Author Topic: Astros @ Yankmees August 25, 2015 (Read 17326 times)

Mr. Happy · « **on:** August 25, 2015, 03:29:51 pm »

Your lineups for tonight's tilt:

Astros

2BJose Altuve (R)
3BJed Lowrie (S)
SSCarlos Correa (R)
RFColby Rasmus (L)
DHEvan Gattis (R)
CFCarlos Gomez (R)
1BLuis Valbuena (L)
LFMarwin Gonzalez (S)
CJason Castro (L)

HOU: Dallas Keuchel (L) (14-6, 2.37)

Yankmees

CF Jacoby Ellsbury (L)
LF Chris Young (R)
DH Alex Rodriguez (R)
1B Mark Teixeira (S)
RF Carlos Beltran (S)
3B Chase Headley (S)
C J. Murphy (R)
SS Didi Gregorius (L)
2B Brendan Ryan (R)

NYY: Ivan Nova (R) (5-5, 3.72)

hostros7 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 25, 2015, 03:50:53 pm »

Nice to see Lowrie back in the lineup instead of back on the DL.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #2 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:21:44 pm »

Astros plate two in the first frame, and they're still hitting.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #3 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:23:06 pm »

Gomez stayed on that pitch nicely instead of swinging out of his heels. Good job of hitting.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #4 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:24:06 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 25, 2015, 06:23:06 pm

Gomez stayed on that pitch nicely instead of swinging out of his heels. Good job of hitting.

Smoltz took a couple of jabs at Gomez for styling.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #5 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:25:11 pm »

Quote from: Mr. Happy on August 25, 2015, 06:24:06 pm

Smoltz took a couple of jabs at Gomez for styling.

Yeah, you know how I feel about his on-field behavior.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #6 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:25:23 pm »

Quote from: Mr. Happy on August 25, 2015, 06:24:06 pm

Smoltz took a couple of jabs at Gomez for styling.

I bet no one had seen Smoltz and HH in the same room.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #7 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:25:56 pm »

RBI double by Valbuena and single by Marwin make it 5-0.

NeilT · « **Reply #8 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:26:18 pm »

I like this game so far.

homer · « **Reply #9 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:27:36 pm »

My first trip to New Yankee stadium. Quiet here so far.

NeilT · « **Reply #10 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:28:04 pm »

Quote from: homer on August 25, 2015, 06:27:36 pm

My first trip to New Yankee stadium. Quiet here so far.

Let us hear you!

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #11 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:32:21 pm »

Altuve swings at the first pitch after the walk to end the inning. Guy throws 40 pitches in the inning, but Altuve only sees two of them and makes two easy outs.

BUT....Astros have a terrific inning, hitting the pay station five times, all with 2 outs.

homer · « **Reply #12 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:32:33 pm »

I was the only guy clapping.

NeilT · « **Reply #13 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:34:17 pm »

Does Keuchel wear hiking boots? He's not related to Sid Finch is he?

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #14 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:36:22 pm »

See if I can recap...

Altuve flies out F9
Lowrie strikes out looking
Correa walks
Rasmus triples, Correa scores
Gattis walks
Gomez with a hustle double, Rasmus scores, Gattis to 3B
Valbuena doubles, Gattis scores, Gomez scored
Marwin singles, Valbuena scores
Castro walks, Marwin to 2B
Altuve grounds into FC, Castro out 3U

Astros 5. Yankees 0

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #15 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:40:45 pm »

B1:

Ellsbury singles to LF
Young lines out to CF
ARod grounds into FC, Ellsbury out 5-4, but turn pulls Valbuena off the bag
Texeira strikes out

After one....Astros up 5-0

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #16 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:47:29 pm »

T2:

Lowrie flies out F8
Correa lines out to 3B. That ball was smoked.
Rasmus flies out F8

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #17 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:54:30 pm »

B2:

Beltran flies out F8
Headley strikes out swinging
Murphy singles to CF
Gregorius, who was born in the Netherlands, strikes out swinging

End of two...5-0 Astros.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #18 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:01:15 pm »

T3:

Gattis flies out F9
Gomez lines out to CF. Another good swing.
Valbuena lines out to CF

Every out has been blistered. Good sign

5-0

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #19 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:06:41 pm »

B3:

Ryan grounds out 1-3
Ellsbury grounds out 4-3
Young strikes out looking

Through three..5-0 Astros

MikeyBoy · « **Reply #20 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:11:10 pm »

Altuve took a pitch!

austro · « **Reply #21 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:14:09 pm »

Quote from: MikeyBoy on August 25, 2015, 07:11:10 pm

Altuve took a pitch!

Several of them!

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #22 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:17:04 pm »

T4:

Marwin grounds out 4-3
Castro singles to LF against the shift
Altuve walks, Castro to 2B
Lowrie grounds into FC, Altuve out 4-6, Castro to 3B
Correa flies out F9

BudGirl · « **Reply #23 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:20:25 pm »

Every time I see A-Rod running down the first base line all I can think about is him knocking the ball out of the glove that time.

NeilT · « **Reply #24 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:22:03 pm »

Correa looked good, but Texeira surely was slow.

BudGirl · « **Reply #25 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:23:40 pm »

I'm thinking an outfielder might have gotten that.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #26 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:24:13 pm »

B4:

Rodriguez grounds out 4-3, lallygagging down to 1B
Texeira grounds out 6-3, lallygagging down to 1B
Beltran doubles off the wall in LCF. Marwin looks really awkward
Headley grounds out 4-3

After four...Astros up 5-0

juliogotay · « **Reply #27 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:27:01 pm »

Quote from: homer on August 25, 2015, 06:27:36 pm

My first trip to New Yankee stadium. Quiet here so far.

What are you wearing?

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #28 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:32:31 pm »

El Oso Blanco!!

BudGirl · « **Reply #29 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:32:53 pm »

damn, that was a nice hit by gattis.

homer · « **Reply #30 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:34:09 pm »

Striped astros polo. Front row of 3rd deck halfway into right.

chuck · « **Reply #31 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:34:30 pm »

Quote from: homer on August 25, 2015, 06:32:33 pm

I was the only guy clapping.

I saw one guy stand up in triumph after the Caveman bomb. Are you wearing a bright pink shirt?

homer · « **Reply #32 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:34:55 pm »

More boisterous now. Mostly 'pull him already!'

homer · « **Reply #33 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:35:27 pm »

You know I love to triumph.

juliogotay · « **Reply #34 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:38:36 pm »

Quote from: homer on August 25, 2015, 07:34:09 pm

Striped astros polo. Front row of 3rd deck halfway into right.

Camera caught a guy sitting by hisself wearing the current Astros home jersey, eye glasses and a cap I couldn't identify.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #35 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:39:32 pm »

Marwin!!!

Two homers in the innning.

BudGirl · « **Reply #36 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:39:39 pm »

Quote from: homer on August 25, 2015, 07:35:27 pm

You know I love to triumph.

are you triumphing again?

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #37 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:40:18 pm »

El Rey!

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #38 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:46:09 pm »

T5:

Rasmus doubles off the LF wall
Gattis homers to LF, Rasmus scores, Gattis scores.

That's it for Nova. Someone named "Remoulade" in

Gomez grounds out 5-3
Valbuena strikes out looking
Marwin homers to RF
Castro doubles off the RCF wall...inches from another dinger
Altuve singles to RF, Castro to 3B
Lowrie reaches on E4, as Ryan lets one go right through the wicket, Castro scores, Altuve to 2B
Remoulade balks Altuve to 3B, Lowrie to 2B
Correa strikes out on a check swing

Halfway...Astros lead 9-0

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #39 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:47:47 pm »

I gotta go on the PBP

I'm thinking we should take up a collection to send Homer to Yankee Stadium again tomorrow.

chuck · « **Reply #40 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:48:02 pm »

Quote from: homer on August 25, 2015, 07:35:27 pm

You know I love to triumph.

And pink. I was sure it was a match.

homer · « **Reply #41 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:48:14 pm »

I think Yankee fan is tiring of the triumphing

juliogotay · « **Reply #42 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:50:14 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 25, 2015, 07:47:47 pm

I gotta go on the PBP

I'm thinking we should take up a collection to send Homer to Yankee Stadium again tomorrow.

I'll cover a $12 hot dog.

NeilT · « **Reply #43 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:50:29 pm »

Quote from: homer on August 25, 2015, 07:48:14 pm

I think Yankee fan is tiring of the triumphing

Don't change a thing, but don't get thrown off the third level.

moriartp · « **Reply #44 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:55:55 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 25, 2015, 07:47:47 pm

I gotta go on the PBP

I'm thinking we should take up a collection to send Homer to Yankee Stadium again tomorrow.

I'll drop $5 on that

austro · « **Reply #45 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:01:41 pm »

Come on, Gomez, don't be a putz. That's the kind of shit that can get somebody else on your team hurt.

juliogotay · « **Reply #46 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:03:32 pm »

Put some mustard on that hot dog.

homer · « **Reply #47 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:03:37 pm »

Cargo is an asshat.

chuck · « **Reply #48 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:06:15 pm »

What the fuck are you guys talking about? He was angry that he missed the pitch and was chastising himself. McCann, the real asshat, bitched at him from the dugout because he is a stupid neck. Fuck McCann and fuck Djankee.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #49 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:06:29 pm »

Quote from: austro on August 25, 2015, 08:01:41 pm

Come on, Gomez, don't be a putz. That's the kind of shit that can get somebody else on your team hurt.

He's winning friends again, I see.

chuck · « **Reply #50 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:06:46 pm »

Plus, if you're getting your ass beat you should just keep quiet.

MusicMan · « **Reply #51 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:07:17 pm »

Quote from: chuck on August 25, 2015, 08:06:15 pm

What the fuck are you guys talking about? He was angry that he missed the pitch and was chastising himself. McCann, the real asshat, bitched at him from the dugout because he is a stupid neck. Fuck McCann and fuck Djankee.

From what I can tell, Gomez show boated his double and then told the whole dugout to shut up.

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juliogotay · « **Reply #52 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:07:44 pm »

Quote from: chuck on August 25, 2015, 08:06:15 pm

What the fuck are you guys talking about? He was angry that he missed the pitch and was chastising himself. McCann, the real asshat, bitched at him from the dugout because he is a stupid neck. Fuck McCann and fuck Djankee.

BS he does that shit constantly. He is a fucking peacock..

BudGirl · « **Reply #53 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:10:37 pm »

I gotta agree with Chuck. For one, I didn't think it was much of a bat flip, especially after an out. Gomez pretty much knew it was an out and was pissed at himself. I don't care if CarGo makes any Yankee friends.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #54 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:12:30 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on August 25, 2015, 08:10:37 pm

I gotta agree with Chuck. For one, I didn't think it was much of a bat flip, especially after an out. Gomez pretty much knew it was an out and was pissed at himself. I don't care if CarGo makes any Yankee friends.

Showing the other team up, whether directed at yourself or at them, will generally get that reaction.

JimR · « **Reply #55 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:12:31 pm »

Quote from: austro on August 25, 2015, 08:01:41 pm

Come on, Gomez, don't be a putz. That's the kind of shit that can get somebody else on your team hurt.

Bullshit. What is up with you and him?

chuck · « **Reply #56 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:14:13 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on August 25, 2015, 08:07:17 pm

From what I can tell, Gomez show boated his double and then told the whole dugout to shut up.

I didn't see the first inning but telling Djankee to shut up seems like an eminently defensible policy. And anyway, the fracas started after a weak fly out. Djankee needs to shut up.

I cannot believe that I of all people am defending the Astros to you necks.

BudGirl · « **Reply #57 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:14:27 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 25, 2015, 08:12:30 pm

Showing the other team up, whether directed at yourself or at them, will generally get that reaction.

I don't think he showed up the other team on that play.

I get it, you don't like him. I do think you guys need to be honest about his behavior.

JimR · « **Reply #58 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:14:56 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 25, 2015, 08:12:30 pm

Showing the other team up, whether directed at yourself or at them, will generally get that reaction.

Yeah, if the other team is a bunch of asses. He did not show up the Yankees. He was pissed at himself. 2 or 3 of you folks are on a mission.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #59 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:16:14 pm »

Quote from: JimR on August 25, 2015, 08:14:56 pm

Yeah, if the other team is a bunch of asses. He did not show up the Yankees. He was pissed at himself. 2 or 3 of you folks are on a mission.

I'm on no mission. I've make no secret that I do not like Gonzalez, think he's a dick, and do not want him on this club. You think the way he conducts himself is entirely appropriate. OK.

BudGirl · « **Reply #60 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:17:05 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 25, 2015, 08:16:14 pm

I'm on no mission. I've make no secret that I do not like Gonzalez, think he's a dick, and do not want him on this club. You think the way he conducts himself is entirely appropriate. OK.

Get your players right. Gomez. Unless you have a problem with latin/Hispanic players.

austro · « **Reply #61 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:17:13 pm »

Quote from: JimR on August 25, 2015, 08:12:31 pm

Bullshit. What is up with you and him?

I don't think it was obvious because the camera cut away quickly, but he threw his bat away very aggressively as if to say "there's no way you should have got me out with that pitch". That may or may not be true, but when you're up by a bunch, it's just not bright to show up the other side. Especially when they may still have Oberholtzer in the back of their minds. I don't want anybody else taking inside pitches off of their wrists.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #62 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:17:13 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on August 25, 2015, 08:14:27 pm

I don't think he showed up the other team on that play.

Being that demonstrative when you make an out is considered so.

Quote

I get it, you don't like him. I do think you guys need to be honest about his behavior.

I've never hid my feelings about him. You're off base here.

MusicMan · « **Reply #63 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:17:41 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 25, 2015, 08:16:14 pm

I'm on no mission. I've make no secret that I do not like Gonzalez, think he's a dick, and do not want him on this club. You think the way he conducts himself is entirely appropriate. OK.

I think and hope you mean Gomez.

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HudsonHawk · « **Reply #64 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:18:12 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on August 25, 2015, 08:17:05 pm

Get your players right. Gomez. Unless you have a problem with latin/Hispanic players.

Yes, Gomez. Sorry. I thought that was obvious, but thanks for projecting racism into the discussion.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #65 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:18:24 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on August 25, 2015, 08:17:41 pm

I think and hope you mean Gomez.

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Yes, Gomez. I'm known to be a huge fan of Gonzalez.

MusicMan · « **Reply #66 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:19:25 pm »

Quote from: chuck on August 25, 2015, 08:14:13 pm

I cannot believe that I of all people am defending the Astros to you necks.

Now you're just another schlong gorveller.

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juliogotay · « **Reply #67 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:19:48 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 25, 2015, 08:18:12 pm

Yes, Gomez. Sorry. I thought that was obvious, but thinks for projecting racism into the discussion.

Yes. You're better than that BG.

BudGirl · « **Reply #68 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:19:56 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 25, 2015, 08:18:12 pm

Yes, Gomez. Sorry. I thought that was obvious, but thinks for projecting racism into the discussion.

That was just a dig to make it a little lighter. If I really thought you had a problem like that I wouldn't have tossed it out like that.

I just disagree with you about Gomez. Go figure, someone disagrees with you.

NeilT · « **Reply #69 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:20:30 pm »

Hey guys! Did you see that Gomez bat flip! Man, that was some great stuff!

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #70 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:21:59 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on August 25, 2015, 08:19:56 pm

That was just a dig to make it a little lighter. If I really thought you had a problem like that I wouldn't have tossed it out like that.

I just disagree with you about Gomez. Go figure, someone disagrees with you.

Accusing someone of racism generally doesn't lighten the discussion. And I get that you don't think there's anything wrong with the way he conducts himself.

chuck · « **Reply #71 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:22:15 pm »

That was a pretty good at bat by Carter until he reverted to his natural suckitude.

MusicMan · « **Reply #72 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:22:34 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 25, 2015, 08:18:12 pm

Yes, Gomez. Sorry. I thought that was obvious, but thanks for projecting racism into the discussion.

Let's talk about Donald Trump!

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ferret · « **Reply #73 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:23:53 pm »

Start a brawl. Let Hampton push McCann's face in. Or have I missed something?

doyce7 · « **Reply #74 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:24:04 pm »

I have no problem with Gomez did. Guys throw bats, beat the ground, ect after an out all the time

BudGirl · « **Reply #75 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:24:04 pm »

I love how the Astros having a 9-0 lead against the Yankees and everyone seems to be pissy.

I know HH is not a racist. I apologize for offending him and anyone else.

NeilT · « **Reply #76 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:24:37 pm »

Bases loaded for Rasmussen.

MusicMan · « **Reply #77 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:28:20 pm »

Per Jayson Stark, Keuchel trying to become first pitcher to throw back to back shutouts vs Yankees since 1981.

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austro · « **Reply #78 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:30:16 pm »

Jesus, this a month's worth of runs tonight.

ferret · « **Reply #79 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:30:24 pm »

Flip that

NeilT · « **Reply #80 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:30:25 pm »

Gomanzez up, and bombs, but no damned bat flip. What a waste.

JimR · « **Reply #81 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:30:58 pm »

Ha haha

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #82 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:31:02 pm »

Gomez has certainly hit the ball hard tonight.

chuck · « **Reply #83 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:32:02 pm »

I'm laughing so hard I can barely type.

NeilT · « **Reply #84 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:32:30 pm »

Quote from: chuck on August 25, 2015, 08:32:02 pm

I'm laughing so hard I can barely type.

What happened?

BudGirl · « **Reply #85 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:33:08 pm »

Gomez may finally start getting some regular hits!!!

MusicMan · « **Reply #86 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:34:11 pm »

Quote from: NeilT on August 25, 2015, 08:30:25 pm

Gomanzez up, and bombs, but no damned bat flip. What a waste.

SFN

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BudGirl · « **Reply #87 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:34:27 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on August 25, 2015, 08:34:11 pm

SFN

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for what?

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #88 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:34:33 pm »

fucking Yankees...suck it!

JimR · « **Reply #89 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:36:18 pm »

No, no. Can't make the Yankees mad.

So fucking funny. Gomez told McCann to STFUwith that bomb.

Baseball is a strange game.

chuck · « **Reply #90 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:37:21 pm »

GOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLL!!!!!!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLL DE CENTENARIOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

MusicMan · « **Reply #91 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:38:38 pm »

If this game lasts 4 hours I will need medical attention.

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chuck · « **Reply #92 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:40:41 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on August 25, 2015, 08:38:38 pm

If this game lasts 4 hours I will need medical attention.

Why? You can't be playing the Intriguing Ashby Drinking Game.

NeilT · « **Reply #93 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:41:09 pm »

Keuchel's at 87 pitches? He better not bitch about run support.

BudGirl · « **Reply #94 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:43:42 pm »

maybe McCann will pitch the 9th.

ferret · « **Reply #95 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:43:55 pm »

The Spleen · « **Reply #96 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:44:19 pm »

Tools like McCann are a part of the problem, not a part of the solution.
White good ole boys have their own special ways of showboating and attention whoring.
But they do it "for the good of the game" so that makes it OK...

BudGirl · « **Reply #97 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:44:43 pm »

Ryan forgets to cover first.

pots · « **Reply #98 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:45:51 pm »

What a refreshing way to win. They should try this more often

NeilT · « **Reply #99 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:47:19 pm »

Quote from: pots on August 25, 2015, 08:45:51 pm

What a refreshing way to win. They should try this more often

They haven't won yet. I think you mean that this is a refreshingly enjoyable game so far.

BudGirl · « **Reply #100 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:47:44 pm »

BTW, VV is warming up.

NeilT · « **Reply #101 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:48:03 pm »

Man I like Marisnick.

pots · « **Reply #102 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:48:23 pm »

Quote from: NeilT on August 25, 2015, 08:47:19 pm

They haven't won yet. I think you mean that this is a refreshingly enjoyable game so far.

Now now Neil no team can blow a 15 run lead in 2 innings

BudGirl · « **Reply #103 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:48:45 pm »

Quote from: pots on August 25, 2015, 08:48:23 pm

Now now Neil no team can blow a 15 run lead.

not until people start saying things like that.

chuck · « **Reply #104 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:48:59 pm »

Quote from: pots on August 25, 2015, 08:48:23 pm

Now now Neil no team can blow a 15 run lead.

Delete post, ban user.

austro · « **Reply #105 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:49:23 pm »

Quote from: pots on August 25, 2015, 08:48:23 pm

Now now Neil no team can blow a 15 run lead in 2 innings

Depends on whether the game involves Wagner and Giles.

JimR · « **Reply #106 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:49:25 pm »

Quote from: pots on August 25, 2015, 08:48:23 pm

Now now Neil no team can blow a 15 run lead in 2 innings

STFU

NeilT · « **Reply #107 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:50:32 pm »

Quote from: pots on August 25, 2015, 08:48:23 pm

Now now Neil no team can blow a 15 run lead in 2 innings

They get through this clean, you're required to say some damn hubris thing every game.

pots · « **Reply #108 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:50:32 pm »

Quote from: chuck on August 25, 2015, 08:48:59 pm

Delete post, ban user.

Wow you folks just can't accept an easy one. fine. Man i hope hey can find a way to lock this one down

NeilT · « **Reply #109 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:51:33 pm »

Quote from: pots on August 25, 2015, 08:50:32 pm

Wow you folks just can't accept an easy one. fine. Man i hope hey can find a way to lock this one down

I'm still suffering from that 11-run lead with he Pirates. that was it, right?

JimR · « **Reply #110 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:52:19 pm »

Baseball Gods hear that shit.

The Spleen · « **Reply #111 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:53:19 pm »

Quote from: pots on August 25, 2015, 08:50:32 pm

Wow you folks just can't accept an easy one. fine. Man i hope hey can find a way to lock this one down

7 or 8 runs in the top of the 9th ought to do it.
To be extra safe, Gomez can hit one into Monument Park and then circle the bases on a unicycle...

austro · « **Reply #112 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:53:45 pm »

Quote from: NeilT on August 25, 2015, 08:51:33 pm

I'm still suffering from that 11-run lead with he Pirates. that was it, right?

I thought it was 8, but who knows? After a while the pain is so intense that the details blur.

JimR · « **Reply #113 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:54:38 pm »

The strike zone be expanding.

chuck · « **Reply #114 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:55:43 pm »

NeilT · « **Reply #115 on:** August 25, 2015, 08:56:44 pm »

Quote from: chuck on August 25, 2015, 08:55:43 pm

7.

I'm sure it was 15.

NeilT · « **Reply #116 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:02:11 pm »

I think it's time to discuss the guitarists in the Yardbirds. Apparently Clapton left because he was at that time a blues purist, and was replaced by Beck, who fit in best with their direction. An argument can be made that Beck was the best Yardbirds guitarist, without being the best guitarist.

austro · « **Reply #117 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:05:33 pm »

Quote from: NeilT on August 25, 2015, 09:02:11 pm

An argument can be made that Beck was the best Yardbirds guitarist, without being the best guitarist.

As a lawyer, you know that an argument can be made for damn near anything. That doesn't mean it's a winning argument, or even a rational one.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #118 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:08:48 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 25, 2015, 08:12:30 pm

Showing the other team up, whether directed at yourself or at them, will generally get that reaction.

This hard on you have for Gomez has gone well beyond tiresome. Move on already.

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HudsonHawk · « **Reply #119 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:11:00 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on August 25, 2015, 09:08:48 pm

This hard on you have for Gomez has gone well beyond tiresome. Move on already.

I don't know where this comes from, other than you think it's cool to jump on me personally, but you are so far off of base here.

NeilT · « **Reply #120 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:12:11 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on August 25, 2015, 09:08:48 pm

This hard on you have for Gomez has gone well beyond tiresome. Move on already.

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There are lots of folks who don't like Gomez. He brings a lot of reputation with him.

austro · « **Reply #121 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:13:27 pm »

Is Carter trying to kill Correa?

NeilT · « **Reply #122 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:13:41 pm »

Quote from: NeilT on August 25, 2015, 09:12:11 pm

There are lots of folks who don't like Gomez. He brings a lot of reputation with him.

Dammit Carter.

Texifornia · « **Reply #123 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:13:48 pm »

Quit messing around, VV and just go after these guys!

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #124 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:14:28 pm »

Quote from: NeilT on August 25, 2015, 09:12:11 pm

There are lots of folks who don't like Gomez. He brings a lot of reputation with him.

And apparently they all have hardons. Or at least semis, I reckon.

MikeyBoy · « **Reply #125 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:15:06 pm »

Get Carter off the fucking field before he hurts somebody.

NeilT · « **Reply #126 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:16:05 pm »

15-1. All right Pots. Next no-hitter, you have to post it's a no-hitter every inning.

BudGirl · « **Reply #127 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:17:33 pm »

if correa got injured with those throws then I'm blaming pots.

chuck · « **Reply #128 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:17:53 pm »

The idea that Chris Carter puts on a uniform and occasionally plays for the Houston Astros is bizarre and a real testament to either the stubbornness or the arrogance (or both) of the front office.

He is statistically the worst offensive player in baseball and I have seen nothing to disabuse me of the idea that he is (by far) the worst defensive player.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #129 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:18:25 pm »

Quote from: austro on August 25, 2015, 09:13:27 pm

Is Carter trying to kill Correa?

With a 15-run lead in the 9th, just get the easy out.

NeilT · « **Reply #130 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:18:51 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on August 25, 2015, 09:17:33 pm

if correa got injured with those throws then I'm blaming pots.

No, that's Carter. And I like Carter.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #131 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:20:20 pm »

Quote from: chuck on August 25, 2015, 09:17:53 pm

He is statistically the worst offensive player in baseball and I have seen nothing to disabuse me of the idea that he is (by far) the worst defensive player.

I think he's usually a dependable defensive first baseman. Neither of those two plays were smart given the situation, however.

austro · « **Reply #132 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:22:17 pm »

LaTroy Hawkins just came in to pitch the bottom of the 8th for Toronto against Texas. Apparently his middle name is Methuselah.

NeilT · « **Reply #133 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:30:00 pm »

Quote from: austro on August 25, 2015, 09:22:17 pm

LaTroy Hawkins just came in to pitch the bottom of the 8th for Toronto against Texas. Apparently his middle name is Methuselah.

I thought maybe the first throw he was trying to turn the double play. Except for the throw of course.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #134 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:33:29 pm »

Quote from: austro on August 25, 2015, 09:22:17 pm

LaTroy Hawkins just came in to pitch the bottom of the 8th for Toronto against Texas. Apparently his middle name is Methuselah.

LaTroy Hawkins played with Kirby Puckett, who played with Chris Speier, who played with Willie Mays.

JimR · « **Reply #135 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:36:44 pm »

Carter has been a good defensive player. You cannot play once a week and stay even close to sharp.

I do not give a fuck what you folks think of Gomez' "reputation." He is on the Astros now, and his team obviously accepts him. Maybe some of you hardasses should too.

BudGirl · « **Reply #136 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:42:03 pm »

Good grief Rangers fans are irritating. They seem to think every pitch is a strike.

NeilT · « **Reply #137 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:44:04 pm »

Quote from: JimR on August 25, 2015, 09:36:44 pm

Carter has been a good defensive player. You cannot play once a week and stay even close to sharp.

I do not give a fuck what you folks think of Gomez' "reputation." He is on the Astros now, and his team obviously accepts him. Maybe some of you hardasses should too.

l

There are also lots of people who think Gonez is potentially a great player. Hope so.

chuck · « **Reply #138 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:47:06 pm »

Carter is a terrible defensive player. It amazes me that people want to believe otherwise.

Of course with his offense there is no debate. He is the worst hitter in baseball.

If he were the best defensive first baseman in history there would be no reason to carry him.

BudGirl · « **Reply #139 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:55:08 pm »

rangers have lost the lead with two outs in the 9th.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #140 on:** August 25, 2015, 10:11:18 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on August 25, 2015, 09:55:08 pm

rangers have lost the lead with two outs in the 9th.

Lost the game.

BudGirl · « **Reply #141 on:** August 25, 2015, 10:12:40 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 25, 2015, 10:11:18 pm

Lost the game.

yes, they did. Astros move up a game in the standings and so do the blue jays.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #142 on:** August 25, 2015, 10:19:28 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on August 25, 2015, 10:12:40 pm

yes, they did. Astros move up a game in the standings and so do the blue jays.

That puts the Jays in first place in the East.

Reuben · « **Reply #143 on:** August 25, 2015, 10:59:09 pm »

Quote from: chuck on August 25, 2015, 09:47:06 pm

Carter is a terrible defensive player. It amazes me that people want to believe otherwise.

Of course with his offense there is no debate. He is the worst hitter in baseball.

If he were the best defensive first baseman in history there would be no reason to carry him.

In other words, the bad news is as a ballplayer he's no Keith Hernandez.

On the other hand, the good news is as a human being he's no Keith Hernandez.

I can only assume they're keeping him, at this point, because he's a popular teammate and it's almost September.

moriartp · « **Reply #144 on:** August 26, 2015, 05:48:57 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 25, 2015, 10:19:28 pm

That puts the Jays in first place in the East.

I would much rather see the Yankees win that division. The Jays scare the shit out of me.

austro · « **Reply #145 on:** August 26, 2015, 07:09:59 am »

Quote from: JimR on August 25, 2015, 09:36:44 pm

I do not give a fuck what you folks think of Gomez' "reputation." He is on the Astros now, and his team obviously accepts him. Maybe some of you hardasses should too.

Everybody has their own opinion. That's fine; different strokes for different folks, and all that. It's possible to recognize that he's an Astro and hope that he does well (which I do) while still being concerned that his behavior is unnecessarily antagonistic and may set a bad example for the many young guys who will be coming up over the next few years (which does concern me). What I don't understand is why the discussion has become so mean-spirited. If I contributed to that, I apologize.

chuck · « **Reply #146 on:** August 26, 2015, 07:10:37 am »

Quote from: Reuben on August 25, 2015, 10:59:09 pm

I can only assume they're keeping him, at this point, because he's a popular teammate and it's almost September.

I think they realize that if Springer returns to form it will only take one or two other guys getting hot and they will win a lot of games and a lot of series. For some reason they seem to think that Carter is more likely to get hot than a guy who's abusing AAA is to stay hot. They know a lot more about these guys than you or I do so if they want to have Carter in the lineup that's their business. But when his oafishness risks getting someone like Correa hurt that's when it's no longer cute.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #147 on:** August 26, 2015, 07:23:04 am »

Quote from: moriartp on August 26, 2015, 05:48:57 am

I would much rather see the Yankees win that division. The Jays scare the shit out of me.

Me too. I think the Jays will pull away, and that's not a good thing.

hostros7 · « **Reply #148 on:** August 26, 2015, 07:29:26 am »

Quote from: austro on August 26, 2015, 07:09:59 am

Everybody has their own opinion. That's fine; different strokes for different folks, and all that. It's possible to recognize that he's an Astro and hope that he does well (which I do) while still being concerned that his behavior is unnecessarily antagonistic and may set a bad example for the many young guys who will be coming up over the next few years (which does concern me). What I don't understand is why the discussion has become so mean-spirited. If I contributed to that, I apologize.

Altuve, Springer, and Correa are the leaders of this team.

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Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #149 on:** August 26, 2015, 11:05:10 am »

Quote from: JimR on August 25, 2015, 09:36:44 pm

I do not give a fuck what you folks think of Gomez' "reputation." He is on the Astros now, and his team obviously accepts him. Maybe some of you hardasses should too.

I bet I hope he does well more than you do. Even more than I wish he was less of a dick. Okay, I won't bet you, last time I did that I came out on the wrong end.

Bench · « **Reply #150 on:** August 26, 2015, 11:44:17 am »

Quote from: The Spleen on August 25, 2015, 08:44:19 pm

Tools like McCann are a part of the problem, not a part of the solution.
White good ole boys have their own special ways of showboating and attention whoring.
But they do it "for the good of the game" so that makes it OK...

This exactly.

MikeyBoy · « **Reply #151 on:** August 26, 2015, 12:38:20 pm »

Quote from: Bench on August 26, 2015, 11:44:17 am

This exactly.

Hell yea man! Fuck whitey!

Bench · « **Reply #152 on:** August 26, 2015, 01:48:58 pm »

Quote from: MikeyBoy on August 26, 2015, 12:38:20 pm

Hell yea man! Fuck whitey!

YTIFY

JimR · « **Reply #153 on:** August 26, 2015, 02:35:27 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on August 26, 2015, 11:05:10 am

I bet I hope he does well more than you do. Even more than I wish he was less of a dick. Okay, I won't bet you, last time I did that I came out on the wrong end.

How was Jeff Kent's reputation before he got to Houston.

I abhor your characterization of him. Fuck that.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #154 on:** August 26, 2015, 06:47:00 pm »

Quote from: JimR on August 26, 2015, 02:35:27 pm

How was Jeff Kent's reputation before he got to Houston.

I abhor your characterization of him. Fuck that.

Well you know Jim, if it walks like a duck... I don't recall Kent being an ass on the field, during a game, showing up the other team. But rest assured, I want Gomez to do well.

JimR · « **Reply #155 on:** August 27, 2015, 10:16:34 am »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on August 26, 2015, 06:47:00 pm

Well you know Jim, if it walks like a duck... I don't recall Kent being an ass on the field, during a game, showing up the other team. But rest assured, I want Gomez to do well.

you have a very selective memory when you decide a guy is a dick.

you Guardians of the Game amuse me. I do not think he showed anyone up in the NYY dugout. they started that shit.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #156 on:** August 27, 2015, 10:46:10 am »

Quote from: JimR on August 27, 2015, 10:16:34 am

you have a very selective memory when you decide a guy is a dick.

you Guardians of the Game amuse me. I do not think he showed anyone up in the NYY dugout. they started that shit.

It's the players on the field, Jim. Pitchers don't like being treated like they're simply out there to throw batting practice. Dallas Keuchel yelled at Delino Deshields to "sit down" right from the mound for Deshields's behavior. Right or wrong, that's the reaction you're going to get when you're that demonstrative on the field.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #157 on:** August 27, 2015, 10:57:47 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 27, 2015, 10:46:10 am

It's the players on the field, Jim. Pitchers don't like being treated like they're simply out there to throw batting practice. Dallas Keuchel yelled at Delino Deshields to "sit down" right from the mound for Deshields's behavior. Right or wrong, that's the reaction you're going to get when you're that demonstrative on the field.

Apples and oranges.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #158 on:** August 27, 2015, 10:59:34 am »

Quote from: Jacksonian on August 27, 2015, 10:57:47 am

Apples and oranges.

Why?

Jacksonian · « **Reply #159 on:** August 27, 2015, 11:38:00 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 27, 2015, 10:59:34 am

Why?

A rookie was rung up and stood there like he's Mike Trout in disbelief at a bad strike call. A veteran hits a lazy fly ball, gets pissed at himself, runs the bases anyway as the fly ball is caught.

I think it's quite clear DeShields was showing up Keuchel and the ump. Gomez wasn't. He didn't stare down the ump or pitcher as if to say throw a better pitch. IMO this was a carry over of Gomez's and McCann's feud.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #160 on:** August 27, 2015, 11:58:37 am »

Quote from: Jacksonian on August 27, 2015, 11:38:00 am

A rookie was rung up and stood there like he's Mike Trout in disbelief at a bad strike call. A veteran hits a lazy fly ball, gets pissed at himself, runs the bases anyway as the fly ball is caught.

I think it's quite clear DeShields was showing up Keuchel and the ump. Gomez wasn't. He didn't stare down the ump or pitcher as if to say throw a better pitch. IMO this was a carry over of Gomez's and McCann's feud.

What Gomez was saying was "this was all on me, the pitcher didn't have anything to do with it". Pitchers don't like that. And who made Keuchel guardian of the game?

MRaup · « **Reply #161 on:** August 27, 2015, 12:00:42 pm »

Quote from: Jacksonian on August 27, 2015, 11:38:00 am

A rookie was rung up and stood there like he's Mike Trout in disbelief at a bad strike call. A veteran hits a lazy fly ball, gets pissed at himself, runs the bases anyway as the fly ball is caught.

I think it's quite clear DeShields was showing up Keuchel and the ump. Gomez wasn't. He didn't stare down the ump or pitcher as if to say throw a better pitch. IMO this was a carry over of Gomez's and McCann's feud.

Or possibly just the Yankees being a bunch of whiny bitches.

The fact that all of the national pundits were dogging on Girariadiria and his merry bunch of dickbags on the radio next day should be all you need to know.

NeilT · « **Reply #162 on:** August 27, 2015, 12:11:05 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 27, 2015, 11:58:37 am

What Gomez was saying was "this was all on me, the pitcher didn't have anything to do with it". Pitchers don't like that. And who made Keuchel guardian of the game?

Sphinx I think.

chuck · « **Reply #163 on:** August 27, 2015, 12:12:19 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on August 27, 2015, 12:00:42 pm

The fact that all of the national pundits were dogging on Girariadiria and his merry bunch of dickbags on the radio next day should be all you need to know.

Buster Olney took the Astros' side on this. Buster Olney.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #164 on:** August 27, 2015, 12:14:05 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 27, 2015, 11:58:37 am

What Gomez was saying was "this was all on me, the pitcher didn't have anything to do with it". Pitchers don't like that. And who made Keuchel guardian of the game?

Did he? Or was he saying he couldn't believe he swung at a pitch he couldn't hit. Either way he ran down the first base line and did not look at the bench or pitcher. The bench was running its collective mouth while its team was down 9 runs.

I have no problem with pitchers being the guardians of the games they are pitching.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #165 on:** August 27, 2015, 12:17:31 pm »

Quote from: Jacksonian on August 27, 2015, 12:14:05 pm

Did he? Or was he saying he couldn't believe he swung at a pitch he couldn't hit. Ei

He was saying "I can't believe I didn't crush that pitch". I think that's beyond obvious. And you keep ignoring the flip of the bat towards the Yankee dugout in disgust.

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I have no problem with pitchers being the guardians of the games they are pitching.

So if Capuano had gotten into it with Gomez, you'd have no problem with it?

JimR · « **Reply #166 on:** August 27, 2015, 12:23:05 pm »

Valbuena flips the bat and watches nearly every ball he hits.

Damn right, Gomez was pissed because he did not hit the ball better than a popup. that shows up no one.

this "respect the game" stuff is bullshit. the Mighty Yankees were getting their brains beat in and were angry. there is that and the McCann v Gomez past.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #167 on:** August 27, 2015, 12:28:34 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 27, 2015, 12:17:31 pm

He was saying "I can't believe I didn't crush that pitch". I think that's beyond obvious.

So if Capuano had gotten into it with Gomez, you'd have no problem with it?

The pitch was a breaking ball under his knees on the inside corner. I don't know that his being pissed that he swung at all or thought he missed a meatball is obvious. If he hadn't swung I don't know that it would have been called a strike.

Had Gomez stared at the point of contact in disbelief or at the pitcher then I'd have no problem with it. If DeShields had barked while walking to the dugout without hesitation I'd think Keuchel was out of line for yelling at him.

HH, I have no problem with your general stance on Gomez, but sometimes assholes don't act like assholes. I don't think he acted like an asshole.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #168 on:** August 27, 2015, 12:37:30 pm »

Quote from: Jacksonian on August 27, 2015, 12:28:34 pm

HH, I have no problem with your general stance on Gomez, but sometimes assholes don't act like assholes. I don't think he acted like an asshole.

I think that kind of behavior is acting like an asshole, regardless if the other team gets upset at it. I realize some people like the bat flipping, sky pointing, home run admiring pirouetting in the box, chest thumping, angry hat adjusting, etc you see so much of today because they think it shows "passion". I think it's acting like an asshole and I'm a "act like you've been there" kind of guy when it comes to professionals' on-field behavior. I get that most people here feel differently.

JimR · « **Reply #169 on:** August 27, 2015, 12:40:15 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 27, 2015, 12:37:30 pm

I think that kind of behavior is acting like an asshole, regardless if the other team gets upset at it. I realize some people like the bat flipping, sky pointing, home run admiring pirouetting in the box, chest thumping, angry hat adjusting, etc you see so much of today because they think it shows "passion". I think it's acting like an asshole and I'm a "act like you've been there" kind of guy when it comes to professionals' on-field behavior. I get that most people here feel differently.

I do NOT feel differently, as anyone who ever played for me will tell you. I never said I condone bat flipping or slamming helmets or throwing stuff. I said Gomez was pissed at himself and not showing anyone up. McCann started that shit, and once more, this "respect the game" piety is bullshit.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #170 on:** August 27, 2015, 01:28:50 pm »

Would it have killed Gomez to not acknowledge the yipping from the Yankee dugout? Did he have to respond? Did he not tell them to shut up? I don't know, maybe he's got some uncontrollable neurological disorder and can't help himself. I'm sure he didn't give it much thought.

JimR · « **Reply #171 on:** August 27, 2015, 01:29:59 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on August 27, 2015, 01:28:50 pm

Would it have killed Gomez to not acknowledge the yipping from the Yankee dugout? Did he have to respond? Did he not tell them to shut up? I don't know, maybe he's got some uncontrollable neurological disorder and can't help himself. I'm sure he didn't give it much thought.

oh, hey. he's a dick, right? that is what they do.

Keuchel has that same neurological disorder?

BudGirl · « **Reply #172 on:** August 27, 2015, 01:34:54 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on August 27, 2015, 01:28:50 pm

Would it have killed Gomez to not acknowledge the yipping from the Yankee dugout? Did he have to respond? Did he not tell them to shut up? I don't know, maybe he's got some uncontrollable neurological disorder and can't help himself. I'm sure he didn't give it much thought.

Many on this board can't turn the other cheek, yet, many on this board expected Gomez to do so.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #173 on:** August 27, 2015, 01:36:57 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on August 27, 2015, 01:28:50 pm

Would it have killed ~~Gomez~~ the Yankees to not acknowledge the yipping from ~~the Yankee dugout~~ Gomez? Did he they have to respond? (etc, etc...) Did he not tell them to shut up? I don't know, maybe he's got some uncontrollable neurological disorder and can't help himself. I'm sure he didn't give it much thought.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #174 on:** August 27, 2015, 01:44:03 pm »

So he was just emulating the dick Yankees. Well, okay then. Alright. That's a thing.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #175 on:** August 27, 2015, 01:45:11 pm »

I for one like Gomez and what he brings to the table. He may act like an asshole and actually be an asshole (which I seriously doubt), but he's our asshole. And why shouldn't pitchers be the guardian (and enforcer) of the game while out on the mound? That's not a license to act sanctimonious. It is about reminding the other club to respect the game. DeShields was being a prick, possibly due to his past with the club, and Keuchel simply told him to grab some pine, meat. I've got no problem with that.

doyce7 · « **Reply #176 on:** August 27, 2015, 02:33:16 pm »

Some of us like Gomez and the excitement he plays with. some of us like him but don't like some of the things he does. Some of us don't like him and hate the way he acts. Nobody is right, nobody is wrong. It's all a matter of opinion and no matter how much arguing and bickering goes on here, opinions probably won't change. I think it's time that we as a group agree to disagree on whether he's an ass or simply someone who plays with emotion. This shit is getting us nowhere and only creating tension. It's time to move on.

NeilT · « **Reply #177 on:** August 27, 2015, 02:41:17 pm »

Quote from: doyce7 on August 27, 2015, 02:33:16 pm

Nobody is right, nobody is wrong.

You're probably fine except for this. Nobody here will ever agree with this.

Bench · « **Reply #178 on:** August 27, 2015, 02:45:36 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 27, 2015, 12:17:31 pm

And you keep ignoring the flip of the bat towards the Yankee dugout in disgust.

This is a pretty big reach. Obviously the bat would end up on the first base side because he was headed to first, which happens to be the home team dugout in Yankee stadium. To act like he was throwing the bat at the Yankees in the dugout is silly. If it happened at MMPUS he would be flipping the bat towards his own dugout in disgust.

I'd much rather hear your interpretation of him tapping his helmet when he stepped on second and third when he homered in the next at bat.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #179 on:** August 27, 2015, 03:01:54 pm »

Quote from: doyce7 on August 27, 2015, 02:33:16 pm

Some of us like Gomez and the excitement he plays with. some of us like him but don't like some of the things he does. Some of us don't like him and hate the way he acts. Nobody is right, nobody is wrong. It's all a matter of opinion and no matter how much arguing and bickering goes on here, opinions probably won't change. I think it's time that we as a group agree to disagree on whether he's an ass or simply someone who plays with emotion. This shit is getting us nowhere and only creating tension. It's time to move on.

Perhaps you're unfamiliar with this site's manifesto...it's a place for Astros fans to come and fight like hell.

MRaup · « **Reply #180 on:** August 27, 2015, 03:02:33 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 27, 2015, 03:01:54 pm

Perhaps you're unfamiliar with this site's manifesto...it's a place for Astros fans to come and fight like hell.

No it's not! You take that back!

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #181 on:** August 27, 2015, 03:03:03 pm »

Quote from: Bench on August 27, 2015, 02:45:36 pm

I'd much rather hear your interpretation of him tapping his helmet when he stepped on second and third when he homered in the next at bat.

I didn't see it. I know he homered, but didn't see his trip around the bases.

doyce7 · « **Reply #182 on:** August 27, 2015, 03:15:47 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 27, 2015, 03:01:54 pm

Perhaps you're unfamiliar with this site's manifesto...it's a place for Astros fans to come and fight like hell.

Oh I think a good fight, just tire of this one

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #183 on:** August 27, 2015, 03:18:43 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 27, 2015, 03:03:03 pm

I didn't see it. I know he homered, but didn't see his trip around the bases.

Actually, he was on pretty good behavior. He circled the bags quickly and didn't really admire the shot, which was gargantuan to dead CF.

Bench · « **Reply #184 on:** August 27, 2015, 03:31:30 pm »

Quote from: Mr. Happy on August 27, 2015, 03:18:43 pm

Actually, he was on pretty good behavior. He circled the bags quickly and didn't really admire the shot, which was gargantuan to dead CF.

Tapping your helmet as you step on each bag isn't exactly putting your head down and hustling around bases. It's doubly insulting because he was making a big show of the fact that he was wearing a helmet, whereas the Yankees because they were on the field were not wearing helmets.* So he was basically just rubbing his home-run hitting helmet in all of their faces. Highly unprofessional.

* I note that this would not have been true in 2004, but back then it would have been obvious that Gomez was mocking Olerud.

mrpink · « **Reply #185 on:** August 27, 2015, 03:46:07 pm »

Quote from: Bench on August 27, 2015, 03:31:30 pm

Tapping your helmet as you step on each bag isn't exactly putting your head down and hustling around bases. It's doubly insulting because he was making a big show of the fact that he was wearing a helmet, whereas the Yankees because they were on the field were not wearing helmets.* So he was basically just rubbing his home-run hitting helmet in all of their faces. Highly unprofessional.

* I note that this would not have been true in 2004, but back then it would have been obvious that Gomez was mocking Olerud.

I can't tell if you're serious or not about this.

Just in case you are....
http://onmilwaukee.com/sports/articles/brewers5questionscarlosgomez.html

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CG: I do this (taps head) when I'm a little kid when I started hitting home runs. Everyone has their home run style so that's what I do, you know? Every base, touch it, drop my helmet, like remind me. (Edwin) Encarnacio have the "wing," Dimitri Young have the "wing," too – everybody have a different style. To run the bases, I like to run 'em fast and tap my helmet.

geezerdonk · « **Reply #186 on:** August 27, 2015, 04:11:05 pm »

Quote from: Bench on August 27, 2015, 03:31:30 pm

* I note that this would not have been true in 2004, but back then it would have been obvious that Gomez was mocking Olerud.

Who? - Rickey Henderson

JimR · « **Reply #187 on:** August 27, 2015, 04:57:35 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 27, 2015, 03:03:03 pm

I didn't see it. I know he homered, but didn't see his trip around the bases.

You were so pissed you turned the TV off.

Lefty · « **Reply #188 on:** August 27, 2015, 06:20:51 pm »

Quote from: JimR on August 25, 2015, 09:36:44 pm

I do not give a fuck what you folks think of Gomez' "reputation." He is on the Astros now, and his team obviously accepts him. Maybe some of you hardasses should too.

Wouldn't be the first time. I once went 3 years without calling Roger Clemens a raging jackass.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #189 on:** August 27, 2015, 06:21:45 pm »

Quote from: JimR on August 27, 2015, 04:57:35 pm

You were so pissed you turned the TV off.

Actually, I was on a conference call. I'd done 4 1/2 innings of PBP beforehand and had to follow the last few looking around the corner and on the MLB app.

MRaup · « **Reply #190 on:** August 27, 2015, 09:37:16 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 27, 2015, 06:21:45 pm

Actually, I was on a conference call. I'd done 4 1/2 innings of PBP beforehand and had to follow the last few looking around the corner and on the MLB app.

Lackey, neck, polesmoke, etc.

JimR · « **Reply #191 on:** August 27, 2015, 09:49:07 pm »

Quote from: Lefty on August 27, 2015, 06:20:51 pm

Wouldn't be the first time. I once went 3 years without calling Roger Clemens a raging jackass.

Great example. Me too.

Tom Servo · « **Reply #192 on:** August 28, 2015, 03:13:26 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on August 27, 2015, 11:58:37 am

What Gomez was saying was "this was all on me, the pitcher didn't have anything to do with it". Pitchers don't like that. And who made Keuchel guardian of the game?

Doesn't Gattis essentially do this every time he misses a pitch? He gets fairly animated. I would assume it's the same thought process ("It's all on me, had nothing to do with the pitcher").

Bench · « **Reply #193 on:** August 28, 2015, 09:10:21 am »

Quote from: mrpink on August 27, 2015, 03:46:07 pm

I can't tell if you're serious or not about this.

Just in case you are....
http://onmilwaukee.com/sports/articles/brewers5questionscarlosgomez.html

I was not being serious, but thank you for that story. I did not know that.