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« on: June 29, 2009, 03:51:52 pm »
Saw this on another site and I apologize up front for passing along unsourced data/gossip but the web chatter is pretty loud so...Good news is that no #5 Stro on the list and also of note is how many cubbies are on the list. 


1.Nomar Garciaparra
2.Manny Ramirez
3.Johnny Damon
4.Trot Nixon
5.David Ortiz
6.Shea Hillenbrand
7.Derek Lowe
8.Pedro Martinez
9.Brian Roberts
10.Jay Gibbons
11.Melvin Mora
12.Jerry Hairston
13.Jason Giambi
14.Alfonso Soriano
15.Raul Mondesi
16. Aaron Boone
17.Andy Pettitte
18.Jose Contreras
19.Roger Clemens
20.Carlos Delgado
21.Vernon Wells
22.Frank Catalanotto
23.Kenny Rogers
24.Magglio Ordonez
25.Sandy Alomar
26.Bartolo Colon
27.Brent Abernathy
28.Jose Lima
29.Milton Bradley
30.Casey Blake
31.Danys Baez
32.Craig Monroe
33.Dmitri Young
34.Alex Sanchez
35.Eric Chavez
36.Miguel Tejada
37.Eric Byrnes
38.Jose Guillen
39.Keith Foulke
40.Ricardo Rincon
41.Bret Boone
42.Mike Cameron
43.Randy Winn
44.Ryan Franklin
45.Freddy Garcia
46.Rafael Soriano
47.Scott Spiezio
48.Troy Glaus
49.Francisco Rodriguez
50.Ben Weber
51.Alex Rodriguez
52.Juan Gonzalez
53.Rafael Palmeiro
54.Carl Everett
55.Javy Lopez
56.Gary Sheffield
57.Mike Hampton
58.Ivan Rodriguez
59.Derrek Lee
60.Bobby Abreu
61.Terry Adams
62.Fernando Tatis
63.Livan Hernandez
64.Hector Almonte
65.Tony Armas
66.Dan Smith
67.Roberto Alomar
68.Cliff Floyd
69.Roger Cedeno
70.Jeromy Burnitz
71.Moises Alou
72.Sammy Sosa
73.Corey Patterson
74.Carlos Zambrano
75.Mark Prior
76.Kerry Wood
77.Matt Clement
78.Antonio Alfonseca
79.Juan=2 0Cruz
80.Aramis Ramirez
81.Craig Wilson
82.Kris Benson
83.Richie Sexson
84.Geoff Jenkins
85.Valerio de los Santos
86.Benito Santiago
87.Rich Aurilia
88.Barry Bonds
89.Andres Galarraga
90.Jason Schmidt
91.Felix Rodriguez
92.Jason Christiansen
93.Matt Herges
94.Paul Lo Duca
95.Shawn Green
96.Jeromy Burnitz
97.Adrian Beltre
98.Eric Gagne
99.Guillermo Mota
100.Luis Gonzalez
101.Todd Helton
102.Ryan Klesko
103.Gary Matthews Jr
104.Oliver Perez

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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2009, 03:53:55 pm »
wow. just wow if that is accurate.
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2009, 03:54:49 pm »
Jeromy Burnitz is on there twice, and there are quite a few Astros on that list too. 
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2009, 03:55:24 pm »
Jeromy Burnitz is on there twice, and there are quite a few Astros on that list too. 

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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2009, 03:59:20 pm »
what year/s is this? 
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2009, 04:00:01 pm »
Holy shit! Barry Bonds?! NO WAY!

What? it's not 2001 anymore?

Oh. I was looking at the wrong calendar.
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2009, 04:01:42 pm »
Jeromy Burnitz is on there twice, and there are quite a few Astros on that list too. 

The question is : If the list is real, how many of them were juicing while playing for the Astros.

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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2009, 04:03:18 pm »
Jeromy Burnitz is on there twice, and there are quite a few Astros on that list too. 

There's quite a few of every team.  I hope that this list is accurate, because I don't see any "Say it ain't so" names there for Astros' fans.
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2009, 04:03:45 pm »
what year/s is this? 


I assume this is the infamous 2003 testing.
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2009, 04:04:31 pm »
Saw this on another site and I apologize up front for passing along unsourced data/gossip but the web chatter is pretty loud so...Good news is that no #5 Stro on the list and also of note is how many cubbies are on the list. 


1.Nomar Garciaparra
2.Manny Ramirez
3.Johnny Damon
4.Trot Nixon
5.David Ortiz
6.Shea Hillenbrand
7.Derek Lowe
8.Pedro Martinez
9.Brian Roberts
10.Jay Gibbons
11.Melvin Mora
12.Jerry Hairston
13.Jason Giambi
14.Alfonso Soriano
15.Raul Mondesi
16. Aaron Boone
17.Andy Pettitte
18.Jose Contreras
19.Roger Clemens
20.Carlos Delgado
21.Vernon Wells
22.Frank Catalanotto
23.Kenny Rogers
24.Magglio Ordonez
25.Sandy Alomar
26.Bartolo Colon
27.Brent Abernathy
28.Jose Lima
29.Milton Bradley
30.Casey Blake
31.Danys Baez
32.Craig Monroe
33.Dmitri Young
34.Alex Sanchez
35.Eric Chavez
36.Miguel Tejada
37.Eric Byrnes
38.Jose Guillen
39.Keith Foulke
40.Ricardo Rincon
41.Bret Boone
42.Mike Cameron
43.Randy Winn
44.Ryan Franklin
45.Freddy Garcia
46.Rafael Soriano
47.Scott Spiezio
48.Troy Glaus
49.Francisco Rodriguez
50.Ben Weber
51.Alex Rodriguez
52.Juan Gonzalez
53.Rafael Palmeiro
54.Carl Everett
55.Javy Lopez
56.Gary Sheffield
57.Mike Hampton
58.Ivan Rodriguez

59.Derrek Lee
60.Bobby Abreu
61.Terry Adams
62.Fernando Tatis
63.Livan Hernandez
64.Hector Almonte
65.Tony Armas
66.Dan Smith
67.Roberto Alomar
68.Cliff Floyd
69.Roger Cedeno
70.Jeromy Burnitz
71.Moises Alou
72.Sammy Sosa
73.Corey Patterson
74.Carlos Zambrano
75.Mark Prior
76.Kerry Wood
77.Matt Clement
78.Antonio Alfonseca
79.Juan=2 0Cruz
80.Aramis Ramirez
81.Craig Wilson
82.Kris Benson
83.Richie Sexson
84.Geoff Jenkins
85.Valerio de los Santos
86.Benito Santiago
87.Rich Aurilia
88.Barry Bonds
89.Andres Galarraga
90.Jason Schmidt
91.Felix Rodriguez
92.Jason Christiansen
93.Matt Herges
94.Paul Lo Duca
95.Shawn Green
96.Jeromy Burnitz
97.Adrian Beltre
98.Eric Gagne
99.Guillermo Mota
100.Luis Gonzalez
101.Todd Helton
102.Ryan Klesko
103.Gary Matthews Jr
104.Oliver Perez

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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2009, 04:05:30 pm »
The question is : If the list is real, how many of them were juicing while playing for the Astros.

If it was from the 2003 season, none of them played for the Astros that year.  That doesn't mean, however, that none of them juiced while they *did* play in Houston. 
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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2009, 04:05:39 pm »
what year/s is this? 

2003; the test that leaked ARod's name earlier this year

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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2009, 04:05:47 pm »
I miss anybody?

100. Luis Gonzalez (assuming that is Gonzo)
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2009, 04:07:29 pm »
I miss anybody?

Roger Cedeno and Luis Gonzalez come to mind.  Don't know if you should consider Aaron Boone or not.
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2009, 04:08:11 pm »
I miss anybody?

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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2009, 04:12:43 pm »
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« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2009, 04:16:20 pm »
Sad to see Moises on that list should it be true.  He maybe was one of my favorites ever to watch swing a bat.

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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2009, 04:26:55 pm »
This isn't the same fake list that came out last time, is it?
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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2009, 04:27:14 pm »
Pudge is a great ball player and one of my all time favorites. It is very disappointing to see him on the list.
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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2009, 04:30:04 pm »
This isn't the same fake list that came out last time, is it?
Don't worry, the list is for which players kept steriods, which are novelty pets similar to sea monkeys, not steroids.
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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2009, 04:31:54 pm »
Pudge is a great ball player and one of my all time favorites. It is very disappointing to see him on the list.

Sad, but not a surprise, surely.  He's tiny now, and suffered the same, curious, power outage as many other players on the list.
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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2009, 04:35:09 pm »
I'm astounded that the list isn't twice as long.
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« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2009, 04:36:49 pm »
There's quite a few of every team.  I hope that this list is accurate, because I don't see any "Say it ain't so" names there for Astros' fans.

Exactly.  From a completely selfish point of view, that's totally a list I can live with.
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« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2009, 04:42:09 pm »
I'm astounded that the list isn't twice as long.

The 104 is the number that MLB/MLBPA confirmed as the total number of positives from the '03 testing.

Burnitz's double dipping casts a bit of doubt on the list for me.
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« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2009, 04:47:44 pm »
The 104 is the number that MLB/MLBPA confirmed as the total number of positives from the '03 testing.

Burnitz's double dipping casts a bit of doubt on the list for me.

The list is arranged by team.  Burnitz was traded from the Mets to the Dodgers in the 2003 season.  I am guessing that is why he is on the list twice.  Once grouped with the Mets, once with the Dodgers.
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« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2009, 04:49:30 pm »
I'm seriously skeptical of this list.  It reads like a list of everyone whose production has dropped since 2003.
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« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2009, 04:50:49 pm »
I'm seriously skeptical of this list.  It reads like a list of everyone whose production has dropped since 2003.

It seems a bit too star-heavy for me.
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« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2009, 04:51:36 pm »
By this site, no 2003 Astros.

Assuming, of course, that I'm not blind/retarded. (I could be both)
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« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2009, 04:52:45 pm »
By this site, no 2003 Astros.

Assuming, of course, that I'm not blind/retarded. (I could be both)

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« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2009, 04:53:09 pm »
is that any thing like sea men? wonder when a updated list will be leaked
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« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2009, 04:53:44 pm »
The rules of distinction were thrown out with the baseball cap.  It does not lend itself to protocol.  It is found today on youth in homes, classrooms, even in fine restaurants.  Regardless of its other consequences, this is a breach against civility.  A civilized man should avoid this mania.

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« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2009, 04:54:31 pm »
The list is arranged by team.  Burnitz was traded from the Mets to the Dodgers in the 2003 season.  I am guessing that is why he is on the list twice.  Once grouped with the Mets, once with the Dodgers.

Wouldn't that suggest that somebody just looked at the rosters and picked players to stick on the list?
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« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2009, 04:54:43 pm »
is that any thing like sea men? wonder when a updated list will be leaked


An updated list of leaking sea men?
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« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2009, 04:54:47 pm »
It seems a bit too star-heavy for me.

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« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2009, 05:02:23 pm »
Wouldn't that suggest that somebody just looked at the rosters and picked players to stick on the list?

Yea, I am thinking this thing is bogus so back to my original statement of apologizing for putting it up.  I was just excited to not see Bags on the list so I didn't scrutinize it much.  Nothing to see here, move along...

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« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2009, 06:12:07 pm »
If the list is accurate (which I'd be surprised), then the MLB overtly lied back in '03 when they assured folks that Clemens had not tested positive for a banned substance.

Oh yeah, and Burnitz is a complete and total asshole.
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« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2009, 07:04:11 pm »
Oh yeah, and Burnitz is a complete and total asshole.

I don't need no stinking list to tell me that.  What a dick.
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« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2009, 10:48:10 pm »
This isn't the same fake list that came out last time, is it?

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« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2009, 11:49:28 pm »
Yes
I don't think so...certain former Houston first baseman was on that first fake list.

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« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2009, 11:51:05 pm »
MLB trade rumors is calling it crap in any event.  Guess they've been bombarded with it...
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« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2009, 11:59:49 pm »
MLB trade rumors is calling it crap in any event.  Guess they've been bombarded with it...

Yes, sorry.  I don't think it's valid, but I think it's a least a little different than the other list.

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« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2009, 04:59:21 am »
Can't be true because it has Rajah on the list and he swears he never did it.
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« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2009, 08:55:39 am »
I don't think so...certain former Houston first baseman was on that first fake list.

Yeah and no Albert Pujols either (at the time, it was the biggest news).  I think they just recycled the same list and altered it slightly.  Either way, it's the same prank pulled on the mlb landscape.  Proving yet again that you can "fool the people most of the time", even if you just repeat the same pranks.  People need their bread and circuses.

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« Reply #43 on: June 30, 2009, 09:51:25 am »
Yes, sorry.  I don't think it's valid, but I think it's a least a little different than the other list.

Yeah, right. Forgot about the Bagwell inclusion on the previous list. The have a lot of names in common, though, so I'm going to assume everyone whose name is on both lists is guilty as hell. I believe that qualifies as confirmation from multiple sources.
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« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2009, 08:28:24 pm »
A couple of Houstonians test positive for performance enhancers...
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