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« on: July 11, 2010, 11:49:44 am »
So this good friend of mine has been a big Astros fan since we were young kids. Its almost something that has been the crux of our friendship. Anyway, I noticed lately he's been talking about the Rangers a lot (he moved to Dallas ~3-4 yrs ago), and this explosion of excitement about the Lee trade. So I asked him, what's up with the Rangers' talk lately? He responds with: I have to admit, I'm a bigger Rangers fan now than I am an Astros fan. And not only that, he called the Astros the "dis-astros". 

While clever, I thought it was an appropriate question to ask the forum. If you physically move to a new city with a new team, is it ok to become a fan of that new team's city? I mean, I live in Chicago, I'm certainly not waiving any Cubs flags and I have refused to buy any Cubs shirts, etc.
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2010, 11:55:24 am »
I think it's ok, especially for younger people.  But I don't think you should give up your old team:  root for the new one unless they're playing the old one.

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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2010, 12:05:09 pm »
Anyone who uses the phrase "dis-astros" is worthy of deep contempt under all circumstances.

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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2010, 12:16:06 pm »
I have the MLB extra innings package, so I'm able to watch all the Astros games here.  I don't really follow the Rockies all that closely, but I do go to a fair number of games at Coors Field because I love going to baseball games.  When they are playing someone other than the Astros, I will root for the home team.  I don't really consider myself a big Rockies fan though. 
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2010, 12:23:15 pm »
Let me clarify one thing - did you say the term "dis-astros" was clever?

Besides that, an adult who switches teams because they move is really just a fairweather fan in hiding.
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2010, 12:37:27 pm »
So this good friend of mine has been a big Astros fan since we were young kids. Its almost something that has been the crux of our friendship. Anyway, I noticed lately he's been talking about the Rangers a lot (he moved to Dallas ~3-4 yrs ago), and this explosion of excitement about the Lee trade. So I asked him, what's up with the Rangers' talk lately? He responds with: I have to admit, I'm a bigger Rangers fan now than I am an Astros fan. And not only that, he called the Astros the "dis-astros". 

While clever, I thought it was an appropriate question to ask the forum. If you physically move to a new city with a new team, is it ok to become a fan of that new team's city? I mean, I live in Chicago, I'm certainly not waiving any Cubs flags and I have refused to buy any Cubs shirts, etc.

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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2010, 12:58:29 pm »
Right, it's not nearly as clever as "stRangers" or "sCrUBS" but yeah.

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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2010, 12:59:58 pm »
Well then the Butt-Rangers must be clever too. NTTIAWWI

Seriously, call me when the Rangers quit jacking off and do something real.

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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2010, 01:31:51 pm »
So this good friend of mine has been a big Astros fan since we were young kids. Its almost something that has been the crux of our friendship. Anyway, I noticed lately he's been talking about the Rangers a lot (he moved to Dallas ~3-4 yrs ago), and this explosion of excitement about the Lee trade. So I asked him, what's up with the Rangers' talk lately? He responds with: I have to admit, I'm a bigger Rangers fan now than I am an Astros fan. And not only that, he called the Astros the "dis-astros". 

While clever, I thought it was an appropriate question to ask the forum. If you physically move to a new city with a new team, is it ok to become a fan of that new team's city? I mean, I live in Chicago, I'm certainly not waiving any Cubs flags and I have refused to buy any Cubs shirts, etc.

That is such a crock of shit.  I've moved around a decent amount as an adult (DC for 10 years, LA for 5, now in Chicago).  I love live sporting events and go frequently and yet I've only picked up one sports team in those moves - the Caps - because my hockey dance card slot was open at the time.  Sometimes I'll root for the local team at the game if it doesn't conflict with my loyalties but I'd never declare myself a "fan" of that team.  In the case of USC / Lakers / Cubs I think my dislike of those teams has actually grown from living in such close proximity to their douche-baggery.  I tried to tell myself I could be a blackhwaks fan since they're in the western conference and they only play the caps every few years... but while it was exciting when they won the cup, it wasn't like MY team won.   You're friend's a front runner.  Might as well go buy him a lebron heat jersey.

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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2010, 01:39:58 pm »
Living in southern California, I only root for the local teams if it makes a difference to the Astros... I'll root for the Dodgers if they're playing the Cubs or Cards. Other than that, fuck the Dodgers. To be fair, though, being in a city where the hometown team is doing well is always fun... I bet our friends in Dallas are having a good time right now. Fuck them, too. 

I wonder if your friend would be a Pirates fan if he moved to Pittsburgh. Smells like he's on a bandwagon.

I have a few Cardfan friends who've never been to St. Louis... I keep telling them St. Louis is a shithole and if they'd just visit there, they'd rethink their allegiance. I have little respect for their "fandom."

But they're not as annoying as Tennessee Titan fans living in Houston.
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2010, 01:41:16 pm »
At least he didn't resurrect the "Lastros" that makes me want to spit in their open mouths.

I was born in Austin and my dad was a baseball player - he had an offer from the Braves to play minor league ball (he was a catcher) but he decided to get married instead. I guess he figured he wasn't going to make it to the bigs or he was too crazy about my mom, I don't know. He played fast pitch church league when I was a kid until his back started to act up in the late 60s. It was always a thrill to go to those games and watch those guys gun that ball.

We usually went to a couple of games a year in Houston, since it was the closest pro team. The earliest game I remember was '65 or '66 at the Dome against the Phillies. I just remember the massive ballpark and watching the game, not any of the players or who won. Once we got all of the living generations to go, meaning it was me, my father, my grandfather and my great-grandfather, which was very cool. Big Pap-Paw was probably in his early 90s but still a large, robust man. He had a little ranch and worked it until he was 97, I think.

Despite the Astros games, I was an American League fan first and foremost. My earliest baseball memory is standing next to my father while he was sitting in a chair, watching a game on TV. He said, "You know who that guy is? The catcher? That's Yogi Berra." All my favorite players were AL guys - my dad's favorite player was Ted Williams, and mine was Al Kaline for no good reason. Loved the history of the game and paid more attention to the AL players. Lived and died with the '68 season for the Tigers and I have clear memories of watching the World Series on television at elementary school. I loved that feeling that nothing was more important than the Series - everywhere you went it was on transistor radios or televisions, and people stopped to pay attention to the game, it was a special event for the whole country. The fact that they were day games made it even more special.

I hated that I couldn't see any of my favorite players in Texas because there were no AL teams, so I never got to see Kaline or the Tigers in person. Of course, that all changed when the Rangers came but I only went to one game in Arlington during the 70s and saw Yaz and the Red Sox. I enjoyed the game, but it still meant more to me and seemed more fun to go to the Dome.  I got to see Bunning, Marichal, Mays, Bonds, Dick Allen, Carlton, Rose, Stargell and dozens of other Hall of Fame caliber players through the years. I went much more often to Houston during the 70s and solidified that the Astros were, indeed, my favorite team.

I moved to Houston in 1981 after college and went to a lot of games. I absolutely loved being able to go so often and that's what I miss the most about living there. Over time I've learned to appreciate National League ball much more and, other than going to see Nolan Ryan pitch often in Arlington I've paid much more attention to the Senior Circuit. My following of the Astros was really always there, it just developed into a much stronger bond as I got older. I've taken both of my daughters to several games and I'm sure they'll be good memories for them, but I doubt that they'll be as special as the ones I have of going with my father. That's the real connection for me.

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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2010, 01:41:19 pm »
But they're not as annoying as Tennessee Titan fans living in Houston.



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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2010, 08:44:09 am »
Admittedly, I'm a fan of the Rays, though it is a very distant second to my love for the Astros. Since there was no deep-seated hatred or regional ambivalence surrounding the Rays, it just happened. It helps that they are a good, young, likable team with a few ties to Houston and the Astros.

Your friend sounds like a band-wagoner. Follow JackAstro's orders.
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2010, 09:28:06 am »
So this good friend of mine has been a big Astros fan since we were young kids. Its almost something that has been the crux of our friendship. Anyway, I noticed lately he's been talking about the Rangers a lot (he moved to Dallas ~3-4 yrs ago), and this explosion of excitement about the Lee trade. So I asked him, what's up with the Rangers' talk lately? He responds with: I have to admit, I'm a bigger Rangers fan now than I am an Astros fan. And not only that, he called the Astros the "dis-astros". 

While clever, I thought it was an appropriate question to ask the forum. If you physically move to a new city with a new team, is it ok to become a fan of that new team's city? I mean, I live in Chicago, I'm certainly not waiving any Cubs flags and I have refused to buy any Cubs shirts, etc.

Your friend sounds like a fair-weather front-runner.  Wonder how he'll feel about the Rangers if Ryan leaves the scene and they return to their more familiar mismanaged path. 
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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2010, 10:12:38 am »
while living in zwolle after years of living in houston being a fan of the astros kept me going. i was going to say sane but i think there might be a few of you who say i beg to differ. now in austin of couse i stay a fan, if i could just get rid of those peseky spurs and only have the rockets it would be a thing of beauty
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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2010, 11:45:32 am »
When I moved to the LA area I still continued to follow the Astros on MLB.TV but I did start watching Angels games on the local Fox Sports channel and they grew on me as a team. Their World Series run was a lot of fun and that helped push me into liking them more but they are still my second team by adoption. Kind of a red-headed step-child. I think its a natural thing to happen when you move to a new area with a pro sports team. Luckily the Angels are here or I'd be forced to only watch the fucking Dodgers.

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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2010, 11:50:49 am »
Pardon me if I misunderstood but this friend didn't just pick up a new team, in the AL.  He is now a fan-boy as well as referring to his former "favorite" team as Dis-Astros.  That has the pungent stench of front-runner and fair-weather fanboy-ism, to me.
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« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2010, 12:55:11 pm »
Admittedly, I'm a fan of the Rays, though it is a very distant second to my love for the Astros. Since there was no deep-seated hatred or regional ambivalence surrounding the Rays, it just happened. It helps that they are a good, young, likable team with a few ties to Houston and the Astros.

Your friend sounds like a band-wagoner. Follow JackAstro's orders.

Yeah, I wear my Astros-Devil Rays allegience on my sleeve.  And, having followed them closely almost from the beginning, I'm am really happy and amazed at the Rays turnaround.

But let's get this straight -- any time the teams face each other in interleague play, there is no question where my sympathies lie.  Any transaction between the two teams, I want the Astros to get the better of -- Vinny Castillo, Aubrey Huff, Backe (for a very brief moment), boomerang-ing Blum, Bobby Abreu. . . okay, that last one, not so much.

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« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2010, 12:58:20 pm »
I have the MLB extra innings package, so I'm able to watch all the Astros games here.  I don't really follow the Rockies all that closely, but I do go to a fair number of games at Coors Field because I love going to baseball games.  When they are playing someone other than the Astros, I will root for the home team.  I don't really consider myself a big Rockies fan though. 

I also have the MLB Extra Innings package, and I watch virtually every inning of every Astros game. However, I also attend A's and Giants games out here because I love the game. I pull for both clubs when they're not playing the Astros. I even have shirts for both teams. However, no team will EVER supplant the Astros.

I've put up with all the silly derogatory nicknames for the Astros, disAstros, laugh-Stros, lastros, etc. Those aren't even real baseball fans in my opinion. They're frontrunner-band wagon types.
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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2010, 01:26:01 pm »

I've put up with all the silly derogatory nicknames for the Astros, disAstros, laugh-Stros, lastros, etc. Those aren't even real baseball fans in my opinion. They're frontrunner-band wagon types.

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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2010, 01:33:24 pm »
I also have the MLB Extra Innings package, 

I've found that EI has made me less of a team hater.  I grew up in Philly, so I've been watching a lot of Phillies games, but I'm also watching the Dodgers, Twins and Bluejays, for whatever reason.

And, off topic, but I've been meaning to ask this for awhile:  why does FSH HD not come in widescreen all the time?  Seems to be the only HD channel that has the 2 black bars on the side for a lot of games.  Haven't seen it on any other teams' broadcasts.

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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2010, 01:42:17 pm »
And, off topic, but I've been meaning to ask this for awhile:  why does FSH HD not come in widescreen all the time?  Seems to be the only HD channel that has the 2 black bars on the side for a lot of games.  Haven't seen it on any other teams' broadcasts.

I've tried to get an answer, but with no luck.   I even debated with Greg Lucas through 4 or 5 tweets one night when he was sure it was HD and eventually he confirmed with the crew that it wasn't, but didnt explain why. What's interesting is that the schedule makers seemed to know before the beginning of the season which games would not have HD.  My guess is that their HD equipment is scheduled for other programming, far in advance apparently.
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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2010, 01:59:23 pm »
I've tried to get an answer, but with no luck.   I even debated with Greg Lucas through 4 or 5 tweets one night when he was sure it was HD and eventually he confirmed with the crew that it wasn't, but didnt explain why. What's interesting is that the schedule makers seemed to know before the beginning of the season which games would not have HD.  My guess is that their HD equipment is scheduled for other programming, far in advance apparently.

All games from MMPUS are broadcast in HD on FSH.  Road games are very hit and miss on the same channel.

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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2010, 02:09:07 pm »
All games from MMPUS are broadcast in HD on FSH.  Road games are very hit and miss on the same channel.

I think that's pretty standard for baseball teams. The Angels have HD games in widescreen but sometimes, mainly on the non-Fox Sports channel, they have the HD with the two bars on the sides.  That version of "HD" is noticeably lower quality than the widescreen HD.

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« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2010, 03:17:50 pm »
Yeah, I wear my Astros-Devil Rays allegience on my sleeve.  And, having followed them closely almost from the beginning, I'm am really happy and amazed at the Rays turnaround.

But let's get this straight -- any time the teams face each other in interleague play, there is no question where my sympathies lie.  Any transaction between the two teams, I want the Astros to get the better of -- Vinny Castillo, Aubrey Huff, Backe (for a very brief moment), boomerang-ing Blum, Bobby Abreu. . . okay, that last one, not so much.

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« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2010, 03:41:32 pm »
All games from MMPUS are broadcast in HD on FSH.  Road games are very hit and miss on the same channel.

They probably all have non-traveling Home HD equipment, and share the Fox Sports traveling equipment amongst the different regional networks.  Of course, as soon as they have enough HD equipment, we'll start the whole process over for 3D.

Matt, I think you're just seeing SD on the HD channel when you see the two bars.
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« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2010, 04:11:27 pm »
They probably all have non-traveling Home HD equipment, and share the Fox Sports traveling equipment amongst the different regional networks.  Of course, as soon as they have enough HD equipment, we'll start the whole process over for 3D.

Matt, I think you're just seeing SD on the HD channel when you see the two bars.

I hope this fucking 3D fad dries up soon.  It's annoying to say the least.

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« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2010, 04:43:12 pm »
They probably all have non-traveling Home HD equipment, and share the Fox Sports traveling equipment amongst the different regional networks.  Of course, as soon as they have enough HD equipment, we'll start the whole process over for 3D.

Matt, I think you're just seeing SD on the HD channel when you see the two bars.

Its definitely higher resolution than the SD signal as I've checked it but its not as clear as the Fox HD version.

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« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2010, 04:56:28 pm »
Its definitely higher resolution than the SD signal as I've checked it but its not as clear as the Fox HD version.

Lurch is right – it's just SD. They upscale it and broadcast it in HD, but the original source is SD. So, it'll look better than SD in the same way that a regular DVD looks like the tits when played through my PS3.

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« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2010, 04:58:57 pm »
I hope this fucking 3D fad dries up soon.  It's annoying to say the least.

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« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2010, 08:57:50 pm »
I hope this fucking 3D fad dries up soon.  It's annoying to say the least.

TV manufacturers need something in order to force you to upgrade.  But who wants to wear giant glasses all the time?  I mean, I already wear giant glasses, you want me to double up, then they'd better be fucking Blublockers that I can rap about!
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« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2010, 09:01:30 pm »
TV manufacturers need something in order to force you to upgrade.  But who wants to wear giant glasses all the time?  I mean, I already wear giant glasses, you want me to double up, then they'd better be fucking Blublockers that I can rap about!

I'd like to see it in person before completely shooting it down as a fad, but I tend to agree that the glasses kill it.
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« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2010, 09:19:11 pm »
I saw John Dykstra talk about effects and Hollywood a few years ago and the one thing that really stayed with me was his declaration that with all the technical advances, the one thing that hadn't had a basic reinvention was display technology. Increased resolution wasn't the basic change he was speaking of, it was the change from a 2D platform to something immersive. I find 3D exciting because, even though what we see now are baby steps, this is a clear window to the future that will be very different in ways we can't imagine.
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« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2010, 09:35:32 pm »
I saw John Dykstra talk about effects and Hollywood a few years ago and the one thing that really stayed with me was his declaration that with all the technical advances, the one thing that hadn't had a basic reinvention was display technology. Increased resolution wasn't the basic change he was speaking of, it was the change from a 2D platform to something immersive. I find 3D exciting because, even though what we see now are baby steps, this is a clear window to the future that will be very different in ways we can't imagine.

Look up autostereoscopic displays.  That is the real future of 3D (no glasses), but not until they can get more even more pixels and the processing power draw them all.
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« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2010, 07:13:22 am »
I hope this fucking 3D fad dries up soon.  It's annoying to say the least.

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« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2010, 07:48:49 am »
Look up autostereoscopic displays.  That is the real future of 3D (no glasses), but not until they can get more even more pixels and the processing power draw them all.

I'll have to try those new screens, but the glasses technology makes me nauseous.  Had to take my glasses off for 'Avatar' and watch it in crappy 2-D. 

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« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2010, 09:15:15 am »
I'll have to try those new screens, but the glasses technology makes me nauseous.  Had to take my glasses off for 'Avatar' and watch it in crappy 2-D.  

Was I the only one who thought that - aside from all the ooo-aaahh technological wizardry - Avatar was pants?
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« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2010, 09:38:51 am »
Was I the only one who thought that - aside from all the ooo-aaahh technological wizardry - Avatar was pants?

I thought the movie was pretty crappy, but that's not what made me nauseous.

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« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2010, 09:40:05 am »
Was I the only one who thought that - aside from all the ooo-aaahh technological wizardry - Avatar was pants?

I forget, is "pants" good or bad?  I'd like to know what it is that I'm arguing when I say that you're wrong.
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« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2010, 09:42:33 am »
Was I the only one who thought that - aside from all the ooo-aaahh technological wizardry - Avatar was pants?

I have very low expectations for movies in general.  I also don't care if the science is wrong or if I disagree with the politics of the film (or those making it).  Avatar was predictable but an otherwise enjoyable popcorn movie.

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« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2010, 10:09:43 am »
I thought the movie was pretty crappy, but that's not what made me nauseous.

I wouldn't say it was bad necessarily, just a kiddie movie.  It was basically FernGully with CG instead of animation.
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« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2010, 10:14:24 am »
I wouldn't say it was bad necessarily, just a kiddie movie.  It was basically FernGully with CG instead of animation.

Personally, I considered it more like "Dances with Wolves" in outer-space...
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« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2010, 10:15:59 am »
I never saw it, but a buddy of mine called it "Jar-Jar Binks for 3+ hours."
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« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2010, 10:26:30 am »
I never saw it, but a buddy of mine called it "Jar-Jar Binks for 3+ hours."

Its not that terrible.  Even watching it in 3D without the glasses, its probably one of the most beautiful movies ever made.  The plot is like watching a clock tick though. 

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« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2010, 10:28:14 am »
I heard it was like Blazing Saddles meets Tron meets E.T. meets Terms of Endearment, but different and 3D-er.
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« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2010, 10:28:53 am »
I watched Tron last night.

Feng shui ain't got shit on Tron.
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« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2010, 11:04:41 am »
I watched Tron last night.

Feng shui ain't got shit on Tron.

the new one or the old one?
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« Reply #48 on: July 13, 2010, 11:06:53 am »
the new one or the old one?

The old one.  New one isn't out until winter, I believe.
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« Reply #49 on: July 13, 2010, 11:24:21 am »
The old one.  New one isn't out until winter, I believe.

The old one was a great fucking movie.  You might have to be of a certain age, but it was really something. 

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« Reply #50 on: July 13, 2010, 10:30:37 pm »
So this good friend of mine has been a big Astros fan since we were young kids. Its almost something that has been the crux of our friendship. Anyway, I noticed lately he's been talking about the Rangers a lot (he moved to Dallas ~3-4 yrs ago), and this explosion of excitement about the Lee trade. So I asked him, what's up with the Rangers' talk lately? He responds with: I have to admit, I'm a bigger Rangers fan now than I am an Astros fan. And not only that, he called the Astros the "dis-astros". 

While clever, I thought it was an appropriate question to ask the forum. If you physically move to a new city with a new team, is it ok to become a fan of that new team's city? I mean, I live in Chicago, I'm certainly not waiving any Cubs flags and I have refused to buy any Cubs shirts, etc.

It's OK, I guess, but I never did. I lived 10 years away from Houston in D.C. and could have cared less about the Orioles or the Bullets/Wizards. I liked going to Camden Yards from time to time but far preferred to drive to Philadelphia or Pittsburgh to see the Astros play the Phillies or Pirates. I went to see the Rockets when they played the Bullets/Wizards and the 76ers. I have no allegiance for any teams except the Astros or Rockets. And I could care less about football once the Oilers left town.

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« Reply #51 on: July 27, 2010, 08:35:10 am »
So this good friend of mine has been a big Astros fan since we were young kids...
...While clever, I thought it was an appropriate question to ask the forum. If you physically move to a new city with a new team, is it ok to become a fan of that new team's city? I mean, I live in Chicago, I'm certainly not waiving any Cubs flags and I have refused to buy any Cubs shirts, etc.
What tha??? I can understand if he moved there when he was 10 but as an adult?  When I moved from California in the early 90's back to the DC area, I would attend Orioles games just because it was MLB (although bastardized) baseball nearby.  When interleague play started, I thought the idea was contrived and disrespectful to the history of the game but was very happy to have a venue to watch the Astros in person nearby every few years.

When the Nats opened up shop in town, I immediately purchased partial season plans, not because the baseball was or is particularly compelling but so that I could be guaranteed good seats for the Astros series each year and then watch (and heartily boo) some of the other NL Central teams that come to town.  My interest in the Nats is 100% related to the Astros.

If I struggle hard to remember, I think I can maybe recall the names of only some of the Nats players since I've been going to their games: 

C.J. Nitkowski
Heavy D
Vinny Castilla
Pedro Astacio
Tim Redding
Ron Villone
Pudge
Some pitcher with a name something like Ensburg.
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