are times where they are completely shut down.  A team like KC, for example, seems to be battling every at bat, and good things seem to happen. 

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« Reply #309 on: October 15, 2015, 01:00:41 pm »
Do you think Luhnow's philosophy of his offense will change at all during the off-season?  The homeruns are great, and they are a huge reason the Astros got this far, but there are times where they are completely shut down.  A team like KC, for example, seems to be battling every at bat, and good things seem to happen.

My question as well.  Is the second half of the lineup how the Astros are always going to be (well he's got holes in his swing,  but he's got some pop),  or were some of these guys the best we can do for now?  Are Springer and Correa going to be taught selectivity or told to mash at all costs?

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« Reply #310 on: October 15, 2015, 01:03:02 pm »
My question as well.  Is the second half of the lineup how the Astros are always going to be (well he's got holes in his swing,  but he's got some pop),  or were some of these guys the best we can do for now?  Are Springer and Correa going to be taught selectivity or told to mash at all costs?


I think Springer and Correa do fine now. Springer seems very selective/disciplined.

there are others who need a lesson in Royals' patience.
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« Reply #311 on: October 15, 2015, 01:28:01 pm »
Do you think Luhnow's philosophy of his offense will change at all during the off-season?  The homeruns are great, and they are a huge reason the Astros got this far, but there are times where they are completely shut down.  A team like KC, for example, seems to be battling every at bat, and good things seem to happen.
Based on who I have seen drafted, and developed by him, I honestly don't think this is really his philosophy.  Instead, I suspect it is more a result of who he could get through trade or free agency, and who would also fit within his budget.  We will know soon enough.

I also make a distinction between those who have no discipline and likely never will (Altuve and Gattis), those who have discipline but swing and miss a lot because they lack solid contact skills or have a hole (Valbuena, Rasmus, Carter and possibly Castro) and those who have good discipline, have good contact skills, but swing out of their shoes too often (Gomez and Springer).

Although Altuve is here to stay, I'd be surprised if there wasn't some movement of players within the first two groups. 


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« Reply #312 on: October 15, 2015, 02:03:28 pm »
Based on who I have seen drafted, and developed by him, I honestly don't think this is really his philosophy.  Instead, I suspect it is more a result of who he could get through trade or free agency, and who would also fit within his budget.  We will know soon enough.

I also make a distinction between those who have no discipline and likely never will (Altuve and Gattis), those who have discipline but swing and miss a lot because they lack solid contact skills or have a hole (Valbuena, Rasmus, Carter and possibly Castro) and those who have good discipline, have good contact skills, but swing out of their shoes too often (Gomez and Springer).

Although Altuve is here to stay, I'd be surprised if there wasn't some movement of players within the first two groups.

This is almost exactly what I would have written. The closest way to reading Luhnow's mind is to look at the players coming into the organization through the draft.


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« Reply #313 on: October 15, 2015, 02:58:35 pm »
there are others who need a lesson in Royals' patience.


They need to spend some time on shortening up to make contact on 2-strikes.  The Royals bleeped and blooped us to death during the series, but they did so because they made contact - often when down 2 strikes - whereas the Astros made whooshing noises.

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« Reply #314 on: October 15, 2015, 03:42:20 pm »

They need to spend some time on shortening up to make contact on 2-strikes.  The Royals bleeped and blooped us to death during the series, but they did so because they made contact - often when down 2 strikes - whereas the Astros made whooshing noises.


To me, this was the biggest difference in approach between the two teams. Protecting the plate with 2 strikes. How many Royals' at-bats did we see 9, 10, 12 or more pitches? It was frustrating but impressive at the same time.
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« Reply #315 on: October 15, 2015, 04:00:25 pm »
To me, this was the biggest difference in approach between the two teams. Protecting the plate with 2 strikes. How many Royals' at-bats did we see 9, 10, 12 or more pitches? It was frustrating but impressive at the same time.
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« Reply #316 on: October 15, 2015, 04:06:32 pm »
To me, this was the biggest difference in approach between the two teams. Protecting the plate with 2 strikes. How many Royals' at-bats did we see 9, 10, 12 or more pitches? It was frustrating but impressive at the same time.

yes, it was. their ABs were unreal.
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« Reply #317 on: October 15, 2015, 04:19:56 pm »
yes, it was. their ABs were unreal.

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« Reply #318 on: October 15, 2015, 04:22:11 pm »
yes, it was. their ABs were unreal.

another reason for some hard-throwers in the pen. I wonder if Velasquez and/or Feliz will be tried out in the pen next year.

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« Reply #319 on: October 15, 2015, 04:30:27 pm »
another reason for some hard-throwers in the pen. I wonder if Velasquez and/or Feliz will be tried out in the pen next year.

Gustave throws upper 90's and had better control this season.  I expect to see Feliz there as well but not Velasquez.
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« Reply #320 on: October 15, 2015, 05:02:29 pm »
another reason for some hard-throwers in the pen. I wonder if Velasquez and/or Feliz will be tried out in the pen next year.
I feel like Velasquez can be a good starter and should only go to the pen if A) he fails as a starter or B) he's going to the pen for the playoffs

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« Reply #322 on: October 15, 2015, 07:04:08 pm »
Gustave throws upper 90's and had better control this season.  I expect to see Feliz there as well but not Velasquez.

If they like Gustave they will need to add to the 40 man. Surely he'll get picked again and maybe stick this time.