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Ryan bought the Rangers
« on: January 24, 2010, 11:47:14 am »
Done deal.

The Greenberg-Ryan investors' group name is Rangers Baseball Express.
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Re: Ryan bought the Rangers
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2010, 11:59:20 am »
Done deal.

The Greenberg-Ryan investors' group name is Rangers Baseball Express.

Not quite.  Open items include MLB and Hicks lenders' approval and financing.  Sounds like they've signed purchase agreements. 

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Re: Ryan bought the Rangers
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2010, 12:37:58 pm »
Bye Bye Express.
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2010, 01:36:19 pm »
Bye Bye Express.

yep.

i dropped my tickets this year.
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Re: Ryan bought the Rangers
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2010, 02:47:40 pm »
yep.

i dropped my tickets this year.

Hell, Jim - they're going to use 'declining attendance' as their reason for switching now.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2010, 02:50:40 pm »
Hell, Jim - they're going to use 'declining attendance' as their reason for switching now.

everyone around me bailed.
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Re: Ryan bought the Rangers
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2010, 03:25:12 pm »
I wonder what the attendance at the games will be like if the Express change their affiliation.  For me, it will be like visiting your old home but the new inhabitants completely remodeled the place.
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2010, 03:26:21 pm »
I'm renewing my share (a group of us subdivide a block of season tickets), but I suspect this will be the last year of doing that. If they become a Rangers farm club I'll probably go out there once or twice a season just to watch some baseball, but that will be it.
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2010, 04:05:59 pm »
I'm renewing my share (a group of us subdivide a block of season tickets), but I suspect this will be the last year of doing that. If they become a Rangers farm club I'll probably go out there once or twice a season just to watch some baseball, but that will be it.

i was going to drop them when the Rangers took over, but i decided to do it this year. my original group of 10 was down to 2, and i usually went out there by myself. many of the other season ticket holders around me left too. the biggest thing was that it just was not as much fun anymore. i do not think the Ryans try as hard, and cuts in the ushers numbers made the in-seat experience often mostly fending off a gazillion kids and their parents who were trying for autographs. i just decided it was too far and too expensive and not enough fun to be worth the money.
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Re: Ryan bought the Rangers
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2010, 06:46:23 am »
Bye Bye Express.

And Corpus? Doesn't his group also own the Hooks, or no?

Curious to see what happens with that, since the Roughriders are the current AA affiliate, and they're closer to Arlington than Corpus is.

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Re: Ryan bought the Rangers
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2010, 08:15:09 am »
Has there been any speculation as to where the AAA team to be renamed later would land?  Could Corpus conceivably become AAA, leaving the org to find a new AA affiliate instead?
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Re: Ryan bought the Rangers
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2010, 08:30:24 am »
So how does the Astros contract with the Express work?  Are they the affiliate for x amount of years?  
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2010, 09:30:59 am »
Has there been any speculation as to where the AAA team to be renamed later would land?  Could Corpus conceivably become AAA, leaving the org to find a new AA affiliate instead?

I vote Katy.
Seriously, though, could this end up jump starting that whole minor league stadium in Sugarland thing?  That would be cool.

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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2010, 09:32:15 am »
So how does the Astros contract with the Express work?  Are they the affiliate for x amount of years?  

IIRC the player development contract with the Express expires after the 2010 season.  That just so happens to be when the Rangers PDC expires with Oklahoma.
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2010, 09:33:50 am »
So how does the Astros contract with the Express work?  Are they the affiliate for x amount of years?  

two year term, i think.
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« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2010, 09:42:36 am »
I vote Katy.
Seriously, though, could this end up jump starting that whole minor league stadium in Sugarland thing?  That would be cool.

if we get to vote, then I am all for the creation of the Lake Conroe Pontoons

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« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2010, 10:01:38 am »
I would think the Big Club would want to try and increase its footprint in Texas/Louisiana/Ark/Oklahoma rather than draw from markets that already drive into games (Sugar Land, Katy, Conroe, etc.).

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« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2010, 10:40:57 am »
I wonder how attached San Diego is to San Antonio.  It is a AA, but I'd love for that town to have an astros farm team.
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« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2010, 10:43:13 am »
I wonder how attached San Diego is to San Antonio.  It is a AA, but I'd love for that town to have an astros farm team.

How long has San Diego been the big club for the Missions?  I remember when the Mariners took over shortly after I moved away.  It's odd now not to think of S.A. as a Dodgers club.
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« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2010, 10:54:48 am »
I don't know.  I just realized last year that it wasn't Seattle. 
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« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2010, 10:59:28 am »
I would think the Big Club would want to try and increase its footprint in Texas/Louisiana/Ark/Oklahoma rather than draw from markets that already drive into games (Sugar Land, Katy, Conroe, etc.).

I think Arkansas and Oklahoma are of little relevance to the Astros this days from the perspective of drawing fans.

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« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2010, 11:04:10 am »
I wonder how attached San Diego is to San Antonio Portland.  It is a AA, but I'd love for that town to have an astros farm team.

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« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2010, 11:05:11 am »
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'bout as much chance as SA, imo. i think they stay in Corpus.
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« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2010, 11:08:43 am »
I'm wondering if SA could become a AAA team.
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Re: Ryan bought the Rangers
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2010, 10:23:56 pm »
yep.

i dropped my tickets this year.

So did I Jim...so did I.

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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2010, 09:05:15 am »
So did I Jim...so did I.

so did Bodie Nash. the end of an era.
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Re: Ryan bought the Rangers
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2010, 10:30:00 am »
I wonder what the attendance at the games will be like if the Express change their affiliation.

Just a guess, but I think the average (i.e. sit in the berm) Express fan probably doesn't care.

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« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2010, 01:27:23 pm »
Just a guess, but I think the average (i.e. sit in the berm) Express fan probably doesn't care.

i tend to agree with that. only hard core Astros fans care.
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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2010, 01:52:00 pm »
By the way, the Statesman had an article about this topic in this morning's paper. It's the first time I remember seeing the topic addressed in the local media, but I easily may have missed it earlier.
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« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2010, 02:01:49 pm »
There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding on how the affiliation system works.  I'll take a stab at some basics:

1.  When a team changes affiliations, there is no "AAA team to be named" that steps into the gap, thus no need to speculate about where such team might be located.  Teams do relocate sometimes, and MLB affiliation plays some role in that, but it is far from the only factor.

2.  There are already exactly enough AAA teams to go around.  If the Rangers affiliate with the Express (as seems likely), then Oklahoma (the current Rangers affiliate) and Houston will be looking for a new arrangement.  Nobody will be looking for a new location.

3.  Affiliation arrangements are for an even number of years ... I do not think there is a max, but I do not recall anything more than 6.

4.  Every two years, both the MiLB team and the MLB parent have an opportunity to express a desire to look elsewhere.  This happens late summer sometime.  Once all the "lookers" are identified, there is "open season" on signing agreements.  This is where things like the "well kept secret" that Texas is interested in RR come into play.  Houston needs to be considering options now so that when the time comes they can move quickly to avoid getting what's left when everyone else agrees.
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« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2010, 02:33:53 pm »
^ That is a very helpful post to someone who doesn't have a misunderstanding of how the affiliation system works, just pretty much no knowledge about it whatsoever.
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