Author Topic: Dallas Keuchel (Read 6232 times)

Noe · « **on:** June 17, 2009, 10:58:49 pm »

Saw him pitch tonight against Virginia and the 7th rounder looks like a steal! Really nice looking left hander who is tough as nails.

Russe · « **Reply #1 on:** June 18, 2009, 03:18:48 am »

I was at a bar and by chance looked up at the flatscreen while he was pitching. A little wild but he worked his way out of a jam the one inning and struck out two the next. The one thing I really noticed is that his delivery looked very clean.

Reuben · « **Reply #2 on:** June 18, 2009, 11:01:31 am »

Thanks for the eye-witness reports, I read about the game and have wondered what sort of pitcher he is. Pretty nice line pitching innings 9-12 in relief: 4.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 3 BB, 5 SO... now 2-0 in the CWS. Let's hope they can sign him.

moriartp · « **Reply #3 on:** June 18, 2009, 11:27:23 am »

During his start against CSF, everyone kept talking about how much life his fastball had. Bobby Heck said in yesterday's chat that Keuchel has the best changeup of anyone the Astros drafted. Then he pitches these innings in relief and BA comments on the "vicious slider" he showed. Sounds like a pretty good pitcher to me.

Noe · « **Reply #4 on:** June 18, 2009, 12:22:28 pm »

Quote from: muircheartaigh on June 18, 2009, 11:27:23 am

During his start against CSF, everyone kept talking about how much life his fastball had. Bobby Heck said in yesterday's chat that Keuchel has the best changeup of anyone the Astros drafted. Then he pitches these innings in relief and BA comments on the "vicious slider" he showed. Sounds like a pretty good pitcher to me.

If it's a slider, it is really a late breaking slider. I think it's a fastball with lots of late movement because it is hard to square from what I could see. Also, he has a mound presence that is very keen. I liked watching him pitch last night.

juliogotay · « **Reply #5 on:** June 18, 2009, 12:23:25 pm »

Quote from: muircheartaigh on June 18, 2009, 11:27:23 am

During his start against CSF, everyone kept talking about how much life his fastball had. Bobby Heck said in yesterday's chat that Keuchel has the best changeup of anyone the Astros drafted. Then he pitches these innings in relief and BA comments on the "vicious slider" he showed. Sounds like a pretty good pitcher to me.

Remember Brett Eibner the Razorback with the tying HR mentioned in the BA article? Drafted high two years ago by Astros but obviously did not sign.

moriartp · « **Reply #6 on:** June 18, 2009, 12:29:54 pm »

Quote from: juliogotay on June 18, 2009, 12:23:25 pm

Remember Brett Eibner the Razorback with the tying HR mentioned in the BA article? Drafted high two years ago by Astros but obviously did not sign.

Indeed, apparently for the reason that he wasn't ready to give up on hitting. I didn't see him vs. Virginia, but he looked pretty dreadful against CSF.

JimR · « **Reply #7 on:** June 18, 2009, 12:32:28 pm »

Quote from: muircheartaigh on June 18, 2009, 12:29:54 pm

Indeed, apparently for the reason that he wasn't ready to give up on hitting. I didn't see him vs. Virginia, but he looked pretty dreadful against CSF.

hitting a cool .225 last night.

juliogotay · « **Reply #8 on:** June 18, 2009, 03:00:59 pm »

Quote from: muircheartaigh on June 18, 2009, 12:29:54 pm

Indeed, apparently for the reason that he wasn't ready to give up on hitting. I didn't see him vs. Virginia, but he looked pretty dreadful against CSF.

ESPN reported during Saturday's UA game that the Astros wanted Eibner to pitch. I don't recall that ever being reported at the time. I thought it was all about $$.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #9 on:** June 18, 2009, 04:12:23 pm »

Quote from: juliogotay on June 18, 2009, 03:00:59 pm

ESPN reported during Saturday's UA game that the Astros wanted Eibner to pitch. I don't recall that ever being reported at the time. I thought it was all about $$.

He was drafted as a pitcher. All reports were that he asked for far more money than the Astros thought wise. If the Astros had offered him what he wanted he's be in the system.

Jared Novak · « **Reply #10 on:** June 18, 2009, 04:16:02 pm »

Quote from: Jacksonian on June 18, 2009, 04:12:23 pm

He was drafted as a pitcher. All reports were that he asked for far more money than the Astros thought wise. If the Astros had offered him what he wanted he's be in the system.

Wasn't it the same thing with Dietrich? Dietrich broke his non-throwing arm and the Astros pulled back on their offer and it gave Dietrich and his advisers time to realize we had no 1st and 2nd round picks, and had more money to pay the rest of the picks.

Russe · « **Reply #11 on:** June 26, 2009, 10:53:47 am »

http://www.examiner.com/x-2910-Houston-Astros-Examiner~y2009m6d25-QA-with-Astros-seventhround-pick-Dallas-Keuchel

An interview with Dallas Keuchel. Keuchel says he's 50-50 on signing, the Astros told him they're gonna offer soon, and that the offer is over slot.

S.P. Rodriguez · « **Reply #12 on:** June 26, 2009, 01:26:26 pm »

Quote from: Russe on June 26, 2009, 10:53:47 am

http://www.examiner.com/x-2910-Houston-Astros-Examiner~y2009m6d25-QA-with-Astros-seventhround-pick-Dallas-Keuchel

An interview with Dallas Keuchel. Keuchel says he's 50-50 on signing, the Astros told him they're gonna offer soon, and that the offer is over slot.

That's very interesting, for a couple reasons. One, it shows McLane is bucking the "slot" system that he had previously stuck to, for whatever reason that may be (that's where they valued the player or he didn't want to cross But - speculation, obviously). Also, this money comes out of the same pool used to pay for the major league team. Many writers are speculating on whether Houston will be buyers, the financial state of the Astros organization, etc... So what happens on the big league club? Are they buyers? Sellers? Standing pat? Regardless, I'm still watching the games. But it sure is nice to see some prospects in the system.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #13 on:** June 26, 2009, 01:32:26 pm »

Quote from: Russe on June 26, 2009, 10:53:47 am

http://www.examiner.com/x-2910-Houston-Astros-Examiner~y2009m6d25-QA-with-Astros-seventhround-pick-Dallas-Keuchel

An interview with Dallas Keuchel. Keuchel says he's 50-50 on signing, the Astros told him they're gonna offer soon, and that the offer is over slot.

Since you saved my ass on the whole BA article thingie, I'm not going to give you any crap about there being a front page here and all...

FWIW, Razorback coach Van Horn thinks Keuchel is going to sign. LINK

Van Horn believes it's only a matter of time before seventh-round draft choice Keuchel signs with the Houston Astros and eighth-round draft choice Richards signs with the Florida Marlins.

"Dallas is a no-doubter," Van Horn said. "And Richards is the same way."

Jacksonian · « **Reply #14 on:** June 26, 2009, 01:43:47 pm »

Quote from: S.P. Rodriguez on June 26, 2009, 01:26:26 pm

That's very interesting, for a couple reasons. One, it shows McLane is bucking the "slot" system that he had previously stuck to, for whatever reason that may be (that's where they valued the player or he didn't want to cross But - speculation, obviously). Also, this money comes out of the same pool used to pay for the major league team. Many writers are speculating on whether Houston will be buyers, the financial state of the Astros organization, etc... So what happens on the big league club? Are they buyers? Sellers? Standing pat? Regardless, I'm still watching the games. But it sure is nice to see some prospects in the system.

McLane has only stuck to the slot when it made sense to do so. That he has been unwilling in the past is BS. He's gone over slot when convinced it was a good idea to do so.

Noe · « **Reply #15 on:** June 26, 2009, 03:08:55 pm »

Quote from: Jacksonian on June 26, 2009, 01:43:47 pm

McLane has only stuck to the slot when it made sense to do so. That he has been unwilling in the past is BS. He's gone over slot when convinced it was a good idea to do so.

See: Patton, Troy

S.P. Rodriguez · « **Reply #16 on:** June 26, 2009, 03:22:16 pm »

Fair enough. I didn't mean to endorse the perception so much as state it's out there. I'm mostly curious what happens moving forward. In addition to the perception that he won't go over slot, is the opinion that he's cheap instead of shrewd.

My questions are more along the lines of the Buyer/Seller discussion, as this team is teasing just enough to maybe justify adding a piece or two. And really, I'm just wondering aloud. I don't know that anyone, even McLane possibly, knows what the Astros will do before the trade deadline.

BUWebguy · « **Reply #17 on:** June 27, 2009, 12:09:25 am »

Quote from: Jacksonian on June 26, 2009, 01:43:47 pm

McLane has only stuck to the slot when it made sense to do so. That he has been unwilling in the past is BS. He's gone over slot when convinced it was a good idea to do so.

I generally believe that, but what about Stubbs?

JimR · « **Reply #18 on:** June 27, 2009, 07:34:36 am »

Quote from: BUWebguy on June 27, 2009, 12:09:25 am

I generally believe that, but what about Stubbs?

iirc, Stubbs demanded first round money.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #19 on:** June 27, 2009, 07:59:05 am »

Quote from: BUWebguy on June 27, 2009, 12:09:25 am

I generally believe that, but what about Stubbs?

What about him?

The Astros offer the player what they think he is worth, below, at, or above slot. He wanted more than the Astros believed he was worth.

Jared Novak · « **Reply #20 on:** June 27, 2009, 12:06:49 pm »

Here's an article that shed some light on the Drew Stubbs story. Keep in mind who its written by.

http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2006/02/vince_young_vs.html

BUWebguy · « **Reply #21 on:** June 27, 2009, 12:12:27 pm »

Quote from: Jared Novak on June 27, 2009, 12:06:49 pm

Here's an article that shed some light on the Drew Stubbs story. Keep in mind who its written by.

http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2006/02/vince_young_vs.html

Yeah, that was the story I was referring to. I thought I had heard it from better sources than Justice, even people here. Perhaps I'm mixing my sources.

JimR · « **Reply #22 on:** June 27, 2009, 05:16:56 pm »

Stubbs thought he was first round talent and demanded that money.

farmstros · « **Reply #23 on:** July 08, 2009, 03:17:29 pm »

keuchel is slated to start for Tri-City tonight

billemite · « **Reply #24 on:** July 08, 2009, 10:15:30 pm »

Looks like he did a nice job. 3IP/0R/1H/0BB/2K

Author Topic: Dallas Keuchel (Read 6232 times)

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