why people hate the cowbosy

[Rebel Jew]

hey collinsworth!  these assholes are 1-7, they are not a good team!  they are not a group of underachieving stars.  they are suck.

[BizidyDizidy]

The good news is it looks like things are going to get worse before they get better.

[BudGirl]

hey collinsworth!  these assholes are 1-7, they are not a good team!  they are not a group of underachieving stars.  they are suck.

they aren't 1-7 yet.  give them about an hour.

and collingsworth is an ass, you shouldn't listen to him regardless of who is playing.

[Alkie]

WOW.

[BudGirl]

bad coaching
bad plays
bad everything.

bad calls that can't have a challenge because they've wasted their time outs.  cowboys fault.

while I do believe there are some good to great players on this team even they are sucking right now.

[Rebel Jew]

bad coaching
bad plays
bad everything.

bad calls that can't have a challenge because they've wasted their time outs.  cowboys fault.

while I do believe there are some good to great players on this team even they are sucking right now.

there's good players on every team, that's my point.  cowboys are a bad team with a lot of bad players, maybe not 1-7 bad but it's ridiculous to chalk this all up to something intangible.  wade didn't forget how to coach over the offseason.

[BudGirl]

there's good players on every team, that's my point.  cowboys are a bad team with a lot of bad players, maybe not 1-7 bad but it's ridiculous to chalk this all up to something intangible.  wade didn't forget how to coach over the offseason.

I didn't say they didn't have bad players and I didn't say all their players were good to great.  I just said that their good players weren't playing good.

Everyone knows losing breeds losing, just like winning breeds wins.  Good teams find ways to win and bad teams find ways to lose.    I happen to love a team that finds ways to lose.  

Maybe the players believed the crap written about them before the season and didn't realize they had to play and win the games.  I don't know.  I don't care.  I just need a change for next season.  I also would like Carolina and Buffalo to win a couple of games.  I would like the Cowboys to have the #1 pick and new coaches next season.

[Alkie]

I would like the Cowboys to have the #1 pick and new coaches next season.

The Boys will go 1-15 and get the #1 pick.   If they piss it away on that fag Aikman from UCLA, I guarantee they'll never win another ring.

[Rebel Jew]

I didn't say they didn't have bad players and I didn't say all their players were good to great.  I just said that their good players weren't playing good.

Everyone knows losing breeds losing, just like winning breeds wins.  Good teams find ways to win and bad teams find ways to lose.    I happen to love a team that finds ways to lose.  

They need a new GM.  An outsider and obvious Cowboy hater like myself would suggest that some of the good to great players aren't as good to great as their hype suggests, several other "good" players like Barber are actually terrible, and that, in general, they haven't produced a decent player since Parcells left.  But whatever, at least they're not the Texans.

[Bench]

They need a new GM.  An outsider and obvious Cowboy hater like myself would suggest that some of the good to great players aren't as good to great as their hype suggests, several other "good" players like Barber are actually terrible, and that, in general, they haven't produced a decent player since Parcells left.  But whatever, at least they're not the Texans.

Who is the current GM?

[Rebel Jew]

collinsworth line on the night:  "you want a head coaching candidate?  try dom capers."

[Rebel Jew]

Who is the current GM?

From Jerrah's wikipedia page:

Jerry Jones is married to Gene Jones and they have three children: Stephen, Charlotte and Jerry, Jr.

Stephen (6/21/64) is a graduate of the University of Arkansas and serves as the Cowboys' chief operating officer/executive vice president/director of player personnel. Charlotte (7/26/66) is a Stanford graduate and serves as the Cowboys' vice president/director of charities and special events. Jerry, Jr (9/27/69), a graduate of Georgetown University who earned his law degree from Southern Methodist University, is the Cowboys' chief sales and marketing officer/vice president.

[dirty steve]

 But whatever, at least they're not the Texans.

i disagree.
coach on hot seat - check
shitty defense - check
inconsistent offense - check
will likely throw gobs of cash at bill cowher/jon gruden in the 2010 offseason - check

[chuck]

The Cowboys are a terrible football team, a terrible franchise, a disaster and a disgrace to the league. Yet they beat the fuck out of the Texans, in Houston.

Roll that one around on the old palate for a while.

Who'll win more games the rest of the season, the Texans or the Cowboys? My money's on the Cowboys.

[sporadic]

hey collinsworth!  these assholes are 1-7, they are not a good team!  they are not a group of underachieving stars.  they are suck.

Almost the exact same group of players went 11-5 last year, won the NFC East along with a playoff game.  They are a bad team right now, but throw out the last two they have been in every game this year (I am purposly leaving out the Giants game, the Defense absolutley quit when Romo went down, like they knew the outcome was a foregone conclusion).  1-7 could very well be 5-3 without boneheaded penalties and piss poor playcalling.  Wade & Co. has lost the team. 

[austro]

collinsworth line on the night:  "you want a head coaching candidate?  try dom capers."

I could not stop laughing when I heard that. As much as I would like to see the Cowboys hire Capers, they can't really be that stupid, can they?

[HudsonHawk]

I could not stop laughing when I heard that. As much as I would like to see the Cowboys hire Capers, they can't really be that stupid, can they?

Capers isn't a bad coach, as long as he has someone who can call plays for him. 

[austro]

Capers isn't a bad coach, as long as he has someone who can call plays for him. 

No problem, they can keep Garrett.

[MusicMan]

Capers isn't a bad coach, as long as he has someone who can call plays for him. 

I nominate Greg Davis.

[Rebel Jew]

Almost the exact same group of players went 11-5 last year, won the NFC East along with a playoff game.  They are a bad team right now, but throw out the last two they have been in every game this year (I am purposly leaving out the Giants game, the Defense absolutley quit when Romo went down, like they knew the outcome was a foregone conclusion).  1-7 could very well be 5-3 without boneheaded penalties and piss poor playcalling.  Wade & Co. has lost the team. 

keep believing this.  cowboy haters appreciate it.

[sporadic]

keep believing this.  cowboy haters appreciate it.

what the fuck is the matter with you?  all of what I said is fact.  Is the roster almost identical to a team that went 11-5 a year ago?  Have they lost a bunch of close games?  Have they had a slew of stupid penalties in said losses?  Has the playcalling been suspect at best?  your ability to show your ass is astounding.

[Bench]

And so begins the sure to be short lived Jason Garrett era in Dallas.

So long, Wade.

[hostros7]

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/sportatorium/2010/11/wade_phillips_fired.php

[BudGirl]

1 wish down, 2 to go.

[MRaup]

what the fuck is the matter with you?  all of what I said is fact.  Is the roster almost identical to a team that went 11-5 a year ago?  Have they lost a bunch of close games?  Have they had a slew of stupid penalties in said losses?  Has the playcalling been suspect at best?  your ability to show your ass is astounding.

Dude, just get it through your head. Trum *IS* a Cowboys hater.

[EasTexAstro]

I'm not a Cowboys hater, but I have enjoyed watching almost every game they have played this year.

[Bench]

I'm not a Cowboys hater, but I have enjoyed watching almost every game they have played this year.

From the viewpoint of pure schadenfredue, I've enjoyed both the Cowboys and Longhorns campaigns this year. 

[The Spleen]

Oh, damn. Now the Cowboys will be fired up by their new coach and ready to give the Saints hell on Thanksgiving.
Oh, wait... Jason Garrett?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

[austro]

Oh, damn. Now the Cowboys will be fired up by their new coach and ready to give the Saints hell on Thanksgiving.
Oh, wait... Jason Garrett?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Oh, the best thing that could happen is that they respond to Garrett and Jones signs him to a 3-yr contract.

[Alkie]

I don't get it.

How is this better than just letting Wade finish the season?

[Bench]

I don't get it.

How is this better than just letting Wade finish the season?

Eh.  Why not?

[austro]

I don't get it.

How is this better than just letting Wade finish the season?

Jerry has presented the illusion of doing something, so he's off the hook for a while.

[Alkie]

Eh.  Why not?

Oh no no no no no, I'm for it.  I hate the fucking Cowboys.   This is desperate and nonsensical.

I'm just wondering from a very real "I own a football team and have to make good decisions" perspective why you make this move.

[Ebby Calvin]

I'm just wondering from a very real "I own a football team and have to make good decisions" perspective why you make this move.

What makes you think they have someone who shares that perspective?

[drew corleone]

It can't possible get any worse than not showing up for the past two games.

[Rebel Jew]

Jerry has presented the illusion of doing something, so he's off the hook for a while.

Yeah, they just need to change the culture of the team.  Because culture wins football games.

[Alkie]

What makes you think they have someone who shares that perspective?

Good point.

[geezerdonk]

Buffoonery ascendant.

[BUWebguy]

I'm just wondering from a very real "I own a football team and have to make good decisions" perspective why you make this move.

Presumably the team under Garrett will continue to struggle. Then you can fire him too and go get Cowher/Gruden/whoever and not have to listen to the "you should have hired Garrett!" people (if there are any of those left).

[BizidyDizidy]

Presumably the team under Garrett will continue to struggle. Then you can fire him too and go get Cowher/Gruden/whoever and not have to listen to the "you should have hired Garrett!" people (if there are any of those left).

But you are running a terrible risk of the team running off a few wins, then you're fucked.

[Bench]

But you are running a terrible risk of the team running off a few wins, then you're fucked.

Again, it's Jason Garrett.

[BudGirl]

But you are running a terrible risk of the team running off a few wins, then you're fucked.

what about the offense makes you think they might run off a few wins?

[EasTexAstro]

what about the offense makes you think they might run off a few wins?

+1

[BUWebguy]

Presumably the team under Garrett will continue to struggle. Then you can fire him too and go get Cowher/Gruden/whoever and not have to listen to the "you should have hired Garrett!" people (if there are any of those left).

If this was indeed Jerry Jones' plan, then ... oops.

[BizidyDizidy]

what about the offense makes you think they might run off a few wins?

Warned you

[The Spleen]

...and after the uglyish win today, it looks like the Saints will in fact be white-knuckling it in Dallas on Thanksgiving...

[BudGirl]

Warned you

they had a 1st and 5 and do they go deep?  no, they go the wrong way twice.  I'm not sold on the play-calling which can make or break an offense.