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Me love the Piranha, but...
« on: May 03, 2012, 04:09:16 pm »
... a Cinco de Mayo promo?

http://mlb.mlb.com/es/video/play.jsp?content_id=21094809&topic_id=7709244&partnerId=aw-8997684803669543995-1060

I know, it's a bit nit-picky, Jose being Venezuelan and all, but Cinco de Mayo is indeed a co-opted Mexican celebration. In fact, in the good old USA, Cinco de Mayo is just another excuse to party (and drink).  So yeah, maybe I should not be surprised after all. Carry on!

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Re: Me love the Piranha, but...
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2012, 04:18:30 pm »
Well, Noe, you forced me to learn something about Cinco de Mayo, so I thank you. While it doesn't surprise me that it involved yet another loss by the beleaguered French army, I didn't know that the day's roots go back to a military victory by the Mexican army in Puebla over the French. I always was told that it was Mexican Independence Day, which is actually September 16.
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Re: Me love the Piranha, but...
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2012, 04:33:39 pm »
... a Cinco de Mayo promo?

http://mlb.mlb.com/es/video/play.jsp?content_id=21094809&topic_id=7709244&partnerId=aw-8997684803669543995-1060

I know, it's a bit nit-picky, Jose being Venezuelan and all, but Cinco de Mayo is indeed a co-opted Mexican celebration. In fact, in the good old USA, Cinco de Mayo is just another excuse to party (and drink).  So yeah, maybe I should not be surprised after all. Carry on!

If it makes you feel any better, if Mr. The Altuve were there, the result would have probably been the same, only the battle would have been shorter.
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2012, 04:33:52 pm »
The fifth of May is a day of remembrance here also. In 1914 there was a fire and then an explosion at a fireworks factory that killed many firefighters. The bomberos have parades to commemorate the event although it's not really a holiday. People do, though, go out and get liquored up on margaritas so maybe Jose's invitation is not as terribly out of line as it might first appear.
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2012, 04:35:55 pm »
The fifth of May is a day of remembrance here also. In 1914 there was a fire and then an explosion at a fireworks factory that killed many firefighters. The bomberos have parades to commemorate the event although it's not really a holiday. People do, though, go out and get liquored up on margaritas so maybe Jose's invitation is not as terribly out of line as it might first appear.

I used to think that every day was a day to celebrate like that.
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Re: Me love the Piranha, but...
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 06:29:01 pm »
... a Cinco de Mayo promo?

http://mlb.mlb.com/es/video/play.jsp?content_id=21094809&topic_id=7709244&partnerId=aw-8997684803669543995-1060

I know, it's a bit nit-picky, Jose being Venezuelan and all, but Cinco de Mayo is indeed a co-opted Mexican celebration. In fact, in the good old USA, Cinco de Mayo is just another excuse to party (and drink).  So yeah, maybe I should not be surprised after all. Carry on!

Well, Cinco de Mayo has a LOOOOOOONNNNGGGG way to go before it gets to the level of co-opt that is St Patrick's Day in the US.

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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2012, 12:09:16 am »
Well, Noe, you forced me to learn something about Cinco de Mayo, so I thank you. While it doesn't surprise me that it involved yet another loss by the beleaguered French army, I didn't know that the day's roots go back to a military victory by the Mexican army in Puebla over the French. I always was told that it was Mexican Independence Day, which is actually September 16.

I believe the French still won that war and held Mexico for a few years until the Americans sent a stern gaze across the border at the French.

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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2012, 12:54:24 am »
I believe the French still won that war and held Mexico for a few years until the Americans sent a stern gaze across the border at the French.

I didn't know that either, but it apparently is true. This was another great day because I learned something new.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2012, 09:02:57 am »
I didn't know that either, but it apparently is true. This was another great day because I learned something new.

Read up about the feckless Maximilian I, "Emperor of Mexico"!  He was the French's puppet emperor until Juarez took over.  Mexico has quite an interesting history.
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2012, 09:45:13 am »
Read up about the feckless Maximilian I, "Emperor of Mexico"!  He was the French's puppet emperor until Juarez took over.  Mexico has quite an interesting history.

That whole thing was kind of a precursor to the Monroe Doctrine too.  The Americans were less than thrilled that some Euros were messing around in their backyard but had to wait until that whole Civil War thing was over before running the French out and providing support for Mexico.

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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2012, 09:55:55 am »
That whole thing was kind of a precursor to the Monroe Doctrine too.  The Americans were less than thrilled that some Euros were messing around in their backyard but had to wait until that whole Civil War thing was over before running the French out and providing support for Mexico.

Not sure how it was a precursor to the Monroe Doctrine since it was created in 1823.

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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2012, 10:35:35 am »
Not sure how it was a precursor to the Monroe Doctrine since it was created in 1823.

Blah. I meant that it fell under that whole mentality. Remind me not to post before 9am.

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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2012, 06:53:00 pm »
I believe the French still won that war and held Mexico for a few years until the Americans sent a stern gaze across the border at the French.

Yup, Cinco de Mayo is a celebration of a battle that was won in Puebla. It did not lead to anything specific in terms of winning the war, only that it provided Mexican's the resolve that one day their nation would be independent of the European lordship. That is why Cinco de Mayo celebrations are about remembrance this was the first significant battle that was won by Mexican residents.

Still, kinda kookie they didn't choose Fernando Rodriquez to give out a hardy "Viva Mexico" shout into the camera. Like I said, co-opted celebration and if the end result is good nachos, guacamole, dos equis, and beisbol... it's all good!

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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2012, 08:42:21 pm »
Yup, Cinco de Mayo is a celebration of a battle that was won in Puebla. It did not lead to anything specific in terms of winning the war, only that it provided Mexican's the resolve that one day their nation would be independent of the European lordship. That is why Cinco de Mayo celebrations are about remembrance this was the first significant battle that was won by Mexican residents.

Still, kinda kookie they didn't choose Fernando Rodriquez to give out a hardy "Viva Mexico" shout into the camera. Like I said, co-opted celebration and if the end result is good nachos, guacamole, dos equis, and beisbol... it's all good!

I'll take three out of four there and be quite happy.
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