A lot of times, when a hitter swings at a border line pitch, he'll ask the umpire if it was otherwise a strike. 90% of the time, the umpire will say "oh yeah, that was right on the corner" or something like that. Once in a while the ump will say "no, I would have called that a ball". Either way, the ump usually says something about the pitch. Last night, playoffs of the old man division of the Denial League. Close game, 3-2 count on the hitter. The hitter swings at a pitch that was over the plat, but high, and fouls it back. He turns to the ump as asks "was that a strike or did I swing at ball four?" The ump says "we'll never know, will we". I couldn't help but laught out loud.