Author Topic: Texans at Titans (Read 6642 times)

Limey · « **on:** December 24, 2013, 11:37:15 am »

The only thing that can fuck up the Texans pursuit of the #1 draft pick, is if there's an uncharacteristic rush of pride, and they somehow manage to beat the ~~Oilers~~ Titans on Sunday. Washington (3-12) is the only other team in the running for the pick, and they travel to the Giants where they'll likely lose. Washington owns the tie-breaker, having had a weaker schedule.

At this point, I cannot see how the Texans can move the ball, let alone put points on the board, with no running backs and Schaub* at QB. But crazy things happen ~~when you least expect them~~ at the most inconvenient times...

* There is talk that they may start Yates.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #1 on:** December 24, 2013, 01:16:31 pm »

Unless Tennessee REALLY tanks it, they should dominate this game. And Philips says Yates is not an option, as both Schaub and Keenum will be active. Also out for the Texans are both Dennis Johnson and Deji Karim, which means they'll have to go with Jonathan Grimes, and whomever they pick up off the street on Thursday. Jonathan Joseph is also out. The Texans are basically fielding a pick up team. They don't stand a chance in a legitimate game.

The disheartening part is not that they'll end the season on a 14-game losing streak, or that they're the worst team in the league, possibly the worst NFL team in the last 35 years, but that they think they're close and no major moves are necessary in the offseason. They think they're one or two players away, when in reality, if they don't upgrade at at least 15 positions, they likely won't win a single game next year. They are completely delusional.

chuck · « **Reply #2 on:** December 24, 2013, 01:35:05 pm »

I would like to think that the new coach and whatever personnel guy he brings along be it a GM or a head of scouting or whatever will examine the roster and within twenty or thirty seconds recognize the reality of the situation.

Of course, McNair could do this like Kubiak 2.0 where any new hire has to come in agreeing that the team has outSTANding Super Bowl talent.

austro · « **Reply #3 on:** December 24, 2013, 01:45:23 pm »

For years I've been making fun of my friends that are Cowboys fans, laughing and laughing at Jerry Jones's shenanigans. But it's slowly dawning on me that McNair isn't much, if any, better. They're both oblivious.

hostros7 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 29, 2013, 12:33:02 pm »

I can't pull for the texans to lose, but, if McNair had any sense, he'd saunter over to wade and inform him that the fat Aggie will be under center in the second half.

chuck · « **Reply #5 on:** December 29, 2013, 01:23:55 pm »

It absolutely blows my mind that the Bengals are going to be 11-5.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #6 on:** December 29, 2013, 02:59:27 pm »

The good news is that McNair did not send me a bill for playoff tickets. And it looks like I won't have to worry about that for another 10 years or so.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #7 on:** December 29, 2013, 03:05:40 pm »

Quote from: chuck on December 29, 2013, 01:23:55 pm

It absolutely blows my mind that the Bengals are going to be 11-5.

How about Carolina at 12-4, win that division and a bye?

chuck · « **Reply #8 on:** December 29, 2013, 03:09:05 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on December 29, 2013, 03:05:40 pm

How about Carolina at 12-4, win that division and a bye?

It turns out that having a very good defense is a good thing.

I was thinking about where the Texans are and their defensive problems seem insurmountable. Zero production from OLBs in a 3-4, zero playmaking in the secondary, no depth at ILB, etc.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #9 on:** December 29, 2013, 03:37:33 pm »

Quote from: chuck on December 29, 2013, 03:09:05 pm

It turns out that having a very good defense is a good thing.

I was thinking about where the Texans are and their defensive problems seem insurmountable. Zero production from OLBs in a 3-4, zero playmaking in the secondary, no depth at ILB, etc.

The Texans are comically inept at 7 of the 11 defensive positions. That said, I still think with a competent QB and right tackle, and they win 10 games and are in the hunt.

ybbodeus · « **Reply #10 on:** December 29, 2013, 06:32:21 pm »

Enjoy the perceptive perspectives on record here. Bothered most by the notion of cya handcuffing by ownership/management that HH offered up. I'm not vested in the team like you are, Hudson and whoever else has season tickets; but I still want success for the team, and I'm not certain the corporate culture of this organization allows for strategic thought. Frustrating, because you could see futility coming.g for some time, and I don't throw that out there just because you guys introduced me to the Texans' special brand of dick-stomping from week to week, either.

Out.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #11 on:** December 29, 2013, 11:01:45 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on December 29, 2013, 03:37:33 pm

That said, I still think with a competent QB and right tackle, and they win 10 games and are in the hunt.

Matthews at #1 if they can't trade down?

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #12 on:** December 30, 2013, 06:24:26 am »

Speaking of inept management, Texans still have as many playoff wins at the Cowboys since 1996.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #13 on:** December 30, 2013, 09:20:26 am »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on December 30, 2013, 06:24:26 am

Speaking of inept management, Texans still have as many playoff wins at the Cowboys since 1996.

Eggszactly! Jerry Jones is not only old; he's a fool. A rich fool, but still a fool.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #14 on:** December 30, 2013, 09:46:59 am »

There are kids old enough to drive that think the Texans and Cowboys are equally successful franchises

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #15 on:** December 30, 2013, 09:57:17 am »

136-136 since 1997. I was surprised, but then not surprised.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #16 on:** December 30, 2013, 12:06:46 pm »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on December 30, 2013, 09:46:59 am

There are kids old enough to drive that think the Texans and Cowboys are equally successful franchises

I was thinking about that this morning. There is now a whole generation who only knows the Cowboys as perennial also-rans. The days of them being contenders is ancient history. Made me smile.

subnuclear · « **Reply #17 on:** December 30, 2013, 12:11:03 pm »

The Packers were not a very good team for most of my youth, but I still knew about the Lombardi era.

chuck · « **Reply #18 on:** December 30, 2013, 12:14:54 pm »

Goofing on the Cowboys' ineptitude was fun for me during the first, oh, five or six years of the Texans' existence. But now I'm about ready to derive NFL-related satisfaction from a source other than Dallas schadenfreude.

I know, I know. Good luck with that.

Limey · « **Reply #19 on:** December 30, 2013, 12:16:50 pm »

Meanwhile, coaching heads have been rolling since the regular season ended last night. Jason Garrett not among them (so far):

Washington's Mike Shanahan, Detroit's Jim Schwartz, Minnesota's Leslie Frazier, Tampa Bay's Greg Schiano and Cleveland's Rob Chudzinski (after just one season).

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #20 on:** December 30, 2013, 02:29:45 pm »

Quote from: Limey on December 30, 2013, 12:16:50 pm

Meanwhile, coaching heads have been rolling since the regular season ended last night. Jason Garrett not among them (so far):

Washington's Mike Shanahan, Detroit's Jim Schwartz, Minnesota's Leslie Frazier, Tampa Bay's Greg Schiano and Cleveland's Rob Chudzinski (after just one season).

I'm surprised about Chudzinski. The Browns often looked a whole lot better than the shit he was given to work with. What did ownership expect in one season?

austro · « **Reply #21 on:** December 30, 2013, 02:42:11 pm »

Quote from: Limey on December 30, 2013, 12:16:50 pm

Meanwhile, coaching heads have been rolling since the regular season ended last night. Jason Garrett not among them (so far):

Washington's Mike Shanahan, Detroit's Jim Schwartz, Minnesota's Leslie Frazier, Tampa Bay's Greg Schiano and Cleveland's Rob Chudzinski (after just one season).

Who's going to be the next sucker to hire Shanahan?

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #22 on:** December 30, 2013, 02:46:22 pm »

Quote from: austro on December 30, 2013, 02:42:11 pm

Who's going to be the next sucker to hire Shanahan?

ESPN? CBS?

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #23 on:** December 30, 2013, 04:15:24 pm »

Schefter reporting Tampa considering Kubiak.

GreatBagwellsBeard · « **Reply #24 on:** December 30, 2013, 04:19:40 pm »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on December 30, 2013, 04:15:24 pm

Schefter reporting Tampa considering Kubiak.

They've hit rock bottom and are looking for a shovel.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #25 on:** December 30, 2013, 04:20:27 pm »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on December 30, 2013, 04:15:24 pm

Schefter reporting Tampa considering Kubiak.

Not surprising, considering the train wreck Schiano has been and the near mutiny that has accompanied it. Also, if they think they have something in Glennon, Kubiak's system will help.

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #26 on:** December 30, 2013, 04:24:14 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on December 30, 2013, 04:20:27 pm

Not surprising, considering the train wreck Schiano has been and the near mutiny that has accompanied it. Also, if they think they have something in Glennon, Kubiak's system will help.

I think Kubiak would be a mistake but I'm more concerned with the GM hire. I think any NFL-experienced coach will be an improvement.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #27 on:** December 30, 2013, 04:26:58 pm »

Quote from: Ty in Tampa on December 30, 2013, 04:24:14 pm

I think Kubiak would be a mistake but I'm more concerned with the GM hire. I think any NFL-experienced coach will be an improvement.

I agree, anything would be an upgrade from Schiano, especially if the ownership is looking to put a little dignity back into the office. They'll continue to get slaughtered on the X's and O's, however.

austro · « **Reply #28 on:** December 30, 2013, 04:51:53 pm »

I don't think Kubiak is totally useless. I think he can design a workable offense, and I think he can put together viable game plans when he has a week to prepare. But he absolutely needs somebody else more quick-witted and less predictable to do the play-calling and make in-game adjustments. And he should never be allowed near a clock. He seems like an ideal candidate for a co-offensive coordinator kind of arrangement, but I doubt that he would accept that sort of role.

chuck · « **Reply #29 on:** December 30, 2013, 05:26:35 pm »

Quote from: Ty in Tampa on December 30, 2013, 04:24:14 pm

I think Kubiak would be a mistake but I'm more concerned with the GM hire.

You're getting a GM with Kubiak.

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #30 on:** December 30, 2013, 05:44:32 pm »

Quote from: chuck on December 30, 2013, 05:26:35 pm

You're getting a GM with Kubiak.

That's a Glazer move right there.

Gizzmonic · « **Reply #31 on:** December 31, 2013, 09:41:20 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on December 30, 2013, 02:29:45 pm

I'm surprised about Chudzinski. The Browns often looked a whole lot better than the shit he was given to work with. What did ownership expect in one season?

New ownership trying to make a splash? Dunno, it seems like same shit, different day in Cleveland.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #32 on:** December 31, 2013, 09:46:54 am »

Quote from: Gizzmonic on December 31, 2013, 09:41:20 am

New ownership trying to make a splash? Dunno, it seems like same shit, different day in Cleveland.

+1,000 Cleveland will be hiring its fourth coach in five years (Mangini, Crennel and Chudzinzski). At yesterday's press conference, a member of the press actually asked the owner and the GM what assurances they could give the fans that the organization was not being run by the Three Stooges! Priceless!

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #33 on:** December 31, 2013, 10:01:17 am »

Quote from: Mr. Happy on December 31, 2013, 09:46:54 am

+1,000 Cleveland will be hiring its fourth coach in five years (Mangini, Crennel and Chudzinzski). At yesterday's press conference, a member of the press actually asked the owner and the GM what assurances they could give the fans that the organization was not being run by the Three Stooges! Priceless!

And what does this say to potential coaching hires? The Texans, for all their issues, are seen as one of the better coaching jobs in the league, mostly because ownership has shown patience and a willingness to spend money. Cleveland is certainly not giving that vibe. Who worth a shit would want to coach there?

Bench · « **Reply #34 on:** December 31, 2013, 01:38:26 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on December 31, 2013, 10:01:17 am

And what does this say to potential coaching hires? The Texans, for all their issues, are seen as one of the better coaching jobs in the league, mostly because ownership has shown patience and a willingness to spend money. Cleveland is certainly not giving that vibe. Who worth a shit would want to coach there?

Are there ranches in Ohio?