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AP reporting George Steinbrenner dead at 80
« on: July 13, 2010, 08:50:59 am »
On the day of the ASG. Sad.

RIP Mr. Steinbrenner.

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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2010, 08:54:20 am »
RIP indeed.

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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2010, 08:55:55 am »
Very sad.  RIP.
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2010, 08:57:16 am »
I'd like to sell concessions for the line that will form to piss on his grave, but he probably leased the rights before he died.
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2010, 09:01:33 am »
I'd like to sell concessions for the line that will form to piss on his grave, but he probably leased the rights before he died.

YES Network got the TV rights.
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2010, 09:02:27 am »
He had a heart?
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2010, 09:06:16 am »
He had a heart?

No. He sold it to the junkman.
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2010, 09:23:36 am »
A much-loved businessman and philanthropist here in Tampa. Not by me necessarily but many here.
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2010, 09:31:13 am »
The revisionist history has already started, about how he was one of sports' greatest owners of all time, wouldn't tolerate losing, et al.

For a long time, he was the model of an owner who threw money at problems that he didn't understand.

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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2010, 09:39:22 am »
A much-loved businessman and philanthropist here in Tampa. Not by me necessarily but many here.

Say what you will about him, but he did a lot in the community, from building Little League fields to building hospitals.  He basically saved the Florida State Fair from bankruptcy.  He was very hands on too.  One of the more famous stories was him driving the truck for the Salvation Army during Hurricane Andrew in 1992.  He put his money where his mouth was, and he had no shortage of either. 
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2010, 09:44:10 am »
The revisionist history has already started, about how he was one of sports' greatest owners of all time, wouldn't tolerate losing, et al.

For a long time, he was the model of an owner who threw money at problems that he didn't understand.

It was only during the time that he was suspended - "for life" - that the Yankees began to rebuild the franchise into the current dynamo you see.
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2010, 09:45:27 am »
It was only during the time that he was suspended - "for life" - that the Yankees began to rebuild the franchise into the current dynamo you see.

Steinbrenner is what every football fan thinks a baseball owner should be.

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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2010, 10:00:37 am »

Right now Scott Boras is shedding a single tear; a single, solitary, gold-plated, diamond-encrusted tear.

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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2010, 10:26:22 am »
He put his money where his mouth was, and he had no shortage of either. 

Seems a good way of summing it up.

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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2010, 10:35:48 am »
Steinbrenner is what every football fan thinks a baseball owner should be.

I'm not saying you're wrong about the guy and I'm sure he does get way more credit than is deserved, but are you suggesting that they would've won at least 7 World Series without him throwing money around?    How many other owners of other teams won more titles-per-season than him (I don't know; it could be many)? 

I'm just wondering, if we all agree he was crazy and ignorant and threw money at problems he didn't understand, wasn't the end result worth it (if you're a filthy Yankee fan)?

Wouldn't you trade crazy-and-rich for 7 Astros rings?

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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2010, 10:57:02 am »
I'm not saying you're wrong about the guy and I'm sure he does get way more credit than is deserved, but are you suggesting that they would've won at least 7 World Series without him throwing money around?    How many other owners of other teams won more titles-per-season than him (I don't know; it could be many)? 

I'm just wondering, if we all agree he was crazy and ignorant and threw money at problems he didn't understand, wasn't the end result worth it (if you're a filthy Yankee fan)?

Wouldn't you trade crazy-and-rich for 7 Astros rings?

Yes, but I'd feel guilty (Catholic side of me).

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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2010, 11:00:49 am »
Yes, but I'd feel guilty (Catholic side of me).

My Catholic side would sell Alkie's soul for a World Series title, then buy an indulgence to get it back for him.
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2010, 11:01:45 am »
Here is a good article with some details about the Tampa Steinbrenner.
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2010, 11:03:29 am »
My Catholic side would sell Alkie's soul for a World Series title, then buy an indulgence to get it back for him.

We should try this.  What have we got to loose?

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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2010, 11:07:39 am »
We should try this.  What have we got to loose?

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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2010, 11:13:39 am »
Dang, he sure got one over on the IRS.  Dying in 2010 with 0% estate tax.  I think it goes back to 55% on 1/1/11 if no legislation goes in place.

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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2010, 11:15:48 am »
Dang, he sure got one over on the IRS.  Dying in 2010 with 0% estate tax.  I think it goes back to 55% on 1/1/11 if no legislation goes in place.

There is still the possibility that a retro change may be put into place to keep the estate tax for 2010.
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« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2010, 11:17:30 am »
There is still the possibility that a retro change may be put into place to keep the estate tax for 2010.

I need to talk to the estate tax litigator at my firm.  I have to imagine that would produce a huge fight unless there is some sort of clear cut legal precedent that has settled the issue.

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« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2010, 11:26:40 am »
I need to talk to the estate tax litigator at my firm.  I have to imagine that would produce a huge fight unless there is some sort of clear cut legal precedent that has settled the issue.

United States v. Carlton, 512 U.S. 26, 30 (1994)

Supreme Court has ruled that a retroactive increase may be instituted.
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« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2010, 11:30:01 am »
Good to know.  Thanks for the cite.

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My Catholic side would sell Alkie's soul for a World Series title, then buy an indulgence to get it back for him.

For those who might disagree, I am a believer that Alkie does indeed have a soul.  I've seen it, in action.  Please don't dismiss this as you would a Yeti sighting, it's true I tell you.  True!

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« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2010, 12:39:01 pm »
For those who might disagree, I am a believer that Alkie does indeed have a soul.  I've seen it, in action, for sale on eBay.  Please don't dismiss this as you would a Yeti sighting, it's true I tell you.  True!

Fixed.


There is still the possibility that a retro change may be put into place to keep the estate tax for 2010.

Either way, I bet he'll turn into some sweet crude.
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« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2010, 12:41:33 pm »
United States v. Carlton, 512 U.S. 26, 30 (1994)

Supreme Court has ruled that a retroactive increase may be instituted.

I'm not sure that's the same thing.  US v. Carlton was closing a loophole, not instituting a tax ex post facto.  Perhaps the lawyers out there can opine.
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« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2010, 12:59:22 pm »
I'm not sure that's the same thing.  US v. Carlton was closing a loophole, not instituting a tax ex post facto.  Perhaps the lawyers out there can opine.

You know it's interesting that you mention this, because I've always found tax law fascinating. One point that I think is particluarly zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
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« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2010, 01:03:39 pm »
You know it's interesting that you mention this, because I've always found tax law fascinating. One point that I think is particluarly zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...


You're clearly not having sex with a tax accountant on a regular basis.  I mean...neither am I because we got married.  But you get the point.
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« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2010, 01:05:15 pm »

You're clearly not having sex with a tax accountant on a regular basis.  I mean...neither am I because we got married. 

I see you've hit the phaseout.
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I see you've hit the phaseout.

Yep...a victim of the ol' "marriage penalty".
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« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2010, 01:31:20 pm »
It always feels like a bit of a failure when we don't hit at least five different topics in any given thread. This one is coming along nicely.
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« Reply #33 on: July 13, 2010, 01:33:17 pm »
It always feels like a bit of a failure when we don't hit at least five different topics in any given thread. This one is coming along nicely.

Yeah, if we had a picture of Steinbrenner melting into the La Brea tar pits or something, we'd be all set. If only somebody knew how to do that.
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« Reply #34 on: July 13, 2010, 01:38:29 pm »
If only somebody knew how to do that.

I'm thinking an xtranormal mashup of the estate tax regulations with Mel Gibson's latest rant.
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« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2010, 01:54:17 pm »
I'm thinking an xtranormal mashup of the estate tax regulations with Mel Gibson's latest rant.

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« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2010, 02:02:48 pm »
I'm not saying you're wrong about the guy and I'm sure he does get way more credit than is deserved, but are you suggesting that they would've won at least 7 World Series without him throwing money around?    How many other owners of other teams won more titles-per-season than him (I don't know; it could be many)? 

I'm just wondering, if we all agree he was crazy and ignorant and threw money at problems he didn't understand, wasn't the end result worth it (if you're a filthy Yankee fan)?

Wouldn't you trade crazy-and-rich for 7 Astros rings?

One fallacy that bugs the crap out of me is the assertion that the Yankees don't just buy players, they develop them too.  Yes, they do.  So does everyone else.  The difference is the Yankees can afford to overpay their home grown talent to keep them, and overpay to steal everyone else's.  Everyone else has to shred any concept of fiscal responsibility in order to keep the good players they have, making them unable to improve themselves.

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« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2010, 02:03:14 pm »
Yeah, if we had a picture of Steinbrenner melting into the La Brea tar pits or something, we'd be all set. If only somebody knew how to do that.

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« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2010, 02:05:33 pm »
[img alt=]http://www.spikesnstars.com/docs/wp-content/uploads/Steinbrenner-La-Brea.jpg[/img]

Let me just back up my SUV and fill 'er up.
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« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2010, 02:08:39 pm »
You know it's interesting that you mention this, because I've always found tax law fascinating. One point that I think is particluarly zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

I'm sorry.  I missed your point because someone was blowing a vuvuzela.
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« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2010, 02:52:11 pm »
this should bring Towlie running back.

Amazingly, Deepwater Horizon didn't do the trick.
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« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2010, 03:18:27 pm »
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« Reply #48 on: July 13, 2010, 03:23:12 pm »
I'll be on the lookout for Steinanol at the corner Texaco soon.

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« Reply #50 on: July 13, 2010, 03:36:42 pm »
Awwwwwww... they're adorably hateful!

The rose garden line slays me.  I have no idea what that means, but I can only imagine the intent behind it is incredibly malicious.
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« Reply #51 on: July 13, 2010, 03:39:38 pm »
The rose garden line slays me.  I have no idea what that means, but I can only imagine the intent behind it is incredibly malicious.

Pretty sure he was saying she'd make good oil fertilizer
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« Reply #52 on: July 13, 2010, 03:42:04 pm »
The rose garden line slays me.  I have no idea what that means, but I can only imagine the intent behind it is incredibly malicious.

It's a misquote. Gibson actually said “I'll put you in the fucking rose garden.”

But yeah, it'd be hilarious if the context were something like "FUCK YOU AND YOUR KOI POND! I'LL PUT IN A FUCKING ROSE GARDEN, YOU CUNT!"

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Re: AP reporting George Steinbrenner dead at 80
« Reply #53 on: July 13, 2010, 03:47:45 pm »
But yeah, it'd be hilarious if the context were something like "FUCK YOU AND YOUR KOI POND! I'LL PUT IN A FUCKING ROSE GARDEN, YOU CUNT!"

I really thought this was the context, and he was ready to prove what a man he was by tilling the soil appropriately for roses.
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Re: AP reporting George Steinbrenner dead at 80
« Reply #54 on: July 13, 2010, 03:50:57 pm »
Awwwwwww... they're adorably hateful!

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