Author Topic: Cuts (Read 4964 times)

astrosfan76 · « **on:** March 29, 2015, 07:46:14 am »

In the biggest, and most important , round of cuts, so far, the club announced the following moves:

Optioned - Dominguez, Buchanan, Stassi
Reassigned - Correa
Told they won't make the team (but, will stay through camp) - Downs, Heineman, Hoyt, Petit

Deduno was also told that he made the club as the long reliever, leaving one bullpen spot for Chapman, Thatcher, and Will Harris to fight over while Fields is injured.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #1 on:** March 29, 2015, 07:51:05 am »

Hoyt surprises me mildly. He's pitched pretty well.

Reuben · « **Reply #2 on:** March 29, 2015, 08:54:05 am »

I think there's one spot in the pen still even if Fields stays off the DL.

juliogotay · « **Reply #3 on:** March 29, 2015, 10:33:51 am »

Quote from: Reuben on March 29, 2015, 08:54:05 am

I think there's one spot in the pen still even if Fields stays off the DL.

They'll need a second lefty.

astrosfan76 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 29, 2015, 01:19:43 pm »

Quote from: Reuben on March 29, 2015, 08:54:05 am

I think there's one spot in the pen still even if Fields stays off the DL.

You are correct. I was going off McTaggart's tweets this morning without looking up actual spots. He elaborated a little more in an article this afternoon, adding that there would be a second spot open if Fields starts the season on the DL. If Fields starts the season on the 25-man, it would be down to 1 spot and they would have to decide if they want two lefties. If not, they would probably go with Harris and one of the lefties.

http://brianmctaggart.mlblogs.com/2015/03/29/astros-roster-coming-into-focus/

Fredia · « **Reply #5 on:** March 29, 2015, 01:38:35 pm »

wouldnt two lefties be an advantage

astrosfan76 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 30, 2015, 07:31:49 pm »

And one spot cleared up:

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@Ken_Rosenthal: Source: #Astros add LHR Joe Thatcher to Opening Day roster. Had signed minor-league deal.

Reuben · « **Reply #7 on:** March 30, 2015, 10:24:58 pm »

astros.com saying Carmonandez has been told he's in the rotation. Wojo could still make it if Obie's not ready to start the season.

So they'll need to create 2 spots on the 40-man. Looking it over, Hoes seems an obvious candidate, and maybe Presley, who's out of options anyway. Or do they cut bait/risk losing someone like White or Buchanan?

pots · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2015, 02:22:45 am »

Quote from: Reuben on March 30, 2015, 10:24:58 pm

astros.com saying Carmonandez has been told he's in the rotation. Wojo could still make it if Obie's not ready to start the season.

So they'll need to create 2 spots on the 40-man. Looking it over, Hoes seems an obvious candidate, and maybe Presley, who's out of options anyway. Or do they cut bait/risk losing someone like White or Buchanan?

Nice thing about putting Presley through waivers, if anyone takes him they are on the hook for a million

juliogotay · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2015, 09:05:00 am »

Quote from: Reuben on March 30, 2015, 10:24:58 pm

astros.com saying Carmonandez has been told he's in the rotation. Wojo could still make it if Obie's not ready to start the season.

So they'll need to create 2 spots on the 40-man. Looking it over, Hoes seems an obvious candidate, and maybe Presley, who's out of options anyway. Or do they cut bait/risk losing someone like White or Buchanan?

I wonder if they want Wojo to open in minors to have him under club control for another year. If Hernandez is shaky they bring him up later.

pots · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2015, 09:07:15 am »

Quote from: juliogotay on March 31, 2015, 09:05:00 am

I wonder if they want Wojo to open in minors to have him under club control for another year. If Hernandez is shaky they bring him up later.

Staring at the 40-man and having trouble deciding 2 players to go...priceless.

My guess is Hoes or Dominguez would be the second candidate. I doubt they are willing to give up White or Buchanan. With Moran and Correa rising fast, Domniguez may never get another shot anyways.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2015, 09:28:28 am »

Quote from: juliogotay on March 31, 2015, 09:05:00 am

I wonder if they want Wojo to open in minors to have him under club control for another year. If Hernandez is shaky they bring him up later.

Wojo's spot is more about the health of Peacock and Obie.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2015, 09:28:46 am »

Quote from: pots on March 31, 2015, 09:07:15 am

Staring at the 40-man and having trouble deciding 2 players to go...priceless.

My guess is Hoes or Dominguez would be the second candidate. I doubt they are willing to give up White or Buchanan. With Moran and Correa rising fast, Domniguez may never get another shot anyways.

Don't rule out trade possibilities.

subnuclear · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2015, 10:07:51 am »

Is Oberholtzer's health an issue? He threw 70 pitches last night and Hinch said he got stronger as he went along.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2015, 10:08:20 am »

Quote from: Jacksonian on March 31, 2015, 09:28:46 am

Don't rule out trade possibilities.

Exactly. Or seeing what else some other club cuts loose.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2015, 10:10:05 am »

Quote from: subnuclear on March 31, 2015, 10:07:51 am

Is Oberholtzer's health an issue? He threw 70 pitches last night and Hinch said he got stronger as he went along.

http://m.astros.mlb.com/news/article/115574962/veteran-righty-roberto-hernandez-secures-spot-in-astros-rotation

Reuben · « **Reply #16 on:** March 31, 2015, 05:54:00 pm »

Quote from: juliogotay on March 31, 2015, 09:05:00 am

I wonder if they want Wojo to open in minors to have him under club control for another year. If Hernandez is shaky they bring him up later.

I doubt it. He's likely to be going back and forth this year no matter what.

juliogotay · « **Reply #17 on:** March 31, 2015, 09:38:18 pm »

Quote from: Reuben on March 31, 2015, 05:54:00 pm

I doubt it. He's likely to be going back and forth this year no matter what.

Yes, but keeping him in the minors for, I think one month, gives the club another year of control. This is what the Cubs appear to be doing with Bryant and the Astros did with Springer last year. He can still be sent down later in the year.

Reuben · « **Reply #18 on:** March 31, 2015, 11:42:54 pm »

Quote from: juliogotay on March 31, 2015, 09:38:18 pm

Yes, but keeping him in the minors for, I think one month, gives the club another year of control. This is what the Cubs appear to be doing with Bryant and the Astros did with Springer last year. He can still be sent down later in the year.

They could easily send him down in late April, or May, or June, and almost certainly will need to as guys come back from the DL and such. Spending 10 or 12 days in AAA at any point in the year (or next year for that matter) will gain them the extra full year of club control. If they need him in early April, there is virtually no reason not to use him.

Springer and Bryant are guys where you expect them to be up for good once you bring them up. Wojo, at this point in his career, is not that guy.

subnuclear · « **Reply #19 on:** April 01, 2015, 08:12:33 am »

According to McTaggart:

Fields, Obie and Peacock to start year on DL. Chapman, Hoes, Singleton to Fresno. Presley DFA

Grossman, Harris, Marisnick, Villar and Wojo made the club

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #20 on:** April 01, 2015, 08:16:09 am »

Quote from: subnuclear on April 01, 2015, 08:12:33 am

According to McTaggart:

Fields, Obie and Peacock to start year on DL. Chapman, Hoes, Singleton to Fresno. Presley DFA

Grossman, Harris, Marisnick, Villar and Wojo made the club

They'll still need one more 40-man move I think....Dominguez?

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #21 on:** April 01, 2015, 08:21:31 am »

Quote from: Uncle Charlie on April 01, 2015, 08:16:09 am

They'll still need one more 40-man move I think....Dominguez?

That's my vote, for whatever that's worth.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #22 on:** April 01, 2015, 08:25:16 am »

Alex White is the other option I think.

Reuben · « **Reply #23 on:** April 01, 2015, 10:01:18 am »

Dominguez/White > Hoes, no offense LJ.

pots · « **Reply #24 on:** April 01, 2015, 10:12:30 am »

Yeah the website has 39 on the 40-man with Thatcher and Hernandez still missing

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #25 on:** April 01, 2015, 10:20:09 am »

Astros place Fields, Oberholtzer and Peacock on the DL, retroactively.

GreatBagwellsBeard · « **Reply #26 on:** April 01, 2015, 10:57:00 am »

Quote from: Reuben on April 01, 2015, 10:01:18 am

Dominguez/White > Hoes, no offense LJ.

D's up, Hoes down.

pots · « **Reply #27 on:** April 02, 2015, 02:47:43 am »

Petit wasn't on the 40-man so they still have 1 person to drop. I see Thatcher on the 40-man now but still no Hernandez

Jacksonian · « **Reply #28 on:** April 04, 2015, 09:32:28 pm »

Alex White DFA.