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« on: November 17, 2013, 06:16:35 pm »
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2013, 06:20:38 pm »
That was so stupendously dumb, he should be fired before the team arrives on Monday.
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2013, 06:23:01 pm »
I was at the F1 race and missed the game. I was hoping to read some commentary here about how bad they fucked up. What did Kubiak do?
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2013, 06:30:07 pm »
I was at the F1 race and missed the game. I was hoping to read some commentary here about how bad they fucked up. What did Kubiak do?

Put Schaub back in, for one.

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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2013, 06:40:12 pm »
Put Schaub back in, for one.

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Schaub "engineered" two drives for field goals full of the overthrows, underthrows and terrible reads we're used to.  We got all of the old favorites: throwing the ball away because a gnat flew by; checking down to the receiver short of the 1st down line on 3rd down, and leading AJ into tackles across the middle.  

It was like he hadn't left.  There were boos and everything.

Serious.  The booing was phenomenally loud when you consider the place was half empty.  
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2013, 06:42:55 pm »
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Wade Smith says Texans had to go to a silent count once Matt Schaub came in because the reaction from the crowd was so loud #Texans
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2013, 06:44:50 pm »
Kubiak's sticking with Matt for so long and then bringing him back in, despite a mountain of evidence showing that Schaub shouldn't be under center is one of the most stubborn/idiotic/selfish decisions I can recall.
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2013, 06:49:26 pm »
Kubiak's sticking with Matt for so long and then bringing him back in, despite a mountain of evidence showing that Schaub shouldn't be under center is one of the most stubborn/idiotic/selfish decisions I can recall.

See Sanchez, Mark.
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2013, 06:51:33 pm »
For the record, the Raiders hadn't won on the road yet this season and we're giving a first start to their backup QB.  This is how badly fucked up the team is right now.  3-13 is my prediction.
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2013, 07:10:47 pm »
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2013, 07:35:58 pm »
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2013, 08:09:22 pm »
3-13 is my prediction.

Who do you think they're going to beat?  Why would you think that?
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2013, 08:09:26 pm »
Andre doesn't deserve any of this.

Everyone knows that Kubiak's screwed this pooch.  Everyone.

It's time for McNair to step up and hire someone good for the big chair.
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2013, 08:10:14 pm »
Who do you think they're going to beat?  Why would you think that?

Jags at home.  That's the only game they have a chance to win. 
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2013, 08:19:37 pm »
Jags at home.  That's the only game they have a chance to win. 

With Kubiak at the helm?  With Darrel Sharpton, Brooks Reed, Bryce McCain and Shiloh Keo starting?  It's a long shot.

It was almost surreal when Schaub came in. A guy in the row in front of me said "this can't be real. It's like a TV movie." 
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2013, 08:49:21 pm »
It was almost surreal when Schaub came in. A guy in the row in front of me said "this can't be real. It's like a TV movie." 

It took me a moment to realize he was in.  We were trying to figure out what had set everyone off.
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2013, 09:03:32 pm »
Someone not watching the game texted me and asked why Schaub was in.   I responded "I don't know, I don't think anyone does."
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2013, 09:33:35 pm »
And yet another game where Kubiak gets his shit handed to him in the second half. Nowadays I watch for the comedy of it all.
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2013, 09:51:55 pm »
Normally I'd bitch about the game not being televised in my area, but today, not so much. Feh.
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2013, 08:53:36 am »
And yet another game where Kubiak gets his shit handed to him in the second half. Nowadays I watch for the comedy of it all.

It was hard watching the 4th quarter.  I wanted the Texans to win...I really did.  But I wanted Kubiak to eat shit for pulling Keenum, so the dude in red on the other shoulder was looking for Schaub to throw a pick-6.

Considering they didn't win anyway, I feel doubly cheated.  I think I am now going to be actively in favour of it all going tits (without anyone getting hurt) as it all speeds Kubiak's ass out of Houston.
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« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2013, 09:12:13 am »
It was hard watching the 4th quarter.  I wanted the Texans to win...I really did.  But I wanted Kubiak to eat shit for pulling Keenum, so the dude in red on the other shoulder was looking for Schaub to throw a pick-6.

I was hard watching because you knew at some point they'd need a touchdown, and you knew they weren't going to get it with Schaub. 


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I think I am now going to be actively in favour of it all going tits (without anyone getting hurt) as it all speeds Kubiak's ass out of Houston.

I pay thousands of dollars per year to go to Texans games.  If they don't play their asses off every game trying to win, THEN I'll feel cheated. 
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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2013, 10:01:40 am »
I was hard watching because you knew at some point they'd need a touchdown, and you knew they weren't going to get it with Schaub. 

The whole thing was crazy.  The booing was extreme, then Schaub completes over the middle to AJ, and the crowd goes wild with cheers.  Then back to the booing.  I totally understand Tate's confusion on this (although he'd be better served not voicing it into an open mic).


I pay thousands of dollars per year to go to Texans games.  If they don't play their asses off every game trying to win, THEN I'll feel cheated. 

As a newly minted season ticket holder this year, I feel cheated also, but with less sunk cost at this point.  But I am sliding down to chuck's level of hell on this.  The target for my ire has been steadily rising from Schaub, to Kubiak to McNair.  It really only makes sense that it's on McNair and his misguided faith in Kubiak (at best) or his moneygrubbing refusal to pay for a decent head coach.

I can only hope that consistent empty seats (they may be sold, but no shows don't drink and eat) and hostile home environment will prompt a change for the better, rather than just a change.  If it were me, I'd promote Phillips to head coach, and then hire the best rising star of an offensive coordinator and put him in sole charge of the offense - with the promise of the big clipboard in time.

I's also fire Kubiak now, because he doesn't need to have any influence over the draft process (and because I can't stand to look at his stupid fucking face).
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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2013, 10:16:38 am »
  If it were me, I'd promote Phillips to head coach

I have no earthly idea why you would ever want this.  Phillips is an AWFUL head coach.  At this point, I would not even want the guy as a DC...it is apparent his teams play with absolutely no discipline whatsoever.  You guys need a 4-3 DC where Watt can go to DE or be a 3-technique and not have to worry about two-gap responsibilities in regards to the run game

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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2013, 10:33:19 am »
But I am sliding down to chuck's level of hell on this.

I now find myself sort of passively rooting against all the teams I used to love. I'm a fairly misanthropic sort of guy to begin with but I'll admit that this is a surprisingly and confusingly isolating experience.
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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2013, 10:48:34 am »
I now find myself sort of passively rooting against all the teams I used to love. I'm a fairly misanthropic sort of guy to begin with but I'll admit that this is a surprisingly and confusingly isolating experience.

I am not rooting against the Texans; just Kubiak and Schaub.  I am not rooting against the Astros; but they are part of MLB that is the subject of my boycott.  I am not rooting against the Rockets; but I am not paying attention because paying attention will result in me becoming invested in the team which will result ultimately in me breaking some furniture because the officiating in the NBA is so inept corrupt it makes Vladimir Putin look like Elliot Ness.  I am rooting for the Dynamo (and Crystal Palace and the England National Team*) unabashedly.


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« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2013, 10:53:43 am »
I am not rooting against the Texans; just Kubiak and Schaub.  I am not rooting against the Astros; but they are part of MLB that is the subject of my boycott.  I am not rooting against the Rockets; but I am not paying attention because paying attention will result in me becoming invested in the team which will result ultimately in me breaking some furniture because the officiating in the NBA is so inept corrupt it makes Vladimir Putin look like Elliot Ness. 

Such torment.  Have you tried taking up a creative hobby such as knitting or building ships in bottles?
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« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2013, 11:06:25 am »
I am rooting for the Dynamo (and Crystal Palace and the England National Team*) unabashedly.

I recognized early on that my relatively recent futbol passions were especially ardent in part because I no longer had any other real object for them. Of course I was promptly rewarded with the Gary Kubiak of futbol managers but at least the organization had the presence of mind to fire his ass after this latest fracaso.
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« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2013, 11:14:08 am »
I have no earthly idea why you would ever want this.  Phillips is an AWFUL head coach.  At this point, I would not even want the guy as a DC...it is apparent his teams play with absolutely no discipline whatsoever.  You guys need a 4-3 DC where Watt can go to DE or be a 3-technique and not have to worry about two-gap responsibilities in regards to the run game

Stopping the run is not the problem.  In fact, it's their defensive strength.  They need defensive backs in the worst way. 
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« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2013, 11:16:31 am »
I am not rooting against the Texans; just Kubiak and Schaub.  I am not rooting against the Astros; but they are part of MLB that is the subject of my boycott.  I am not rooting against the Rockets; but I am not paying attention because paying attention will result in me becoming invested in the team which will result ultimately in me breaking some furniture because the officiating in the NBA is so inept corrupt it makes Vladimir Putin look like Elliot Ness.  I am rooting for the Dynamo (and Crystal Palace and the England National Team*) unabashedly.


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I would give more than two shits about the Rockets if I could actually watch them play.  But they won't let me.
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« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2013, 11:27:39 am »
I would give more than two shits about the Rockets if I could actually watch them play.  But they won't let me.

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« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2013, 11:30:29 am »
Won't let you?

Won't let me.  It's not available from my television provider, and that's entirely no fault of mine.  Ergo...it's "their" fault.
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« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2013, 11:35:55 am »
Stopping the run is not the problem.  In fact, it's their defensive strength.  They need defensive backs in the worst way. 

They would not be bottom half of the league in run defense if they changed scheme and coaches, I assure you...if you have JJ freaking Watt you should not be giving up so damn many rushing 1st downs, that is for sure (they are like third or 4th from the bottom in rushing 1st downs allowed).  Watt on the edge or creating havoc as a 3 tech (I would prefer the latter, if you have a solid 1 tech next to him)...damn, that would be a D.  Don't disagree with the need for DB's, but it ain't like the run D is good enough to think it is not in need schematic improvement.  

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« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2013, 11:52:32 am »
They would not be bottom half of the league in run defense if they changed scheme and coaches, I assure you...if you have JJ freaking Watt you should not be giving up so damn many rushing 1st downs, that is for sure (they are like third or 4th from the bottom in rushing 1st downs allowed).  Watt on the edge or creating havoc as a 3 tech (I would prefer the latter, if you have a solid 1 tech next to him)...damn, that would be a D.  Don't disagree with the need for DB's, but it ain't like the run D is good enough to think it is not in need schematic improvement.  

Actually, they are second best in the league at not allowing first downs.  They are 10th best in the league (that's top third for you Kubiak disciples) giving up rushing first downs. 

The run D is fine.  They cannot stop the pass.  If it's 3rd and 2, they have a chance to get off the field if the other team runs.  If it's 3rd and 12, it's pretty much an automatic first down.  The Raiders had one sustained drive yesterday, as a result of one long pass.  That is a recurring pattern. 

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« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2013, 12:19:06 pm »
Won't let me.  It's not available from my television provider, and that's entirely no fault of mine.  Ergo...it's "their" fault.

If you paid them $1 billion, or whatever it is, I'm sure they'd be happy to send the games directly to you.
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« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2013, 12:20:52 pm »
If you paid them $1 billion, or whatever it is, I'm sure they'd be happy to send the games directly to you.

Actually, not even if I paid them $1 Billion now.  They've already sold the broadcast rights.  Unfortunately, I made my billions *after* the deal with Comcast.
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« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2013, 12:25:44 pm »
Actually, they are second best in the league at not allowing first downs.  They are 10th best in the league (that's top third for you Kubiak disciples) giving up rushing first downs. 

The run D is fine.  They cannot stop the pass.  If it's 3rd and 2, they have a chance to get off the field if the other team runs.  If it's 3rd and 12, it's pretty much an automatic first down.  The Raiders had one sustained drive yesterday, as a result of one long pass.  That is a recurring pattern. 



You are right, I misread the stat...but, they are below middle of the pack in yds allowed (which I believe less important than rushing TD's given up and 1st downs allowed, but nothing to hang their hat on, either).  I think they could be pretty damn good if they changed things up...as it is, I don't see them being "fine" in any aspect of the game.  You are much better at finding a silver lining than I am (I see NO AREAS where my team cannot improve).  I think they could be tremendous with wholesale changes to coaching...

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« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2013, 12:30:33 pm »
Actually, not even if I paid them $1 Billion now.  They've already sold the broadcast rights.  Unfortunately, I made my billions *after* the deal with Comcast.

It doesn't seem to make any sense that a willing consumer would be denied the ability to purchase the product that he would desperately love to 'give two shits about'.
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« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2013, 12:32:23 pm »
You are right, I misread the stat...but, they are below middle of the pack in yds allowed (which I believe less important than rushing TD's given up and 1st downs allowed, but nothing to hang their hat on, either).  I think they could be pretty damn good if they changed things up...as it is, I don't see them being "fine" in any aspect of the game.  You are much better at finding a silver lining than I am (I see NO AREAS where my team cannot improve).  I think they could be tremendous with wholesale changes to coaching...

I never said they had areas where they cannot improve.  Every team can improve in every area.  But not being perfect doesn't mean they should necessarily blow it all up and start over.  But the run defense is not what's killing them.  What's killing them is turnovers, giving up big plays in the secondary, horrible special teams, and the complete inability to make make in-game adjustments. 
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« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2013, 12:34:41 pm »
It doesn't seem to make any sense that a willing consumer would be denied the ability to purchase the product that he would desperately love to 'give two shits about'.

Tell that to the people who didn't give me billions of dollars when I wanted it.  If not for them, I wouldn't be in this pickle.
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« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2013, 12:57:48 pm »
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/11/quarterback-shuffle-draws-ire-from-fans/

"It took four Schaub pick-sixes, the unraveling of the Texans’ season and internal debate for the organization to relieve Schaub of his starting role Oct. 16 and turn the season over to a former undrafted rookie.

Keenum responded by nearly setting NFL records during his initial three outings and losing all three contests by a combined seven points.

It took Keenum’s inability to adapt to Oakland’s blitzes and the Texans’ longstanding offensive futility during the second halves of defeats for Kubiak to go back on one of the most important decisions of his coaching career."


There is also a poll on there as to who should start, Case has 1242 votes, Schaub 41 (I assume Matts immediate family, Gary and the handful of folks who don't like Case because he went to UofH).

Speaking of starters, any guesses on who Gary trots out vs the Jags?

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« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2013, 01:05:07 pm »
There is also a poll on there as to who should start, Case has 1242 votes, Schaub 41 (I assume Matts immediate family, Gary and the handful of folks who don't like Case because he went to UofH).

TJ Yates has more votes than Schaub.  Unfortunately, Gary Kubiak will make the call, and we all know what kind of football idiot he is.

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« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2013, 01:08:50 pm »
well John Granato (who does know some of the minority owners) just tweeted...

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Bob McNair called a meeting for minority owners. Consensus: Kubiak has to go. They weren't sure about Rick Smith. Will he listen to them?

Hopefully they just axe Gary now, put in Case and let the season play out...
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« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2013, 01:13:50 pm »
well John Granato (who does know some of the minority owners) just tweeted...

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Bob McNair called a meeting for minority owners. Consensus: Kubiak has to go. They weren't sure about Rick Smith. Will he listen to them?

Hopefully they just axe Gary now, put in Case and let the season play out...


I'm sure he'll consider getting rid of Kubiak this offseason, but until then I would guess it's Kubiak's call on the starting QB.  If that's the case, I honestly believe he'll go with Schaub.  McNair stepping in is the only way I see Keenum playing again this season.
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« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2013, 01:19:18 pm »
If the players/coaches thought the booing was bad yesterday, just wait until next Sunday when they announce Schaub.  Seattles?KCs decibel records could get trumped.
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« Reply #44 on: November 18, 2013, 03:47:20 pm »
Well I'll be damned.  Gary named Case the starter next week.  Im guess it wasn't his choice though.
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« Reply #45 on: November 18, 2013, 03:52:06 pm »
Well I'll be damned.  Gary named Case the starter next week.  Im guess it wasn't his choice though.

Other tidbits from the presser (paraphrased)...

"If I had it to do all over again, I'd do the same thing."

"Benching him won't affect Keenum's confidence, if anything it should make it better."

"I haven't lost this team or the locker room."

"From the press box I noticed a lot of little things we do poorly where I'd thought we'd been doing well."

"Defenses haven't done anything differently in the second half of games than they've been doing in the first half...they haven't been blitzing more in the second half."  Stop and let that one sink in for a minute....



"We gotta find a way to play better."
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« Reply #46 on: November 18, 2013, 04:05:07 pm »
"From the press box I noticed a lot of little things we do poorly where I'd thought we'd been doing well."

So he learns nothing from game film.
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« Reply #47 on: November 18, 2013, 05:17:18 pm »
So he learns nothing from game film.

My thought was that he simply doesn't watch game film. Incredible but possible given the circumstances.
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« Reply #48 on: November 18, 2013, 07:48:32 pm »
My thought was that he simply doesn't watch game film. Incredible but possible given the circumstances.

I think he thinks that we're all as stupid as he is.  He says stuff that the press swallow and don't question, while the rest of us are "Umm...wait...WTF did he just say?"
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« Reply #49 on: November 18, 2013, 08:15:11 pm »
Maybe from the press box he finally realized that Schaub sucks.
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« Reply #50 on: November 18, 2013, 08:52:39 pm »
I think he thinks that we're all as stupid as he is.  He says stuff that the press swallow and don't question, while the rest of us are "Umm...wait...WTF did he just say?"

I don't listen to much sports radio and rarely listen to 610. However, I've tuned in occasionally today just for the sick pleasure of hearing fans that are not taking the season well.  The host, I think Mark Meltzer, was venting about how he has no idea what question he could possibly ask Kubes in order to elicit an honest, non-canned response.  I guess the feel like they can't just hammer him with hard questions because a) he's a nice guy b) he probably wouldn't offer anything anyways and c) the texans organization would probably frown on it and let john McLain have all your snack per diem


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« Reply #51 on: November 18, 2013, 10:13:26 pm »
I've been wanting someone to ask McNair how he would apportion the blame for this abortion of a season among himself, Kubiak and Smith.
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« Reply #52 on: November 19, 2013, 07:24:29 am »
Other tidbits from the presser (paraphrased)...

"Benching him won't affect Keenum's confidence, if anything it should make it better."


...huh?
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« Reply #53 on: November 19, 2013, 07:25:08 am »

"If I had it to do all over again, I'd do the same thing."


...really??
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« Reply #54 on: November 19, 2013, 07:27:16 am »

"We gotta find a way to play better."

You did. Partially, at least. And then you effed it up last week. Ermahgerd.



It's no secret here that I'm a big Keenum fan, but even those who aren't could see what a monumentally bad decision that was.

And now I gotta see if the game'll be on up here on Sunday, or if I'm gonna be using GameTracker and the radio. Meh.
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« Reply #55 on: November 19, 2013, 12:29:12 pm »
well John Granato (who does know some of the minority owners) just tweeted...

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Bob McNair called a meeting for minority owners. Consensus: Kubiak has to go. They weren't sure about Rick Smith. Will he listen to them?

Hopefully they just axe Gary now, put in Case and let the season play out...

My grandmother is one of the minority owners.  I was at her house last night.  No meeting has been called.

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« Reply #56 on: November 19, 2013, 02:02:00 pm »
My grandmother is one of the minority owners.  I was at her house last night.  No meeting has been called.

Maybe she needs to call one.
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« Reply #57 on: November 19, 2013, 02:02:50 pm »
My grandmother is one of the minority owners.  I was at her house last night.  No meeting has been called.

You trust your grandmother?  You think she'd tell you?  My grandmother won't tell me anything.  Of course she's been gone since the 70s, so that's probably the reason.
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« Reply #58 on: November 19, 2013, 02:03:44 pm »
Maybe she needs to call one.

Perhaps they're gonna fire her too.  Whenever everyone gets called to a meeting except you...
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« Reply #59 on: November 20, 2013, 08:34:47 am »
More column inches about how Kubes is on his way out of Houston.
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« Reply #60 on: November 20, 2013, 09:28:57 am »
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« Reply #61 on: November 20, 2013, 11:47:42 am »
Maybe she needs to call one.

McNair is nice to include the limited partners in the discussions.  But he of course makes all the decisions.  It's more of a "lets tell them and explain our decision before it goes public" type thing.