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Astros @ Phightins August 5, 2014
« on: August 05, 2014, 02:18:01 pm »
Your lineups for tonight's NL style tilt (note: 70% chance of rain):

Astros

2BJose Altuve (R)
RFRobbie Grossman (S)
LFChris Carter (R)
CJason Castro (L)
1BJ. Singleton (L)
3BMatt Dominguez (R)
CFJake Marisnick (R)
SSMarwin Gonzalez (S)
PDallas Keuchel (L)
Dallas Keuchel (L)  (10-7, 2.97)

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CF Ben Revere (L)
SS Jimmy Rollins (S)
2B Chase Utley (L)
1B Ryan Howard (L)
RF Marlon Byrd (R)
C Carlos Ruiz (R)
LF Darin Ruf (R)
3B Cody Asche (L)
P Kyle Kendrick (R)
PHI: Kyle Kendrick (R)  (5-11, 4.92)
« Last Edit: August 05, 2014, 02:57:19 pm by Mr. Happy »
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Re: Astros @ Phightins August 5, 2014
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2014, 02:22:45 pm »
How is your drinking water situation?

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Re: Astros @ Phightins August 5, 2014
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2014, 02:25:03 pm »
The drinking water situation is better today, but the long-term prognosis is not good, and we can expect more algae problems. This city has been so poorly run for so long that the infrastructure is literally crumbling around it.
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Re: Astros @ Phightins August 5, 2014
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2014, 02:54:59 pm »
The drinking water situation is better today, but the long-term prognosis is not good, and we can expect more algae problems. This city has been so poorly run for so long that the infrastructure is literally crumbling around it.

Time to issue bonds.
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Re: Astros @ Phightins August 5, 2014
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2014, 02:56:31 pm »
Time to issue bonds.

You're absolutely right. Since the city is struggling to pay the debt that it has, why worry about taking on more? Surely the feds or the State of Ohio will come to the rescue?
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2014, 03:04:03 pm »
You're absolutely right. Since the city is struggling to pay the debt that it has, why worry about taking on more? Surely the feds or the State of Ohio will come to the rescue?

I'm really extremely lucky to be in Houston. I probably have sat through more meetings about water treatment, sewer treatment, and flood drainage than anyone who isn't a civil engineer should ever have done, and I've got this warped view that that's one of the things government's best at.  The flip side is that if you delay taking care of your stuff it doesn't take care of itself, and it gets more and more expensive.  Sounds like you're saying that's part of the problem in Toledo.  I'm joking about the bonds, but it sounds like a mess.
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2014, 03:13:42 pm »
I'm really extremely lucky to be in Houston. I probably have sat through more meetings about water treatment, sewer treatment, and flood drainage than anyone who isn't a civil engineer should ever have done, and I've got this warped view that that's one of the things government's best at.  The flip side is that if you delay taking care of your stuff it doesn't take care of itself, and it gets more and more expensive.  Sounds like you're saying that's part of the problem in Toledo.  I'm joking about the bonds, but it sounds like a mess.
That's exactly the problem. I knew that you were joking about the bonds. I understand where you come from on that issue, and I obviously worry about paying the debt back.
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2014, 04:39:12 pm »
Neil, that is so true. Deteriorated infrastructure only gets worse and the worse it gets to more it cost to repair/replace.
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2014, 05:07:03 pm »
That's exactly the problem. I knew that you were joking about the bonds. I understand where you come from on that issue, and I obviously worry about paying the debt back.
Drinkable water? or more debt? 

Really doesn't sound like a tough one.

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Re: Astros @ Phightins August 5, 2014
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2014, 06:00:26 pm »
Drinkable water? or more debt? 

Really doesn't sound like a tough one.

But it actually is. When the debt is greater than the city's ability to repay, the risk of loss falls on the bondholders, which is wrong in my opinion. The people made the mess by electing the wrong people, and they should bear the expense.
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Re: Astros @ Phightins August 5, 2014
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2014, 06:33:19 pm »
But it actually is. When the debt is greater than the city's ability to repay, the risk of loss falls on the bondholders, which is wrong in my opinion. The people made the mess by electing the wrong people, and they should bear the expense.

As a general matter, bondholders aren't idiots, and they're getting paid for their risk.  The question really becomes whether the risk is properly disclosed.
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2014, 06:40:49 pm »
is it just me or does it look strange for pitchers to bat
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2014, 06:47:56 pm »
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Re: Astros @ Phightins August 5, 2014
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2014, 07:30:39 pm »
This game seems to be a snoozer.
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Re: Astros @ Phightins August 5, 2014
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2014, 07:36:26 pm »
Keuchel gets out of 1st/2nd nobody out in B5 when Kendrick pops the bunt, and then two ground outs follow.
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Re: Astros @ Phightins August 5, 2014
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2014, 07:53:57 pm »
I have two pitchers in the fantasy league tonight. They've both pitched into the 6th inning and between them given up only 3 runs.  Both are losing and only one is Dallas Keuchel.
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Re: Astros @ Phightins August 5, 2014
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2014, 08:08:14 pm »
Anyone else struggling with MLBtv?  I can only stream for 20 - 30 seconds at a time.
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Re: Astros @ Phightins August 5, 2014
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2014, 08:13:54 pm »
Anyone else struggling with MLBtv?  I can only stream for 20 - 30 seconds at a time.

Mine's working fine.
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Re: Astros @ Phightins August 5, 2014
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2014, 08:17:01 pm »
Same here.
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« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2014, 08:18:28 pm »
Never pity a bondholder.
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« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2014, 08:18:46 pm »
Mine's working fine.
I should not have complained... cant get a damned thing now.
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« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2014, 08:20:02 pm »
Same here.

I guess this is what happens when you live south of he border.
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« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2014, 08:38:33 pm »
I should not have complained... cant get a damned thing now.

This is an important life lesson.  My other pitcher blew up.  At least Keuchel didn't, and I'll keep my mouth shut about Sipp.
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« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2014, 08:48:06 pm »
This is an important life lesson.  My other pitcher blew up.  At least Keuchel didn't, and I'll keep my mouth shut about Sipp.

I have a history of being a bit of a slow learner when it comes to these sorts of lessons.
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« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2014, 08:49:56 pm »
Was that a called strike or check swing?  Either way seemed questionable
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« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2014, 08:55:06 pm »
From my view it looks like they lost power and everyone is just standing there in the dark...
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« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2014, 09:06:52 pm »
This city has been so poorly run for so long that the infrastructure is literally crumbling around it.

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The people made the mess by electing the wrong people, and they should bear the expense.

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« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2014, 09:23:28 pm »
Santana gets to 3rd and Altuve to 2nd with 2 outs, but Grossman flies out. To the Bottom of the 10th.

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« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2014, 09:32:27 pm »
Well that was crappy and embarrassing. Carter needed to hustle in and call for that ball.
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« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2014, 09:35:28 pm »
Manage to get out of the inning with no runs. Top of the 11th.

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« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2014, 09:42:34 pm »
Joba the Chamberlain plunked Jeter.  I have the sound down but I bet that got the boo birds started.
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« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2014, 09:43:25 pm »
Castro swung at some crap pitches right there.

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« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2014, 09:46:43 pm »
Castro swung at some crap pitches right there.
He did. And this guy wasn't even throwing 99.
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« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2014, 09:49:01 pm »
Just spotted the Citizen's Bank or whatever it's name is scoreboard, using Braveheart clips to fire up the fans.
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« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2014, 09:52:00 pm »
Downs nearly rolled that first one up there. And Howard still swung at it. (now watch him hit one out).
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« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2014, 09:55:22 pm »
So Adam Dunn is pitching in the CWS vs. Rangers game.

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« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2014, 10:09:41 pm »
When is Fowler due back?  This season?

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« Reply #37 on: August 05, 2014, 10:10:29 pm »
When is Fowler due back?  This season?

This season.

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« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2014, 10:11:49 pm »
When is Fowler due back?  This season?
The day before Albers comes back, and two days before Crain.
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« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2014, 10:13:02 pm »
From RotoWorld.  Take it for what it's worth:

stros general manager Jeff Luhnow said Tuesday that the club is "days away" from considering a rehab assignment for Dexter Fowler (intercostal).
Fowler is with the club in Philadelphia and will ramp up his workouts, as the Astros clearly need to see more progress before clearing him to play in games. He's been out since late June with an intercostal strain.
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« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2014, 10:16:10 pm »
The good news is that normal services have been resumed in the southern hemisphere.
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« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2014, 10:16:34 pm »
The day before Albers comes back, and two days before Crain.

I guess acquiring injured players is Luhnow's idea of market inefficiency.

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« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2014, 10:19:09 pm »
At what point does Oswalt play left field

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« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2014, 10:34:03 pm »
Zzzzzzzzz.

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« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2014, 10:37:46 pm »
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« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2014, 10:38:49 pm »
Zzzzzzzzz.
Yes, some day this game will end. Probably before Fowler comes off the DL.

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« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2014, 10:50:45 pm »
Second stretch...
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« Reply #47 on: August 06, 2014, 06:27:57 am »
Astros fall in 15 2-1. Shitfuck.
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