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'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« on: August 14, 2010, 03:02:18 pm »
You might want to look real closely at this lineup. Anything stick out?

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CF Michael Bourn
SS Angel Sanchez
RF Hunter Pence
1B Carlos Lee
2B Jeff Keppinger
LF Jason Michaels
3B Chris Johnson
C Humberto Quintero
P Bud Norris

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McCutcheon cf
Jones rf
Tabata lf
Alvarez 3b
Doumit c
Clement 1b
Diaz ss
Maholm p
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2010, 03:27:15 pm »
the future?
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2010, 03:30:17 pm »
I was thinking Kabong at 1B...
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2010, 03:43:11 pm »
So who's pitching for PIT tonight? A lefty?
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2010, 04:07:33 pm »
Quote from: austro on August 14, 2010, 03:43:11 pm
So who's pitching for PIT tonight? A lefty?

A tough lefty for the Astros, Paul Maholm.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2010, 04:52:25 pm »
I'd like to see Wallace get more play against lefties.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2010, 04:59:28 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on August 14, 2010, 04:07:33 pm
A tough lefty for the Astros, Paul Maholm.

Maholm is especially tough on the Astros.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2010, 05:02:31 pm »
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2010, 05:03:09 pm »
Quote from: moriartp on August 14, 2010, 04:52:25 pm
I'd like to see Wallace get more play against lefties.

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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2010, 05:16:25 pm »
Quote from: JimR on August 14, 2010, 05:02:31 pm
so was i

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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2010, 06:07:35 pm »
Quote from: moriartp on August 14, 2010, 04:52:25 pm
I'd like to see Wallace get more play against lefties.

Jeebus. Give him some time. Maholm is probably a good reason to give him off.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2010, 06:15:01 pm »
McCutcheon standup 3B; Jones 2 run HR on a cookie 2-0 Pitt; Tabata E6 two base error; Alvarez Ks; Walker Ks; Doumit Ks. 2-0 Pitt Bottom 1
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2010, 06:20:22 pm »
Bourn F7; Sanchez F7; Pence F9. 2-0 Top 2
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2010, 06:31:15 pm »
Clement 1B; Diaz 1B Clement to 2B; Maholm sac runners to 2B and 3B; McCutcheon Ks; Jones IBB bases drunk; Tabata L4. 2-0 Pitt Bottom 2.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2010, 06:34:22 pm »
Getting married in an Astros jersey?  Even I think that's weird.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2010, 06:38:02 pm »
Lee 3U; Keppinger 5-3; Michaels 1B on 0-2 mistake; CJ Ks 2-3. 2-0 Pitt Top 3
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2010, 06:38:41 pm »
Quote from: Gizzmonic on August 14, 2010, 06:34:22 pm
Getting married in an Astros jersey?  Even I think that's weird.

Me too.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2010, 06:40:08 pm »
Aspro in the booth!
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2010, 06:40:52 pm »
Quote from: Gizzmonic on August 14, 2010, 06:34:22 pm
Getting married in an Astros jersey?  Even I think that's weird.

Yyyyyeah. I'm glad they enjoyed themselves though.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2010, 06:43:30 pm »
I'll be at the game tomorrow with my youngest urchin. Anybody else making the trip? $9 box seats were too good to pass up. Figured I'd hit Marini's after the game and chip away at Robb Walsh's list.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2010, 06:44:38 pm »
Carlos showing a little glove there at 1B!
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2010, 06:45:03 pm »
Alvarez K on a 2-2 heater right down main street; Walker Ks; Doumit 3U on a nice play by Lee. 2-0 Pitt Bottom 3.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2010, 06:49:22 pm »
Norris runs real hard but doesn't seem to be getting anywhere in a hurry.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2010, 06:55:04 pm »
Q 4-3; Norris infield 1B  off of Maholm's glove; Bourn K; Sanchez FC 5-4 2-0 Pitt Top 4.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2010, 07:01:07 pm »
I'm at Target Field watching the Twins host the A's. Gorgeous stadium, no cows climbing poles just a clean intimate ballpark with great lines. Mainly it's a lot of fun to be in a sold out ballpark heading into a great pennant race. There's a fantastic energy in the park.  I'm looking forward to feeling that in Houston again.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2010, 07:01:42 pm »
Lee looks reasonably comfortable at first. He'd be a great Detroit Tiger.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2010, 07:02:35 pm »
Quote from: Bench on August 14, 2010, 07:01:07 pm
I'm at Target Field watching the Twins host the A's. Gorgeous stadium, no cows climbing poles just a clean intimate ballpark with great lines. Mainly it's a lot of fun to be in a sold out ballpark heading into a great pennant race. There's a fantastic energy in the park.  I'm looking forward to feeling that in Houston again.

Definitely. Glad you're having a good time.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2010, 07:03:16 pm »
Clement Ks; Diaz groundout; Maholm Ks. 2-0 Bottom 4.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2010, 07:05:34 pm »
Spaz yanks one into the Crawford Boxes!
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« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2010, 07:06:06 pm »
Damn, Thunder Pants got on that one with a quickness.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2010, 07:09:08 pm »
If you're a left fielder, you can't throw weak-ass shit to 2B and expect to throw out JEFF KEPPINGER either, bitch!
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2010, 07:10:58 pm »
Pence line drive HR on first pitch 2-1; Lee Ks; Keppinger 2B; Michaels 1-3; CJ 6-3. 2-1 Pitt Top 5.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2010, 07:16:14 pm »
McCutcheon F9; Jones Ks; Tabata Ks. 2-0 Bottom 5.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2010, 07:16:43 pm »
Bud working the high heat there in the 5th!
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« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2010, 07:16:54 pm »
10 Ks for Norris through 5.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2010, 07:21:44 pm »
Norris 2 for 2 with a double?
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2010, 07:21:55 pm »
Maholm ain't that tough. -Bud
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2010, 07:23:13 pm »
Time to steal home. Doumit can't handle that.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2010, 07:25:07 pm »
Q F9; Norris 2B; Bourn 3U Norris to 3B; Sanchez 6-3. 2-1 Pitt Top 6.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2010, 07:25:21 pm »
Aaaah, another opportunity missed.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2010, 07:33:03 pm »
Alvarez Ks (third time); Walker F9; Doumit HBP; Clement Ks. 2-1 Pitt Bottom 6. Norris with 12 strikeouts.
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« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2010, 07:37:05 pm »
Go get 'em, Kepp.
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« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2010, 07:40:02 pm »
Mother. Fucker. Pence, you fucking idiot.
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« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2010, 07:41:46 pm »
All of the instinct and reflexes of a barnyard chicken. You piece of shit.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2010, 07:42:05 pm »
Pence 2B; Lee F8 Pence to 3B; Keppinger BB; Michaels 5-2-6 Pence out on a brain cramp Keppinger to 3B and Michaels to 2B. CJ 5-3. 2-1 Pitt Top 7.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2010, 07:51:55 pm »
Diaz Ks (No. 13); Maholm 1B; McCutcheon FC 5-4 steals 2B; Jones Ks. 2-1 Pitt Bottom 7
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2010, 08:01:12 pm »
Little Angel, beat your wings.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #47 on: August 14, 2010, 08:04:17 pm »
Spaz loves him some Maholm!
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #48 on: August 14, 2010, 08:06:41 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on August 14, 2010, 07:51:55 pm
Diaz Ks (No. 13); Maholm 1B; McCutcheon FC 5-4 steals 2B; Jones Ks. 2-1 Pitt Bottom 7

so, Happy. Do you still think Norris is just a 7th inning guy?
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« Reply #49 on: August 14, 2010, 08:08:22 pm »
No more frustrating player than Hunter Pence.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #50 on: August 14, 2010, 08:08:36 pm »
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so, Happy. Do you still think Norris is just a 7th inning guy?

He's actually using a change up now.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2010, 08:09:52 pm »
So I'm watching football and following the Astros on a gamecast. I see

- P. Feliz hit for M. Bourn

and then the inevitable

- P. Feliz struck out swinging

What was the logic here? Obviously a LHP but was Bourn hurt somewhere along the way? Why Feliz?
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« Reply #52 on: August 14, 2010, 08:12:18 pm »
Feliz was at .282 vs. lefties.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #53 on: August 14, 2010, 08:13:16 pm »
Q 1B Bourgeois PR; Norris Sac 2-3 Bourgeois to 2B; Feliz to PH for Bourn (who's hitting under the Mendoza line this season against lefties) Ks on an ugly fucking swing; Sanchez 1B to RF RBI 2-2 takes 2B on stupid throw over cutoff man home; Pence 2B RBI 3-2 Astros (stupid pitch by Maholm;should have nibbled instead of tossing Pence a cookie) Maholm out and Resop in; Lee F8 on Bourn-like play by McCutcheon. 3-2 Good Guys Top 8.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #54 on: August 14, 2010, 08:15:21 pm »
Quote from: Bench on August 14, 2010, 08:06:41 pm
so, Happy. Do you still think Norris is just a 7th inning guy?

I never said that he definitely was. Obviously, I've liked what I've seen tonight. And I liked his last start, as I wrote on here. He needs to be consistent though, and he hasn't proven that he can be consistent. Just doing it once in a while is not good enough.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #55 on: August 14, 2010, 08:16:41 pm »
I'm enjoying it too, but let's not forget that this is the Pirates.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #56 on: August 14, 2010, 08:17:31 pm »
All you without MLB.TV and don't have to see Keith Hernandez talk about his mustache 3 times a game - every single friggin' game - might not understand... but... if I ever see the him in person I'm going to punch him in the face (or, 'lip jacket' as he proclaims in the commercial)!  You might think you understand, but you don't (even if you desire to punch him in the face for some other reason).
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #57 on: August 14, 2010, 08:18:24 pm »
'Lip jacket' is reason enough. No jury would convict you.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #58 on: August 14, 2010, 08:19:36 pm »
Lopez on, Bourgeois in CF; Wallace at 1b; Castro behind the dish. Tabata Ks; Alvarez Ks (golden sombrero; Walker L6. 3-2 Astros Bottom 8.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #59 on: August 14, 2010, 08:21:28 pm »
Quote from: Ron Brand on August 14, 2010, 08:18:24 pm
'Lip jacket' is reason enough. No jury would convict you.

Excuse me, I left out a word: "glorious lip jacket."...  Shit, there it is again, 2 innings in a row. UGH!
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #60 on: August 14, 2010, 08:22:53 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on August 14, 2010, 08:15:21 pm
I never said that he definitely was. Obviously, I've liked what I've seen tonight. And I liked his last start, as I wrote on here. He needs to be consistent though, and he hasn't proven that he can be consistent. Just doing it once in a while is not good enough.

just fucking with you. He pitched 7 solid which makes him a good 7 inning guy in my book.

In other news, the twins are rocking led Zeppelin's immigrant song as duensing goes for the complete game shutout.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #61 on: August 14, 2010, 08:28:39 pm »
Keppinger F8; Michaels BB; CJ Ks; Bourgeois Ks. 3-2 Astros Top 9.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #62 on: August 14, 2010, 08:34:38 pm »
Quote from: Bench on August 14, 2010, 08:22:53 pm
In other news, the twins are rocking led Zeppelin's immigrant song as duensing goes for the complete game shutout.

What year is it in Minnesota?
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #63 on: August 14, 2010, 08:38:24 pm »
Excellent game!  Good work by Bud tonight, and some nice hitting from Spaz as well.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #64 on: August 14, 2010, 08:38:49 pm »
And thanks for the PBP there Mr. Happy!
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #65 on: August 14, 2010, 08:39:09 pm »
Lyon on for his 5th game in a row--I'm questioning that change in light of how well Lopez was pitching and the fact that Lyon has appeared in four in a row. Doumit L1; Clement 1B great play by Bourgeois on a ball that is two bags if Lee is aout there Cedeno PR steals 2B; Young PH for Diaz Ks on a nasty 12-6 hook; Milledge PH for Resop 4-3. 3-2 Astros FINAL I'm glad that it worked out for Lyon, who looked good tonight.
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« Reply #66 on: August 14, 2010, 08:39:52 pm »
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And thanks for the PBP there Mr. Happy!

You're welcome, OSF!
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #67 on: August 14, 2010, 08:40:15 pm »
And some great stumblefucking by Pence too. Good to get a win though!
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #68 on: August 14, 2010, 08:43:06 pm »
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What year is it in Minnesota?

not sure. On the way out a guy in front of me collapsed and started having a seizure. My dad, a doctor, went to help but was chased away by the guys family who went on to perform the sorriest excuse of CPR I've ever seen.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #69 on: August 14, 2010, 11:53:35 pm »
Just saw the replay of Bud's 14 Ks on ESPN.  Hadn't hit me that 13 of the 14 were swinging strikeouts.  Look even more impressive seeing all those swings and misses. 
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #70 on: August 15, 2010, 01:31:18 am »
Quote from: OregonStrosFan on August 14, 2010, 11:53:35 pm
Just saw the replay of Bud's 14 Ks on ESPN.  Hadn't hit me that 13 of the 14 were swinging strikeouts.  Look even more impressive seeing all those swings and misses. 

Norris really mixed in his changeup tonight, which, in my opinion, is a difference maker  for him because it makes his fastball, which is pretty good, look even better.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #71 on: August 15, 2010, 10:29:51 am »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on August 15, 2010, 01:31:18 am
Norris really mixed in his changeup tonight, which, in my opinion, is a difference maker  for him because it makes his fastball, which is pretty good, look even better.

From Buster's payperblog:

B) He had power stuff: Norris relied on a fastball-slider combo to mow down the Pirates, throwing only nine changeups, the fewest he's thrown in his last nine starts.

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« Reply #72 on: August 16, 2010, 03:49:03 pm »
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From Buster's payperblog:

B) He had power stuff: Norris relied on a fastball-slider combo to mow down the Pirates, throwing only nine changeups, the fewest he's thrown in his last nine starts.



I knew that he threw fewer changeups from watching the game. However, I think that the ones that he threw were much better than I've seen before and came at some key times in the game, particularly one in the second inning.  IIRC, he even got two strikeouts on changeup throws, one in the second inning (McCutcheon) and one other (can't remember who that was) later.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #73 on: August 16, 2010, 09:29:39 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on August 16, 2010, 03:49:03 pm
I knew that he threw fewer changeups from watching the game. However, I think that the ones that he threw were much better than I've seen before and came at some key times in the game, particularly one in the second inning.  IIRC, he even got two strikeouts on changeup throws, one in the second inning (McCutcheon) and one other (can't remember who that was) later.

No problem, my maign.  I'm with you.  You actually watched it, Buster (likely) and I didn't.  Nine well placed well thrown changeups are better than twenty crappy ones.  I was just adding context to your observations.   
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« Reply #74 on: August 17, 2010, 10:23:08 am »
Quote from: Bench on August 16, 2010, 09:29:39 pm
No problem, my maign.  I'm with you.  You actually watched it, Buster (likely) and I didn't.  Nine well placed well thrown changeups are better than twenty crappy ones.  I was just adding context to your observations.   

Actually, for a pitcher like Norris, I would expect no more than 10-15% of his pitches to be changeups. If those figures are correct (I didn't chart the pitches, so I'll take their word for it that he actually threw nine changeups), then he was slightly under 10% changeups (9/110). The key is that he has to feature it just enough to put that seed of doubt in the hitter's mind that he might throw it. The changeup is important to Norris because everything else he throws is hard, and his primary secondary pitch (slider) is okay but not great.
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Re: 'Stros vs. 'Roots, 8/14/10
« Reply #75 on: August 17, 2010, 12:33:33 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on August 17, 2010, 10:23:08 am
Actually, for a pitcher like Norris, I would expect no more than 10-15% of his pitches to be changeups. If those figures are correct (I didn't chart the pitches, so I'll take their word for it that he actually threw nine changeups), then he was slightly under 10% changeups (9/110). The key is that he has to feature it just enough to put that seed of doubt in the hitter's mind that he might throw it. The changeup is important to Norris because everything else he throws is hard, and his primary secondary pitch (slider) is okay but not great.

Wait a minute.  He was allowed to throw more than 100 pitches?  Heads are gonna roll.
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