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« on: August 16, 2013, 11:44:25 am »
We decided to visit friends in Nantucket, where limericks come from, over labor day, and on the way decided to stop off for a couple of nights in Boston.  I don't know Boston from beans, other than having visited once long ago.  We will go to Fenway, but otherwise, any suggestions on hotels, restaurants, or bars?  Museums?  Shops?  Parades? Must one eat lobster?  Where to for breakfast?

I was thinking of the Parker House for the hotel.  It looks appropriately historical, but any suggestions would be welcome.
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2013, 01:07:59 pm »
We will be in Boston in about six weeks and are staying at Parker House. We have stayed there before. The Parker House has been around forever but either moved to that location or was rebuilt...can't remember which. What I like about them best is the location. You can walk to alot of Boston from there.

The Boston Commons is a great park and have beautiful gardens. Worth checking out. Short walk to the Freedom Trail and the North End where Revere's house is as is the Old North Church which I recommend.  Just down the street from the hotel is an old cemetary and I know I've seen tombstones for Sam Adams, Revere and Hancock. You've got the Quincy Market a short walk away which doesn nothing for me but there is an old meeting hall there that is historically significant.

There are some great neighborhoods there. I love to walk in Beacon Hill. Also, Cambridge is a fun neighborhood. There is a pub near Harvard called The Druid which has the best fish-n-chips I've ever had. An order can feed two reasonable people. You can walk across the Harvard Yard if you care to.

Union Oyster House is not too far from Parker House and I enjoy the atmosphere. I sometimes just hang at the bar for oysters and chowder. I like Legal Seafoods on Long Pier  even though it is a small chain. Food is good and several locations over town.

I would appreciate any recommendations for Italian in the North End if anybody has a favorite spot.

Boston is a diverse city with all of the ethnic cuisines well represented.

Also enjoyed the JFK musem/library. Bunker Hill is close by in Charlestown and the USS Constitution is out that way.
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2013, 01:30:07 pm »
The are foks around here who either do or have lived in Boston, so they can better tell you what the locals do. As for being a tourist, Boston has been one of my favorite places.

Mrs Hawk and I stayed at the Back Bay Hotel, which used to be the old police station. Neat little hotel, convenient to everything. We didn't need a car.

As for touristy things to do (aside from Fenway, that's a given) we enjoyed the JFK library, and loved the whole Freefom Trail thing. There's actually a red line painted on the sidewalk, and you follow that to a bunch of historical sites, from Statehouse to John Hancock's grave, to the Old North Church, across the river to the USS Constitution and on up Bunker Hill. It's a long walk, but it's a leisurly and enjoyable one. You can stop at the Union Oyster House along the way for wine and oysters and more wine.

We also loved the Italian north end, and our favorite eats was there, a place called Mauritzio's, small quaint little candle and checkered table cloth kind of place.

We did all of this on foot and by subway. And don't worry about bars..every other doorway is one.
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2013, 01:32:20 pm »
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2013, 01:34:33 pm »
loved the Freedom Trail. we walked with Mark and his sister until they sat down and mutinied somewhere around Breed's Hill. we called a cab to get back to the hotel.
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2013, 01:35:23 pm »
Mike's Pastry

Be forewarned though...there was always a LONG line at Mike's...at least an hour if you want it to go, and closer to three hours if you wanted to sit down. That probably varies though, depending on time of year and day.
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2013, 01:55:56 pm »
I was there for the Fourth, thought the food was great. My recommendations:

I think Modern Pastry is better than Mike's (It's just up the street).

We didn't make it there, but based on what I've heard it's definitely worth hitting up Neptune Oyster - get there before they open, the wait can be ridiculous (thus why we didn't make it)

Had great meals at Toro (Tapas), Coppa (Rustic italian) and in Cambridge dinner at Oleanna (excellent modern mediterannean) and brunch at Cragie on Main.

For North End Italian - gave up on Giacomos which is supposed to be good due to the line. I thought Daily Catch was very solid.

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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2013, 02:07:33 pm »
Be forewarned though...there was always a LONG line at Mike's...at least an hour if you want it to go, and closer to three hours if you wanted to sit down. That probably varies though, depending on time of year and day.

I love the pistachio macaroons.  I'd probably go back to Boston for that alone.
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2013, 03:37:49 pm »
I can't recommend the Freedom Trail enough. I was there by myself for a conference a couple of years ago, and I downloaded an mp3 tour for like $20 beforehand. Listened to that through about a full day of walking the trail -- very well done.

The Massachusetts State House is right across the street from Boston Commons, and has some pretty impressive architecture/design. Free tours take less than an hour and are given most of the day, I think (check the website for details).

As I noted a couple of weeks ago, I was just at Fenway for the first time, and I splurged for good tickets. It was definitely worth it.
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2013, 04:06:34 pm »
loved the Freedom Trail. we walked with Mark and his sister until they sat down and mutinied somewhere around Breed's Hill. we called a cab to get back to the hotel.

And Breed's Hill is actually where the Bunker Hill Monument is located as that's where the majority of the fighting took place. My wife's family claims Joseph Warren as a relative and my brother-in-law is named Warren.

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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2013, 04:14:35 pm »
I agree that Modern is better thank Mike's for cannolis, but the atmosphere at Mike's is significantly better.  If you're going to eat there, go to Mike's.  If you're going to take your cannolis to a bench on the Rose Kennedy Greenway, go to Modern.  Generally, you can't go wrong in the North End.  There are a thousand restaurants there and I've never had anything less than a very good meal at any one I've been to.  That being said, my sentimental favorite is Lucia.  The place just feels like somewhere somebody got whacked.  Terrific tortellini alfredo.  Also in the North End, the must sees tourist stops are the Paul Revere house, the Old North Church of "one if by land and two if by sea, and I on the opposite shore shall be" fame, and walk by, but don't go in, 980 Prince Street, the spot where the Patricia Family operated out of until Whitey Bulger took them down.  

If you have a car I highly recommend driving up to Revere Beach to Kelly's Roast Beef which is the preeminent place in the world for a lobster roll, paired with a roast beef sandwich and box of fried clams.

Legal Sea Food is classy touristy, but absolutely the best value for quality that you will find.  If you're intent on having clam chowder, stop by there.  

There's a new contemporary art museum on the waterfront that has received rave reviews, but it was built after I moved to Texas.  The Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum is a gem.
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2013, 04:16:04 pm »
And you can't go wrong with the Parker House Hotel. 
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2013, 04:31:51 pm »
Can't believe nobody has called out the hot lobster rolls at Neptunes.  Just go.  Be ready (and very willing) to wait.  However long it takes, you will be glad you went to the effort.

And like coach said ... the freedom tour is great.

ETA: Beware of Legal Seafood ... it has gotten a bit inconsistent over the past several years.  Last time I went there the fish was dry and the service was horrible.
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2013, 05:11:14 pm »
And you can't go wrong with the Parker House Hotel. 

And owned by a Texan that I went to school with in Corpus. 

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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2013, 05:17:02 pm »
loved the Freedom Trail. we walked with Mark and his sister until they sat down and mutinied somewhere around Breed's Hill. we called a cab to get back to the hotel.

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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2013, 05:34:05 pm »

ETA: Beware of Legal Seafood ... it has gotten a bit inconsistent over the past several years.  Last time I went there the fish was dry and the service was horrible.

Thanks for the heads up.  Back in the early aughts it was great, but that was a long time ago.
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2013, 06:06:58 pm »
The only thing I can add is, for god's sake do not drive.
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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2013, 07:08:31 pm »
And owned by a Texan that I went to school with in Corpus. 

Is that why there are omnis in corpus?
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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2013, 07:21:47 pm »
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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2013, 08:12:33 pm »
Part of Paul Revere's ride - and it wasn't just one ride; he was a courier, he was a messenger - part of his ride was to warn the British that we're already there, that hey, you're not going to succeed. You're not going to take American arms. You are not going to beat our own well-armed persons, individual, private militia that we have.

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« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2013, 09:48:04 pm »
Is that why there are omnis in corpus?

I imagine. Although Rowling has since moved to Ft. Worth.

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« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2013, 11:19:52 pm »
Boston's a great place, have been up there each of the past three summers.

A couple other recommendations: if you're into cheesy fun, the Tea party museum is interesting, and we've done the Ghosts and Graveyards tour. As far as eats go, one of my must-go places up there is Tasty burger over by Fenway. If you want a really good burger with lots of choices as far as toppings, its your place. Plus, they're open pretty late, and since there are no Whataburgers, it hits the spot after a few (a lot) beers.

I also recommend the Freedom Trail.
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« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2013, 04:37:18 pm »
Can't believe nobody has called out the hot lobster rolls at Neptunes.  Just go.  Be ready (and very willing) to wait.  However long it takes, you will be glad you went to the effort.



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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2013, 03:59:02 pm »
My favorite lunch place is Dino's in the North End.  Great tasting enormous sandwiches.  I recommend the chicken parm and the caprese and sharing between several people.
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« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2013, 09:46:11 pm »
I ain't been to Boston in years. The North End and Little Italy are a must. Take a stroll around Hahvahd and MIT if you get the chance. The Common is worth a look, and go see a ball game. I'm no good for restaurants and hotels because I haven't been there in so long. But I love Boston. Lots of character(s).
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« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2013, 07:42:58 pm »
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« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2013, 10:20:50 pm »
I can't tell whether that is a disapproving grumble or a dyslexic agreement.

I think it was a Cabrera snort
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« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2013, 01:53:30 pm »
 Just down the street from the hotel is an old cemetary and I know I've seen tombstones for Sam Adams, Revere and Hancock.

Crispus Attucks and the other victims of the Boston Massacre are buried at the Granary Burial Ground as well.  Also Mother Goose, James Otis and Robert Treat Paine.  It's a great cemetery. 
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« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2013, 08:55:50 am »
Just got back.

Neptune Oyster, A++.  We went for lunch at 3 pm on the day we arrived.  It was crowded but there was no wait or line.  I can imagine what it must be like at 7 on a Saturday night. We split a dozen oysters, a bowl of chowder and a lobster roll, and it was plenty for two.

Mike's Pastries was good, though I'm not really a big cannoli fan. I only ate most of two. 
 
We ate dinner at a place called Deuxave, which was good but could have been anywhere.  I met an opthamologist on Nantucket who thought it was the best restaurant ever, and it was very good.  If I lived there, I'd go there, but it's probably not a great place to go for a sense of place.  Saturday night we went back through Boston and ate at Hamersley's Bistro which was outstanding, and I would go back to Boston to eat there again.  Funny, the menus weren't dissimilar, and neither was the clientele or prices, but one felt like it could only be in Boston and the other didn't.  Must have been the decor.  Deuxave was very modern, Hamersley's was in an old building that had been restored. 

The Parker House was fine.  Good location.  I liked what bits of the Freedom Trail we did, especially the cemeteries.

Spent most of Wednesday running on the river and at the Art Museum, both of which were excellent endeavors.  I think we spent three hours at the museum and saw parts of the European and American collections, and the contemporary collection.  It's especially good on Colonial American art:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watson_and_the_Shark

Bought good tickets for Fenway and it was a completely different experience.  This time I thought it was a lovely stadium.  HH is right though, I didn't see any good bars nearby. Plenty of bars, just not good bars.

Thanks for all of the advice, particularly Neptune Oyster.  I would have never gone there otherwise. 

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« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2013, 10:38:46 pm »
Just out of curiosity ... it has been close to thirty years since I've spent any significant time in Boston ... but, is the Union Oyster House still around?

I have some fond memories of that establishment.

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« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2013, 11:14:55 pm »
Just out of curiosity ... it has been close to thirty years since I've spent any significant time in Boston ... but, is the Union Oyster House still around?

I have some fond memories of that establishment.

It's still there and still popular.  The Mrs. and I ate there when we were there a couple of years ago.  I forgot what I had, but it was pretty good.
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« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2013, 07:57:54 am »
Just out of curiosity ... it has been close to thirty years since I've spent any significant time in Boston ... but, is the Union Oyster House still around?

I have some fond memories of that establishment.

Still there and still doing good business.

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« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2013, 09:55:03 am »
It was close to our hotel and we looked in, but didn't eat there.  Looked cool though.
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« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2013, 10:59:41 am »
It was close to our hotel and we looked in, but didn't eat there.  Looked cool though.

It is cool. I'm looking forward to stopping in later this month. Frequent customers range from JFK to Daniel Webster.

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« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2013, 11:12:29 am »
It is cool. I'm looking forward to stopping in later this month. Frequent customers range from JFK to Daniel Webster.

They won't let you order the Daniel Webster Special though...six dozen oysters and a pint of brandy.
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« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2013, 11:46:18 am »
It is cool. I'm looking forward to stopping in later this month. Frequent customers range from JFK to Daniel Webster.
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« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2013, 01:49:45 pm »
Not sure I want to end up like them any time soon.  Can't they attract some live ones?

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« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2013, 07:23:23 pm »
In all seriousness, the Shore dinner, I think they call it - basically, a New England seafood platter and then some - was fucking awesome.  That is how I remember it, at least.