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Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« on: July 19, 2012, 05:45:07 pm »
Your lineups (Someone in the GZ will be happy to see the absence of Bogusevic against a righthander):

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2BJose Altuve
SSMarwin Gonzalez
3BScott Moore
LFJ.D. Martinez
1BMatt Downs
RFJustin Maxwell
CFJordan Schafer
CChris Snyder
PLucas Harrell

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CF Alexi Amarista 
2B Logan Forsythe 
3B Chase Headley 
LF Carlos Quentin 
C Yasmani Grandal 
1B Yonder Alonso 
RF Will Venable 
SS Everth Cabrera 
P Edinson Volquez
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2012, 08:37:31 pm »
This is a complete kick ass park. Gorgeous!
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2012, 09:01:36 pm »
Quote from: BudGirl on July 19, 2012, 08:37:31 pm
This is a complete kick ass park. Gorgeous!

I'm super jealous. Have fun!
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2012, 09:03:50 pm »
Quote from: BudGirl on July 19, 2012, 08:37:31 pm
This is a complete kick ass park. Gorgeous!

You're in SD?  We went a couple of years ago.  Gorgeous park indeed, TV doesn't do it justice.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2012, 09:04:47 pm »
lucky does not seem enough of a word
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2012, 09:06:01 pm »
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2012, 09:08:38 pm »
Altuve is hitting .120 since the ASB.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2012, 09:10:05 pm »
Quote from: BudGirl on July 19, 2012, 08:37:31 pm
This is a complete kick ass park. Gorgeous!

Wait, you're on the left coast and you're not even going to trek 'a few miles' up the 101 to visit?!?  I SERIOUSLY hope for your sake that is NOT the case...
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2012, 09:12:41 pm »
This guy has been brutal to the Astros. Hopefully, our first frame is not a harbinger of things to come.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2012, 09:14:00 pm »
This guy Amarista can play.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2012, 09:15:04 pm »
Well, that didn't take long. Fuck.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2012, 09:15:07 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on July 19, 2012, 09:08:38 pm
Altuve is hitting .120 since the ASB.

Reason eleventy-threeve my fantasy team is tanking.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2012, 09:19:16 pm »
Hope Harrell is okay. Those comebackers off the legs hurt like a motherfucker.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2012, 09:19:46 pm »
Quote from: OregonStrosFan on July 19, 2012, 09:10:05 pm
Wait, you're on the left coast and you're not even going to trek 'a few miles' up the 101 to visit?!?  I SERIOUSLY hope for your sake that is NOT the case...

What are you going to do about it?
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2012, 09:20:54 pm »
Quote from: Bench on July 19, 2012, 09:03:50 pm
You're in SD?  We went a couple of years ago.  Gorgeous park indeed, TV doesn't do it justice.

There are things I miss, like fowl poles but I could get over it.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2012, 09:21:08 pm »
Quote from: BudGirl on July 19, 2012, 09:19:46 pm
What are you going to do about it?

I am petty and vindictive. I'll think of something!
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2012, 09:28:03 pm »
Don't think JD would have avoided being doubled off on that liner, but I would have still preferred to see him freeze on the liner and then bust it back.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2012, 09:32:05 pm »
Nicely done by Altuve.

Apropos of nothing, I would dearly love to see a pitcher named Beowulf face Grendal.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2012, 09:33:20 pm »
Quote from: MusicMan on July 19, 2012, 09:32:05 pm
Nicely done by Altuve.

That WAS sweet indeed!
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2012, 09:34:22 pm »
Quote from: hostros7 on July 19, 2012, 09:28:03 pm
Don't think JD would have avoided being doubled off on that liner, but I would have still preferred to see him freeze on the liner and then bust it back.

While I can't fault him there, he's not the best base runner at I've ever seen.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2012, 09:35:55 pm »
Harrell with an easy frame. 1-0 Top 3. I'm worried about one run standing up tonight.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2012, 09:36:09 pm »
Who on this team is a good base runner?
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2012, 09:38:35 pm »
Volquez with a nasty change piece to finish off Harrell.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2012, 09:43:59 pm »
High strike zone tonight. Both of these guys keep the ball down, so I don't know who that favors.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2012, 09:46:09 pm »
Nice throw by Snyder guns down Amarista.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2012, 09:48:21 pm »
The Nissan Grease spot is fucking horrible.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2012, 09:48:28 pm »
Quote from: BudGirl on July 19, 2012, 09:36:09 pm
Who on this team is a good base runner?

Altuve does his best.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2012, 09:49:02 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on July 19, 2012, 09:48:21 pm
The Nissan Grease spot is fucking horrible.

Tell me more, tell me more.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2012, 09:51:02 pm »
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Altuve does his best.

If only he could remember to always cover first.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2012, 09:52:04 pm »
Good or bad if I got to see a no-hitter in person?
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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2012, 09:53:25 pm »
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Good or bad if I got to see a no-hitter in person?

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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2012, 09:54:04 pm »
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Who on this team is a good base runner?
Castro is very good.  He reads balls off the bat quickly an accurately.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2012, 09:56:12 pm »
A hit!!!
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2012, 09:59:09 pm »
Well, fuck. We wasted our hit. I don't know if we'll get any more.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2012, 10:04:23 pm »
If headley is mike schmidt, CJ has to at least be, um, Todd zeile? 
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« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2012, 10:06:09 pm »
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If headley is mike schmidt, CJ has to at least be, um, Todd zeile? 

By that, I mean to suggest that luhnow has to test the market for him if it truly is a sellers market at third, right?  Id rather see paredes there anyways.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2012, 10:11:07 pm »
Volquez is on his game, which is bad news for us..
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2012, 10:12:30 pm »
Burger Dump is NOT barbeque, morons! That is all.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2012, 10:16:02 pm »
Get the ball down, Harrell.
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« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2012, 10:16:33 pm »
Quote from: hostros7 on July 19, 2012, 10:06:09 pm
By that, I mean to suggest that luhnow has to test the market for him if it truly is a sellers market at third, right?  Id rather see paredes there anyways.
I imagine he is testing, but who is going to fall for that.  CJ has become somewhat of a basket case at the plate: weird little tics, talking to himself, mumbling at the umps as he walks back to the dugout after another K.  
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« Reply #40 on: July 19, 2012, 10:16:49 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on July 19, 2012, 10:12:30 pm
Burger Dump is NOT barbeque, morons! That is all.

If someone invited me to a barbeque and took me to BK, I would be protected by state law when I bludgeoned them to a coma.
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« Reply #41 on: July 19, 2012, 10:18:44 pm »
Quote from: jbm on July 19, 2012, 10:16:33 pm
CJ has become somewhat of a basket case at the plate: weird little tics, talking to himself, mumbling at the umps as he walks back to the dugout after another K. 

Is there some sort of curse on our third base bag that causes this?
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2012, 10:20:40 pm »
Volquez has had two very buntable pitches and let them go for strikes.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2012, 10:22:14 pm »
Harrell pitches around traffic. Still 1-0.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2012, 10:27:51 pm »
Good at bat by Gonzalez.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #45 on: July 19, 2012, 10:28:53 pm »
0-17 and he hoses marwin on the steal
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2012, 10:30:09 pm »
Gonzalez is the first stealer that Grandal has thrown out. He had been 0-17. Fuck.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2012, 10:31:30 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on July 19, 2012, 10:27:51 pm
Good at bat by Gonzalez.
Yeah, a lot of guys have laid off breakers in the dirt.  Kind of surprising to me, but it still hasn't helped in scoring runs.  
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2012, 10:34:13 pm »
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Yeah, a lot of guys have laid off breakers in the dirt.  Kind of surprising to me, but it still hasn't helped in scoring runs.  

Nope. I fear that we're not going to get anything off of Volquez. OUR ONLY CHANCE IS TO RUN UP HIS PITCH COUNT AND GET INTO THE BULLPEN.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #49 on: July 19, 2012, 10:36:11 pm »
Damn. Harrell looks good tonight. Too bad he's up against Volquez, who has never lost to the Astros.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #50 on: July 19, 2012, 10:40:42 pm »
Boy, that's a big zone for Violquez. He doesn't need any help.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2012, 10:41:03 pm »
Why would Mills call a hit and run on the first pitch when this guy never throws first pitches for strikes?
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #52 on: July 19, 2012, 10:42:47 pm »
Not sure if the numbers back my claim up, but this Astros offense seems historically bad.  They flirt with being no hit almost weekly, and it feels more regular than that.  I can only imagine the sentiment in the clubhouse.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #53 on: July 19, 2012, 10:42:57 pm »
Another 1 2 3 inning for Volquez. 1-0 Bottom 7
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #54 on: July 19, 2012, 10:47:36 pm »
Harrell matches Volquez. 1-0 Top 8
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2012, 10:49:23 pm »
What happened to the What-a-Burger spots?
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #56 on: July 19, 2012, 10:49:55 pm »
Quote from: hostros7 on July 19, 2012, 10:42:47 pm
Not sure if the numbers back my claim up, but this Astros offense seems historically bad.  They flirt with being no hit almost weekly, and it feels more regular than that.  I can only imagine the sentiment in the clubhouse.

They're not historically bad, they're just fine, they'll win their share of games, they have a lot of peppy guys who are fun to watch, you're a negativist, the outstanding drafts that the team had under the last FO will show up and shine soon, etc etc etc.

/shlong gorvelling necks that I have no time to ague with anymore

What they really need to worry about in the clubhouse is playing at a level to fucking keep their major league jobs because there is not a one of them who would play on a good team. I said this earlier in the year and the SGNs wanted to argue with me.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #57 on: July 19, 2012, 10:51:08 pm »
Nice swing, Schreefer. Thanks for playing.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #58 on: July 19, 2012, 10:52:53 pm »
The Braves have 20 awesome pitching prospects and Wade gets Schafer in return for an All Star CF. Yet Wade did a great job with the hand he was dealt. Just like Morey.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #59 on: July 19, 2012, 10:53:12 pm »
Fuck the wave.  Fuck the fucking wave.  
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #60 on: July 19, 2012, 10:54:17 pm »
Bogusevic pinch hitting for Harrell. Cue Geezerdonk with a smart ass quip. 1-0 Bottom 8. WW on to pitch.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #61 on: July 19, 2012, 10:55:40 pm »
Quote from: chuck on July 19, 2012, 10:52:53 pm
The Braves have 20 awesome pitching prospects and Wade gets Schafer in return for an All Star CF. Yet Wade did a great job with the hand he was dealt. Just like Morey.

Tell us how you really feel about Wade.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #62 on: July 19, 2012, 10:56:12 pm »
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Fuck the wave.  Fuck the fucking wave. 

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« Reply #63 on: July 19, 2012, 10:57:06 pm »
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Tell us how you really feel about Wade.

It's not what I feel about Wade it's what I feel about the SGNs who defended the pencil dicked PR man during his tenure when anyone could see he was wrecking the franchise.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #64 on: July 19, 2012, 11:00:10 pm »
They don't sell beer in the seats.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #65 on: July 19, 2012, 11:01:07 pm »
This Amarista is going to be an all-star one day once they find him a spot to play regularly. I like him over Altuve.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #66 on: July 19, 2012, 11:01:30 pm »
Quote from: chuck on July 19, 2012, 10:49:55 pm
What they really need to worry about in the clubhouse is playing at a level to fucking keep their major league jobs because there is not a one of them who would play on a good team. I said this earlier in the year and the SGNs wanted to argue with me.

Dude... Matt Albers is still getting relief appearances for the Red Sox and their has to be at least one reliever that is as good as Albers... Just saying...
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #67 on: July 19, 2012, 11:01:54 pm »
Quote from: BudGirl on July 19, 2012, 11:00:10 pm
They don't sell beer in the seats.

Get your ass up.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #68 on: July 19, 2012, 11:02:38 pm »
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This Amarista is going to be an all-star one day once they find him a spot to play regularly. I like him over Altuve.

Dude, I am seriously going to have to punch you in the nose if I ever get around to meeting you...
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #69 on: July 19, 2012, 11:02:57 pm »
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Dude... Matt Albers is still getting relief appearances for the Red Sox and their has to be at least one reliever that is as good as Albers... Just saying...

I was thinking about this after the fact and conceded to myself that a guy like Wesley Wright could probably find a spot.
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« Reply #70 on: July 19, 2012, 11:03:10 pm »
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What happened to the What-a-Burger spots?

Narrator died of throat cancer.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #71 on: July 19, 2012, 11:03:41 pm »
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They don't sell beer in the seats.

That is un-American.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #72 on: July 19, 2012, 11:04:08 pm »
What kind of bullshit is this? Get Street in the game!
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #73 on: July 19, 2012, 11:04:35 pm »
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Narrator died of throat cancer.

Seriously?
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« Reply #74 on: July 19, 2012, 11:05:21 pm »
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Seriously?

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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #75 on: July 19, 2012, 11:05:53 pm »
I feel like the fucking Harbinger of Death, but Robert Creamer died today too.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #76 on: July 19, 2012, 11:06:35 pm »
Quote from: chuck on July 19, 2012, 11:01:54 pm
Get your ass up.

I was making an observation.
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« Reply #77 on: July 19, 2012, 11:06:44 pm »
Nasty changeup to finish off Gonzalez.
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« Reply #78 on: July 19, 2012, 11:07:03 pm »
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I feel like the fucking Harbinger of Death, but Robert Creamer died today too.

Too?
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« Reply #79 on: July 19, 2012, 11:07:41 pm »
Quote from: Dark Star on July 19, 2012, 11:07:03 pm
Too?

Yes. Tom Davis. I posted it in B&Q.
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« Reply #80 on: July 19, 2012, 11:07:52 pm »
Quote from: chuck on July 19, 2012, 11:02:57 pm
I was thinking about this after the fact and conceded to myself that a guy like Wesley Wright could probably find a spot.

Quoting this comment as a memento. Not sure you've ever conceded any comment I've made before or will ever do so again!!! 
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #81 on: July 19, 2012, 11:08:58 pm »
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What kind of bullshit is this? Get Street in the game!

Dude, no way I can get to San Diego and get warmed up to pitch before the T9 is over...
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« Reply #82 on: July 19, 2012, 11:09:14 pm »
Quote from: OregonStrosFan on July 19, 2012, 11:02:38 pm
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« Reply #83 on: July 19, 2012, 11:09:23 pm »
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Yes. Tom Davis. I posted it in B&Q.

Tom Davis ... Al Franken's former partner?
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #84 on: July 19, 2012, 11:09:34 pm »
So, Matt Downs continues to rake. Good to hear.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #85 on: July 19, 2012, 11:09:52 pm »
Well that was fun.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #86 on: July 19, 2012, 11:10:21 pm »
Quote from: Dark Star on July 19, 2012, 11:09:23 pm
Tom Davis ... Al Franken's former partner?

Yes. I encourage you to read the NY Times obit but more importantly, the amazing post he did that I also linked to.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #87 on: July 19, 2012, 11:13:47 pm »
Quote from: OregonStrosFan on July 19, 2012, 11:07:52 pm
Quoting this comment as a memento. Not sure you've ever conceded any comment I've made before or will ever do so again!!! 

You might want to bookmark this page, yes.

As everyone knows the team is in very real danger of eclipsing the worst road record, ever. If they find someone to take Wandy I would consider this a foregone conclusion.
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« Reply #88 on: July 19, 2012, 11:14:38 pm »
One hit, one god damn hit.... 
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« Reply #89 on: July 19, 2012, 11:17:08 pm »
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One hit, one god damn hit.... 

You saw the hit, right? It's what Schafer tries to do every at bat. Maybe he should take a mighty swing at it like Downs did and then beat out the dribbler.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #90 on: July 19, 2012, 11:22:15 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on July 19, 2012, 09:35:55 pm
Harrell with an easy frame. 1-0 Top 3. I'm worried about one run standing up tonight.
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« Reply #91 on: July 20, 2012, 07:37:40 am »
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Is there some sort of curse on our third base bag that causes this?

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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #92 on: July 20, 2012, 07:56:11 am »
Quote from: chuck on July 19, 2012, 11:13:47 pm
As everyone knows the team is in very real danger of eclipsing the worst road record, ever. If they find someone to take Wandy I would consider this a foregone conclusion.

I'm having trouble comprehending how bad it's going to get next season.
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« Reply #93 on: July 20, 2012, 08:41:53 am »
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I'm having trouble comprehending how bad it's going to get next season.
I feel like the hitting will be slightly better next year. The big question is the pitching. Wandy and Myers are likely gone, and Bud has taken a huge backward tumble this year. And no one looks that ready in AAA/AA beyond Keuchel, who's not a savior.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #94 on: July 20, 2012, 08:51:45 am »
Quote from: chuck on July 19, 2012, 10:52:53 pm
The Braves have 20 awesome pitching prospects and Wade gets Schafer in return for an All Star CF. Yet Wade did a great job with the hand he was dealt. Just like Morey.

You'd have a point if I hadn't ripped the deal as it happened and continuously since.  But since you don't have a point, just go fuck yourself.
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« Reply #95 on: July 20, 2012, 12:12:22 pm »
Quote from: Reuben on July 20, 2012, 08:41:53 am
I feel like the hitting will be slightly better next year. The big question is the pitching. Wandy and Myers are likely gone, and Bud has taken a huge backward tumble this year. And no one looks that ready in AAA/AA beyond Keuchel, who's not a savior.

How is Clemens looking?
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #96 on: July 20, 2012, 12:19:17 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on July 20, 2012, 12:12:22 pm
How is Clemens looking?

April: 2.05
May 10.29
June: 5.86
July: 8.78
Season: 6.66

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« Reply #97 on: July 20, 2012, 01:05:13 pm »
Quote from: moriartp on July 20, 2012, 12:19:17 pm
April: 2.05
May 10.29
June: 5.86
July: 8.78
Season: 6.66

Bad.

Thanks. That is bad. The last I'd heard were the April numbers. Maybe he's more suspect than prospect? What's been his problem? Location? Command? They're obviously hitting him pretty hard to rack up those types of numbers.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #98 on: July 20, 2012, 01:06:46 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on July 20, 2012, 01:05:13 pm
Thanks. That is bad. The last I'd heard were the April numbers. Maybe he's more suspect than prospect? What's been his problem? Location? Command? They're obviously hitting him pretty hard to rack up those types of numbers.

His work this year is so completely different than any other year I'm wondering if he's hiding an injury.
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« Reply #99 on: July 20, 2012, 01:19:37 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on July 20, 2012, 01:05:13 pm
Thanks. That is bad. The last I'd heard were the April numbers. Maybe he's more suspect than prospect? What's been his problem? Location? Command? They're obviously hitting him pretty hard to rack up those types of numbers.
I only saw one game, but he essentially had no secondary pitches. His fastball worked OK, but nothing to complement it. 
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« Reply #100 on: July 20, 2012, 01:31:10 pm »
Quote from: Jacksonian on July 20, 2012, 01:06:46 pm
His work this year is so completely different than any other year I'm wondering if he's hiding an injury.

Wouldn't be surprising at all. He was getting some great reviews during spring training, and something has obviously changed since then.
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« Reply #101 on: July 20, 2012, 02:06:53 pm »
There is always the chance they've changed his mechanics and....nah. He was the most talked about pitching prospect during ST. Something's amiss.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #102 on: July 20, 2012, 02:39:18 pm »
I don't think he is injured.  He probably progressed through the lower minors on his fastball alone. Now it's caught up to him. Wouldn't be the first time. 
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #103 on: July 20, 2012, 03:00:29 pm »
Quote from: jbm on July 20, 2012, 02:39:18 pm
I don't think he is injured.  He probably progressed through the lower minors on his fastball alone. Now it's caught up to him. Wouldn't be the first time. 

Except that his first three starts this year were great.  Then he missed two weeks and came back not the same.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #104 on: July 20, 2012, 03:18:02 pm »
Luhnow saw Oberholtzer pitch earlier this month in OKC and he tweeted that he would be a ML pitcher.  He must have seen him on one of his good days as he's been up and down but Keuchel struggled when he first went to AAA and it came together this year. I haven't given up on he or Clemens yet.
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Re: Astros @ Padres 07/19/12
« Reply #105 on: July 20, 2012, 05:05:37 pm »
Quote from: Jacksonian on July 20, 2012, 03:00:29 pm
Except that his first three starts this year were great.  Then he missed two weeks and came back not the same.
Certainly leads credence to your claim, but it hard for me to imagine an injury that they are aware of and is causing him problems, yet they haven't let him shut it down and heal.

Re: Oberholzer.  He's another I have seen and would be damn surprised to see him as a major league starter.  Though he is younger than Clemens and is a lefty.
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