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Oklahoma City - 2013
« on: March 28, 2013, 11:06:33 am »
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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2013, 06:32:41 pm »
Final roster set, per Chron:

Pitchers: Kevin Chapman, Jose Cisnero, Paul Clemens, Jarred Cosart, John Ely, C.J. Fick, Dallas Keuchel, Jordan Lyles, Wes Musick, Brett Oberholtzer, Rudy Owens, Jose Valdez, Josh Zeid

Catchers: Cody Clark, Jason Jaramillo, Chris Wallace

Infielders: Jake Elmore, Marc Krauss, Brandon Laird, Jose Martinez, Jonathan Villar

Outfielders: Trevor Crowe, Jake Goebbert, Robbie Grossman, Che-Hsuan Lin, Jimmy Paredes

Had already seen the pitchers, so no surprise here.

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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2013, 07:02:28 pm »
Where is Lo? Didn't expect him in AAA necessarily but can't find him on any roster after a really good spring.
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2013, 07:34:57 pm »
Where is Lo? Didn't expect him in AAA necessarily but can't find him on any roster after a really good spring.

BA says he was optioned to Corpus.

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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2013, 09:20:21 pm »
BA says he was optioned to Corpus.
But not on their roster either?
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2013, 09:25:32 pm »
But not on their roster either?
These are never final at this stage. Close, but still a few folks to be placed (and displaced).  Also, never count out a minor injury as a delaying tactic.
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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2013, 10:52:20 am »
Pitching tandems:

Lyles/Clemens
Cosart/Keuchel
Ely/Oberholtzer
Cisnero/Owens
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2013, 05:55:59 pm »
Goebbert traded to Oakland, freeing up a spot. They could carry 12 position players if they demote a pitcher to make room for Travis Blackley. But, with the tandem system, I don't know that they'll go that route. Any guesses which position players might take Goebbert's spot?

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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2013, 06:06:15 pm »
Goebbert traded to Oakland, freeing up a spot. They could carry 12 position players if they demote a pitcher to make room for Travis Blackley. But, with the tandem system, I don't know that they'll go that route. Any guesses which position players might take Goebbert's spot?
Probably Austin Wates, but maybe Michael Burgess. 
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2013, 06:31:02 pm »
Probably Austin Wates, but maybe Michael Burgess. 

Waters is definitely a worthy candidate.

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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2013, 07:48:28 pm »
Waters is definitely a worthy candidate.
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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2013, 08:28:34 pm »
John, or Roger?
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2013, 09:15:47 pm »
Muddy. I hear his sliding technique is awesome.

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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2013, 07:38:59 am »
Probably Austin Wates, but maybe Michael Burgess. 
I forgot about FMart on the DL ... whoever gets the call is likely to spend a very short time at AAA.  JD will probably rejoin the Redhawks.
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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2013, 07:51:11 am »
John, or Roger?

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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2013, 09:33:08 am »
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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2013, 07:46:32 am »
Per the bastion of knowledge known as Twitter:

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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2013, 07:49:20 am »
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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2013, 09:47:49 am »
First 4 games and the offense has carried the team.  25 runs.  The pitching had a 6.08 ERA plus 4 unearned runs on 3 errors.
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2013, 11:40:21 am »
Good news!

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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2013, 11:34:04 am »
And Seaton starts tonight, up from CC.
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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2013, 09:13:37 pm »
They need to move Paredes to his natural position ... DH.
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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2013, 10:16:42 am »
They need to move Paredes to his natural position ... DH.
He's playing 3B again, right? You saw him?
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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2013, 03:25:36 pm »
MiLB.com has several transactions affecting OKC:
Everyone who cares probably noticed that Ross Seaton was promoted from CC to replace Paul Clemens on the roster, but here are a few others ...

Ruben Sosa was assigned April 7th and got into one game at 2B replacing Jose Martinez who has been placed on the 7-day DL retroactive to April 7th.

John Ely has also been placed on the DL retroactive to April 7th, and Lance Day was assigned to OKC from Tri-City on April 10th to take his roster spot.

Chris Wallace was activated from extended ST on April 9th and was the DH in the only game action he has seen so far.


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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2013, 02:55:40 pm »
Ely to have Tommy John surgery and will (obviously) miss the rest of the season. Good news for Seaton, bad news for the club's pitching depth.

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« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2013, 08:44:39 pm »
Ely to have Tommy John surgery and will (obviously) miss the rest of the season. Good news for Seaton, bad news for the club's pitching depth.

Ouch. That' two down in this young season to TJ...both acquired in the off-season.

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« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2013, 11:14:47 pm »
Ouch. That' two down in this young season to TJ...both acquired in the off-season.
Bad news for whoever is in charge of going over the medicals of potential acquisitions.
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« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2013, 12:08:02 am »
Bad news for whoever is in charge of going over the medicals of potential acquisitions.
Exactly.
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« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2013, 06:56:20 am »
There is also Weiland from last year although I don't know if that would have been caught.

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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2013, 08:19:53 am »
OKC with a dominant performance over the RedHawks last night, beating them 11-0.  Musick started the game, throwing 5 shutout innings, allowing only 2 hits and a walk, against 5 Ks.  Cosart followed him, throwing 3 2/3 innings, allowing 3 singles and striking out 3.  I'm guessing they use a tight pitch count on the back end of the tandem, as Cosart was pulled at 61 pitches even though he only had a runner on 1st and had just struck out a batter for the second out.  Anyway, Hallock recorded the last out on a force.

Offensively, it was a balanced attack, with 7 of the starters getting hits and 6 recording at least 1 RBI.  Villar had a triple and a single to go with a stolen base.  Krauss drove in 3, with 2 of those runs coming on sac flies.  Paredes bumped his average to .357 with a double and a single in 5 AB.  F-Mart didn't do much, but the fact that he was out there carries some significance, as the big-league club will have to make a decision soon once he's finished rehabbing. 

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« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2013, 12:03:56 am »
...  I'm guessing they use a tight pitch count on the back end of the tandem, as Cosart was pulled at 61 pitches even though he only had a runner on 1st and had just struck out a batter for the second out. 
They a announced it before the season. 5 IP or 75 pitches for the starter. 4 IP or 60 for the second guy.
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« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2013, 07:56:10 am »
They a announced it before the season. 5 IP or 75 pitches for the starter. 4 IP or 60 for the second guy.

I'd missed that.  Thanks.

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« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2013, 11:26:06 am »
Noted on MiLB transaction sheet ...

Andrew Simunic has been activated from EST.  Meanwhile, Ruben Sosa no longer shows up on the roster, though there is no news under transactions.
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« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2013, 11:51:55 am »
Tags reporting that Walrus has been sent to OKC and Laird is being promoted.  X-factor has been DFA to make room on the 40-man roster.  This is interesting since John Ely is still on the 40-man and eligible for placement on the 60-day DL given he is out for TJ surgery.  Let the speculation begin on who gets promoted to take Cedeno's spot in the pen.
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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2013, 01:14:37 pm »
Has Sergio Escalona resurfaced? Or is Blackeley close to coming off the DL?
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« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2013, 04:23:56 pm »
Has Sergio Escalona resurfaced? Or is Blackeley close to coming off the DL?
Blackley is starting tonight for OKC in a rehab assignment.
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« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2013, 11:49:45 pm »
Went to the game tonight here in Albuquerque.  OkC getting the win over the isotopes, here's what I saw with my untrained eye -

Cosart went 5 strong giving up a run and 3 hits.  Got into a jam in the 4th and worked his way out of it pretty well.  The curve was ptty nasty tonight and he hit 97 a few times.  Stayed around 93 94 most of the night.

Musick went 3 allowing only one hit.  Works really fast. 

Paredes got a horrible read on a hard hit ball running in about 3 steps then realizing the ball was cruising over his head -

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« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2013, 12:24:34 am »
Went to the game tonight here in Albuquerque. 

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« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2013, 01:12:38 am »
No hr's for either team tonight but the field looks large.  340 to the corners and 400+ out to center.  Don't remember those dimensions exactly, but I remember sitting there thinking the park just looked big.  I know I knock the shit out of a golfball up here and that makes me feel like a badass

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« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2013, 01:04:05 pm »
So Musick has a quick tempo?
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« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2013, 03:33:33 pm »
Going to the next 3 games so if y'all are lookin for something specific let me know.

See Paredes is playing 3B today. How's his glove look?
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« Reply #41 on: April 21, 2013, 07:56:33 pm »
See Paredes is playing 3B today. How's his glove look?
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« Reply #42 on: April 21, 2013, 08:47:52 pm »
Paredes credited with 2 errors today.  This game was a lot sloppier than yesterday's - for both teams.  3 errors for both teams.  Wallace, paredes and Krauss all homered.  Oklahoma just outslugged Albuquerque.  This game reminded me of the analogy usually associated to golf - learning how to win ugly.  But it can't be all bad if you're scoring ten runs.  Everyone in the lineup except Jaramillo had hits today. 

Seaton went 4 and a third and I think did better than his line shows.  He kept the ball down well (11 groundouts - 0 fly outs)

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« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2013, 11:27:13 pm »
Can you post a link? I don't do the facebook, but they may let me view your photo page if given a direct link.

How did Wallace look/seem?
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« Reply #44 on: April 22, 2013, 08:45:07 am »
Can you post a link? I don't do the facebook, but they may let me view your photo page if given a direct link.

How did Wallace look/seem?

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« Reply #45 on: April 22, 2013, 09:28:15 am »
Wallace's HR went about 450 - it was a no doubter.  He walked and advanced to second on lin's walk but was picked off due to what I attribute to a berkman like brain fart.  Don't remember the play exactly but I do remember the berkman thought.  He seemed pretty upbeat and had a good attitude.

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« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2013, 04:12:04 pm »
Lyles got lit up again this afternoon.  Any first-hand accounts on what is up?  Almost seems like he is injured or something.
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« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2013, 04:56:47 pm »
Didn't get to go to the game today.  I had to do the work thing.  I really wanted to see lyles throw too.  I'm staying at the same hotel as the team and they've been really nice. 

On a side note - on the C-130, if the apu generator switch is in the "on" position, the aircraft will not let you supply power with a ground power unit.  Now you know

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Seriously though, the few days I got to see this team, I think they're going to win in bunches.  They seem streaky to me.  They were aggressive on the base paths and I liked that a lot. 

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« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2013, 08:23:32 pm »
Lyles got lit up again this afternoon. 

Based on the Astros rotation recent activity it was a big league performance
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« Reply #49 on: April 26, 2013, 04:19:58 pm »
Looks like Rudy Owens is out for foot surgery, too.  Bummer.
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« Reply #50 on: April 28, 2013, 08:40:12 pm »
Villar has been on fire over the past 9 games, recording 2 hits in 8 of those games. During that time, he's hit 4 doubles, a triple, and a HR. He's driven in 8 runners and added a steal, as well. As slowly as he started, though, that stretch has him up to a pedestrian .270/.316/.404 line on the season. But, that's about what we've come to expect, though I'd love for him to prove me wrong. Granted, there is value there if he can play smartly in the field and steal 30 (or so) bases; I just wish he could add more polish at the plate.

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« Reply #51 on: April 28, 2013, 08:50:29 pm »
Villar has been on fire over the past 9 games, recording 2 hits in 8 of those games. During that time, he's hit 4 doubles, a triple, and a HR. He's driven in 8 runners and added a steal, as well. As slowly as he started, though, that stretch has him up to a pedestrian .270/.316/.404 line on the season. But, that's about what we've come to expect, though I'd love for him to prove me wrong. Granted, there is value there if he can play smartly in the field and steal 30 (or so) bases; I just wish he could add more polish at the plate.

I'm not sure I see Villar being a better player than Marwin Gonzalez.

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« Reply #52 on: April 29, 2013, 08:14:14 am »
I'm not sure I see Villar being a better player than Marwin Gonzalez.
Definitely not ... especially in the field.  Villar makes some amazing plays but his carelessness leads to high error totals.
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« Reply #53 on: April 29, 2013, 10:58:59 pm »
Villar has been on fire over the past 9 games, recording 2 hits in 8 of those games. During that time, he's hit 4 doubles, a triple, and a HR. He's driven in 8 runners and added a steal, as well. As slowly as he started, though, that stretch has him up to a pedestrian .270/.316/.404 line on the season. But, that's about what we've come to expect, though I'd love for him to prove me wrong. Granted, there is value there if he can play smartly in the field and steal 30 (or so) bases; I just wish he could add more polish at the plate.

Continues to be locked in going 3-4 in tonight's game with a walk, 2 steals and a triple. Somehow that was just one of four three-baggers for RedHawk players in the game (Nashville had a triple on their side as well).

Oh, and the Sounds' catcher (with perhaps an assist or two from his pitching staff) had a night to forget: a PB (his 6th in just 10 games this season) and OKC ran wild on the basebaths going 6-6 in steal attempts. 

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« Reply #54 on: April 30, 2013, 08:08:56 am »
Definitely not ... especially in the field.  Villar makes some amazing plays but his carelessness leads to high error totals.

The question for me is, "Is that something he can grow out of?"  As long as it seems like he's been around, he still won't turn 22 until later this week.  Realistically, anyone that we put at short is just a placeholder for Correa, but I would like to see what Villar can do if he can maintain his focus.  How has his defense looked this season?

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« Reply #55 on: April 30, 2013, 02:12:33 pm »
The question for me is, "Is that something he can grow out of?"  ...  Realistically, anyone that we put at short is just a placeholder for Correa, but I would like to see what Villar can do if he can maintain his focus.
I do not know whether he can grow out of it, but I know he has not done so yet. And until he does, Marwin is a far better choice as placeholder.


  How has his defense looked this season?
Way too many careless errors.
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« Reply #56 on: May 02, 2013, 11:07:13 am »
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« Reply #57 on: May 03, 2013, 08:04:31 am »
Asher with his AAA debut last night, 4 IP, 3 hits, 1 walk, 1 run, and 5 Ks.  Guess he hasn't realized that the PCL is a hitter's league, yet.  Also, Villar with another big night, going 4-4 on his birthday with a double, HR, 3 runs, 5 RBI, and a steal.  Over the last 10 games, he has 19 hits (.442 average), 4 doubles, 1 triple, 2 HR, 13 RBI, and 5 steals.  His average on the season is up to .314 after hovering in the low .100s for the first few weeks of the season.  Paredes went 3-4 with a triple, raising his average on the season to .376.  Also, of equal importance is his 13/15 BB/K split in 27 games (7/3 over the last 10 games).  It's only 1/5 of the season, but that is a huge improvement for him.

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« Reply #58 on: May 03, 2013, 08:09:37 am »
Asher with his AAA debut last night, 4 IP, 3 hits, 1 walk, 1 run, and 5 Ks.  Guess he hasn't realized that the PCL is a hitter's league, yet.  Also, Villar with another big night, going 4-4 on his birthday with a double, HR, 3 runs, 5 RBI, and a steal.  Over the last 10 games, he has 19 hits (.442 average), 4 doubles, 1 triple, 2 HR, 13 RBI, and 5 steals.  His average on the season is up to .314 after hovering in the low .100s for the first few weeks of the season.  Paredes went 3-4 with a triple, raising his average on the season to .376.  Also, of equal importance is his 13/15 BB/K split in 27 games (7/3 over the last 10 games).  It's only 1/5 of the season, but that is a huge improvement for him.

If Villar and Fontana keep hitting, I wouldn't mind seeing Villar get called up to the bigs and Fontana skip Corpus for OKC.  Assuming Mier is still struggling.

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« Reply #59 on: May 03, 2013, 11:34:08 am »
Asher with his AAA debut last night, 4 IP, 3 hits, 1 walk, 1 run, and 5 Ks.  Guess he hasn't realized that the PCL is a hitter's league, yet.  Also, Villar with another big night, going 4-4 on his birthday with a double, HR, 3 runs, 5 RBI, and a steal.  Over the last 10 games, he has 19 hits (.442 average), 4 doubles, 1 triple, 2 HR, 13 RBI, and 5 steals.  His average on the season is up to .314 after hovering in the low .100s for the first few weeks of the season.  Paredes went 3-4 with a triple, raising his average on the season to .376.  Also, of equal importance is his 13/15 BB/K split in 27 games (7/3 over the last 10 games).  It's only 1/5 of the season, but that is a huge improvement for him.

What position is Paredes playing now? DH?

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« Reply #60 on: May 03, 2013, 12:00:53 pm »
What position is Paredes playing now? DH?
3B last I saw.
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« Reply #61 on: May 06, 2013, 12:22:04 am »
3B last I saw.
Whoop, looks like he played RF tonight. Two more hits and a walk, now up to .376/.444/.596 on the year, including a ridiculous .515 average vs. LHP, who are him up last year. In his last 10 games he's hit .447 with 8 BB and 4 K.

I wonder if they're prepping him to take Ankiel or Fern-Mart's spot on the team.
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« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2013, 10:25:55 am »
Whoop, looks like he played RF tonight. Two more hits and a walk, now up to .376/.444/.596 on the year, including a ridiculous .515 average vs. LHP, who are him up last year. In his last 10 games he's hit .447 with 8 BB and 4 K.

I wonder if they're prepping him to take Ankiel or Fern-Mart's spot on the team.

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« Reply #63 on: May 06, 2013, 10:39:28 am »
No one could take Ankiel's place on this team. 
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« Reply #64 on: May 07, 2013, 09:26:22 pm »
Cosart won't get the start in Houston on Friday, but he's doing his best to force the issue for a promotion. He went 5 2/3 scoreless tonight, striking out 10. He did pitch around trouble, allowing 6 hits and 3 walks, but was able to work out of them with strikeouts and his defense. His ERA now stands at 2.18 on the season and he has 39 K in 33 innings (10.64/9).

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101 pitches in 5 2/3 isn't great, but hopefully, with his groundball tendencies, and if he can continue to cut down on the walks/deep counts, he can turn out a fairly efficient SP.
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101 pitches in 5 2/3 isn't great, but hopefully, with his groundball tendencies, and if he can continue to cut down on the walks/deep counts, he can turn out a fairly efficient SP.

It isn't.  Tacoma has a very good AAA team, but he does need to improve on that (command issue?).  If they hadn't been using the tandem system most of the season, he probably stays a little longer and get 6, but he did allow a single to Zunino before getting pulled, so he did have a shot.  The stuff is there for him to be a frontline pitcher, and the results are starting to match it, but he'll need to give more than 180 IP to reach that.  It is fun to see it coming together, though.

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« Reply #67 on: May 08, 2013, 08:51:56 am »
He was pretty effective last year also, but the BA against and the Ks are definitely up this year.  Anyone seen or heard reports on why?  Based on the progress he made on his delivery and command last year, I wonder if it is simply just further progress on the same front.  All you can get on Milb from OKC is a very unhelpful angle high behind home.

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« Reply #68 on: May 08, 2013, 10:38:51 am »
He was pretty effective last year also, but the BA against and the Ks are definitely up this year.  Anyone seen or heard reports on why?  Based on the progress he made on his delivery and command last year, I wonder if it is simply just further progress on the same front.  All you can get on Milb from OKC is a very unhelpful angle high behind home.

Haven't seen anything.  Last season, I remember that his command was keeping him from getting more strikeouts (threw strikes, but too much in the middle).  Maybe he's getting better at spotting his pitches?  That's my guess, but that's not based on anything concrete.  On a related note, Wojo was holding the gun during Cosart's start and had him sitting 96-97 and hitting 98. 

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« Reply #69 on: May 08, 2013, 10:47:50 am »
Haven't seen anything.  Last season, I remember that his command was keeping him from getting more strikeouts (threw strikes, but too much in the middle).  Maybe he's getting better at spotting his pitches?  That's my guess, but that's not based on anything concrete.  On a related note, Wojo was holding the gun during Cosart's start and had him sitting 96-97 and hitting 98. 

He also hasn't had the blister issues that he ran into a lot last year, so maybe he's gripping the ball better.
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« Reply #70 on: May 08, 2013, 02:31:40 pm »
Villar with a 2-out B9 grand slam to tie up the Tacoma vs. OKC game today.  LINK
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« Reply #71 on: May 08, 2013, 03:53:00 pm »
Villar with a 2-out B9 grand slam to tie up the Tacoma vs. OKC game today.  LINK

It wasn't just a 2 out GS.  There was 2 outs, bottom of the 9th, bases empty and down by 6.   Wow.  And they won in the 10th

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« Reply #72 on: May 08, 2013, 04:14:12 pm »
Villar's last 10 games.  .368, 2 2B, 1 3B, 3 HR, 12 RBI, 7 SB, 0 CS, 1.032 OPS

How has his fielding been?  Hasn't the knock always been, can make great plays but has trouble w/ consistency on the routine stuff?
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Villar's last 10 games.  .368, 2 2B, 1 3B, 3 HR, 12 RBI, 7 SB, 0 CS, 1.032 OPS

How has his fielding been?  Hasn't the knock always been, can make great plays but has trouble w/ consistency on the routine stuff?
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« Reply #74 on: May 08, 2013, 04:51:01 pm »
They had an article linked over at Astros County on Villar.  Didn't mention his defense, but based on what I saw last year (and remember reading also), his sloppiness in the the field is no longer so present.  I suspect you will see some borderline spectacular plays and some boneheaded ones. 

He really seems to have blossomed in the last two years, and just turned 22, so he might still have more upside and a lot of improvement through experience.  I wonder if his recent blossoming was due to dedication on his part, or just the natural progression of a toolsy type. 

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« Reply #75 on: May 09, 2013, 08:15:14 am »
Villar's last 10 games.  .368, 2 2B, 1 3B, 3 HR, 12 RBI, 7 SB, 0 CS, 1.032 OPS

How has his fielding been?  Hasn't the knock always been, can make great plays but has trouble w/ consistency on the routine stuff?


This article addresses your question. http://newsok.com/article/3807357

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« Reply #76 on: May 09, 2013, 08:31:24 am »

This article addresses your question. http://newsok.com/article/3807357

They left out how he broke his hand.  Hopefully, that one was a life lesson and not a character flaw

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« Reply #77 on: May 09, 2013, 08:32:48 am »
Thanks.  I had to read it again to realize there was a second page which addressed his defense.

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« Reply #78 on: May 09, 2013, 08:37:19 am »
Thanks.  I had to read it again to realize there was a second page which addressed his defense.

Yeah I didn't see that either.  And lookee there on page 2 they mention the door that looked at him the wrong way

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« Reply #79 on: May 09, 2013, 08:55:07 am »

This article addresses your question. http://newsok.com/article/3807357

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« Reply #80 on: May 09, 2013, 09:56:34 am »

This article addresses your question. http://newsok.com/article/3807357

Grassyass.  Sounds like he is making progress on the fielding front.

This did stick out.  "But it would be shocking if he isn't handed Houston's starting shortstop job at some point this season, even if it's August or September."

Wildass speculation or did the writer get info from someone w/ the Astros Org.  Or is that just the common assumption at this point?

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« Reply #81 on: May 09, 2013, 10:31:43 am »
Grassyass.  Sounds like he is making progress on the fielding front.

This did stick out.  "But it would be shocking if he isn't handed Houston's starting shortstop job at some point this season, even if it's August or September."

Wildass speculation or did the writer get info from someone w/ the Astros Org.  Or is that just the common assumption at this point?



I think the assumption was based off of neither Marwin or Cedeno would block anybody good coming up.  So if Villar becomes ready why would he not be given the chance? 

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« Reply #82 on: May 09, 2013, 01:40:35 pm »
Wates is headed to OKC, per McTaggart.

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« Reply #83 on: May 10, 2013, 12:38:19 pm »
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« Reply #84 on: May 13, 2013, 08:13:33 am »
OKC lost last night, 9-3, but had a 3-1 lead going into the 8th.  Cosart contributed the first 6 innings, allowing 1 run on 2 hits and 3 walks against 4 strikeouts.  His ERA for the season now stands proudly at 2.08 with a WHIP of 1.13 and 9.9 K/9.  The walk rate could be better, 3.9/9, but the bump in strikeouts this season does help. 

At this point, I'm wondering what's keeping him down.  Does the club want him to cut down on the walks?  Are they concerned that he didn't pitch that many innings last season (114) and want to keep it under control (though, the MLB team has been a pretty safe place to limit innings this season)?  Surely, they don't see Gonzales as a better option at this point.

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Prettty sure they want to see better control on that walk rate, otherwise MLB hitters will force him to pitch from behind.
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OKC lost last night, 9-3, but had a 3-1 lead going into the 8th.  Cosart contributed the first 6 innings, allowing 1 run on 2 hits and 3 walks against 4 strikeouts.  His ERA for the season now stands proudly at 2.08 with a WHIP of 1.13 and 9.9 K/9.  The walk rate could be better, 3.9/9, but the bump in strikeouts this season does help. 

At this point, I'm wondering what's keeping him down.  Does the club want him to cut down on the walks?  Are they concerned that he didn't pitch that many innings last season (114) and want to keep it under control (though, the MLB team has been a pretty safe place to limit innings this season)?  Surely, they don't see Gonzales as a better option at this point.
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« Reply #87 on: May 13, 2013, 08:49:51 am »
Prettty sure they want to see better control on that walk rate, otherwise MLB hitters will force him to pitch from behind.
Curious about the BP thing and Luhnow's talk (or any other org people).  Did they talk about some of the guys in the minors and if so, did you get a feel about whether they communicate things in numbers or in other ways?  For example, would they say "Cosart needs to get his BB rate down before he is ready", or do they say something without numbers such as "until he can consistently throw strikes with his fastball, we don't think he is ready?"

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« Reply #88 on: May 13, 2013, 09:01:47 am »
Prettty sure they want to see better control on that walk rate, otherwise MLB hitters will force him to pitch from behind.

I've been watching his pitches per inning this year and have noticed he's done a pretty good job of keeping the pitch count to about 15/inning.  He was at 92/6 yesterday.  Location of the pitches is another story.  I have no idea if they are strikes on the edges or if his stuff is just better than AAA hitters.
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I read someone speculate about super two status, and that might be what holds him back.  My head spins when I try to understand who would qualify for super two status, but I had always assumed it was reserved for elite players.  I suppose it is possible, but it doesn't seem likely that he will be anywhere near that good.


The Super Two thing isn't performance/talent based, simply number of days on the MLB roster. So I'd bet that is a consideration, although certainly giving him proper seasoning in AAA before bringing him up to an awful team seems wise regardless.
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« Reply #90 on: May 13, 2013, 10:44:38 am »
The Super Two thing isn't performance/talent based, simply number of days on the MLB roster. So I'd bet that is a consideration, although certainly giving him proper seasoning in AAA before bringing him up to an awful team seems wise regardless.
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« Reply #91 on: May 13, 2013, 11:03:51 am »
The Super Two thing isn't performance/talent based, simply number of days on the MLB roster. So I'd bet that is a consideration, although certainly giving him proper seasoning in AAA before bringing him up to an awful team seems wise regardless.

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A player with at least two but less than three years of Major League service shall be eligible for salary arbitration if he has accumulated at least 86 days of service during the immediately preceding season and he ranks in the top 22 percent (increased from 17 percent in previous agreements) in total service in the class of Players who have at least two but less than three years of Major League service, however accumulated, but with at least 86 days of service accumulated during the immediately preceding season.

So, it's a game of chicken until July.  Including last year, he's pitched in 14 games at AAA, so we wouldn't be rushing him in that sense.  Will he benefit from additional time at that level?  I don't know.  The combined results have been great: 2.30 ERA, 1.245 WHIP, 9.0 K/9, but I haven't seen him in person or read reports from those who have. 

If he is ready and arbitration status isn't a factor, I wouldn't hold him back just because the team is bad.  He's going to have his bumps regardless of the amount of seasoning at AAA he receives, I wouldn't hold him back just so he can take his lumps at the same time as the rest of the future core.

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« Reply #92 on: May 13, 2013, 11:11:38 am »
It is a game of chicken for teams that are winning and need the help from their farm system to compete for the playoffs.   I just don't see a compelling reason to bring him up and risk the super 2 status.
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« Reply #93 on: May 13, 2013, 11:13:04 am »
I assume it does, but does bringing a player up after the rosters expand in September effect their MLB service time the same as it does pre expanding the rosters?
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« Reply #94 on: May 13, 2013, 11:50:46 am »
Curious about the BP thing and Luhnow's talk (or any other org people).  Did they talk about some of the guys in the minors and if so, did you get a feel about whether they communicate things in numbers or in other ways?  For example, would they say "Cosart needs to get his BB rate down before he is ready", or do they say something without numbers such as "until he can consistently throw strikes with his fastball, we don't think he is ready?"

He was mentioned in an aggregate, just about players on the horizon. The BP guys said that Springer's power tool is real, and that in ST they knew he was hitting by the sound of the ball coming off the bat.

There was a discussion about command, and not only can I not remember exactly who said it but I don't remember exactly if it was about Cosart in particular, but there was discussion about high minor league walk rates expanding in the majors because the hitters are much better and more selective.

Not much was mentioned in the way of hard numbers. There was a question about evaluation metrics and projections vis-a-vis high school players who didn't face consistent competition. Luhnow / Goldstein said that the team had a proprietary projection system (probably all teams do) and that high schoolers are mostly judged by the high-level combine-style tournaments and series of games that they have in the fall. That's their best time to evaluate players against higher level competition and get eyes on them.

Luhnow said that they now have a consistent program in place through all levels that not only teaches the same concepts but they have many more metrics and observations throughout the levels that engage the players and the coaches in development. He mentioned specifically that every night a pitcher is charting pitches, location, swings, misses, hits, etc. from the stands and not only does that give the player insights, it provides them with significantly more data to work with than they had before.
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« Reply #95 on: May 13, 2013, 12:17:55 pm »
Thanks.

I'd also assume pitchers tend to nibble more in the majors because hitters can hurt them more there.

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« Reply #96 on: May 15, 2013, 09:58:54 am »
Good outings by Asher Woj and Valdez last night.
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« Reply #97 on: May 16, 2013, 10:54:12 pm »
Fern-Mart is playing for the Redhawks tonight. Guess nobody else wanted to take a flyer.
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« Reply #98 on: May 21, 2013, 11:09:21 am »
Asher Woj got roughed up pretty bad by Fresno last night. Humber also appeared.
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« Reply #99 on: May 21, 2013, 11:22:09 am »
Asher Woj got roughed up pretty bad by Fresno last night. Humber also appeared.

I'll give them a pass last night; it had to have been hard for them to play.

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« Reply #100 on: May 21, 2013, 11:59:18 am »
No kidding.  I'm surprised the game wasn't canceled.
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« Reply #101 on: May 21, 2013, 02:25:15 pm »
No kidding.  I'm surprised the game wasn't canceled.

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« Reply #102 on: June 11, 2013, 11:24:27 am »
Wow. Three weeks without a post on the OKC thread...

Grossman had quite a night last night. 3-for-4 with 2 doubles, a triple, a walk, and a steal (plus a CS). His first multi-hit game in the 9 he's played since his demotion, although he has walked 8 times, unsurprisingly, and scored 8 runs.

Krauss hit his 9th HR and is up to .280/.409/.511 for the year, with almost identical splits vs. L/RHP.

Villar hit his 5th HR; he's been hot - .385 BA in June - and is at .276/.328/.425 on the year, and 19/25 in steals. Maybe he'll never get on base enough to be a major-league leadoff man, but if he can come close to those numbers and play good defense, he'd be a nice asset, bringing speed and a little pop. He's a switch-hitter but has done poorly vs. LHP this year, .200/.259/.267 as opposed to .314/.361/.503 vs. RHP. Also, bizarrely, he's done really crappy on the road, .550 OPS vs. .990 at home. I haven't heard Bricktown is a big-time hitters' park, so I wonder what the deal is there.
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« Reply #103 on: June 17, 2013, 09:13:35 am »
Singleton made his AAA debut last noght going 2 for 4 with a couple of doubles and a k.  Wallace DH'ed.  

Villar with 2 solo shots going 3 for 5.  He's having a really good June so far.  (As Reuben stated last week in the post right before this one) his splits are interesting.  He dominates right handers and is completely lost against lefties.  OPS 897 verus 541.  Cedeno has an equally outrageous split going the other way 356 versus 1007.  Perhaps a platoon might be in order?  



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« Reply #104 on: June 17, 2013, 09:19:12 am »
Looks like Singleton is on the fast track. If he had laid off the weed, he would probably be in the majors and Pena would be retired.
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« Reply #105 on: June 17, 2013, 09:26:42 am »
Singleton made his AAA debut last noght going 2 for 4 with a couple of doubles and a k.  Wallace DH'ed. 

Villar with 2 solo shots going 3 for 5.  He's having a really good June so far.  Also interesting are his splits.  He dominates right handers and is completely lost against lefties.  OPS 897 verus 541.  Cedeno has an equally outrageous split going the other way 356 versus 1007.  Perhaps a platoon might be in order? 




You didn't see the whole paragraph I wrote about Villar and his splits in the post directly above yours?
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« Reply #106 on: June 17, 2013, 09:28:29 am »
You didn't see the whole paragraph I wrote about Villar and his splits in the post directly above yours?

Sorry, missed it.  (fixed it)
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« Reply #107 on: June 17, 2013, 10:07:51 am »
Villar hit his 5th HR; he's been hot - .385 BA in June - and is at .276/.328/.425 on the year, and 19/25 in steals. Maybe he'll never get on base enough to be a major-league leadoff man, but if he can come close to those numbers and play good defense, he'd be a nice asset, bringing speed and a little pop. He's a switch-hitter but has done poorly vs. LHP this year, .200/.259/.267 as opposed to .314/.361/.503 vs. RHP. Also, bizarrely, he's done really crappy on the road, .550 OPS vs. .990 at home. I haven't heard Bricktown is a big-time hitters' park, so I wonder what the deal is there.

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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #108 on: June 17, 2013, 10:15:33 am »
Looks like Singleton is on the fast track. If he had laid off the weed, he would probably be in the majors and Pena would be retired.

I doubt that, Luhnow has made it clear they dont want to risk super 2 status on guys at this point.


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« Reply #109 on: June 17, 2013, 10:31:40 am »
Sorry, missed it.  (fixed it)
No worries, I just thought it was funny.

Interesting that the article MM linked says he had very even splits (at least BA-wise) in 2011 and '12. Wonder if he's got a minor injury that hinders his RH swing this year, or what. And the home/road thing is just bizarre.
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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #110 on: June 19, 2013, 10:11:43 am »
Thoughts on June performances ...

Who's Hot
   Brett Wallace (.344/.400/.547) has been raking, but may see reduction in PT with Singleton's return to AAA
   Jonathan Villar (.321/.371/.500 with 3HR and 9SB against 0CS)
   Asher Wojciechowski (1-0, 1.45 and 20K in 18.2IP)
   Brad Peacock (1-0, 0.73 and 9:1 K:BB ratio in 12.1IP)

Who's Not
   Robbie Grossman (.170/.274/.264 with 18K in 65PA)
   Ross Seaton (0-2, 11.81 4:9 K:BB in 10.2IP and a 2.4+WHIP)
   Brett Oberholtzer (1-2, 7.41)

What's New

Singleton will likely take over at 1B pushing Wallace to DH and Krauss to DH/OF.  Jake Elmore has seen time in LF too as Jose Martinez splits time between 3B & 2B.  Odd man out appears to be super-util Simunic.
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« Reply #111 on: June 19, 2013, 10:16:55 am »
Thoughts on June performances ...

Who's Hot
   Brett Wallace (.344/.400/.547) has been raking, but may see reduction in PT with Singleton's return to AAA
   Jonathan Villar (.321/.371/.500 with 3HR and 9SB against 0CS)
   Asher Wojciechowski (1-0, 1.45 and 20K in 18.2IP)
   Brad Peacock (1-0, 0.73 and 9:1 K:BB ratio in 12.1IP)

Who's Not
   Robbie Grossman (.170/.274/.264 with 18K in 65PA)
   Ross Seaton (0-2, 11.81 4:9 K:BB in 10.2IP and a 2.4+WHIP)
   Brett Oberholtzer (1-2, 7.41)

What's New

Singleton will likely take over at 1B pushing Wallace to DH and Krauss to DH/OF.  Jake Elmore has seen time in LF too as Jose Martinez splits time between 3B & 2B.  Odd man out appears to be super-util Simunic.

Odd man out is F-Mart

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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #112 on: June 19, 2013, 10:28:55 am »
WTHB interviews Cosart


Apparantly he went into the season looking to get better control of his secondary pitches, which he has succeeded doing, but lost control of his fastball in the process.  Doh

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« Reply #113 on: June 19, 2013, 10:35:10 am »
Thoughts on June performances ...

Who's Hot
   Brett Wallace (.344/.400/.547) has been raking, but may see reduction in PT with Singleton's return to AAA
   Jonathan Villar (.321/.371/.500 with 3HR and 9SB against 0CS)
   Asher Wojciechowski (1-0, 1.45 and 20K in 18.2IP)
   Brad Peacock (1-0, 0.73 and 9:1 K:BB ratio in 12.1IP)

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   Robbie Grossman (.170/.274/.264 with 18K in 65PA)
   Ross Seaton (0-2, 11.81 4:9 K:BB in 10.2IP and a 2.4+WHIP)
   Brett Oberholtzer (1-2, 7.41)

What's New

Singleton will likely take over at 1B pushing Wallace to DH and Krauss to DH/OF.  Jake Elmore has seen time in LF too as Jose Martinez splits time between 3B & 2B.  Odd man out appears to be super-util Simunic.

Seaton has been bad all season.  May was easily his best month, but he still had a 5.68 ERA.  He's still only 23, but you gotta wonder how much longer he'll be on the club.

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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #114 on: June 19, 2013, 10:45:14 am »
Odd man out is F-Mart
He was already getting limited PT.  Simunic was the more-or-less regular RFer and with Singleton & Paredes joining, he is losing PT.

ETA:  Just noticed that Simunic has been placed on the DL, so that probably explains his lack of PT.
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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #115 on: June 19, 2013, 02:57:18 pm »
WTHB interview with Cosart: LINK
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« Reply #116 on: June 19, 2013, 07:30:55 pm »
Seems like a bright, personable fellow.

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« Reply #117 on: June 19, 2013, 08:03:52 pm »
WTHB interview with Cosart: LINK

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« Reply #118 on: June 19, 2013, 09:02:07 pm »
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« Reply #119 on: June 20, 2013, 09:31:10 pm »
Excellent line for Cosart tonight: 6.0 IP, 0 R, 0 BB, 8 SO  (BOX SCORE)

And Wallace has upped his average to .325.
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« Reply #120 on: June 21, 2013, 06:45:48 am »
Excellent line for Cosart tonight: 6.0 IP, 0 R, 0 BB, 8 SO

Wish he didn't throw >100 pitches in 6 innings.  He could last longer on the hill.
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« Reply #121 on: June 21, 2013, 08:48:54 am »
Wish he didn't throw >100 pitches in 6 innings.  He could last longer on the hill.

In his defense, he did manage to pitch around three fielding errors.

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« Reply #122 on: June 22, 2013, 02:40:23 pm »
Asher Woj goes eight innings last night with a hundred plus pitches. Looks like he might be the first call up if the big club needs a starter.
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Re: Oklahoma City - 2013
« Reply #123 on: June 23, 2013, 07:24:23 pm »
Brady Rodgers throwing for OKC tonight.  (in the second half of a double header)

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« Reply #124 on: June 23, 2013, 08:39:12 pm »
Brady Rodgers throwing for OKC tonight.  (in the second half of a double header)

Excellent start from Rodgers: 5.0 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 4 SO, 0 HR (72 pitches, 50 strikes). BOX SCORE
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« Reply #125 on: June 23, 2013, 10:30:42 pm »
Brady Rodgers throwing for OKC tonight.  (in the second half of a double header)

Promotion only to help out with extra games; will go back soon. Way to make an impression, though.

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« Reply #126 on: June 28, 2013, 10:06:44 pm »
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That was in game 2 of a double header. He got his first Triple-A hit (a double) in game 1.
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« Reply #127 on: July 01, 2013, 09:45:01 pm »
Springer hit HR 21 (#2 for OKC) in the 5th inning, and is 1-2, 2BB, SO through 7 tonight. BOX SCORE
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« Reply #128 on: July 02, 2013, 06:57:25 am »
Springer hit HR 21 (#2 for OKC) in the 5th inning, and is 1-2, 2BB, SO through 7 tonight. BOX SCORE

Plus, steal #25 (#2 at OKC). A 30-30 season looks pretty favorable, if not 30-40.

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« Reply #129 on: July 06, 2013, 06:25:28 pm »
Plus, steal #25 (#2 at OKC). A 30-30 season looks pretty favorable, if not 30-40.

Just hit his 22nd HR.  Per OKC broadcaster Alex Friedman (via Twitter):

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« Reply #130 on: July 06, 2013, 07:21:33 pm »
Make that his 23rd HR (4 at OKC).

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« Reply #131 on: July 07, 2013, 09:12:13 pm »
in his first 11 games at OKC, Springer has SO 1/3 of his official ABs and still is batting .378 with a .700+ slugging.  4 steals in 5 attempts. 4 HRs.

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« Reply #132 on: July 08, 2013, 09:38:37 pm »
Wojciechowski with a complete game 1 hitter against the Express tonight.  1 walk and 5 Ks

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« Reply #133 on: July 08, 2013, 09:40:57 pm »
Wojo with the organization's most dominate pitching performance of the year, throwing a 1-hitter with 1 walk, striking out 5. Mike Olt spoiled the perfect game in the 6th, but was ultimately erased on a double play. The only other runner was a walk with 1 out in the 8th, but was erased on a double play, also. So, 27 batters faced, 27 outs. Fantastic job.

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« Reply #134 on: July 08, 2013, 10:01:51 pm »
97 pitch CG. nice
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« Reply #135 on: July 08, 2013, 10:10:19 pm »
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« Reply #136 on: July 08, 2013, 10:38:42 pm »
I've never seen Wojo live, so I took the opportunity to mosey over there to see him pitch.

His fastball is pretty straight, generally sits low 90s, but occasionally reaches mid 90s.  Occasionally.  He commands it very well, as he does all of his pitches.  He uses his slider and change quite a bit.  Change has good deception, but little fade.  Slider is consistent, but lacks great bite.  Generally, that is, as he threw some nice ones.  Very consistent with it: no real hangers and lots of strikes with it.  Change seems like the go to pitch against lefties and uses FB/slider against righties.  Not exclusively, but mainly.  

Overall, a quality pitcher with average to decent stuff.  He might make it as is, but if he could make his slider or change into a real plus pitch, his chances to make it or succeed improve greatly, IMO.  I don't know his past, so I don't know how likely that is.  

Other observations:

Springer and Singleton generally looked fine.  Was a little worried about Singleton's stats, but not now.

Got to see a true submariner with about a 6:30 slot that struck out Laird and Springer on 7 pitches (Springer took one), then he struck out the little lefty, Sosa.  I really wanted to see Singleton face him, but he didn't make it.

Manny is short, way shorter than I thought.  However, he is still is the best hitter on that team, and the only one who gave Wojo trouble.  Doubt he will be much in the majors, but also doubt he would embarrass himself either. His second AB, Wojo threw him about 7 straight FBs, that Manny was late on but fouled off.  Wojo went to a slider and Manny flew out to center.  Manny took the first pitch to the left field wall in his last AB.  I think it was a change.  Manny got something of a standing O for that AB.

Oh, forgot to mention that as Singleton was walking to the plate, they were playing "Eight Miles High."  It was really due to Maxwell just popping out on a high foul ball, but I laughed.
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« Reply #137 on: July 09, 2013, 12:40:05 am »
Wojciechowski with a complete game 1 hitter against the Express tonight.  1 walk and 5 Ks

The MiLB.com game story on the performance.
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« Reply #138 on: July 09, 2013, 07:36:24 pm »
Springer with another HR, 2 run shot in the 1st.  Now batting 390, with 5 HR, 12 RBI in 41 AB, 13 Ks &BB
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« Reply #139 on: July 09, 2013, 07:55:53 pm »
This guy is consistent, another 2 run homer in his second AB
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« Reply #140 on: July 09, 2013, 08:13:03 pm »
This guy is consistent, another 2 run homer in his second AB

Looking forward to hearing the report on him from the AA group meeting at the Dell Diamond tonight!
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« Reply #141 on: July 09, 2013, 08:49:42 pm »
Looking forward to hearing the report on him from the AA group meeting at the Dell Diamond tonight!

Unfortunately the Express are up by a field goal

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« Reply #142 on: July 09, 2013, 09:05:55 pm »
I guess that's why LeBlanc was cut by a team as bad as the Astros.

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« Reply #143 on: July 09, 2013, 09:20:38 pm »
This guy is consistent, another 2 run homer in his second AB

Seems to be slacking off now...only a 3B this time. How disappointing.
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« Reply #144 on: July 09, 2013, 11:17:13 pm »
His two HRs were absolute shots. One cleared the 375 sign and landed on the germ, just shy of the scoreboard. The other landed on top of the green barn in dead center. The triple was a frozen rope to right center.

We didn't see the radar gun display until after both homers so I can't speak to what, if anything, was on the pitches, but the first was a FB, I believe.

Singleton had a pretty rough AB late against a submariner.

Oh, and Leblanc didn't show much. At all.

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« Reply #145 on: July 10, 2013, 08:43:22 am »
MiLB Article with second homerun replay

Guessing that triple should have been scored a double taking third on the throw home.

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« Reply #146 on: July 10, 2013, 02:29:40 pm »
Talk Zone LINK to addition discussion of Springer's 2 HR, 3B night..
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« Reply #148 on: July 10, 2013, 08:14:44 pm »
And.... another homer from Springer after getting walked in his 1st AB.  7 HRs, 46 At Bats.
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« Reply #149 on: July 11, 2013, 08:12:17 am »
VB,  they said that Peacock has been working on a two-seam fastball.  Any observations?  Even if there was no noticable movement, could you tell how often they squared up his fastball?  IMO, having a fastball that is too easy to square seems to be what is holding him back.

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« Reply #150 on: July 11, 2013, 10:39:46 am »
It really is encouraging how well Peacock has done in OKC. Notably, he's held LHB (.150) to a lower average than righties (.265), whereas in his MLB time this year, he held RHB to a .224 BA, .286 OBP but lefties lit him up at .344 BA/.447 OBP. Maybe he's mixing in a changeup more, or the new two-seamer riding in on lefties?
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« Reply #151 on: July 11, 2013, 11:34:24 am »
VB,  they said that Peacock has been working on a two-seam fastball.  Any observations?  Even if there was no noticable movement, could you tell how often they squared up his fastball?  IMO, having a fastball that is too easy to square seems to be what is holding him back.
Yes ... I was getting around to my report, and this figures in it.  See also http://www.spikesnstars.com/forums/index.php?topic=115857.0 where I posted some thoughts as the game progressed.

After watching Peacock last night, I was a bit surprised to see only one BB in the box score this morning.  He took 53 pitches to get through the first two innings, and seemed to run every batter to a 3:2 count.  He did settle down some by the 3rd or 4th, and appeared to get both stronger and more accurate as the game progressed. I am not the best at pitch recognition, but he seemed to have 4 basic pitches.

His "straight fastball" (probably a 4-seamer?) had almost no movement, but sat at 94-95 early and reached 96 several times in the 6th inning.  It was often thrown for a strike and often hit hard (though sometimes foul). 

He also had a somewhat slower pitch, probably the 2-seamer you refer to, that sat at 92-93 and had obvious movement.  Very few batters were squaring it up, but that was partly because it was wild ... outside (to LHB) and/or high on a regular basis.

My guess watching him was that the two pitches above were used about equally and constituted 70-80% of his offerings.

He also threw a pitch in the high 80's that I guessed was a slider.  It had some movement, but mostly seemed to be used to set up the FB ... Carlos usually set up outside, and that is where the pitch ended up.  This was different than the ?2-seamer? which often had Carlos reaching for it.

The last pitch was (I think) a straight change ... it did not have much "curve" action that I could see, and ranged in speeds from about 75 to 83.  He got a lot of missed bats on that one, especially from LHB.

My general sense was that he struggled some with control and got a little lucky on some hard-hit balls ... only one really great defensive play (by Marwin) but a lot of fortunate fielder placement.

The one outstanding defensive play saw Marwin charge across in front of 2B to barehand a slow chopper and gun a fast runner out at 1B by an eyelash.  Everything else was solid but routine.

I shared most of my impressions of Springer and Singleton at the plate in the other thread.  Briefly, Springer looked very good against Richmond (the starter) ... waiting out a 4-pitch walk in the first including a couple of close pitches and hammering a long HR in the third.  He was fooled in the 6th by one of Richmond's slow curves for strike 3.  Richmond essentially had two pitches - a 92-94mph FB and a 75-78 curve with only a rare offering somewhere in between.  Justin Miller came on in the 7th and was more of a fastball/slider pitcher.  Springer walked in his first appearance against him, watching a strike 2 FB catch the bottom of the zone, but having the discipline to take ball 4 on the next pitch in almost the same spot.  He then looked bad of the only time last night in his final appearance, missing badly on strikes 2 & 3, both sliders away.

Singleton looked bad against Richmond, facing a steady diet of slow curves that seemed to baffle him.  He finally made contact in the 6th with a sharply hit grounder to 2B.  He looked much better against Miller ... swinging with authority and hitting the ball hard.

In other offensive observations, Ruben Sosa is small.  Only about 1.1 Altuves.  He is also very fast.  He beat out an infield hit and stole two bases (though the umpire at second blew the call on the first one).  He seemed to have a good approach at the plate, too.  Justin Maxwell did not have a great night, but nothing really stood out about his ABs.  Marwin sliced a double down the LF line but hit a frozen rope for a single later in the game.  Grossman looked good in general, but his HR was a DellDiamond(tm) high fly to left.  Laird, on the other hand, hammered one to almost straight-away center for the last two runs.
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« Reply #152 on: July 11, 2013, 01:24:16 pm »
Thanks.  Peacock is somewhat tantalizing as he has talent but the whole is less than the sum of parts.  At least from what I've seen in the past. 

I wonder if they view him as a possible late inning reliever.  Maybe his mix might work well in one-inning bursts.

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« Reply #153 on: July 11, 2013, 03:31:51 pm »
From what I remember of Peacock with the Astros back in April, his curve had some serious bend to it... okay, I went and looked up what BA said about him before this season in their writeup of A's prospects (he was #4):

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...Peacock pitched up in the zone too frequently in 2012. The A’s tried to remedy the issue by having him keep his shoulders more level and eliminate a tilt in his delivery, but the changes didn’t have the desired effect and he went back to his old mechanics. When he’s going well, he still shows three quality pitches. Peacock’s fastball works at 91-95 mph but lacks movement, underscoring the need for better command. He also flashes a sharp curveball and a changeup with depth. He has added a slider/cutter hybrid to help induce weak contact, but it remains a work in progress. The A’s consider 2012 a transition year for Peacock, who may have put too much pressure on himself while a parade of other young pitchers made it to Oakland.

Sounds, from this and VB's report, like he's still working on this "slider/cutter hybrid", and possibly the Astros have told him to put the curve aside for a while and focus on that?
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« Reply #154 on: July 12, 2013, 09:20:25 pm »
Anyone knows what has happened to villar? 

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« Reply #155 on: July 12, 2013, 11:15:20 pm »
Anyone knows what has happened to villar? 
No clue, can't find anything.

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« Reply #156 on: July 12, 2013, 11:18:13 pm »
Springer was 2-for-6 with a double.

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« Reply #157 on: July 14, 2013, 11:44:58 am »
Anyone know why Springer wasn't in the lineup last night?

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« Reply #158 on: July 14, 2013, 12:02:57 pm »
Anyone know why Springer wasn't in the lineup last night?


Probably on a plane to the Futures Game.

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« Reply #159 on: July 14, 2013, 10:42:58 pm »
Singleton was 1 for 3 with a homer, 2 walks, and no strikeouts today. Nice to see. I think he'll get it going pretty soon.

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« Reply #160 on: July 15, 2013, 03:20:59 pm »
Singleton was 1 for 3 with a homer, 2 walks, and no strikeouts today. Nice to see. I think he'll get it going pretty soon.

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« Reply #161 on: July 25, 2013, 10:13:09 pm »
Word coming out of OKC that Marwin Gonzalez may hve been traded. Pulled out of a game according to their play-by-play man that speculates he is leaving town.

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« Reply #162 on: July 25, 2013, 10:44:31 pm »
Word coming out of OKC that Marwin Gonzalez may hve been traded. Pulled out of a game according to their play-by-play man that speculates he is leaving town.

He was never listed in the box score.  Anything that happened, happened before lineups were exchanged.  That was hours ago.  Paredes played short tonight.
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« Reply #163 on: July 26, 2013, 10:01:16 am »
Paredes played short tonight.

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« Reply #164 on: July 26, 2013, 10:38:09 am »
That must have been entertaining.

While his defense is brutal in the outfield, my recollection was that he is serviceable (at least) at 2B, 3B, and SS. Or perhaps I'm misremembering...
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« Reply #165 on: July 26, 2013, 10:39:13 am »
That must have been entertaining.
I just did a quick scan of the game summary. Paredes handled a line-out, DP pivot, couple of 6-4s, and allowed an IF single. Not much action for a 2-1 12-inning loss.

Buchanan threw 7 nice innings. Has a 3.19 so far with OKC.
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« Reply #166 on: July 26, 2013, 10:48:40 am »
Have we seen anything about Marwin?

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« Reply #167 on: July 26, 2013, 10:49:52 am »
Have we seen anything about Marwin?

Nothing on his twitter.  He seemed to forecast his demotion on there last month, but nothing on there today.
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« Reply #168 on: July 26, 2013, 11:37:40 am »
While his defense is brutal in the outfield, my recollection was that he is serviceable (at least) at 2B, 3B, and SS. Or perhaps I'm misremembering...
He hasn't played SS since his early Yankee days, IIRC. 3B and 2B defense plagued by stoney hands, wild throws, and poor decisions, but other than that he's a great infielder.
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« Reply #169 on: July 26, 2013, 09:28:03 pm »
He hasn't played SS since his early Yankee days, IIRC. 3B and 2B defense plagued by stoney hands, wild throws, and poor decisions, but other than that he's a great infielder.
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« Reply #170 on: July 27, 2013, 06:31:59 pm »
David Rollins making a spot start tonight. Brett Oberholtzer was scheduled to start, but he's in Canada right now.

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« Reply #171 on: July 27, 2013, 08:07:37 pm »
David Rollins making a spot start tonight.
Rollins retired the first 9 hitters he faced tonight in his AAA debut, 6 by whiffs. Has a 1-hitter through 4 IP. The kid's been discussed some in the Lancaster thread, but still didn't realize he had a .172 BAA while pitching away from The Hanger this season. Very cool.

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« Reply #172 on: July 27, 2013, 08:46:53 pm »
Springer gets his 28th HR of the season the hard way, hitting an inside-the-park shot to left-center. With 32 steals, going 30-30 is just a matter of time, barring an unforeseen promotion.

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« Reply #173 on: July 27, 2013, 10:56:01 pm »
Rollins had himself a night, eh?

6 shutout innings, 3 singles, a walk, and 8 strikeouts.

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Springer gets his 28th HR of the season the hard way, hitting an inside-the-park shot to left-center. With 32 steals, going 30-30 is just a matter of time, barring an unforeseen promotion.

Here is the video:  http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=29212563&sid=milb

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« Reply #176 on: July 28, 2013, 08:02:48 pm »
George Springer is at it again.

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« Reply #177 on: July 30, 2013, 10:23:23 am »
Singleton now hitting .196 in AAA.  61 Ks in 42 games.
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« Reply #178 on: July 30, 2013, 10:26:09 am »
Singleton now hitting .196 in AAA.  61 Ks in 42 games.

Will be interesting to see where he starts next year.  He was all but inked in to a starting spot for 2014, in my opinion, but with Wallace/Carter I wouldn't be surprised if they start him in OKC.

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« Reply #179 on: July 30, 2013, 10:34:09 am »
He has some time left to get back on track, but him being called up this year and being the leading candidate to start at 1st base next year seems to be slipping away.
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« Reply #180 on: July 30, 2013, 10:39:34 am »
He has some time left to get back on track, but him being called up this year and being the leading candidate to start at 1st base next year seems to be slipping away.

At least before September.  Since he lost time, I see him either spending September in Houston or getting ready for the AFL.  I don't think his season will end when AAA is finished, either way.

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« Reply #181 on: July 30, 2013, 11:11:37 am »
Isn't it time for Springer to move up? There is nothing left for him to do at AAA.
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« Reply #182 on: July 30, 2013, 11:43:49 am »
Isn't it time for Springer to move up? There is nothing left for him to do at AAA.

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« Reply #183 on: July 30, 2013, 11:53:40 am »
Isn't it time for Springer to move up? There is nothing left for him to do at AAA.

If it's me I don't start his clock now. I'd give him a September call-up instead.
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« Reply #184 on: July 30, 2013, 12:32:30 pm »
If it's me I don't start his clock now. I'd give him a September call-up instead.

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« Reply #185 on: July 30, 2013, 01:58:49 pm »
If it's me I don't start his clock now. I'd give him a September call-up instead.
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« Reply #186 on: July 30, 2013, 02:15:25 pm »
If it's me I don't start his clock now. I'd give him a September call-up instead.
Which would also preserve his Rookie of the Year eligibility for 2014. The Astros could use something like that to re-energize the fanbase.
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« Reply #187 on: July 30, 2013, 02:19:42 pm »
If it's me I don't start his clock now. I'd give him a September call-up instead.

Curious, what impact does the ~25 days make?  He would still be arbitration eligible at the same time if they called him up next week vs Sep 1.
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« Reply #188 on: July 30, 2013, 02:47:14 pm »
Curious, what impact does the ~25 days make?  He would still be arbitration eligible at the same time if they called him up next week vs Sep 1.

IIRC September doesn't count against certain aspects of this.
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« Reply #189 on: July 30, 2013, 02:49:20 pm »
It does.  Except for ROY, and even so unless he got 130 ABs he would still be eligible.
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« Reply #190 on: July 30, 2013, 02:51:54 pm »
If Springer is called up tomorrow or Sept 5th, wouldn't make a difference on when he'd be arbitration eligible or when he could become a free agent.
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« Reply #191 on: July 30, 2013, 02:59:04 pm »
My guess is that Springer would gladly give up his 2014 ROY eligibility if he could get called up now. If it is important to him, he can sit at the end of the year if he is running up on 130 ABs. Before they can get the fan base revved up, they need to have a fan base and for that they need a TV presence.
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« Reply #192 on: July 30, 2013, 03:17:09 pm »
FYI

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So if called up for tomorrows game, he would need to play in every game in August and average 4.33 at bats to eliminate him from ROY contention in 2014.
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« Reply #193 on: July 30, 2013, 03:41:14 pm »
FYI

Determining rookie status:
A player shall be considered a rookie unless, during a previous season or seasons, he has (a) exceeded 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the Major Leagues; or (b) accumulated more than 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club or clubs during the period of 25-player limit (excluding time in the military service and time on the disabled list).

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So if called up for tomorrows game, he would need to play in every game in August and average 4.33 at bats to eliminate him from ROY contention in 2014.

The way I read that, the days of service criterion ignores September, but the 130 ABs criterion doesn't. Since there are fewer than 45 days left before the period of 25-player limit expires (i.e., before September starts), that's not an issue. But there are still 58 games left, so it would be quite easy for him to exceed 130 ABs if you bring him up in early August.
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« Reply #194 on: July 30, 2013, 03:45:27 pm »
I believe you are right on the AB thing.
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« Reply #195 on: August 03, 2013, 07:30:20 pm »
Saw that Singleton was up with the bases full, and he has shown some life lately, so I decided to tune and see.  He absolutely smoked a liner over the right field fence. The announcers said HRs there are not common.  Quite impressive.

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« Reply #196 on: August 03, 2013, 11:10:37 pm »
Saw that Singleton was up with the bases full, and he has shown some life lately, so I decided to tune and see.  He absolutely smoked a liner over the right field fence. The announcers said HRs there are not common.  Quite impressive.

Good performances from Singleton, Springer, and Laird:

“@azfreedman: Some totals from tonight. Laird: 3x4, HR, 2 2B, 7 RBI; Singleton: 3x5, GS, 2B, 5 RBI; Springer: 2x4, 3B, 4 RBI, 5 R.”

HOWEVER, what caught my eye in OKCs 24 runs is that 14 of them were UNEARNED. That has to be a record, no?!?   BOX SCORE
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« Reply #197 on: August 04, 2013, 12:32:25 am »
HOWEVER, what caught my eye in OKCs 24 runs is that 14 of them were UNEARNED. That has to be a record, no?!?   

16 is apparently the major league record for most unearned runs by one team and involved the Mets and Astros (and no it did not occur during the early expansion years). Here's the box score.

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« Reply #198 on: August 04, 2013, 04:15:15 am »
It's not a long track record, but over the last 7 games it seems Singleton may have turned a corner.  He's cut down on Ks and seems to be delivering consistently at the plate.  Has anyone seen him this week?  Previously he was described here as looking lost in his approach...hope that has changed and this isn't just a lucky streak.
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« Reply #199 on: August 04, 2013, 11:53:14 am »
16 is apparently the major league record for most unearned runs by one team and involved the Mets and Astros (and no it did not occur during the early expansion years). Here's the box score.

Interesting, thanks!
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« Reply #200 on: August 05, 2013, 10:02:54 pm »
Singleton goes 2-4 with couple of doubles in tonight's win over Colorado Springs to give him a 6-game hitting streak. #heatingup

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« Reply #201 on: August 06, 2013, 01:11:48 am »
Singleton goes 2-4 with couple of doubles in tonight's win over Colorado Springs to give him a 6-game hitting streak. #heatingup

Last 10 games Springer: 11-34. 11-R, 2B, 2-3B, 2-HR, 19-RBI, 10-BB, 9-SO, .324 AVG, .477 OPS, .647 SLG, 1.124 OPS.  Brings him to just over 1 strikeout per *5* plate appearance over that stretch...

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« Reply #202 on: August 06, 2013, 07:12:59 am »
Last 10 games Springer: 11-34. 11-R, 2B, 2-3B, 2-HR, 19-RBI, 10-BB, 9-SO, .324 AVG, .477 OPS, .647 SLG, 1.124 OPS.  Brings him to just over 1 strikeout per plate appearance over that stretch...

Great info, thanks. But, about that last statement....

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« Reply #203 on: August 06, 2013, 07:34:03 am »
Yeah, there's something not right about this.
 
  Brings him to just over 1 strikeout per plate appearance over that stretch...
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« Reply #204 on: August 06, 2013, 09:14:57 am »
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Yeah, Chris Carter is the only human capable of that pace.
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« Reply #205 on: August 06, 2013, 09:32:26 am »
Yeah, Chris Carter is the only human capable of that pace.

I'm hopeful that Luhnow can play some sort of Jedi mind trick on the Rangers and convince them that Carter is the bat they need to take over for Cruz. That kills two birds with one stone: it gets Carter off of the Astros, and it gets Carter *on* the Rangers. That's a win-win if you hate the Rangers.
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« Reply #206 on: August 06, 2013, 09:40:09 am »
I'm hopeful that Luhnow can play some sort of Jedi mind trick on the Rangers and convince them that Carter is the bat they need to take over for Cruz. That kills two birds with one stone: it gets Carter off of the Astros, and it gets Carter *on* the Rangers. That's a win-win if you hate the Rangers.

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« Reply #207 on: August 06, 2013, 10:00:24 am »
Great info, thanks. But, about that last statement....

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« Reply #208 on: August 06, 2013, 10:10:04 am »
I'm hopeful that Luhnow can play some sort of Jedi mind trick on the Rangers and convince them that Carter is the bat they need to take over for Cruz. That kills two birds with one stone: it gets Carter off of the Astros, and it gets Carter *on* the Rangers. That's a win-win if you hate the Rangers.

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« Reply #209 on: August 06, 2013, 10:18:32 am »
Daniels is no fool.

But he is a Ranger.
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« Reply #210 on: August 06, 2013, 11:15:31 am »
I'm hopeful that Luhnow can play some sort of Jedi mind trick on the Rangers and convince them that Carter is the bat they need to take over for Cruz. That kills two birds with one stone: it gets Carter off of the Astros, and it gets Carter *on* the Rangers. That's a win-win if you hate the Rangers.

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« Reply #211 on: August 06, 2013, 03:17:19 pm »
Yeah, Chris Carter is the only human active player capable of that pace now that Ankiel has retired.
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« Reply #212 on: August 06, 2013, 05:42:39 pm »
BAs best tool survey had a few members of the OKC squad named:

Villar-Best Defensive SS, Best Infield Arm
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« Reply #213 on: August 08, 2013, 02:25:11 pm »
Springer is on like a 12 game homerless streak.  Get to 30-30 already, then call him up.
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« Reply #214 on: August 08, 2013, 02:29:27 pm »
Springer is on like a 12 game homerless streak.  Get to 30-30 already, then call him up.

I want them to wait until September so that we can watch him again during the OKC trip to RR 8/21-8/25.
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« Reply #215 on: August 09, 2013, 03:51:01 pm »
Springer 0-4 last night with 3 Ks as OKC's 12 game winning came to an end in a 12-3 thrashing from Las Vegas.  Of note, Tim Byrdak pitched for Las Vegas, faced 1 batter and walked him.
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« Reply #216 on: August 09, 2013, 10:46:28 pm »
Springer is on like a 12 game homerless streak.  Get to 30-30 already, then call him up.

Just hit HR number 30

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« Reply #217 on: August 10, 2013, 01:27:49 am »
Sweet, was hoping my reverse jinxing would work :)
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« Reply #219 on: August 13, 2013, 09:03:56 am »
I want them to wait until September so that we can watch him again during the OKC trip to RR 8/21-8/25.

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« Reply #220 on: August 13, 2013, 09:53:33 am »
So, Luhnow said Springer is in OKC and that's where he'll stay.  Perhaps they have him working on cutting down the K-rate.  At AA he hit about .300 with a .579 slugging percentage.  But he struck out in 35.16% of his at-bats.  At AAA overall his K-rate is 32% of his at-bats.  Since the AAA ASB (over 25 games) he's hitting just .247 with a 32.58% K-rate.  However in his last 10 games he's hitting just .212 but his K-rate has dropped to 24.24% of his at-bats.  But, he's walked 10 times in those 10 games.  For the year he's walked 70 times in 116 games.  Could he be working on pitch selectivity, especially with 2 strikes?  Or working to change his 2 strike approach?
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« Reply #221 on: August 13, 2013, 10:23:00 am »
Luhnow discussed Springer Sunday and said that he would be in Houston next year. he added that it wasn't definitive what point in the year. I took that to indicate he would be not a Sept. callup.

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« Reply #222 on: August 13, 2013, 11:20:53 am »
Luhnow discussed Springer Sunday and said that he would be in Houston next year. he added that it wasn't definitive what point in the year. I took that to indicate he would be not a Sept. callup.

That is not I how I heard it.  I thought he said he would likely be up at some point this year.  Whether it is before or after the roster expansion in what is in question.  He made it sound as though he would be the starting CF next year to start the season.

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« Reply #223 on: August 13, 2013, 11:23:41 am »
Is there an archive of that discussion anywhere?
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« Reply #224 on: August 13, 2013, 12:57:43 pm »
Luhnow discussed Springer Sunday and said that he would be in Houston next year. he added that it wasn't definitive what point in the year. I took that to indicate he would be not a Sept. callup.

Well, by not bringing him up September they would keep open a 40 man spot they could use to either protect or poach in the Rule 5 draft.

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Does anybody have a list of players who need protection this year?  


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Notables that I remeber from last year that are still unprotected:
Stoffel
David Martinez
Carlos Perez
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« Reply #225 on: August 13, 2013, 01:25:00 pm »
Well, by not bringing him up September they would keep open a 40 man spot they could use to either protect or poach in the Rule 5 draft.

ETA
Does anybody have a list of players who need protection this year?  


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Notables that I remeber from last year that are still unprotected:
Stoffel
David Martinez
Carlos Perez


Here are the folks I think are high on the Luhnow "won't be on the 40-man roster next year" list.
Bedard
Ely
Gonzalez
Harrell
Humber
Elmore
Marwin
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« Reply #226 on: August 13, 2013, 02:55:41 pm »
Is there an archive of that discussion anywhere?

I doubt it. It was the past Sunday pre-show on Astros radio in which Luhnow is normally the guest.

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« Reply #227 on: August 14, 2013, 02:59:20 pm »
The Sickels "Prospect Retrospective" on Chris Davis intrigued me a bit given the earlier discussions about Springer's strikeout rate and comps to other MLB'ers who struck out a lot in the minors.
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« Reply #228 on: August 16, 2013, 01:46:49 am »
Springer hits #33 (and picks up his 98th RBI) in tonight's win at Tucson. Singleton bops his 11th longball (#6 for the RedHawks) and is at .298/.450/.532 for the month of August.

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« Reply #229 on: August 16, 2013, 11:30:48 am »
Springer hits #33 (and picks up his 98th RBI) in tonight's win at Tucson. Singleton bops his 11th longball (#6 for the RedHawks) and is at .298/.450/.532 for the month of August.

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« Reply #230 on: August 16, 2013, 07:21:35 pm »
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Kinda dumb that OKC and RR will no longer be in the same division. But from a scheduling standpoint, though, I believe the RedHawks will still make two visits every year to RR (and vice versa).

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« Reply #231 on: August 16, 2013, 08:50:38 pm »
Luhnow smiles and pets a fluffy white cat.
Luhnow? Wade was responsible for bringing both those guys into the org. That said, I'm sure Luhnow will be quite happy if they fulfill their potential.
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« Reply #232 on: August 16, 2013, 10:50:26 pm »
I want them to wait until September so that we can watch him again during the OKC trip to RR 8/21-8/25.

You'll get your wish:

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Astros general manager Jeff Luhnow for the first time Friday said the outfielder George Springer would stay at Triple-A Oklahoma City for the rest of its season, which could include a trip to the playoffs. Whether Springer gets called to Houston afterwards remains to be seen, but don’t expect him in an Astros uniform anytime soon.

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« Reply #233 on: August 17, 2013, 08:38:08 am »
You'll get your wish:

Per McTaggart

Say what you want about whether he'd make the club better, but it's nice to see the current regime not making decisions based on PR.

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« Reply #234 on: August 18, 2013, 07:56:05 pm »
#35 with the Boss Man watching.

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« Reply #235 on: August 19, 2013, 09:16:27 am »
He's getting closer and closer to a 40HR/40SB season.

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« Reply #236 on: August 19, 2013, 09:51:38 am »
#35 with the Boss Man watching.
Damn, 15th straight home win for the Redhawks. They're now 6 up in the division.

Asher W improves to 8-6 with a 3.52 ERA; K's 8 in his 7.1 IP.

De Leon allows his first AAA ER (0.87 ERA in 10.1 IP).

With the HR, Springer now has 100 RBI, and 98 Runs, on the year.

Meanwhile, Paredes has now played in 9 games at SS. I wonder if this is an intentional experiment, or just pure need with Villar and Marwin both promoted? Torreyes, normally a 2B, has been playing SS at CC with Mier injured. Too bad Ben Orloff retired...
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« Reply #237 on: August 19, 2013, 10:39:46 am »
#35 with the Boss Man watching.

They were playing in Cobb County?
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« Reply #238 on: August 19, 2013, 09:23:04 pm »
Say what you want about whether he'd make the club better, but it's nice to see the current regime not making decisions based on PR.

Or are they? I thought this was an interesting take on the Springer situation.
http://www.astroscounty.com/2013/08/the-case-for-keeping-george-springer-at.html

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« Reply #239 on: August 20, 2013, 07:22:29 pm »
Springer with HR #36 in B1!!!
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« Reply #240 on: August 20, 2013, 07:25:30 pm »
Springer with HR #36 in B1!!!

“@azfreedman: Springer's latest work of art: a screaming line drive off the LED board in LF for #36. Now has 101 RBI and 100 runs scored.”
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« Reply #241 on: August 20, 2013, 07:44:53 pm »
I fully expect to see another top-of-the-equipment-shed shot out at Round Rock sometime this week.
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« Reply #242 on: August 20, 2013, 11:45:36 pm »
And to top off the earlier HR, Springer with a walk off single in B9! http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2013_08_20_albaaa_orhaaa_1&t=g_log&sid=milb
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« Reply #243 on: August 21, 2013, 01:20:35 am »
Sponger 36th HR video: LINK

Springer walk-off single video: LINK
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« Reply #244 on: August 21, 2013, 08:09:02 am »
Sponger 36th HR video: LINK

Springer walk-off single video: LINK

Reasonable chance for 40-40...
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« Reply #245 on: August 23, 2013, 05:04:48 pm »
MiLB.com with a (incomplete) chronicle of George Springers assault on 40/40. LINK.  I'd completely forgotten about the 2 HRs in the All Star game...
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« Reply #246 on: August 23, 2013, 09:32:47 pm »
MiLB.com with a (incomplete) chronicle of George Springers assault on 40/40. LINK.  I'd completely forgotten about the 2 HRs in the All Star game...

It's out of date.  37 HR in the 6th tonight.
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« Reply #247 on: August 23, 2013, 09:38:57 pm »
It's out of date.  37 HR in the 6th tonight.

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« Reply #248 on: August 24, 2013, 12:25:39 am »
That's what I get for not going tonight.

Barely went over the left field wall. Thought for a sec the left fielder might've actually gloved it...  Nevertheless,,, 37/41!!! (And that 37 does not include the two he hit at the all star game,,,
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« Reply #249 on: August 24, 2013, 08:30:21 pm »
Amador is in the lineup.  Just looking at the video, he doesn't look like 315. Not even close.  Just a big guy.

He followed Singleton's jam shot single with his own.  Already has two hits on the night.

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« Reply #250 on: August 26, 2013, 10:23:56 am »
Barely went over the left field wall. Thought for a sec the left fielder might've actually gloved it...  Nevertheless,,, 37/41!!! (And that 37 does not include the two he hit at the all star game,,,

he hit it a mile high. if he had not gotten under it, that ball would have landed several counties over.
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My favorite player in the organization is no longer Jose Altuve. it is now officially Japhet Amador.
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« Reply #252 on: August 28, 2013, 08:19:16 pm »
My favorite player in the organization is no longer Jose Altuve. it is now officially Japhet Amador.

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« Reply #253 on: August 29, 2013, 11:06:56 am »
My favorite player in the organization is no longer Jose Altuve. it is now officially Japhet Amador.

I'm interested in seeing this guy play.

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« Reply #254 on: August 31, 2013, 10:30:25 am »
Well, I guess you can't accuse Springer of just swinging for the fences, trying to get to 40. His last 3 games, he's 6-for-13 with just 1 K and 1 XBH (a triple). Since his last homer, 10-for-24 with 6 K.

His overall line at AAA is really impressive, .316/.432/.642; his numbers are better across the board than his AA, and he's striking out less: 63 in 60 games, compared to 96 in 73 games at CC.
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« Reply #255 on: August 31, 2013, 01:15:58 pm »
Amador is in the lineup.  Just looking at the video, he doesn't look like 315. Not even close.  Just a big guy.

He followed Singleton's jam shot single with his own.  Already has two hits on the night.

FWIW, he is now listed at 215.
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« Reply #256 on: August 31, 2013, 02:27:00 pm »
Any Busriders in OKC, or planning to catch the Sunday or Monday game?!?
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