Author Topic: Astros @ stRangers August 20, 2013 (Read 8661 times)

Mr. Happy · « **on:** August 20, 2013, 05:57:51 pm »

Your lineups for tonight's game:

Astros

LFRobbie Grossman
RFL.J. Hoes
2BJose Altuve
CJason Castro
1BChris Carter
3BMatt Dominguez
DHMax Stassi
CFBrandon Barnes
SSMarwin Gonzalez
HOU: Jarred Cosart (1-0, 1.15)

stRangers

CF Leonys Martin
SS Elvis Andrus
2B Ian Kinsler
DH Adrian Beltre
C A.J. Pierzynski
RF Alex Rios
1B Mitch Moreland
3B Jurickson Profar
LF David Murphy
TEX: Travis Blackley (1-1, 4.89)

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #1 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:12:02 pm »

Love seeing the huge grins on the kids faces as they make their MLB debuts. Time to crush a couple off Blacley there kid!

Matt · « **Reply #2 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:12:48 pm »

That's just what we need. Missed calls.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #3 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:17:14 pm »

Quote from: Matt on August 20, 2013, 07:12:48 pm

That's just what we need. Missed calls.

Not only was 1B off the bag, but Hoes might've also beat the throw as well... Pretty impressive to make the wrong call for two different reasons... Ugh!

Matt · « **Reply #4 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:21:28 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on August 20, 2013, 07:17:14 pm

Not only was 1B off the bag, but Hoes might've also beat the throw as well... Pretty impressive to make the wrong call for two different reasons... Ugh!

I saw it live and yet the umpire missed it standing 5 feet away.

chuck · « **Reply #5 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:22:26 pm »

I haven't watched a game in a couple of weeks. I can't wait to see what kind of defensive idiocy Carter contributes tonight.

Matt · « **Reply #6 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:24:50 pm »

Quote from: chuck on August 20, 2013, 07:22:26 pm

I haven't watched a game in a couple of weeks. I can't wait to see what kind of defensive idiocy Carter contributes tonight.

Last night it was Villar.

Matt · « **Reply #7 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:27:11 pm »

Springer hit HR #36

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #8 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:27:54 pm »

And another crappy call on the Kinsler swing-and-miss-called-foul-ball. Fortunately, no harm caused as Kinsler filed out on the 3-2 pitch.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #9 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:28:22 pm »

Quote from: Matt on August 20, 2013, 07:27:11 pm

Springer hit HR #36

“@azfreedman: Springer's latest work of art: a screaming line drive off the LED board in LF for #36. Now has 101 RBI and 100 runs scored.”

Matt · « **Reply #10 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:33:47 pm »

Matty Dominguez got all of that.

chuck · « **Reply #11 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:34:04 pm »

Quote from: Matt on August 20, 2013, 07:24:50 pm

Last night it was Villar.

I heard.

Matt · « **Reply #12 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:35:20 pm »

Stassi K's on 3 pitches in his debut AB

Matt · « **Reply #13 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:35:47 pm »

If Dominguez could get that batting average up another 30 points I would be happy.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #14 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:36:14 pm »

Matty D with the 2-run blast!!!

BudGirl · « **Reply #15 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:44:54 pm »

that could have been an outstanding play if rios had been out.

Matt · « **Reply #16 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:45:29 pm »

Looks like Cosart is going to be tested tonight.

austro · « **Reply #17 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:48:24 pm »

Quote from: Matt on August 20, 2013, 07:45:29 pm

Looks like Cosart is going to be tested tonight.

This defense and this HPU will test his mettle.

His curve is really causing trouble for the Rangers right now.

Matt · « **Reply #18 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:53:48 pm »

They need to jump all over Blackley now.

BudGirl · « **Reply #19 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:55:09 pm »

yeah!

austro · « **Reply #20 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:58:15 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on August 20, 2013, 07:55:09 pm

yeah!

Was that for the Grossman hit? If so, this FSSW telecast is a couple of minutes behind whatever source you're using.

BudGirl · « **Reply #21 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:58:43 pm »

I was agreeing with Matt.

Matt · « **Reply #22 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:59:01 pm »

Nevermind.

austro · « **Reply #23 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:59:07 pm »

Ok, my mistake.

BudGirl · « **Reply #24 on:** August 20, 2013, 07:59:14 pm »

that was the play that didn't get turned last night, and Harrell never overcame.

Matt · « **Reply #25 on:** August 20, 2013, 08:04:39 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on August 20, 2013, 07:59:14 pm

that was the play that didn't get turned last night, and Harrell never overcame.

I don't think Harrell could overcome opening a tough jar of pickles at this point.

Matt · « **Reply #26 on:** August 20, 2013, 08:11:05 pm »

If Cosart could locate his fastball consistently...

Matt · « **Reply #27 on:** August 20, 2013, 08:13:41 pm »

Hoes is a good looking player.

austro · « **Reply #28 on:** August 20, 2013, 08:14:04 pm »

Wow. There wasn't much ballpark left for that one. I hope the offense can get him a little rest this inning.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #29 on:** August 20, 2013, 08:31:28 pm »

Quote from: austro on August 20, 2013, 08:14:04 pm

Wow. There wasn't much ballpark left for that one. I hope the offense can get him a little rest this inning.

Surprised Beltre was able to go up after that one...

subnuclear · « **Reply #30 on:** August 20, 2013, 08:46:48 pm »

Nice little hit for Stassi.

Jose Cruz III · « **Reply #31 on:** August 20, 2013, 08:49:33 pm »

Hey Hap. Did you see where the FTC traded Dejesus to make a place in their outfield for Bogusevic. Thought that might interest you

subnuclear · « **Reply #32 on:** August 20, 2013, 08:50:29 pm »

Stassi! Stay on the bag!

austro · « **Reply #33 on:** August 20, 2013, 08:51:18 pm »

Well, I hope that Stassi learned something there.

Matt · « **Reply #34 on:** August 20, 2013, 08:51:27 pm »

And then Stassi falls for the hidden ball trick.

austro · « **Reply #35 on:** August 20, 2013, 09:00:50 pm »

Hoes has a lot more confidence in his arm than I do.

austro · « **Reply #36 on:** August 20, 2013, 09:13:16 pm »

Quote from: Jose Cruz III on August 20, 2013, 08:49:33 pm

Hey Hap. Did you see where the FTC traded Dejesus to make a place in their outfield for Bogusevic. Thought that might interest you

He homered!

Matt · « **Reply #37 on:** August 20, 2013, 09:24:33 pm »

Well fuck. Beltre has had good swings off Cosart all night.

austro · « **Reply #38 on:** August 20, 2013, 09:24:56 pm »

Fuck. Beltre with the 2-run opposite field shot. Rangers lead 3-2. First time Cosart has allowed more than two runs.

juliogotay · « **Reply #39 on:** August 20, 2013, 09:25:16 pm »

Quote from: Matt on August 20, 2013, 09:24:33 pm

Well fuck. Beltre has had good swings off Cosart all night.

CB in his eyes.

chuck · « **Reply #40 on:** August 20, 2013, 09:29:10 pm »

Let's not forget that Beltre is the player that noted genius Lance Berkman chided the Rangers for signing.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #41 on:** August 20, 2013, 09:41:04 pm »

Quote from: Matt on August 20, 2013, 08:51:27 pm

And then Stassi falls for the hidden ball trick.

Nope, just deked himself out...

Reuben · « **Reply #42 on:** August 20, 2013, 10:17:53 pm »

Quote from: Matt on August 20, 2013, 08:51:27 pm

And then Stassi falls for the hidden ball trick.

What was this in regard to? I didn't see the first half of the game.

chuck · « **Reply #43 on:** August 20, 2013, 10:21:15 pm »

Quote from: Reuben on August 20, 2013, 10:17:53 pm

What was this in regard to? I didn't see the first half of the game.

Stassi was running for second as the pitcher fielded a ground ball. He overthrew the player covering the bag and Stassi was safe at second. The umpire stood there idly watching the play without giving a safe signal. The ball had been cleanly caught by the other middle infielder who was backing up the play a dozen feet or so behind the bag. Stassi looked around and assumed that the play had been made for the force out and started to walk back to the dugout. The player with the ball charged at him and tagged him out. The umpire delighted in making the out call with excessive dramatics.

Jose Cruz III · « **Reply #44 on:** August 21, 2013, 10:29:33 am »

Quote from: chuck on August 20, 2013, 10:21:15 pm

Stassi was running for second as the pitcher fielded a ground ball. He overthrew the player covering the bag and Stassi was safe at second. The umpire stood there idly watching the play without giving a safe signal. The ball had been cleanly caught by the other middle infielder who was backing up the play a dozen feet or so behind the bag. Stassi looked around and assumed that the play had been made for the force out and started to walk back to the dugout. The player with the ball charged at him and tagged him out. The umpire delighted in making the out call with excessive dramatics.

The ump was wrong on this one. He should have given a safe signal.

austro · « **Reply #45 on:** August 21, 2013, 10:33:08 am »

Quote from: Jose Cruz III on August 21, 2013, 10:29:33 am

The ump was wrong on this one. He should have given a safe signal.

And if the ump doesn't give you a signal, you stand on the bag and ask him a direct question. Stassi still blew it.

BudGirl · « **Reply #46 on:** August 21, 2013, 10:42:04 am »

Quote from: austro on August 21, 2013, 10:33:08 am

And if the ump doesn't give you a signal, you stand on the bag and ask him a direct question. Stassi still blew it.

He did blow it, he didn't argue. I think he learned the lesson.

Matt · « **Reply #47 on:** August 21, 2013, 11:05:40 am »

Quote from: Jose Cruz III on August 21, 2013, 10:29:33 am

The ump was wrong on this one. He should have given a safe signal.

Was the ump just fucking with the rookie then?

austro · « **Reply #48 on:** August 21, 2013, 11:19:35 am »

Quote from: Matt on August 21, 2013, 11:05:40 am

Was the ump just fucking with the rookie then?

I doubt that he knew he was a rookie (although maybe he did, since they threw the ball out after his hit). I suspect he was just applying the same rule as the HPU does on a play at the plate where the runner doesn't touch the plate and the catcher hasn't made the tag: no signal is given until a definitive event takes place. In this case, the ball wasn't dead, Stassi left the base, so it's inappropriate for the ump to give any indication until he either returns to the base safely or the fielder tags him out.

I'm pretty sure that the umpire did signal safe when the throw went past the bag, but unfortunately for Stassi, he was sliding into the bag at the time and he never saw it.

BudGirl · « **Reply #49 on:** August 21, 2013, 11:24:41 am »

Quote from: austro on August 21, 2013, 11:19:35 am

I doubt that he knew he was a rookie (although maybe he did, since they threw the ball out after his hit). I suspect he was just applying the same rule as the HPU does on a play at the plate where the runner doesn't touch the plate and the catcher hasn't made the tag: no signal is given until a definitive event takes place. In this case, the ball wasn't dead, Stassi left the base, so it's inappropriate for the ump to give any indication until he either returns to the base safely or the fielder tags him out.

I'm pretty sure that the umpire did signal safe when the throw went past the bag, but unfortunately for Stassi, he was sliding into the bag at the time and he never saw it.

I don't think the ump did signal safe. I remember looking for it on the replay. Stassi slid into second. Kept his hand on the base while standing. Then walked off. The ump rather stood there. That is when he got tagged out. I think Stassi learned to ask the ump what the call was before leaving the base and not assuming anything about major league umpires.

chuck · « **Reply #50 on:** August 21, 2013, 11:26:54 am »

Stassi succeeded in arriving at the base before the fielder made the tag so I have no idea why a safe call, which the umpire most certainly did not make, would have been inappropriate.

BudGirl · « **Reply #51 on:** August 21, 2013, 11:30:30 am »

Here's the link to the video. No call was made at the time of the play.

Please note, the link is from the Rangers broadcast, so you may want to mute it.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2013_08_20_houmlb_texmlb_1&mode=video&content_id=29889105&tcid=vpp_copy_29889105

sporadic · « **Reply #52 on:** August 21, 2013, 11:36:56 am »

Quote from: chuck on August 21, 2013, 11:26:54 am

Stassi succeeded in arriving at the base before the fielder made the tag so I have no idea why a safe call, which the umpire most certainly did not make, would have been inappropriate.

It was a force play, no tag necessarry...there really should have been a call of some sort made. That being said, Stassi should not have assumed anything. The lack of a call should have been red flag enough for Stassi to stay put until he figured what the hell was going on.

austro · « **Reply #53 on:** August 21, 2013, 11:37:42 am »

Quote from: chuck on August 21, 2013, 11:26:54 am

Stassi succeeded in arriving at the base before the fielder made the tag so I have no idea why a safe call, which the umpire most certainly did not make, would have been inappropriate.

My point was that it's inappropriate after Stassi has left the bag.

I just looked at video again, and BG is right: there was never a safe call, which is bogus. My guess is that Stassi felt the tag from Andrus and assumed Andrus had the ball, so he assumed he was out. As he gets up he gives a very brief glance at the ump and then just walks away with his head down. Oops. I suspect that had something to do with it being his first game and not wanting to show up an ump.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #54 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:00:11 pm »

Reuben catches you up.

NeilT · « **Reply #55 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:56:10 pm »

You can't get that kind of news just anywhere. Pretty riveting, and good luck on the rubber game.