Author Topic: Orioles @ Astros June 2, 2015 (Read 6892 times)

Mr. Happy · « **on:** June 02, 2015, 03:29:28 pm »

Your lineups for tonight's tilt:

Orioles

3BManny Machado (R)
LFTravis Snider (L)
CFAdam Jones (R)
1BChris Davis (L)
RFDelmon Young (R)
DHJimmy Paredes (S)
2BSteve Pearce (R)
SSRyan Flaherty (L)
CCaleb Joseph (R)

BAL: Mike Wright (R) (2-0, 1.40)

Astros

RF George Springer (R)
2B Jose Altuve (R)
LF Preston Tucker (L)
DH Evan Gattis (R)
3B Luis Valbuena (L)
1B Chris Carter (R)
C Hank Conger (S)
SS Marwin Gonzalez (S)
CF Jake Marisnick (R)

HOU: Collin McHugh (R) (5-2, 4.24)

pots · « **Reply #1 on:** June 02, 2015, 05:09:58 pm »

Interesting that Tucker is now a regular and we seem to have an official platoon of Marisnick/Rasmus.

JJxvi · « **Reply #2 on:** June 02, 2015, 05:20:02 pm »

I keep waiting to go to Altuve, Tucker, Springer at the top but we're sticking with this I guess. (Not that I think its a problem or anything)

NeilT · « **Reply #3 on:** June 02, 2015, 05:23:17 pm »

Is there any word on Castro?

subnuclear · « **Reply #4 on:** June 02, 2015, 05:48:18 pm »

Quote from: NeilT on June 02, 2015, 05:23:17 pm

Is there any word on Castro?

Out today, maybe tomorrow, and maybe the next day according to Twitter persons.

Reuben · « **Reply #5 on:** June 02, 2015, 06:02:53 pm »

Quote from: subnuclear on June 02, 2015, 05:48:18 pm

Out today, maybe tomorrow, and maybe the next day according to Twitter persons.

I wonder if they've had Gattis catch a bullpen or two in case something happens to Conger.

Quote from: pots on June 02, 2015, 05:09:58 pm

Interesting that Tucker is now a regular and we seem to have an official platoon of Marisnick/Rasmus.

But the O's pitcher is RH - so Rasmus would be starting in a platoon.

juliogotay · « **Reply #6 on:** June 02, 2015, 06:52:22 pm »

Quote from: Reuben on June 02, 2015, 06:02:53 pm

I wonder if they've had Gattis catch a bullpen or two in case something happens to Conger.
But the O's pitcher is RH - so Rasmus would be starting in a platoon.

I wonder if McHugh being a fly ball pitcher influenced the decision to play Marisnick tonight. Not that Rasmus isn't a good OFer.

austro · « **Reply #7 on:** June 02, 2015, 07:38:18 pm »

I hope this isn't the new normal for McHugh.

NeilT · « **Reply #8 on:** June 02, 2015, 07:53:44 pm »

He has not looked like Keuchel's little brother lately.

austro · « **Reply #9 on:** June 02, 2015, 08:00:19 pm »

Nice job by Marwin there. Yeesh.

juliogotay · « **Reply #10 on:** June 02, 2015, 08:14:08 pm »

Quote from: austro on June 02, 2015, 08:00:19 pm

Nice job by Marwin there. Yeesh.

Does anyone hit the ball harder than Tucker? That was a tailor-made DP if the second baseman had time to field it.

NeilT · « **Reply #11 on:** June 02, 2015, 08:14:53 pm »

I think I'm kind of a Gattis fan. Just saying.

juliogotay · « **Reply #12 on:** June 02, 2015, 08:15:18 pm »

Tied game! Gattis. 3run dinger following Tucker's RBI sgl.

BudGirl · « **Reply #13 on:** June 02, 2015, 08:15:27 pm »

I don't think they thought he would swing at a pitch in the zone

NeilT · « **Reply #14 on:** June 02, 2015, 08:15:50 pm »

Wright doesn't look happy.

BudGirl · « **Reply #15 on:** June 02, 2015, 08:15:55 pm »

Valbuena is really liking June so far.

austro · « **Reply #16 on:** June 02, 2015, 08:18:14 pm »

Quote from: juliogotay on June 02, 2015, 08:14:08 pm

Does anyone hit the ball harder than Tucker? That was a tailor-made DP if the second baseman had time to field it.

I think it took a bit of a bad hop, too. But he sure did hit it hard.

jbm · « **Reply #17 on:** June 02, 2015, 08:49:46 pm »

Trying to figure out McHugh this year. He's still good, but not dominant. That curve is still pretty good, but not badass anymore. Lots of guys fight it off and stay in the AB. Last year, those were strikes.

Also, he doesn't climb the ladder with the four seamer well this year. Conger calls it, but McHugh doesn't execute it. Last year, the curve/high heat combo was a staple. Not this year.

NeilT · « **Reply #18 on:** June 02, 2015, 08:50:55 pm »

Baltimore sure knows how to drill hitters. Bastards.

NeilT · « **Reply #19 on:** June 02, 2015, 08:52:24 pm »

This feels like the 25th inning.

jbm · « **Reply #20 on:** June 02, 2015, 09:02:04 pm »

No dude named Chaz should throw a scoreless frame against you. Not if you intend to win a championship.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #21 on:** June 02, 2015, 09:04:44 pm »

Marisnick has looked ill at the plate for about 6 weeks now.

austro · « **Reply #22 on:** June 02, 2015, 09:11:54 pm »

I hope this is the new normal for McHugh.

jbm · « **Reply #23 on:** June 02, 2015, 09:13:25 pm »

Nice job of regrouping by McHugh. Puts the pen in better position, but more runs would sure help.

Reuben · « **Reply #24 on:** June 02, 2015, 09:15:04 pm »

Vincent Velasquez just gave up a HR in the 7th inning at Corpus. It was the first hit of the game for the visiting NWA (NWA?) Naturals. He's walked 2 and K'd 9.

NeilT · « **Reply #25 on:** June 02, 2015, 09:17:28 pm »

Quote from: austro on June 02, 2015, 09:11:54 pm

I hope this is the new normal for McHugh.

I hope this is the new normal for Altuve.

NeilT · « **Reply #26 on:** June 02, 2015, 09:26:06 pm »

Tucker seems perfectly fine in left field.

MusicMan · « **Reply #27 on:** June 02, 2015, 09:33:56 pm »

Quote from: jbm on June 02, 2015, 08:49:46 pm

Trying to figure out McHugh this year. He's still good, but not dominant. That curve is still pretty good, but not badass anymore. Lots of guys fight it off and stay in the AB. Last year, those were strikes.

Also, he doesn't climb the ladder with the four seamer well this year. Conger calls it, but McHugh doesn't execute it. Last year, the curve/high heat combo was a staple. Not this year.

Diagnosis: #OswaltInning

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BudGirl · « **Reply #28 on:** June 02, 2015, 09:35:21 pm »

Am I the only one that is completely shocked when Karter walks?

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #29 on:** June 02, 2015, 09:41:01 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on June 02, 2015, 09:35:21 pm

Am I the only one that is completely shocked when Karter walks?

Not as much as I am when Gattis does.

jbm · « **Reply #30 on:** June 02, 2015, 09:41:37 pm »

That was almost an Astros circa 2012 play by the O's, but the throw misses the pitcher's head and they are spared that indignity.

moriartp · « **Reply #31 on:** June 02, 2015, 09:45:52 pm »

I think Gattis is as shocked as anyone when Gattis walks.

NeilT · « **Reply #32 on:** June 02, 2015, 09:56:23 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on June 02, 2015, 09:35:21 pm

Am I the only one that is completely shocked when Karter walks?

I think Karter's been walking a lot. He's second on the team after Springer with 26.

NeilT · « **Reply #33 on:** June 02, 2015, 10:02:57 pm »

post-game Valbuena interviews are pretty special.

Duman · « **Reply #34 on:** June 03, 2015, 08:02:45 am »

Quote from: juliogotay on June 02, 2015, 08:14:08 pm

Does anyone hit the ball harder than Tucker? That was a tailor-made DP if the second baseman had time to field it.

According to the game feed, Tucker's grounder came off the bat at 100 MPH. By comparison, Gattis' HR came off the bat at 102 & Luis' HR came off the bat at 103. Carter's single in the was 107 MPH

Tucker's 1st inning (ground out to second) was hit hard too at 103 MPH. They didn't give exit speeds for his other two ABs.

juliogotay · « **Reply #35 on:** June 03, 2015, 08:29:44 am »

Quote from: Duman on June 03, 2015, 08:02:45 am

According to the game feed, Tucker's grounder came off the bat at 100 MPH. By comparison, Gattis' HR came off the bat at 102 & Luis' HR came off the bat at 103. Carter's single in the was 107 MPH

Tucker's 1st inning (ground out to second) was hit hard too at 103 MPH. They didn't give exit speeds for his other two ABs.

I remember a scout saying a couple of years ago that there was a sound coming off of Tucker's bat that was different. That you only heard from special hitters.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #36 on:** June 03, 2015, 08:34:21 am »

Curious how accurate those numbers are - anyone know how they calculate (PitchFX)?

jbm · « **Reply #37 on:** June 03, 2015, 08:59:54 am »

I think it's called statcast. I assume it is slightly similar instruments to pitchfx, just aimed at where balls are hit instead of near where they are thrown. The fielder and runner data, I don't know how they capture that, but mapping out the fielder and runner data is quite cool.

jbm · « **Reply #38 on:** June 03, 2015, 09:02:52 am »

Here's more:

Quote

Statcast collects the data using a series of high-resolution optical cameras along with radar equipment that has been installed in all 30 Major League ballparks. The technology precisely tracks the location and movements of the ball and every player on the field at any given time.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/119234412/statcast-primer-baseball-will-never-be-the-same

subnuclear · « **Reply #39 on:** June 03, 2015, 09:04:52 am »

Here is a nice page of info from Alan Nathan (including stuff from some dude named Mike Fast) if you have nothing better to do this morning.

jbm · « **Reply #40 on:** June 03, 2015, 10:05:24 am »

Thanks for the link. I can see why they hired Mr. Fast. I hope they pay him well.

On a side note, after reading his article entitled "Spinning Yarn," I am fascinated by the disconnect between guys like him and the average SABR-minded fan who spouts out a lot of SABR stuff, and attempts to bludgeon those with different views. It's like some of these average fans became acquainted with early SABR concepts, and then shut it down. The research is obviously complex and one must stay abreast to be truly knowledgeable.

The leaders in the community are so far out in front of the average SABR-minded fan that the distance between them equates to the distance between SABR and "traditionalists" as portrayed at the beginning of the century.

subnuclear · « **Reply #41 on:** June 03, 2015, 10:58:23 am »

A lot of these articles are like reading a Master's thesis from some Mech. Eng. grad student. Long way from Bill James using VisiCalc to mess around with batting averages.

geezerdonk · « **Reply #42 on:** June 03, 2015, 01:52:08 pm »

The real shocker is when The King walks. One bb in 110 plus PAs.

pots · « **Reply #43 on:** June 03, 2015, 03:30:41 pm »

Quote from: Duman on June 03, 2015, 08:02:45 am

According to the game feed, Tucker's grounder came off the bat at 100 MPH. By comparison, Gattis' HR came off the bat at 102 & Luis' HR came off the bat at 103. Carter's single in the was 107 MPH

Tucker's 1st inning (ground out to second) was hit hard too at 103 MPH. They didn't give exit speeds for his other two ABs.

Is not the speed of the ball off the bat effected by the speed of the pitch? I mean if I take a stationary bat and deliver a ball at 100 MPH into the sweet spot it's coming back at me at a decent speed versus a soft toss that hits the sweet spot that isn't coming back much.

Duman · « **Reply #44 on:** June 03, 2015, 03:59:35 pm »

Quote from: pots on June 03, 2015, 03:30:41 pm

Is not the speed of the ball off the bat effected by the speed of the pitch? I mean if I take a stationary bat and deliver a ball at 100 MPH into the sweet spot it's coming back at me at a decent speed versus a soft toss that hits the sweet spot that isn't coming back much.

It does but quality of contact and swing force also impact exit speed. For example, BP homers often travel farther than game HR despite the slower speed of BP pitches.

subnuclear · « **Reply #45 on:** June 03, 2015, 04:01:23 pm »

Quote from: pots on June 03, 2015, 03:30:41 pm

Is not the speed of the ball off the bat effected by the speed of the pitch? I mean if I take a stationary bat and deliver a ball at 100 MPH into the sweet spot it's coming back at me at a decent speed versus a soft toss that hits the sweet spot that isn't coming back much.

Yes, the ball acts like a spring to store energy that is released after the ball is hit. The speed of the ball coming off the bat is much more sensitive to the bat speed though.

pots · « **Reply #46 on:** June 03, 2015, 04:06:02 pm »

Quote from: subnuclear on June 03, 2015, 04:01:23 pm

Yes, the ball acts like a spring to store energy that is released after the ball is hit. The speed of the ball coming off the bat is much more sensitive to the bat speed though.

And correct me if I'm wrong, the closer to the sweet spot in the bat the more spring.

subnuclear · « **Reply #47 on:** June 03, 2015, 04:13:59 pm »

Quote from: pots on June 03, 2015, 04:06:02 pm

And correct me if I'm wrong the closer to the sweet spot in the bat the more spring.

The bat can absorb some of the energy of the ball and can release back into the ball on the way out. The efficiency it does this will vary throughout the bat and the type of bat.

juliogotay · « **Reply #48 on:** June 03, 2015, 04:32:28 pm »

Quote from: subnuclear on June 03, 2015, 04:13:59 pm

The bat can absorb some of the energy of the ball and can release back into the ball on the way out. The efficiency it does this will vary throughout the bat and the type of bat.

I think this is what my Little League coach was trying to explain when he said "swing hard in case you hit it"